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Middle School Pizza Party -- WWYD (1 Viewer)

Pizza party -- WWYD

  • No tip, don't say anything to parent organization

    Votes: 23 37.7%
  • No tip, say something to parent organization

    Votes: 6 9.8%
  • Tip, don't say anything to parent organization

    Votes: 7 11.5%
  • Tip, say something to parent organization

    Votes: 22 36.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 4.9%

  • Total voters
    61
I can afford it, why not?
not everyone can afford a tip? I mean, I think most of us are pretty well off and could afford a tip and anyone that couldn't isn't doing a large order anyways but there who couldn't afford to tip
This was a parent association that threw down 700 bucks for pizzas. They most certainly could afford another 50 bucks or so
very likely yes, and given that one of the parents tipped $100 might mean this is a wealthyish area but the org already had a chance to tip and didn't. I didn't know that all schools that could scrap together enough money for a pizza party also means they are wealthy enough to pay a tip.
 
So what if I and 81 of my closest friends walk into the pizza joint and they seat us. We each order a pizza and the hard working pizza makers shift into high gear. The servers bring us pizzas and drinks. We tip 25%. How much of that tip will the hard working pizza makers get? In most places I know of, the answer is $0.
 
So what if I and 81 of my closest friends walk into the pizza joint and they seat us. We each order a pizza and the hard working pizza makers shift into high gear. The servers bring us pizzas and drinks. We tip 25%. How much of that tip will the hard working pizza makers get? In most places I know of, the answer is $0.

Who gets the tip then? Doesn't the Fair Standards Labor Act prohibit owners and managers from pocketing tips?
 
This thread makes me feel better about every tip I’ve ever left.

I was in the sticks in NC many moons ago. We went bowling in the middle of the day with 3 little kids. We were the only people in the place. There was one employee working. Might have been 17. He had a great attitude and was awesome. He didn’t really do anything other than his job. I gave him a $20. He teared up. I’ll keep tipping thanks.
 
So what if I and 81 of my closest friends walk into the pizza joint and they seat us. We each order a pizza and the hard working pizza makers shift into high gear. The servers bring us pizzas and drinks. We tip 25%. How much of that tip will the hard working pizza makers get? In most places I know of, the answer is $0.
If you and 81 of your friends walk into a pizza joint and each order a pizza many of you aren't eating for a couple hours
 
So what if I and 81 of my closest friends walk into the pizza joint and they seat us. We each order a pizza and the hard working pizza makers shift into high gear. The servers bring us pizzas and drinks. We tip 25%. How much of that tip will the hard working pizza makers get? In most places I know of, the answer is $0.
You think it's normal/possible to walk in with 81 people and get service right away? You don't recognize that as "special" that would require a reservation/planning/special accommodations to make it happen?

That's the whole point.
 
So what if I and 81 of my closest friends walk into the pizza joint and they seat us. We each order a pizza and the hard working pizza makers shift into high gear. The servers bring us pizzas and drinks. We tip 25%. How much of that tip will the hard working pizza makers get? In most places I know of, the answer is $0.

Who gets the tip then? Doesn't the Fair Standards Labor Act prohibit owners and managers from pocketing tips?
Servers get tips. Cooks do not.
 
So what if I and 81 of my closest friends walk into the pizza joint and they seat us. We each order a pizza and the hard working pizza makers shift into high gear. The servers bring us pizzas and drinks. We tip 25%. How much of that tip will the hard working pizza makers get? In most places I know of, the answer is $0.

Who gets the tip then? Doesn't the Fair Standards Labor Act prohibit owners and managers from pocketing tips?
Yes it does. Some violate it. But in most cases, 90%ish, the employees do in fact get it. This is yet another reason to tip in cash.
 
So what if I and 81 of my closest friends walk into the pizza joint and they seat us. We each order a pizza and the hard working pizza makers shift into high gear. The servers bring us pizzas and drinks. We tip 25%. How much of that tip will the hard working pizza makers get? In most places I know of, the answer is $0.
You think it's normal/possible to walk in with 81 people and get service right away? You don't recognize that as "special" that would require a reservation/planning/special accommodations to make it happen?

That's the whole point.
Sure. We e reserved the banquet room and ordered ahead of time. How much do the pizza makers get tipped?
 
So what if I and 81 of my closest friends walk into the pizza joint and they seat us. We each order a pizza and the hard working pizza makers shift into high gear. The servers bring us pizzas and drinks. We tip 25%. How much of that tip will the hard working pizza makers get? In most places I know of, the answer is $0.

