Mike McCarthy will be a flop as Packers HC (1 Viewer)

[Raider Nation]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

You liked the decision to kick that first FG? Every ham 'n egger in the game thread knew it would come back to haunt them. It's astonishing that the HC is the only one who didn't see it.

 

[The Kerminator]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

You liked the decision to kick that first FG? Every ham 'n egger in the game thread knew it would come back to haunt them. It's astonishing that the HC is the only one who didn't see it.

I didn't have a problem with it. In a low scoring game you take the points.

 

[Raider Nation]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

You liked the decision to kick that first FG? Every ham 'n egger in the game thread knew it would come back to haunt them. It's astonishing that the HC is the only one who didn't see it.

I didn't have a problem with it. In a low scoring game you take the points.

Weren't there 50 points?

 

[lod01]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

You liked the decision to kick that first FG? Every ham 'n egger in the game thread knew it would come back to haunt them. It's astonishing that the HC is the only one who didn't see it.

I didn't have a problem with it. In a low scoring game you take the points.

You play to win the game.

 

[The Kerminator]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

You liked the decision to kick that first FG? Every ham 'n egger in the game thread knew it would come back to haunt them. It's astonishing that the HC is the only one who didn't see it.

I didn't have a problem with it. In a low scoring game you take the points.

Weren't there 50 points?

Did you figure 50 points before the game?

 

[Raider Nation]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

You liked the decision to kick that first FG? Every ham 'n egger in the game thread knew it would come back to haunt them. It's astonishing that the HC is the only one who didn't see it.

I didn't have a problem with it. In a low scoring game you take the points.

Weren't there 50 points?

Did you figure 50 points before the game?

The total in Vegas was 48. Why would 50 points be unreasonable to expect?

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Anyone defending McCarthy in this game is fooling themselves. He is a great coach, but today he had a few bad decisions that ultimately cost his team the win. Great coaches are just like great players they have bad games. Today McCarthy had a bad game. Simple as that.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

You liked the decision to kick that first FG? Every ham 'n egger in the game thread knew it would come back to haunt them. It's astonishing that the HC is the only one who didn't see it.

I didn't have a problem with it. In a low scoring game you take the points.

Weren't there 50 points?

Did you figure 50 points before the game?

The total in Vegas was 48. Why would 50 points be unreasonable to expect?

I bet you hammered the under.

 

[Raider Nation]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

You liked the decision to kick that first FG? Every ham 'n egger in the game thread knew it would come back to haunt them. It's astonishing that the HC is the only one who didn't see it.

I didn't have a problem with it. In a low scoring game you take the points.

Weren't there 50 points?

Did you figure 50 points before the game?

The total in Vegas was 48. Why would 50 points be unreasonable to expect?

I bet you hammered the under.

Teased it, since you asked.

 

[Popinski]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

I wasn't a fan of some of his decisions (not going for it on 4th down, calling TO with 19 seconds left in regulation, etc). But I don't have any issues with the playcalling in the 4th quarter. The Packers had just taken a chunk of time off the clock early in the fourth with a drive largely based on their run game, which was pretty good all game.

Their next drive they ran the first 2 plays, then Rodgers threw on 3rd and 4 which was dropped by Quarless.

The drive after that (after the interception), they ran it twice for negative yards, and on 3rd and 16 elected to run again. I can see them going for it if it was 3rd and short, but up two scores late in the game, I had no problem with them taking 30 seconds off the clock.

 

[Popinski]

With ~4:00 left, the GB defender went to the ground after picking off Wilson. I was in the other room ... did he have a chance to take it the distance?

(This is not on McCarthy one way or the other -- just wondering).

Didn't get a good angle, but it seemed he had at least some room to run. I think there was one player in his path 10 yards or so away, but who knows if he would have made the tackle. I get being sure that you don't fumble, but the game wasn't in hand yet, and if you have yards in front of you, you take it.

 

[Da Guru]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

You liked the decision to kick that first FG? Every ham 'n egger in the game thread knew it would come back to haunt them. It's astonishing that the HC is the only one who didn't see it.

My exact words a the time is that will come back to haunt them. There were many other things..dropped pass, miracle 2 point conversion, onside kick blunder. Many thing led to the loss but the not scoring a TD was instrumental.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

Wait. What?

 

[Pipes]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

Completely disagree. 22 points off 5 turnovers doesn't cut it. Way too conservative especially in the 4th quarter. Can they stop giving carries to John Kuhn? Every Packer fan seems to love guy and I don't get it. I'd rather pound the ball wi Lacy than have Kuhn take carries from a legit RB.

