Mike McCarthy will be a flop as Packers HC (1 Viewer)

[sho nuff]

I didn't see anything egregiously wrong with McCarthy's coaching today. He got unlucky. Only a miraculous finish loses that game for him - as in 1 in a thousand. He put his team in a position where the only thing that beats them is a miracle, and it happened.

Not to keep harping on this but the defense/special teams generating 5 turnovers is what put them in a position to win not really anything thing McCarthy did. He has the MVP at QB and didn't really attack Seattle's defense at all...especially in the 4th quarter with Sherman out there with 1 arm.

Which is exactly what Rodgers alluded to in his post game comments. McCarthy played conservatively - again - and it cost them. Should we and could we have still won? Sure. Did it take fluke plays for us to lose? Sure. But it never should have come to that.

I keep reading this...was it conservative when Rodgers threw the last INT he did? When everyone complained they should have been running the ball? IMO, that was part of what made them go a little more conservative.

They played how teams typically play with a 12 point lead late.

They tried running the 4 minute offense late...a thing they have done quite a few times successfully this year (including last week). Quarless drops the pass on 3rd down.

And again, Rodgers can be mad at MM over that, and himself as he has the authority to change things at the line and didn't do it.

So many things have to happen for GB to lose that game...and they all happened. If only one of those things doesn't happen and they win...are we not talking about how McCarthy and GB went into a stadium where teams don't win, and beat a team that nearly everyone thought they would lose to?

I get being pissed.

Slocum needs to be gone, not being prepared on the fake FG, and the misplaying of the 2 point conversion is not acceptable. (adding on to all the special teams problems this year and over the years with him as coach).

Im not going to say fire capers...that 3rd and long was awful and 99% of that game his defense played incredibly well. But if he "steps down", I would not have a problem with that.

McCarthy is and should be safe.

 

[sho nuff]

The only part of offensive calling I will really be pissed at late was not throwing more at Sherman or to his side and make him defend or tackle with that one arm.

That is on both McCarthy and Rodgers.

 

[Pipes]

I didn't see anything egregiously wrong with McCarthy's coaching today. He got unlucky. Only a miraculous finish loses that game for him - as in 1 in a thousand. He put his team in a position where the only thing that beats them is a miracle, and it happened.

Not to keep harping on this but the defense/special teams generating 5 turnovers is what put them in a position to win not really anything thing McCarthy did. He has the MVP at QB and didn't really attack Seattle's defense at all...especially in the 4th quarter with Sherman out there with 1 arm.

Which is exactly what Rodgers alluded to in his post game comments. McCarthy played conservatively - again - and it cost them. Should we and could we have still won? Sure. Did it take fluke plays for us to lose? Sure. But it never should have come to that.

I keep reading this...was it conservative when Rodgers threw the last INT he did? When everyone complained they should have been running the ball? IMO, that was part of what made them go a little more conservative.

They played how teams typically play with a 12 point lead late.

They tried running the 4 minute offense late...a thing they have done quite a few times successfully this year (including last week). Quarless drops the pass on 3rd down.

And again, Rodgers can be mad at MM over that, and himself as he has the authority to change things at the line and didn't do it.

So many things have to happen for GB to lose that game...and they all happened. If only one of those things doesn't happen and they win...are we not talking about how McCarthy and GB went into a stadium where teams don't win, and beat a team that nearly everyone thought they would lose to?

I get being pissed.

Slocum needs to be gone, not being prepared on the fake FG, and the misplaying of the 2 point conversion is not acceptable. (adding on to all the special teams problems this year and over the years with him as coach).

Im not going to say fire capers...that 3rd and long was awful and 99% of that game his defense played incredibly well. But if he "steps down", I would not have a problem with that.

McCarthy is and should be safe.

That 2nd Rodgers interception was in the 2nd quarter. They were in an offensive shell the entire 2nd half. Yes Rodgers played below par as well but the play calling didn't help since he didn't get a chance to get into a rhythm. That hurry up worked great that last drive why not incorporate that earlier in the game? It's like when they were up 13-0 in the first he decided to go into a shell. I didn't mind the 2 first quarter FGs since they aren't very good at short yardage and not getting points there is not acceptable. I like McCarthy but he had a poor day yesterday. I don't want him fired but I don't agree with the sentiment that he had a good game plan. 22 points off 5 turnovers is not a good gameplan, that sucks. And seriously stop giving the ball to John Kuhn.

I completely agree on Slocum. Do they not have a safe defense on FG attempts? When is the last time a Packer blocked a FG crashing hard from the outside?

 

[Pipes]

I didn't see anything egregiously wrong with McCarthy's coaching today. He got unlucky. Only a miraculous finish loses that game for him - as in 1 in a thousand. He put his team in a position where the only thing that beats them is a miracle, and it happened.

Not to keep harping on this but the defense/special teams generating 5 turnovers is what put them in a position to win not really anything thing McCarthy did. He has the MVP at QB and didn't really attack Seattle's defense at all...especially in the 4th quarter with Sherman out there with 1 arm.

Which is exactly what Rodgers alluded to in his post game comments. McCarthy played conservatively - again - and it cost them. Should we and could we have still won? Sure. Did it take fluke plays for us to lose? Sure. But it never should have come to that.

I keep reading this...was it conservative when Rodgers threw the last INT he did? When everyone complained they should have been running the ball? IMO, that was part of what made them go a little more conservative.

They played how teams typically play with a 12 point lead late.