Who gets the tip then? Doesn't the Fair Standards Labor Act prohibit owners and managers from pocketing tips?
Servers get tips. Cooks do not.

I was under the impression that servers have to 'tip out' the cooks. Is that not accurate? I know they 'tip out' bartenders.
 
So what if I and 81 of my closest friends walk into the pizza joint and they seat us. We each order a pizza and the hard working pizza makers shift into high gear. The servers bring us pizzas and drinks. We tip 25%. How much of that tip will the hard working pizza makers get? In most places I know of, the answer is $0.
You think it's normal/possible to walk in with 81 people and get service right away? You don't recognize that as "special" that would require a reservation/planning/special accommodations to make it happen?

That's the whole point.
Sure. We e reserved the banquet room and ordered ahead of time. How much do the pizza makers get tipped?

Have to imagine the servers ARE the ones making the pizzas in this scenario. I took a group of kids to a national chain pizza joint at 5pm. Wasn't too busy, mostly delivery orders or pickup orders but we dined in. The guy that rang me up was back there making the pizzas and pouring the beers. It wasn't fully staffed but it didn't need to be. I just figured most mid-sized pizza places or mom and pop places with dining room tables are staffed by people doing multiple jobs. Could be wrong.
 
So what if I and 81 of my closest friends walk into the pizza joint and they seat us. We each order a pizza and the hard working pizza makers shift into high gear. The servers bring us pizzas and drinks. We tip 25%. How much of that tip will the hard working pizza makers get? In most places I know of, the answer is $0.

Who gets the tip then? Doesn't the Fair Standards Labor Act prohibit owners and managers from pocketing tips?
Servers get tips. Cooks do not.

I was under the impression that servers have to 'tip out' the cooks. Is that not accurate? I know they 'tip out' bartenders.
I'm not in the business, but I believe tipping out the kitchen is not the standard. Especially not at a pizza joint
 
I’m reminded of a story I told in here last year. Flew back east with my elderly parents and extended family for a family reunion. I’m running point, driving, checking everyone in, etc. we’ve been traveling ALL day. It’s late and we’re in a tiny town in RI. The wife and I venture out to try and find something to eat. It’s past midnight.

There’s one pizza joint open. Order 4 pizzas. Throw the guy a $10. The cook by the way :rolleyes: he throws the pizzas in the oven asks if we want anything else. I tell him my travel sob story and say a beer if you had one. They didn’t sell alcohol. He promptly goes and gets me 2 beers from the fridge in the back. Gives me 2 more when we leave. I threw him another $20. He was also the owner. GREAT experience. Never happens if I don’t tip on the initial order
 
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So what if I and 81 of my closest friends walk into the pizza joint and they seat us. We each order a pizza and the hard working pizza makers shift into high gear. The servers bring us pizzas and drinks. We tip 25%. How much of that tip will the hard working pizza makers get? In most places I know of, the answer is $0.

Who gets the tip then? Doesn't the Fair Standards Labor Act prohibit owners and managers from pocketing tips?
Servers get tips. Cooks do not.

I was under the impression that servers have to 'tip out' the cooks. Is that not accurate? I know they 'tip out' bartenders.
In most instances, they do not. Pizza joint, probably a pooled house.
 
So what if I and 81 of my closest friends walk into the pizza joint and they seat us. We each order a pizza and the hard working pizza makers shift into high gear. The servers bring us pizzas and drinks. We tip 25%. How much of that tip will the hard working pizza makers get? In most places I know of, the answer is $0.
You think it's normal/possible to walk in with 81 people and get service right away? You don't recognize that as "special" that would require a reservation/planning/special accommodations to make it happen?

That's the whole point.
Sure. We e reserved the banquet room and ordered ahead of time. How much do the pizza makers get tipped?

Have to imagine the servers ARE the ones making the pizzas in this scenario. I took a group of kids to a national chain pizza joint at 5pm. Wasn't too busy, mostly delivery orders or pickup orders but we dined in. The guy that rang me up was back there making the pizzas and pouring the beers. It wasn't fully staffed but it didn't need to be. I just figured most mid-sized pizza places or mom and pop places with dining room tables are staffed by people doing multiple jobs. Could be wrong.
Correct. I haven’t been to any pizza joints with banquet halls
 
So what if I and 81 of my closest friends walk into the pizza joint and they seat us. We each order a pizza and the hard working pizza makers shift into high gear. The servers bring us pizzas and drinks. We tip 25%. How much of that tip will the hard working pizza makers get? In most places I know of, the answer is $0.