 

[Pipes]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

Wait. What?

Yeah that's a terrible post.

 

[Pipes]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

I wasn't a fan of some of his decisions (not going for it on 4th down, calling TO with 19 seconds left in regulation, etc). But I don't have any issues with the playcalling in the 4th quarter. The Packers had just taken a chunk of time off the clock early in the fourth with a drive largely based on their run game, which was pretty good all game.

Their next drive they ran the first 2 plays, then Rodgers threw on 3rd and 4 which was dropped by Quarless.

The drive after that (after the interception), they ran it twice for negative yards, and on 3rd and 16 elected to run again. I can see them going for it if it was 3rd and short, but up two scores late in the game, I had no problem with them taking 30 seconds off the clock.

Not throwing 1 pass at a 1 armed Sherman was a colossal blunder. Rodgers is the MVP of the league put the game in his hands especially when Seattle was stacking the box like they were on that 2nd to last drive.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Hell, two calls that didn't end up mattering were terrible. Not taking a TO on the play before Rodgers limped for the first down wasted 15-20 seconds and then taking the TO at 19 seconds instead of either making it the last play of regulation or making Carroll take his last TO were just terrible. How the hell are these guys so bad at time management? Is Andy Reid teaching them all the best strategy?

 

[General Tso]

With ~4:00 left, the GB defender went to the ground after picking off Wilson. I was in the other room ... did he have a chance to take it the distance?

(This is not on McCarthy one way or the other -- just wondering).

Didn't get a good angle, but it seemed he had at least some room to run. I think there was one player in his path 10 yards or so away, but who knows if he would have made the tackle. I get being sure that you don't fumble, but the game wasn't in hand yet, and if you have yards in front of you, you take it.

At the time the interception was made, Green Bay's win probability was 99.9%. That's right. 999 out of 1,000 times that game is won.

 

[Faust]

Mike McCarthy: I’m not questioning my play calling

 

[Faust]

The Seahawks were only able to come back because of Mike McCarthy's horrendous coaching decisions

 

[Faust]

Mike McCarthy, Packers' O not aggressive enough

 

[cvnpoka]

Hell, two calls that didn't end up mattering were terrible. Not taking a TO on the play before Rodgers limped for the first down wasted 15-20 seconds and then taking the TO at 19 seconds instead of either making it the last play of regulation or making Carroll take his last TO were just terrible. How the hell are these guys so bad at time management? Is Andy Reid teaching them all the best strategy?

right. with 3 tos left, not calling the timeout with 45s left near midfield was unreal lol bad. its just typical mccarthy. hes worse than reid. packers fans are delusional and the rest of the world doesnt see enough of the team. its amazing that this game wasnt even in his top 5 worst for the year.

 

[grateful zed]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

You liked the decision to kick that first FG? Every ham 'n egger in the game thread knew it would come back to haunt them. It's astonishing that the HC is the only one who didn't see it.

I didn't have a problem with it. In a low scoring game you take the points.

Weren't there 50 points?

packers needed to come away with points on that drive. i like the call, then.

 

[sho nuff]

Anyone defending McCarthy in this game is fooling themselves. He is a great coach, but today he had a few bad decisions that ultimately cost his team the win. Great coaches are just like great players they have bad games. Today McCarthy had a bad game. Simple as that.

He had a bad 5 minutes.

Sure...going for the FG early is bad...but so many other things have to happen to lose.

Knock down the 2 point conversion (not McCarthy)...Bostick just block or even just catch that ball...

They were not guaranteed to score a TD had they gone for it on the first time down there...then got a fumble on the kickoff anyway.

There were 5 minutes of completely crappy play (in addition to a ridiculous 3 man rush on a 3rd and long that should have been third and even longer...still want an explanation on how that wasn't 15 extra yards...don't take that as blaming the refis...I thought it was a very well officiated game...just never have seen that).

 

[Pipes]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

You liked the decision to kick that first FG? Every ham 'n egger in the game thread knew it would come back to haunt them. It's astonishing that the HC is the only one who didn't see it.

I didn't have a problem with it. In a low scoring game you take the points.

Weren't there 50 points?

packers needed to come away with points on that drive. i like the call, then.

I didn't mind the 1st quarter FGs...hated some of the play calls like giving the ball to Kuhn. The Packers haven't been great in short yardage situations all year. I just hated the conservative play calling especially in the 4 quarter. Sherman's out there with 1 arm and they don't challenge him once. Earl Thomas missed an entire series early in the game and they don't throw it downfield once that series. The Seahawks had 5 turnovers and the Pack could only muster 22 points and only 6 points in the 2nd half. That's terrible.