They tried running the 4 minute offense late...a thing they have done quite a few times successfully this year (including last week). Quarless drops the pass on 3rd down.

And again, Rodgers can be mad at MM over that, and himself as he has the authority to change things at the line and didn't do it.

So many things have to happen for GB to lose that game...and they all happened. If only one of those things doesn't happen and they win...are we not talking about how McCarthy and GB went into a stadium where teams don't win, and beat a team that nearly everyone thought they would lose to?

I get being pissed.

Slocum needs to be gone, not being prepared on the fake FG, and the misplaying of the 2 point conversion is not acceptable. (adding on to all the special teams problems this year and over the years with him as coach).

Im not going to say fire capers...that 3rd and long was awful and 99% of that game his defense played incredibly well. But if he "steps down", I would not have a problem with that.

McCarthy is and should be safe.

I kept hearing this on the post game radio show and while it's true Rodgers is limited to the personnel group that's on the field which was there heavy run package most of that 4th quarter. Again I understand milking the clock but great teams have a killer instinct...Seattle does Green Bay not so much.

 

[DocHolliday]

The only part of offensive calling I will really be pissed at late was not throwing more at Sherman or to his side and make him defend or tackle with that one arm.

That is on both McCarthy and Rodgers.

This is the part that baffles me. Everyone watching the game with me wondered over and over why there were not more runs or passes towards Sherman. He only had one arm. GB deserved to lose that game. They played not to lose.

 

[IndyHavoc]

The only part of offensive calling I will really be pissed at late was not throwing more at Sherman or to his side and make him defend or tackle with that one arm.

That is on both McCarthy and Rodgers.

This is the part that baffles me. Everyone watching the game with me wondered over and over why there were not more runs or passes towards Sherman. He only had one arm. GB deserved to lose that game. They played not to lose.

Agreed. Watching those 3 and outs in the 4th with Sherman out there gimpy as can be. Didn't throw at him, didn't even RUN at him. Seriously, watch the tape, run off left tackle again and again. When someone shows a weakness like that, you attack it. Love GB, hate Seattle. Spent the 4th quarter cheering for Seahags. And when Kearse caught the TD, all I could think of was "The Football Gods have served up Justice upon thee!" Both the offense, and more importantly (IMO) the defense went into "play not to lose mode"...and got what they deserved.

 

[VTjkru]

McCarthy should still be the coach but his game management skills are baffling and he should pass play calling duties off to someone else. Great article on McCarthy's miscues that cost the Packers this game:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/afc-nfc-championship-patriots-colts-seahawks-packers/

Sunday will go down as the proof that he’s hopelessly lost when it comes to game management. Blessed with a bevy of Seattle turnovers that yielded incredible field position, an effective running game, and Aaron freaking Rodgers, McCarthy managed to coach his way into 22 points and a heartbreaking defeat.

What was bizarre, then, was McCarthy’s comment after the game that he was trying to hit a particular number. “The one statistic I had as far as a target to hit,” McCarthy said, “was 20 rushing attempts in the second half. I felt that would be a very important target to hit for our offense.” I can’t fathom how coaches still say stuff like that in 2014. It’s been clear for 11 years now that teams run the ball a lot when they’re winning as opposed to winning when they run the ball.

In a playoff where the likes of Carroll, Bill Belichick, and Jason Garrett have been rewarded for their aggressive decisions, McCarthy played it safe and ended up inadvertently aiding his team’s trip out of the playoffs. McCarthy took the points and ended up getting taken.

 

[Da Guru]

The only part of offensive calling I will really be pissed at late was not throwing more at Sherman or to his side and make him defend or tackle with that one arm.

That is on both McCarthy and Rodgers.

This is the part that baffles me. Everyone watching the game with me wondered over and over why there were not more runs or passes towards Sherman. He only had one arm. GB deserved to lose that game. They played not to lose.

Agreed. Watching those 3 and outs in the 4th with Sherman out there gimpy as can be. Didn't throw at him, didn't even RUN at him. Seriously, watch the tape, run off left tackle again and again. When someone shows a weakness like that, you attack it. Love GB, hate Seattle. Spent the 4th quarter cheering for Seahags. And when Kearse caught the TD, all I could think of was "The Football Gods have served up Justice upon thee!" Both the offense, and more importantly (IMO) the defense went into "play not to lose mode"...and got what they deserved.

I thought for sure that they would run sweeps, screens, or short passes right at Sherman, attack him every play. Sherman could not use his arm and looked like he did not want to be out there... a sitting duck that could not tackle. Hard to believe Seattle let him continue to play, harder to believe that GB did not attack him every play.

 

[Pipes]

The only part of offensive calling I will really be pissed at late was not throwing more at Sherman or to his side and make him defend or tackle with that one arm.

That is on both McCarthy and Rodgers.

This is the part that baffles me. Everyone watching the game with me wondered over and over why there were not more runs or passes towards Sherman. He only had one arm. GB deserved to lose that game. They played not to lose.

Agreed. Watching those 3 and outs in the 4th with Sherman out there gimpy as can be. Didn't throw at him, didn't even RUN at him. Seriously, watch the tape, run off left tackle again and again. When someone shows a weakness like that, you attack it. Love GB, hate Seattle. Spent the 4th quarter cheering for Seahags. And when Kearse caught the TD, all I could think of was "The Football Gods have served up Justice upon thee!" Both the offense, and more importantly (IMO) the defense went into "play not to lose mode"...and got what they deserved.