Who gets the tip then? Doesn't the Fair Standards Labor Act prohibit owners and managers from pocketing tips?
Servers get tips. Cooks do not.

I was under the impression that servers have to 'tip out' the cooks. Is that not accurate? I know they 'tip out' bartenders.
Generally as a server you tip out the bartender, expediter/foodrunner, host stand and kitchen, unless there is a tip pool.
 
So what if I and 81 of my closest friends walk into the pizza joint and they seat us. We each order a pizza and the hard working pizza makers shift into high gear. The servers bring us pizzas and drinks. We tip 25%. How much of that tip will the hard working pizza makers get? In most places I know of, the answer is $0.

Who gets the tip then? Doesn't the Fair Standards Labor Act prohibit owners and managers from pocketing tips?
Servers get tips. Cooks do not.

I was under the impression that servers have to 'tip out' the cooks. Is that not accurate? I know they 'tip out' bartenders.
Generally as a server you tip out the bartender, expediter/foodrunner, host stand and kitchen, unless there is a tip pool.
Sadly no. The kitchen rarely gets tipped.
 
What's with the horrendous guilt tipping culture in this country? We're so backwards.
What’s with people feeling guilty about it? Buncha Nancy’s. If you don’t want to tip, don’t. Just because the stupid POS has a tip option doesn’t mean you have to tip. I’ll keep tipping anywhere I want to and don’t tip where I don’t want to. It’s not hard.
 
This is an insane take. If you can't afford to work there for the wage, get a different job. If you can't afford to pay them charge more. If you can't charge more, don't run a food business.
If you’re the customer choosing where to go, you are choosing the type of compensation you’re supporting. If you don’t want to tip, stick to counter serve and pizza joints.
If I'm the customer choosing where to go, I'm gonna choose based on what I want. I don't give a crap how you compensate the workers unless it affects the product I get. That's not my job. My job is to have preferences and pay for them.

Now if you just have caring about workers supercharged as some part of your identity, then it should be part of your preferences I guess. It's not part of mine, and nobody will impose it upon me.

So I will stick to the best products. The market will fix compensation. If the product gets worse because people aren't compensated enough to do a good enough job, then I'll stop going to that place. And that place will either wither and die or that place will raise compensation to get the requisite talent.

I would argue anyone doing anything otherwise is kind of interfering with the markets ability to operate.
So basically you don’t care about the workers. 👍
W/e helps you sleep at night.

I'd say, I care about all of us living in a properly functioning market, which would appropriately take care of workers. I'm one of the workers after all.

And me randomly tipping the people income into contact with would never solve the problem. It would make me feel good about doing something for one person, but bad about obfuscating income so that it never gets properly fixed.
You’re doing it wrong if it’s random.
This really isn’t difficult. Choose to go where you want, but understand the expectations including tipping when you do so. Or you’re cheating a worker out of their expected compensation.

The only way the market will change without cheating the workers is by going to places whose business plan doesn’t conflict with your values.
It would be random if it did it with every person some of the people in here are espousing (like a pizza place with no delivery or server).

I think you're saying the same thing as me but trying to sound disagreeable.
 
I tip everyone
Still waiting over here.
:oldunsure:
This is an insane take. If you can't afford to work there for the wage, get a different job. If you can't afford to pay them charge more. If you can't charge more, don't run a food business.
If you’re the customer choosing where to go, you are choosing the type of compensation you’re supporting. If you don’t want to tip, stick to counter serve and pizza joints.
If I'm the customer choosing where to go, I'm gonna choose based on what I want. I don't give a crap how you compensate the workers unless it affects the product I get. That's not my job. My job is to have preferences and pay for them.

Now if you just have caring about workers supercharged as some part of your identity, then it should be part of your preferences I guess. It's not part of mine, and nobody will impose it upon me.

So I will stick to the best products. The market will fix compensation. If the product gets worse because people aren't compensated enough to do a good enough job, then I'll stop going to that place. And that place will either wither and die or that place will raise compensation to get the requisite talent.

I would argue anyone doing anything otherwise is kind of interfering with the markets ability to operate.
So basically you don’t care about the workers. 👍
W/e helps you sleep at night.

I'd say, I care about all of us living in a properly functioning market, which would appropriately take care of workers. I'm one of the workers after all.