 

[sho nuff]

Hell, two calls that didn't end up mattering were terrible. Not taking a TO on the play before Rodgers limped for the first down wasted 15-20 seconds and then taking the TO at 19 seconds instead of either making it the last play of regulation or making Carroll take his last TO were just terrible. How the hell are these guys so bad at time management? Is Andy Reid teaching them all the best strategy?

right. with 3 tos left, not calling the timeout with 45s left near midfield was unreal lol bad. its just typical mccarthy. hes worse than reid. packers fans are delusional and the rest of the world doesnt see enough of the team. its amazing that this game wasnt even in his top 5 worst for the year.

He is actually usually damn good with time management...so not sure how Packer fans are delusional thinking he is not as bad as Reid in such a situation.

Or how that not using a To there was typical McCarthy.

He would last all of 10 seconds on the open market if GB let him go.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

You liked the decision to kick that first FG? Every ham 'n egger in the game thread knew it would come back to haunt them. It's astonishing that the HC is the only one who didn't see it.

I didn't like it, but I'm a ham n egger myself. The Packers had a 12 point lead and the ball with a first down with 5 minutes to play. An 8 pt road dog. The gameplan was obviously excellent, which is par for Mac over the past 5-6 years. How many nfl teams would insta-fire their head coach today if MacCarthy were available? Probably somewhere between 25-30.

 

[Pipes]

Hell, two calls that didn't end up mattering were terrible. Not taking a TO on the play before Rodgers limped for the first down wasted 15-20 seconds and then taking the TO at 19 seconds instead of either making it the last play of regulation or making Carroll take his last TO were just terrible. How the hell are these guys so bad at time management? Is Andy Reid teaching them all the best strategy?

right. with 3 tos left, not calling the timeout with 45s left near midfield was unreal lol bad. its just typical mccarthy. hes worse than reid. packers fans are delusional and the rest of the world doesnt see enough of the team. its amazing that this game wasnt even in his top 5 worst for the year.

He is actually usually damn good with time management...so not sure how Packer fans are delusional thinking he is not as bad as Reid in such a situation.

Or how that not using a To there was typical McCarthy.

He would last all of 10 seconds on the open market if GB let him go.

I'm not advocating firing McCarthy in any way but I'm of the opinion he didn't have a very good day.

 

[Pipes]

Great gameplan today again by McCarthy. Players earned this loss almost 100% for me. Criticicizing the coaching is great hindsight, but the fact is the Packer coaches did a great job today.

You liked the decision to kick that first FG? Every ham 'n egger in the game thread knew it would come back to haunt them. It's astonishing that the HC is the only one who didn't see it.

I didn't like it, but I'm a ham n egger myself. The Packers had a 12 point lead and the ball with a first down with 5 minutes to play. An 8 pt road dog. The gameplan was obviously excellent, which is par for Mac over the past 5-6 years. How many nfl teams would insta-fire their head coach today if MacCarthy were available? Probably somewhere between 25-30.

5 turnovers had a lot more to do with that than the gameplan. McCarthy and the entire offense including Rodgers were subpar today. Though the oline played pretty good in the first half.

 

[Raider Nation]

Someone please list the 25-30 teams which would fire their coach immediately if McCarthy was available.

 

[Raider Nation]

How do you figure he'd fare if saddled with Geno Smith or E.J. Manuel instead of Favre and Rodgers?

 

[cvnpoka]

Hell, two calls that didn't end up mattering were terrible. Not taking a TO on the play before Rodgers limped for the first down wasted 15-20 seconds and then taking the TO at 19 seconds instead of either making it the last play of regulation or making Carroll take his last TO were just terrible. How the hell are these guys so bad at time management? Is Andy Reid teaching them all the best strategy?

right. with 3 tos left, not calling the timeout with 45s left near midfield was unreal lol bad. its just typical mccarthy. hes worse than reid. packers fans are delusional and the rest of the world doesnt see enough of the team. its amazing that this game wasnt even in his top 5 worst for the year.

He is actually usually damn good with time management...so not sure how Packer fans are delusional thinking he is not as bad as Reid in such a situation.

Or how that not using a To there was typical McCarthy.

He would last all of 10 seconds on the open market if GB let him go.

ya and kubiak and fox didnt last long on the market either.

i dunno if there is some stockholm syndrome going on or what. but its really unfortunate that aaron rodgers, a clear top 5 of all time qb, will only finish with 1 super bowl. and despite being surrounded by some excellent talent. its bc of mccarthy.