I thought for sure that they would run sweeps, screens, or short passes right at Sherman, attack him every play. Sherman could not use his arm and looked like he did not want to be out there... a sitting duck that could not tackle. Hard to believe Seattle let him continue to play, harder to believe that GB did not attack him every play.

Colossal fail on McCarthy's part way worse than those FG's in the 1st quarter.

 

[sho nuff]

I didn't see anything egregiously wrong with McCarthy's coaching today. He got unlucky. Only a miraculous finish loses that game for him - as in 1 in a thousand. He put his team in a position where the only thing that beats them is a miracle, and it happened.

Not to keep harping on this but the defense/special teams generating 5 turnovers is what put them in a position to win not really anything thing McCarthy did. He has the MVP at QB and didn't really attack Seattle's defense at all...especially in the 4th quarter with Sherman out there with 1 arm.

Which is exactly what Rodgers alluded to in his post game comments. McCarthy played conservatively - again - and it cost them. Should we and could we have still won? Sure. Did it take fluke plays for us to lose? Sure. But it never should have come to that.

I keep reading this...was it conservative when Rodgers threw the last INT he did? When everyone complained they should have been running the ball? IMO, that was part of what made them go a little more conservative.

They played how teams typically play with a 12 point lead late.

They tried running the 4 minute offense late...a thing they have done quite a few times successfully this year (including last week). Quarless drops the pass on 3rd down.

And again, Rodgers can be mad at MM over that, and himself as he has the authority to change things at the line and didn't do it.

So many things have to happen for GB to lose that game...and they all happened. If only one of those things doesn't happen and they win...are we not talking about how McCarthy and GB went into a stadium where teams don't win, and beat a team that nearly everyone thought they would lose to?

I get being pissed.

Slocum needs to be gone, not being prepared on the fake FG, and the misplaying of the 2 point conversion is not acceptable. (adding on to all the special teams problems this year and over the years with him as coach).

Im not going to say fire capers...that 3rd and long was awful and 99% of that game his defense played incredibly well. But if he "steps down", I would not have a problem with that.

McCarthy is and should be safe.

That 2nd Rodgers interception was in the 2nd quarter. They were in an offensive shell the entire 2nd half. Yes Rodgers played below par as well but the play calling didn't help since he didn't get a chance to get into a rhythm. That hurry up worked great that last drive why not incorporate that earlier in the game? It's like when they were up 13-0 in the first he decided to go into a shell. I didn't mind the 2 first quarter FGs since they aren't very good at short yardage and not getting points there is not acceptable. I like McCarthy but he had a poor day yesterday. I don't want him fired but I don't agree with the sentiment that he had a good game plan. 22 points off 5 turnovers is not a good gameplan, that sucks. And seriously stop giving the ball to John Kuhn.

I completely agree on Slocum. Do they not have a safe defense on FG attempts? When is the last time a Packer blocked a FG crashing hard from the outside?

They did run some hurry up early...were getting some nice offsides calls on it too.

But here is the 2nd half.

1st drive 2 ok runs and an incomplete pass on 3rd down.

2nd drive

Pass to Jordy for 12, pass to Cobb for 2, incomplete, sacked (conservative there?)

Next drive is in the 4th Q

Run for 5, for 7, for 32, for 5, for 3...conservative but moving the ball well and taking clock.

Pass for 7 to get a 1st down.

Run for 3...then 2 incomplete passes and settled for a FG to go up by 12.

Thats it...then you have the last drive after the INT...2 ok runs setting up 3rd and 4...make them take TOs and run the 4 minute offense.

Incomplete pass to Quarless that if he holds on is a 1st down and bleeds much more clock.

None of that seems all that ultra conservative.

 

[sho nuff]

The only part of offensive calling I will really be pissed at late was not throwing more at Sherman or to his side and make him defend or tackle with that one arm.

That is on both McCarthy and Rodgers.

This is the part that baffles me. Everyone watching the game with me wondered over and over why there were not more runs or passes towards Sherman. He only had one arm. GB deserved to lose that game. They played not to lose.

Agreed. Watching those 3 and outs in the 4th with Sherman out there gimpy as can be. Didn't throw at him, didn't even RUN at him. Seriously, watch the tape, run off left tackle again and again. When someone shows a weakness like that, you attack it. Love GB, hate Seattle. Spent the 4th quarter cheering for Seahags. And when Kearse caught the TD, all I could think of was "The Football Gods have served up Justice upon thee!" Both the offense, and more importantly (IMO) the defense went into "play not to lose mode"...and got what they deserved.

Only went 3 and out twice in the 2nd half...only once after Sherman was dinged.

 

[IndyHavoc]

1. 4th Quarter Green Bay Packers continues ...
2. 1-10-GB 25(15:00) (Shotgun) 44-J.Starks left tackle pushed ob at SEA 43 for 32 yards (25-R.Sherman).
3. 1-10-SEA 43(14:20) (Shotgun) PENALTY on GB-75-B.Bulaga, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at SEA 43 - No Play.
4. 1-15-SEA 48(14:01) (Shotgun) 27-E.Lacy left tackle to SEA 43 for 5 yards (20-J.Lane; 93-O.Schofield).
5. 2-10-SEA 43(13:23) (Shotgun) 44-J.Starks left guard to SEA 40 for 3 yards (56-C.Avril).
6. 3-7-SEA 40(12:41) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass short middle to 89-R.Rodgers to SEA 33 for 7 yards (31-K.Chancellor).
7. 1-10-SEA 33(11:58) (Shotgun) 44-J.Starks left tackle to SEA 30 for 3 yards (20-J.Lane).
8. 2-7-SEA 30(11:11) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete deep right to 44-J.Starks.
9. 3-7-SEA 30(11:04) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete short left to 44-J.Starks [51-B.Irvin].
10. 4-7-SEA 30(10:58) 2-M.Crosby 48 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-61-B.Goode, Holder-8-T.Masthay.