And me randomly tipping the people income into contact with would never solve the problem. It would make me feel good about doing something for one person, but bad about obfuscating income so that it never gets properly fixed.
You’re doing it wrong if it’s random.
This really isn’t difficult. Choose to go where you want, but understand the expectations including tipping when you do so. Or you’re cheating a worker out of their expected compensation.

The only way the market will change without cheating the workers is by going to places whose business plan doesn’t conflict with your values.
It would be random if it did it with every person some of the people in here are espousing (like a pizza place with no delivery or server).

I think you're saying the same thing as me but trying to sound disagreeable.
:lmao: Nice try to peg me as the disagreeable one.
On the pizza we agree, I think.
We seem to disagree pretty strongly on whether by choosing to go to a restaurant where tipping is customary, you should tip.
 
Bet some of you guys don't tip strippers either
One of the highlights of my life was convincing a Vegas stripper to tip me a dollar to give me a lap dance. Sigh.
I wouldn't be so proud if it was only worth a dollar to her.
She also asked for my phone number. I did not provide an accurate one.
Dummy
Have you forgotten my dating follies? I know it's been awhile.
 
What's with the horrendous guilt tipping culture in this country? We're so backwards.

Because servers make more by guilting you into a 25% tip than they would making a flat $20 an hour? 4 tables @ $100 a table is $100 an hour in tips

Because owners don’t have to pay the servers $20 an hour during a slow 2-4 PM shift? Instead you can come in and pay their wage
 
It's that this (making pizzas) is clearly NOT what tipping is for or how it works, or a job that is ripped.
It's not making pizzas, it is making 82 pizzas.
What if it was 41 pizza?
20?
8?
2?

You still tipping on all of those?
Yep
How about McDonalds?
5 guys?
Panda Express?
Jersey mikes?

Just trying to figure out why pizza seems to be special vs other fast food / fast casual restaurants?
 
It's that this (making pizzas) is clearly NOT what tipping is for or how it works, or a job that is ripped.
It's not making pizzas, it is making 82 pizzas.
How is 82 pizzas for 41 people different than for 1?
Because if it is online ordering or in person the 82 pizzas for 41 people would not come out at the same time. I am sure the kids in this pizza joint busted their *** way more on this order of 82 than they typically do. I appreciate the effort and throw them some extra cash as a thanks. It doesn't cost much to be a nice guy and in this case I for sure would have the parent association reimburse me so in fact it would cost me nothing besides my small share
You keep saying kids but what what if it was a 50 year old owner and his wife?

What if papa John himself was there that day making the pizzas?
 
It's that this (making pizzas) is clearly NOT what tipping is for or how it works, or a job that is ripped.
It's not making pizzas, it is making 82 pizzas.
What if it was 41 pizza?
20?
8?
2?

You still tipping on all of those?
Yep
How about McDonalds?
5 guys?
Panda Express?
Jersey mikes?

Just trying to figure out why pizza seems to be special vs other fast food / fast casual restaurants?
The distinction right or wrong is "takeout" vs. just stopping in and ordering the food. But you're right there's not much of a distinction other than some sort of expectation. There's a Blaze pizza near me where they make the pizza in like 5-10 minutes as you wait and I generally don't tip for that, but if I order the pie ahead of time I'll tip a couple bucks.
 
Bet some of you guys don't tip strippers either
One of the highlights of my life was convincing a Vegas stripper to tip me a dollar to give me a lap dance. Sigh.
I wouldn't be so proud if it was only worth a dollar to her.
She also asked for my phone number. I did not provide an accurate one.
Dummy
Have you forgotten my dating follies? I know it's been awhile.
Think of your legacy. It should be in there. :lmao: I have a similar mistake. Houston. 1990. I have really long hair. I am an anomaly in TX I’m in the wedding party. We’re at a strip club. Wedding is in the morning. Stripper wanted to take me home. I was actually in her car at 3am or so. Friends drag me out of the car because they know if I go with her,there’s no way I make the wedding. :shrug: no ragrets
 
It's that this (making pizzas) is clearly NOT what tipping is for or how it works, or a job that is ripped.
It's not making pizzas, it is making 82 pizzas.
What if it was 41 pizza?
20?
8?
2?

You still tipping on all of those?
Yep
How about McDonalds?
5 guys?
Panda Express?
Jersey mikes?