 

[Pipes]

Hell, two calls that didn't end up mattering were terrible. Not taking a TO on the play before Rodgers limped for the first down wasted 15-20 seconds and then taking the TO at 19 seconds instead of either making it the last play of regulation or making Carroll take his last TO were just terrible. How the hell are these guys so bad at time management? Is Andy Reid teaching them all the best strategy?

right. with 3 tos left, not calling the timeout with 45s left near midfield was unreal lol bad. its just typical mccarthy. hes worse than reid. packers fans are delusional and the rest of the world doesnt see enough of the team. its amazing that this game wasnt even in his top 5 worst for the year.

He is actually usually damn good with time management...so not sure how Packer fans are delusional thinking he is not as bad as Reid in such a situation.

Or how that not using a To there was typical McCarthy.

He would last all of 10 seconds on the open market if GB let him go.

ya and kubiak and fox didnt last long on the market either.

i dunno if there is some stockholm syndrome going on or what. but its really unfortunate that aaron rodgers, a clear top 5 of all time qb, will only finish with 1 super bowl. and despite being surrounded by some excellent talent. its bc of mccarthy.

Let's not get carried away here. Rodgers still has a number of prime years left.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

A lot of people are assuming if GB had gone for it early on that they were going to score TD's. At first glance I thought he was being overly cautious, but I bet none of the GB faithful were complaining when the score was 19-7 with 3 minutes left.

Hindsite is 20-20, but I will bet you were happy about the decisions with 3-1/2 minutes to go.

 

[Pipes]

A lot of people are assuming if GB had gone for it early on that they were going to score TD's. At first glance I thought he was being overly cautious, but I bet none of the GB faithful were complaining when the score was 19-7 with 3 minutes left.

Hindsite is 20-20, but I will bet you were happy about the decisions with 3-1/2 minutes to go.

I wasn't complaining but was very nervous as GB failed to put the Hawks away. When you have the number 1 scoring offense in the NFL and your defense/special teams gets 5 turnovers many in great field position you have to put more points on the board.

 

[sho nuff]

Hell, two calls that didn't end up mattering were terrible. Not taking a TO on the play before Rodgers limped for the first down wasted 15-20 seconds and then taking the TO at 19 seconds instead of either making it the last play of regulation or making Carroll take his last TO were just terrible. How the hell are these guys so bad at time management? Is Andy Reid teaching them all the best strategy?

right. with 3 tos left, not calling the timeout with 45s left near midfield was unreal lol bad. its just typical mccarthy. hes worse than reid. packers fans are delusional and the rest of the world doesnt see enough of the team. its amazing that this game wasnt even in his top 5 worst for the year.

He is actually usually damn good with time management...so not sure how Packer fans are delusional thinking he is not as bad as Reid in such a situation.

Or how that not using a To there was typical McCarthy.

He would last all of 10 seconds on the open market if GB let him go.

ya and kubiak and fox didnt last long on the market either.

i dunno if there is some stockholm syndrome going on or what. but its really unfortunate that aaron rodgers, a clear top 5 of all time qb, will only finish with 1 super bowl. and despite being surrounded by some excellent talent. its bc of mccarthy.

McCarthy is a pretty major reason they won that ring and were in the position they were in to be ahead in this game.

 

[sho nuff]

A lot of people are assuming if GB had gone for it early on that they were going to score TD's. At first glance I thought he was being overly cautious, but I bet none of the GB faithful were complaining when the score was 19-7 with 3 minutes left.

Hindsite is 20-20, but I will bet you were happy about the decisions with 3-1/2 minutes to go.

I wasn't complaining but was very nervous as GB failed to put the Hawks away. When you have the number 1 scoring offense in the NFL and your defense/special teams gets 5 turnovers many in great field position you have to put more points on the board.

Agreed.

 

[TDorBust]

Unlike Homer when you lose your not out of the family. I only want Mike and while he makes a couple stupid decisions I am fairly confident unless Belichek is getting fired your not getting a coach even at his level not to mention better.

Look at the 49ers they just fired a 3 time NFC championship game coach this year because of issues outside of Sunday's. I would rather a couple bonehead calls on Sunday instead of a million issues during the week.

 

[TDorBust]

A lot of people are assuming if GB had gone for it early on that they were going to score TD's. At first glance I thought he was being overly cautious, but I bet none of the GB faithful were complaining when the score was 19-7 with 3 minutes left.