Sherman gets hurt on that long Starks run. At that point there was absolutely NO doubt in anyone's mind what the Packers needed to do to win.

Instead, the next time they get the ball back...

1. Green Bay Packers at 06:53
2. 1-10-GB 13(6:53) (Shotgun) 44-J.Starks right end to GB 14 for 1 yard (50-K.Wright).
3. 2-9-GB 14(6:09) (Shotgun) 44-J.Starks up the middle to GB 19 for 5 yards (50-K.Wright).
4. 3-4-GB 19(5:26) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete short right to 81-A.Quarless (50-K.Wright).
5. 4-4-GB 19(5:22) 8-T.Masthay punts 37 yards to SEA 44, Center-61-B.Goode. 19-B.Walters to SEA 46 for 2 yards (31-D.House; 86-B.Bostick).

Then, uh oh, momentum is shifting, we need to do something here to wrap this thing up...

1. Green Bay Packers at 05:04
2. 1-10-GB 43(5:04) (Shotgun) 27-E.Lacy left tackle to GB 39 for -4 yards (94-K.Williams).
3. Timeout #1 by SEA at 04:57.
4. 2-14-GB 39(4:57) (Shotgun) 27-E.Lacy left tackle to GB 37 for -2 yards (72-M.Bennett).
5. Timeout #2 by SEA at 04:50.
6. 3-16-GB 37(4:50) (Shotgun) 27-E.Lacy up the middle to GB 39 for 2 yards (54-B.Wagner; 72-M.Bennett).
7. 4-14-GB 39(4:00) 8-T.Masthay punts 30 yards to SEA 31, Center-61-B.Goode, out of bounds.

Yeah, that's is the definition of playing NOT to lose, instead of playing to win.

 

[cvnpoka]

GB was outcoached and it wasn't close.

ya he got outcoached by a guy who kicked an xp down 16-7 and punted with 4m left down 19-7.

 

[sho nuff]

1. 4th Quarter Green Bay Packers continues ...
2. 1-10-GB 25(15:00) (Shotgun) 44-J.Starks left tackle pushed ob at SEA 43 for 32 yards (25-R.Sherman).
3. 1-10-SEA 43(14:20) (Shotgun) PENALTY on GB-75-B.Bulaga, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at SEA 43 - No Play.
4. 1-15-SEA 48(14:01) (Shotgun) 27-E.Lacy left tackle to SEA 43 for 5 yards (20-J.Lane; 93-O.Schofield).
5. 2-10-SEA 43(13:23) (Shotgun) 44-J.Starks left guard to SEA 40 for 3 yards (56-C.Avril).
6. 3-7-SEA 40(12:41) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass short middle to 89-R.Rodgers to SEA 33 for 7 yards (31-K.Chancellor).
7. 1-10-SEA 33(11:58) (Shotgun) 44-J.Starks left tackle to SEA 30 for 3 yards (20-J.Lane).
8. 2-7-SEA 30(11:11) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete deep right to 44-J.Starks.
9. 3-7-SEA 30(11:04) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete short left to 44-J.Starks [51-B.Irvin].
10. 4-7-SEA 30(10:58) 2-M.Crosby 48 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-61-B.Goode, Holder-8-T.Masthay.

Sherman gets hurt on that long Starks run. At that point there was absolutely NO doubt in anyone's mind what the Packers needed to do to win.

Instead, the next time they get the ball back...

Sho: Except for that deep pass to Starks up the right side on 2nd and 7? Was that conservative?

1. Green Bay Packers at 06:53
2. 1-10-GB 13(6:53) (Shotgun) 44-J.Starks right end to GB 14 for 1 yard (50-K.Wright).
3. 2-9-GB 14(6:09) (Shotgun) 44-J.Starks up the middle to GB 19 for 5 yards (50-K.Wright).
4. 3-4-GB 19(5:26) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete short right to 81-A.Quarless (50-K.Wright).
5. 4-4-GB 19(5:22) 8-T.Masthay punts 37 yards to SEA 44, Center-61-B.Goode. 19-B.Walters to SEA 46 for 2 yards (31-D.House; 86-B.Bostick).

Sho: I was messed up on this above and took this as the last drive...my bad. This was not a terrible play calling. Got 5 yards on 2nd down to get 3rd and manageable and take time off the clock. Quarless has to catch that pass.

Then, uh oh, momentum is shifting, we need to do something here to wrap this thing up...

1. Green Bay Packers at 05:04
2. 1-10-GB 43(5:04) (Shotgun) 27-E.Lacy left tackle to GB 39 for -4 yards (94-K.Williams).
3. Timeout #1 by SEA at 04:57.
4. 2-14-GB 39(4:57) (Shotgun) 27-E.Lacy left tackle to GB 37 for -2 yards (72-M.Bennett).
5. Timeout #2 by SEA at 04:50.
6. 3-16-GB 37(4:50) (Shotgun) 27-E.Lacy up the middle to GB 39 for 2 yards (54-B.Wagner; 72-M.Bennett).
7. 4-14-GB 39(4:00) 8-T.Masthay punts 30 yards to SEA 31, Center-61-B.Goode, out of bounds.