Just trying to figure out why pizza seems to be special vs other fast food / fast casual restaurants?
I very very rarely eat fast food. Usually it’s through the drive through on road trips only. So nope
 
It's that this (making pizzas) is clearly NOT what tipping is for or how it works, or a job that is ripped.
It's not making pizzas, it is making 82 pizzas.
How is 82 pizzas for 41 people different than for 1?
Because if it is online ordering or in person the 82 pizzas for 41 people would not come out at the same time. I am sure the kids in this pizza joint busted their *** way more on this order of 82 than they typically do. I appreciate the effort and throw them some extra cash as a thanks. It doesn't cost much to be a nice guy and in this case I for sure would have the parent association reimburse me so in fact it would cost me nothing besides my small share
You keep saying kids but what what if it was a 50 year old owner and his wife?

What if papa John himself was there that day making the pizzas?
In my story above in RI it was the owner and his buddy. Mid forties. The buddy was just hanging out.
 
I tip everyone
Still waiting over here.
:oldunsure:
This is an insane take. If you can't afford to work there for the wage, get a different job. If you can't afford to pay them charge more. If you can't charge more, don't run a food business.
If you’re the customer choosing where to go, you are choosing the type of compensation you’re supporting. If you don’t want to tip, stick to counter serve and pizza joints.
If I'm the customer choosing where to go, I'm gonna choose based on what I want. I don't give a crap how you compensate the workers unless it affects the product I get. That's not my job. My job is to have preferences and pay for them.

Now if you just have caring about workers supercharged as some part of your identity, then it should be part of your preferences I guess. It's not part of mine, and nobody will impose it upon me.

So I will stick to the best products. The market will fix compensation. If the product gets worse because people aren't compensated enough to do a good enough job, then I'll stop going to that place. And that place will either wither and die or that place will raise compensation to get the requisite talent.

I would argue anyone doing anything otherwise is kind of interfering with the markets ability to operate.
So basically you don’t care about the workers. 👍
W/e helps you sleep at night.

I'd say, I care about all of us living in a properly functioning market, which would appropriately take care of workers. I'm one of the workers after all.

And me randomly tipping the people income into contact with would never solve the problem. It would make me feel good about doing something for one person, but bad about obfuscating income so that it never gets properly fixed.
You’re doing it wrong if it’s random.
This really isn’t difficult. Choose to go where you want, but understand the expectations including tipping when you do so. Or you’re cheating a worker out of their expected compensation.

The only way the market will change without cheating the workers is by going to places whose business plan doesn’t conflict with your values.
It would be random if it did it with every person some of the people in here are espousing (like a pizza place with no delivery or server).

I think you're saying the same thing as me but trying to sound disagreeable.
:lmao: Nice try to peg me as the disagreeable one.
On the pizza we agree, I think.
We seem to disagree pretty strongly on whether by choosing to go to a restaurant where tipping is customary, you should tip.
We do not disagree on that. If there's disagreement, it's at which establishments are tipping habits customary. I think I pretty clearly said "we aren't talking about servers..." which would imply it's obvious that a server is customarily tipped. I think I extended it, without going ad nauseam, to caddies and bellhops and a few other spots, not meant to be exhaustive.

But reading can be hard when following multiple chains and everything's not in exactly one quoted post, so I don't fault you for missing it!
 
So what if I and 81 of my closest friends walk into the pizza joint and they seat us. We each order a pizza and the hard working pizza makers shift into high gear. The servers bring us pizzas and drinks. We tip 25%. How much of that tip will the hard working pizza makers get? In most places I know of, the answer is $0.
You think it's normal/possible to walk in with 81 people and get service right away? You don't recognize that as "special" that would require a reservation/planning/special accommodations to make it happen?

That's the whole point.

I think its a hypothetical used to illustrate the point, not meant to be a real life example. But the point stands - whether a pizza place is busy or not, the delivery and waitstaff get tips while the guys cooking pizzas generally don't. If you have a large party at a restaurant, your waitstaff should get a nice tip for the extra trouble, but we don't normally think about tipping the cooks and dishwashers due to the extra workload for them because those positions don't typically work for tips. When you take a cab ride, you don't expect to tip the dispatcher and mechanics back at the shop, nor do they typically work for tips, even though they are part of the team making your ride possible. Pizza cooks are in the same boat for better or worse. I would be totally fine with someone tipping the cooks in this situation, but I don't think its necessary or expected. If the organization making the order didn't give them a day or two notice, causing extra stress on the pizza cooks, that's a completely separate issue for me.
 