Hindsite is 20-20, but I will bet you were happy about the decisions with 3-1/2 minutes to go.

I wasn't complaining but was very nervous as GB failed to put the Hawks away. When you have the number 1 scoring offense in the NFL and your defense/special teams gets 5 turnovers many in great field position you have to put more points on the board.

Agreed.

Packers gave that game back to Seattle and Seattle actually was better off being down as when the Packers were running the offense they were fine. Biggest issue is who expects to mess up the onside kick. You get that your running out the clock completly or down to the point where Seattle gets the ball with less than a min to go likely 80-90 yards.

 

[RBM]

A lot of people are assuming if GB had gone for it early on that they were going to score TD's. At first glance I thought he was being overly cautious, but I bet none of the GB faithful were complaining when the score was 19-7 with 3 minutes left.

Hindsite is 20-20, but I will bet you were happy about the decisions with 3-1/2 minutes to go.

I wasn't complaining but was very nervous as GB failed to put the Hawks away. When you have the number 1 scoring offense in the NFL and your defense/special teams gets 5 turnovers many in great field position you have to put more points on the board.

Not that easy against that D, in that stadium.

 

[General Tso]

I didn't see anything egregiously wrong with McCarthy's coaching today. He got unlucky. Only a miraculous finish loses that game for him - as in 1 in a thousand. He put his team in a position where the only thing that beats them is a miracle, and it happened.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

I didn't see anything egregiously wrong with McCarthy's coaching today. He got unlucky. Only a miraculous finish loses that game for him - as in 1 in a thousand. He put his team in a position where the only thing that beats them is a miracle, and it happened.

I agree.

 

[Raider Nation]

Second guessing a first quarter FG is inanity.

What is this second-guessing you speak of? Check the time stamp. And I wasn't alone.

 

[Cripster]

I really thought the game plan was solid until late when I thought he departed from it. Late in the game, he seemed to want to run three straight times instead of trying to get a first down to melt the clock. There was too much time on the clock to do this in my opinion. You have to recognize the momentum swing and adjust accordingly. He only tested a one-armed Sherman once and that was complete. Really need to have more confidence in your offense there and show some aggression. To me, that was the game to me.

 

[fantasycurse42]

GB was outcoached and it wasn't close.

 

[fantasycurse42]

GB was outcoached and it wasn't close.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I didn't see anything egregiously wrong with McCarthy's coaching today. He got unlucky. Only a miraculous finish loses that game for him - as in 1 in a thousand. He put his team in a position where the only thing that beats them is a miracle, and it happened.

I agree.

Special teams failures aren't 1-1000 for this team. They happen all the time.Having your blocker screw up his assignment on an onside kick....isn't bad luck. It is bad execution. The guy didn't belong on the field for that play if he couldn't execute the only job he was supposed to do. And that is coaching.

 

[Pipes]

I didn't see anything egregiously wrong with McCarthy's coaching today. He got unlucky. Only a miraculous finish loses that game for him - as in 1 in a thousand. He put his team in a position where the only thing that beats them is a miracle, and it happened.

Not to keep harping on this but the defense/special teams generating 5 turnovers is what put them in a position to win not really anything thing McCarthy did. He has the MVP at QB and didn't really attack Seattle's defense at all...especially in the 4th quarter with Sherman out there with 1 arm.

 

[Pipes]

I didn't see anything egregiously wrong with McCarthy's coaching today. He got unlucky. Only a miraculous finish loses that game for him - as in 1 in a thousand. He put his team in a position where the only thing that beats them is a miracle, and it happened.

I agree.

Special teams failures aren't 1-1000 for this team. They happen all the time.Having your blocker screw up his assignment on an onside kick....isn't bad luck. It is bad execution. The guy didn't belong on the field for that play if he couldn't execute the only job he was supposed to do. And that is coaching.

Yep Slocum definitely needs to go.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I didn't see anything egregiously wrong with McCarthy's coaching today. He got unlucky. Only a miraculous finish loses that game for him - as in 1 in a thousand. He put his team in a position where the only thing that beats them is a miracle, and it happened.

Not to keep harping on this but the defense/special teams generating 5 turnovers is what put them in a position to win not really anything thing McCarthy did. He has the MVP at QB and didn't really attack Seattle's defense at all...especially in the 4th quarter with Sherman out there with 1 arm.

Which is exactly what Rodgers alluded to in his post game comments. McCarthy played conservatively - again - and it cost them. Should we and could we have still won? Sure. Did it take fluke plays for us to lose? Sure. But it never should have come to that.