These were to force the timeouts...I have no problem with the first run...maybe a short pass on 2nd looks better and keeps the clock moving. And I get the criticism of 3rd and long...but it took a lot of time off the clock and at that point the clock was our friend.

Yeah, that's is the definition of playing NOT to lose, instead of playing to win.

Added some thoughts in bold.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I don't blame the coach. He put his team in an excellent position to win. Not his fault his team couldn't execute at a junior high level in the last couple minutes.

 

[Sabertooth]

The Seahawks were only able to come back because of Mike McCarthy's horrendous coaching decisions

This is always the problem with McCarthy, no accountability. He's a know it all who never ever admits he screwed up badly and cost the team a win.

 

[fatboyj711]

1. 4th Quarter Green Bay Packers continues ...
2. 1-10-GB 25(15:00) (Shotgun) 44-J.Starks left tackle pushed ob at SEA 43 for 32 yards (25-R.Sherman).
3. 1-10-SEA 43(14:20) (Shotgun) PENALTY on GB-75-B.Bulaga, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at SEA 43 - No Play.
4. 1-15-SEA 48(14:01) (Shotgun) 27-E.Lacy left tackle to SEA 43 for 5 yards (20-J.Lane; 93-O.Schofield).
5. 2-10-SEA 43(13:23) (Shotgun) 44-J.Starks left guard to SEA 40 for 3 yards (56-C.Avril).
6. 3-7-SEA 40(12:41) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass short middle to 89-R.Rodgers to SEA 33 for 7 yards (31-K.Chancellor).
7. 1-10-SEA 33(11:58) (Shotgun) 44-J.Starks left tackle to SEA 30 for 3 yards (20-J.Lane).
8. 2-7-SEA 30(11:11) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete deep right to 44-J.Starks.
9. 3-7-SEA 30(11:04) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete short left to 44-J.Starks [51-B.Irvin].
10. 4-7-SEA 30(10:58) 2-M.Crosby 48 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-61-B.Goode, Holder-8-T.Masthay.

Sherman gets hurt on that long Starks run. At that point there was absolutely NO doubt in anyone's mind what the Packers needed to do to win.

Instead, the next time they get the ball back...

Sho: Except for that deep pass to Starks up the right side on 2nd and 7? Was that conservative?

1. Green Bay Packers at 06:53
2. 1-10-GB 13(6:53) (Shotgun) 44-J.Starks right end to GB 14 for 1 yard (50-K.Wright).
3. 2-9-GB 14(6:09) (Shotgun) 44-J.Starks up the middle to GB 19 for 5 yards (50-K.Wright).
4. 3-4-GB 19(5:26) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete short right to 81-A.Quarless (50-K.Wright).
5. 4-4-GB 19(5:22) 8-T.Masthay punts 37 yards to SEA 44, Center-61-B.Goode. 19-B.Walters to SEA 46 for 2 yards (31-D.House; 86-B.Bostick).

Sho: I was messed up on this above and took this as the last drive...my bad. This was not a terrible play calling. Got 5 yards on 2nd down to get 3rd and manageable and take time off the clock. Quarless has to catch that pass.

Then, uh oh, momentum is shifting, we need to do something here to wrap this thing up...

1. Green Bay Packers at 05:04
2. 1-10-GB 43(5:04) (Shotgun) 27-E.Lacy left tackle to GB 39 for -4 yards (94-K.Williams).
3. Timeout #1 by SEA at 04:57.
4. 2-14-GB 39(4:57) (Shotgun) 27-E.Lacy left tackle to GB 37 for -2 yards (72-M.Bennett).
5. Timeout #2 by SEA at 04:50.
6. 3-16-GB 37(4:50) (Shotgun) 27-E.Lacy up the middle to GB 39 for 2 yards (54-B.Wagner; 72-M.Bennett).
7. 4-14-GB 39(4:00) 8-T.Masthay punts 30 yards to SEA 31, Center-61-B.Goode, out of bounds.

These were to force the timeouts...I have no problem with the first run...maybe a short pass on 2nd looks better and keeps the clock moving. And I get the criticism of 3rd and long...but it took a lot of time off the clock and at that point the clock was our friend.

Yeah, that's is the definition of playing NOT to lose, instead of playing to win.

Added some thoughts in bold.

McCarthy obviously didn't run the ball every play in the 2nd half, but I don't think anyone can honestly debate that he didn't get conservative with his playcalling. Straight from the horses mouth from a previous post:

“The one statistic I had as far as a target to hit,” McCarthy said, “was 20 rushing attempts in the second half. I felt that would be a very important target to hit for our offense.”

I don't believe this is the reason why GB ultimately lost considering the series of events that unfolded that led to the Hawks winning, but McCarthy clearly was playing not to lose in the 2nd half opposed to going for the kill.

 

[Sabertooth]

McCarthy isn't about to admit fault on anything. He could easily say "this one's on me." But he won't. Ever.

 

[CalBear]

McCarthy isn't about to admit fault on anything. He could easily say "this one's on me." But he won't. Ever.

You'd rather have Andy Reid, making the same mistakes over and over and saying "this one's on me"? That's not accountability, either.

 

[fatboyj711]

McCarthy isn't about to admit fault on anything. He could easily say "this one's on me." But he won't. Ever.

I agree. During his post game interview, he essentially threw Bostick under the bus which was disappointing.