So what if I and 81 of my closest friends walk into the pizza joint and they seat us. We each order a pizza and the hard working pizza makers shift into high gear. The servers bring us pizzas and drinks. We tip 25%. How much of that tip will the hard working pizza makers get? In most places I know of, the answer is $0.
You think it's normal/possible to walk in with 81 people and get service right away? You don't recognize that as "special" that would require a reservation/planning/special accommodations to make it happen?

That's the whole point.

I think its a hypothetical used to illustrate the point, not meant to be a real life example. But the point stands - whether a pizza place is busy or not, the delivery and waitstaff get tips while the guys cooking pizzas generally don't. If you have a large party at a restaurant, your waitstaff should get a nice tip for the extra trouble, but we don't normally think about tipping the cooks and dishwashers due to the extra workload for them because those positions don't typically work for tips. When you take a cab ride, you don't expect to tip the dispatcher and mechanics back at the shop, nor do they typically work for tips, even though they are part of the team making your ride possible. Pizza cooks are in the same boat for better or worse. I would be totally fine with someone tipping the cooks in this situation, but I don't think its necessary or expected. If the organization making the order didn't give them a day or two notice, causing extra stress on the pizza cooks, that's a completely separate issue for me.
Voice of Reason.. Nice post
 
Bet some of you guys don't tip strippers either
One of the highlights of my life was convincing a Vegas stripper to tip me a dollar to give me a lap dance. Sigh.
I wouldn't be so proud if it was only worth a dollar to her.
She also asked for my phone number. I did not provide an accurate one.
Dummy
Have you forgotten my dating follies? I know it's been awhile.
Think of your legacy. It should be in there. :lmao: I have a similar mistake. Houston. 1990. I have really long hair. I am an anomaly in TX I’m in the wedding party. We’re at a strip club. Wedding is in the morning. Stripper wanted to take me home. I was actually in her car at 3am or so. Friends drag me out of the car because they know if I go with her,there’s no way I make the wedding. :shrug: no ragrets
Yeah, I was dating RacistEx at the time - at that early point where everything was sunshine and rainbows and I didn't realize she embraced her namesake - and didn't feel great about taking anything further. And part of my was like, "This could be amazing, but not sure I want a stripper (who presumably comes with some substance abuse issues or some such) know how to contact me thereafter." Last part was it was my buddy's bachelor party and I was kind of in charge of everything and didn't want to bail on the guys.

Say what you want about ignorant young Woz, but he didn't cheat.
 
My wife, who during grad school in Chicago did consulting for one of the famous pizza chains, tells me that to tip in this situation would be patently ridiculous and that if you think those guys just buckled down and did some amazing extra work for the order you are nuts. They have a capacity and throughput and they'll kick other orders away or extend the ready time if a giant order comes in.

She said if it is a true mom and pop, one or two shops and that's it, you could argue it's a different story. She also said if anyone has follow ups she's happy to answer.
 
Or move to another country where the prices will be higher so you're paying the same thing, but you won't have to do the math to pay the person serving you a reasonable tip.
Fair enough

I’m still not tipping for takeout. And I am one of those who over tips his bartenders , waitresses etc 99% of the time
 
One place I would absolutely tip right now if it still existed.... early 1990s Pizza Hut. Man that was the bomb. Why did they ever mess that up?
 
So what if I and 81 of my closest friends walk into the pizza joint and they seat us. We each order a pizza and the hard working pizza makers shift into high gear. The servers bring us pizzas and drinks. We tip 25%. How much of that tip will the hard working pizza makers get? In most places I know of, the answer is $0.

Who gets the tip then? Doesn't the Fair Standards Labor Act prohibit owners and managers from pocketing tips?
Servers get tips. Cooks do not.

I was under the impression that servers have to 'tip out' the cooks. Is that not accurate? I know they 'tip out' bartenders.
Generally as a server you tip out the bartender, expediter/foodrunner, host stand and kitchen, unless there is a tip pool.
Sure

This was papa freakin John’s
 
My wife, who during grad school in Chicago did consulting for one of the famous pizza chains, tells me that to tip in this situation would be patently ridiculous and that if you think those guys just buckled down and did some amazing extra work for the order you are nuts. They have a capacity and throughput and they'll kick other orders away or extend the ready time if a giant order comes in.

She said if it is a true mom and pop, one or two shops and that's it, you could argue it's a different story. She also said if anyone has follow ups she's happy to answer.
You guys have never worked in a service industry I’m thinking……..
 

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