 

[Sabertooth]

McCarthy isn't about to admit fault on anything. He could easily say "this one's on me." But he won't. Ever.

You'd rather have Andy Reid, making the same mistakes over and over and saying "this one's on me"? That's not accountability, either.

He's making the mistakes either way.

 

[Sabertooth]

McCarthy isn't about to admit fault on anything. He could easily say "this one's on me." But he won't. Ever.

I agree. During his post game interview, he essentially threw Bostick under the bus which was disappointing.

McCarthy isn't about to admit fault on anything. He could easily say "this one's on me." But he won't. Ever.

I agree. During his post game interview, he essentially threw Bostick under the bus which was disappointing.

I was hoping he'd just release Bostic on the spot to be honest. Nothing good is every coming from him.

 

[sho nuff]

Of course he is giving the blah response and saying he had a target when up 16-0 in the half...isnt' that they why worked so much on the Oline and draft and developed Lacy and kept Starks around? To grind clock and let Rodgers get some first downs?

Was it conservative? Sure...was it bad conservative...I just don't think so.

You get down to about 4 minutes to go up by 12 on the road against Seattle...hard to complain too much about being too conservative when Seattle at that point still needed a ton to go their way...and it happened and they took advantage of it...no doubt.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

McCarthy isn't about to admit fault on anything. He could easily say "this one's on me." But he won't. Ever.

One of the things I've always liked about McCarthy is his complete disdain for the media. He could not possibly care less what people outside the organization think about him. I'm very comfortable in the knowledge that McCarthy feels zero accountability to you or any other fan.

 

[Braktastic]

Mike McCarthy is the new John Fox. It's a good thing he's not accountable to John Elway.

Lost to New York Giants in NFC Championship Game

Lost to Arizona Cardinals in NFC Wild-Card Game
Super Bowl XLV Champions
Lost to New York Giants in NFC Divisional Game
Lost to San Francisco 49ers in NFC Divisional Game
Lost to San Francisco 49ers in NFC Wild-Card Game
Lost to Seattle Seahawks in NFC Championship Game

I wonder how long the underlined gets the bolded overlooked.

 

[CalBear]

Mike McCarthy is the new John Fox. It's a good thing he's not accountable to John Elway.

Lost to New York Giants in NFC Championship Game

Lost to Arizona Cardinals in NFC Wild-Card Game
Super Bowl XLV Champions
Lost to New York Giants in NFC Divisional Game
Lost to San Francisco 49ers in NFC Divisional Game
Lost to San Francisco 49ers in NFC Wild-Card Game
Lost to Seattle Seahawks in NFC Championship Game

I wonder how long the underlined gets the bolded overlooked.

Are you seriously suggesting that record suggests someone who's not doing well? How many teams have done better than go to the playoffs the last six years in a row, going to two conference championship games and winning a Super Bowl?

To save you the trouble of looking it up, the answer is "none." The Pats have had similar results but haven't won a Super Bowl (yet).

 

[fantasycurse42]

Spare me the how good he is doing talk, that's nonsense... He has the best QB in the NFL right now, and personally I don't think Brady, Manning, Luck, or whomever you want to put at number two is even within seeing distance of Rodgers. That offense should be putting up 2007 Patriots of Greatest Show on Turf numbers every year while Rodgers is healthy. When you have the best QB, you win games. I could head coach this team to 8-8 with Gordan Gecko and Bob Magaw as my OC and DC.

If he was fired by GB and the 49ers hired him, I wouldn't be excited about the hire.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Mike McCarthy is the new John Fox. It's a good thing he's not accountable to John Elway.

Lost to New York Giants in NFC Championship Game

Lost to Arizona Cardinals in NFC Wild-Card Game
Super Bowl XLV Champions
Lost to New York Giants in NFC Divisional Game
Lost to San Francisco 49ers in NFC Divisional Game
Lost to San Francisco 49ers in NFC Wild-Card Game
Lost to Seattle Seahawks in NFC Championship Game

I wonder how long the underlined gets the bolded overlooked.

That's only going to work for so long. Getting knocked out of the playoffs year after year is going to get you fired at some point, right? And on top of that they're getting knocked out in EPIC fashion, which makes it even worse.

 

[Genester]

There's no one to replace McCarthy even if they fired him. Jack Del Rio got a HC gig again. Slim pickings. They are better off with McCarthy and hopefully he learned a lesson.

This is a valid point - there is no better alternative, unless they could entice a Cowher / Gruden type, which they should try, given the very real chance of winning a championship.

Some coaches just strike me as if the team is winning in spite of them. McCarthy and John Fox are the best examples I can cite. The opposite was on display in the National championship game - both the Oregon coach and Urban Meyer for me exemplify maximizing your team's chances to win. Belichek is the obvious pro example - he isn't playing for public opinion or not being fired, he's playing to win.

 

[Genester]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

You liked the decision to kick that first FG? Every ham 'n egger in the game thread knew it would come back to haunt them. It's astonishing that the HC is the only one who didn't see it.

I didn't have a problem with it. In a low scoring game you take the points.

I think you take the play that maximizes your chances of winning. It's been talked a million times - that play in these circumstances is not a FG.

 

[sho nuff]

His game plan had his team up 12 points, on the road in Seattle against the best D in the league...with 4 minutes to go and his opponent having 1 timeout.

A lot of hindsight and couch coaching going on here.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Mike McCarthy is the new John Fox. It's a good thing he's not accountable to John Elway.

Lost to New York Giants in NFC Championship Game

Lost to Arizona Cardinals in NFC Wild-Card Game
Super Bowl XLV Champions
Lost to New York Giants in NFC Divisional Game
Lost to San Francisco 49ers in NFC Divisional Game
Lost to San Francisco 49ers in NFC Wild-Card Game
Lost to Seattle Seahawks in NFC Championship Game

I wonder how long the underlined gets the bolded overlooked.

Are you seriously suggesting that record suggests someone who's not doing well? How many teams have done better than go to the playoffs the last six years in a row, going to two conference championship games and winning a Super Bowl?

To save you the trouble of looking it up, the answer is "none." The Pats have had similar results but haven't won a Super Bowl (yet).

How many teams have Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady? These guys are worth 1000 Mike McCarthys.

 

[sho nuff]

Mike McCarthy is the new John Fox. It's a good thing he's not accountable to John Elway.

Lost to New York Giants in NFC Championship Game

Lost to Arizona Cardinals in NFC Wild-Card Game
Super Bowl XLV Champions
Lost to New York Giants in NFC Divisional Game
Lost to San Francisco 49ers in NFC Divisional Game
Lost to San Francisco 49ers in NFC Wild-Card Game
Lost to Seattle Seahawks in NFC Championship Game

I wonder how long the underlined gets the bolded overlooked.

Are you seriously suggesting that record suggests someone who's not doing well? How many teams have done better than go to the playoffs the last six years in a row, going to two conference championship games and winning a Super Bowl?

To save you the trouble of looking it up, the answer is "none." The Pats have had similar results but haven't won a Super Bowl (yet).

How many teams have Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady? These guys are worth 1000 Mike McCarthys.

I think a lot of you are discounting what McCarthy has done to work with Rodgers early on...and what BB has done for Brady's career too.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

His game plan had his team up 12 points, on the road in Seattle against the best D in the league...with 4 minutes to go and his opponent having 1 timeout.

A lot of hindsight and couch coaching going on here.

The 5 turnovers (at least 3 of which had absolutely zero to do with scheme) got him that 12 point lead.

"His game plan" left at least 4 points on the field in the first half (maybe more), and cost them a key stop on a 3rd and 19 when he only rushed 3. Change either of those and that onside kick means nothing.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

His game plan had his team up 12 points, on the road in Seattle against the best D in the league...with 4 minutes to go and his opponent having 1 timeout.

A lot of hindsight and couch coaching going on here.

The 5 turnovers (at least 3 of which had absolutely zero to do with scheme) got him that 12 point lead.

"His game plan" left at least 4 points on the field in the first half (maybe more), and cost them a key stop on a 3rd and 19 when he only rushed 3. Change either of those and that onside kick means nothing.

This.

Like I said earlier. McCarthy is a very good coach that coached a bad game. It happens.

 

[Sabertooth]

And stated he had no regrets about the play calling. Nice to know he feels he is infallible. What an arrogant coach.

 

[The Kerminator]

His game plan had his team up 12 points, on the road in Seattle against the best D in the league...with 4 minutes to go and his opponent having 1 timeout.

A lot of hindsight and couch coaching going on here.

The 5 turnovers (at least 3 of which had absolutely zero to do with scheme) got him that 12 point lead.

"His game plan" left at least 4 points on the field in the first half (maybe more), and cost them a key stop on a 3rd and 19 when he only rushed 3. Change either of those and that onside kick means nothing.

How so? Didn't his scheme put the players in that position?

 

[The Kerminator]

And stated he had no regrets about the play calling. Nice to know he feels he is infallible. What an arrogant coach.

I have no regrets about his play calling. He called a good game that got them a lead in perhaps the toughest stadium to play in against perhaps an all-time great defense.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

His game plan had his team up 12 points, on the road in Seattle against the best D in the league...with 4 minutes to go and his opponent having 1 timeout.

A lot of hindsight and couch coaching going on here.

The 5 turnovers (at least 3 of which had absolutely zero to do with scheme) got him that 12 point lead."His game plan" left at least 4 points on the field in the first half (maybe more), and cost them a key stop on a 3rd and 19 when he only rushed 3. Change either of those and that onside kick means nothing.

How so? Didn't his scheme put the players in that position?

In position for what? To catch popup deflections off of Kearse's hands? Bravo, coach.

 

[Pipes]

And stated he had no regrets about the play calling. Nice to know he feels he is infallible. What an arrogant coach.

I have no regrets about his play calling. He called a good game that got them a lead in perhaps the toughest stadium to play in against perhaps an all-time great defense.

As a Packer fan I'm absolutely stunned anyone is content with the game he called yesterday. Like Carter said he's a good coach who had a bad day...it happens just sucked it happened in the NFC championship game. He certainly wasn't the only one who had a bad day.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Mike McCarthy is the new John Fox. It's a good thing he's not accountable to John Elway.

Lost to New York Giants in NFC Championship Game

Lost to Arizona Cardinals in NFC Wild-Card Game

Super Bowl XLV Champions

Lost to New York Giants in NFC Divisional Game

Lost to San Francisco 49ers in NFC Divisional Game

Lost to San Francisco 49ers in NFC Wild-Card Game

Lost to Seattle Seahawks in NFC Championship Game

I wonder how long the underlined gets the bolded overlooked.

Are you seriously suggesting that record suggests someone who's not doing well? How many teams have done better than go to the playoffs the last six years in a row, going to two conference championship games and winning a Super Bowl?

To save you the trouble of looking it up, the answer is "none." The Pats have had similar results but haven't won a Super Bowl (yet).

How many teams have Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady? These guys are worth 1000 Mike McCarthys.

Packer fans understand what it means to have a good QB. We had several years of 9-7, 8-8 and worse with Favre under Holmgren, Rhodes and Sherman. The fact that you can list so many playoff losses (even while not listing any wins) is itself a sign of success. Every season, 11 teams end with a loss and 20 more don't even make the playoffs. Four straight NFC North champs, 5 of the last 8 plus two wild cards, including a Super Bowl win as a wildcard. Gruden or Cowher? That is laughable. Green Bay management will never hire a cheerleader/media darling coach.

 

[CalBear]

His game plan had his team up 12 points, on the road in Seattle against the best D in the league...with 4 minutes to go and his opponent having 1 timeout.

A lot of hindsight and couch coaching going on here.

The 5 turnovers (at least 3 of which had absolutely zero to do with scheme) got him that 12 point lead.

"His game plan" left at least 4 points on the field in the first half (maybe more), and cost them a key stop on a 3rd and 19 when he only rushed 3. Change either of those and that onside kick means nothing.

Looking at the result of one play and then blaming the coach for only rushing three is result merchanting. What if he'd only rushed three on the last play of the game? There'd have been safety help on the long throw. Calls don't always work out, but there's nothing inherently wrong with rushing 3 or rushing 7. Belichick rushed 3 in long-down situations all game this weekend, does he suck?

 

[CletiusMaximus]

His game plan had his team up 12 points, on the road in Seattle against the best D in the league...with 4 minutes to go and his opponent having 1 timeout.

A lot of hindsight and couch coaching going on here.

The 5 turnovers (at least 3 of which had absolutely zero to do with scheme) got him that 12 point lead."His game plan" left at least 4 points on the field in the first half (maybe more), and cost them a key stop on a 3rd and 19 when he only rushed 3. Change either of those and that onside kick means nothing.

How so? Didn't his scheme put the players in that position?

In position for what? To catch popup deflections off of Kearse's hands? Bravo, coach.

Its false to say the turnovers had "zero to do with scheme" with the Packers playing so aggressively in the first 3 quarters. Turnovers are the natural result of putting 8-9 on the line and pressing. There is always some luck involved, but the difference between game 1 and yesterday was a completely different look on defense.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I don't blame the coach. He put his team in an excellent position to win. Not his fault his team couldn't execute at a junior high level in the last couple minutes.

Wait. What?

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

You liked the decision to kick that first FG? Every ham 'n egger in the game thread knew it would come back to haunt them. It's astonishing that the HC is the only one who didn't see it.

I didn't have a problem with it. In a low scoring game you take the points.

I think you take the play that maximizes your chances of winning. It's been talked a million times - that play in these circumstances is not a FG.

I don't understand making that same decision twice though. If you play conservative the first time and get the FG, then go for the TD the second time.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I don't blame the coach. He put his team in an excellent position to win. Not his fault his team couldn't execute at a junior high level in the last couple minutes.

Wait. What?

Pretty easy to understand. His team was up by 12 with four minutes left. They had a 99% chance of winning at that point. He doesn't catch the ball in an onside kick attempt or defend a Hail Mary 2 point conversion.

 

[Sabertooth]

And stated he had no regrets about the play calling. Nice to know he feels he is infallible. What an arrogant coach.

I have no regrets about his play calling. He called a good game that got them a lead in perhaps the toughest stadium to play in against perhaps an all-time great defense.

Yeah, I guess if getting a lead is your goal then he's A-ok.

I read that at one point the team was a statistical 99.9% lock to win. But then he pissed it all away. Hum de dum.

 

[Sabertooth]

Can't wait to tune into the Mike McCarthy show tomorrow night. I wonder who his special guest will be.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

His game plan had his team up 12 points, on the road in Seattle against the best D in the league...with 4 minutes to go and his opponent having 1 timeout.

A lot of hindsight and couch coaching going on here.

The 5 turnovers (at least 3 of which had absolutely zero to do with scheme) got him that 12 point lead."His game plan" left at least 4 points on the field in the first half (maybe more), and cost them a key stop on a 3rd and 19 when he only rushed 3. Change either of those and that onside kick means nothing.

How so? Didn't his scheme put the players in that position?

In position for what? To catch popup deflections off of Kearse's hands? Bravo, coach.

Its false to say the turnovers had "zero to do with scheme" with the Packers playing so aggressively in the first 3 quarters. Turnovers are the natural result of putting 8-9 on the line and pressing. There is always some luck involved, but the difference between game 1 and yesterday was a completely different look on defense.

Not "the turnovers" - those turnovers. Specifically the 2 Kearse deflections (and to a slightly lesser degree the Baldwin kick return fumble where he ran into his own guy, though I can't say whether GB would've recovered the fumble anyway). We'll just have to vary about where on the "luck vs scheme" spectrum those three plays lie. I'm in the range of "mostly" to "entirely" luck.

You want to give McCarthy a cookie for other 2? I got no problem with that.

 

[TDorBust]

Keep McCarthy but if you get ride of him the Packers better damn well not hire a previous head coach. The only fing HC I would want is Bellichek otherwise go with a no name up and comer who is hopefully the next big thing.

Curly, Vince, Mike, and now Mike have all been first time head coaches in the pros at GB and I want to keep it that way. Also look a Harbaugh he just went to 3 straight NFC championships and was canned because of non game day issues.