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Most white people are racist, right? (1 Viewer)

Are they?

  • yes

    Votes: 58 41.1%
  • no

    Votes: 83 58.9%

  • Total voters
    141
It's called cognitive learning, not racism. Statistically, you probably had a higher chance witnessing a crime or being part of one in that area of town than what you're used to. To not have your guard up a little and be aware of your surroundings would have been foolish.

Were you proving a point using the bathroom? 20 person line just to ask of they had one? I woul have driven somewhere else where I felt more comfortable.

 
It's called cognitive learning, not racism. Statistically, you probably had a higher chance witnessing a crime or being part of one in that area of town than what you're used to. To not have your guard up a little and be aware of your surroundings would have been foolish.

Were you proving a point using the bathroom? 20 person line just to ask of they had one? I woul have driven somewhere else where I felt more comfortable.
I didn't know the area. I was already out of my car. It wasn't an area with strip malls with McDonalds, Walgreens, Walmart etc. It looked like a former industrial area a bit. Plus I was trying to get home so I didn't want to waste time with another stop.
 
Only those that answered this poll "No" without hesitation are racists. The rest just have racists attitudes embedded in us from our cultural upbringing that we are not always successful at shaking.

 
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avoiding injuries said:
mr roboto said:
Bottomfeeder Sports said:
Only those that answered this poll "No" without hesitation are racists. The rest just have racists attitudes embedded in us from our cultural upbringing that we are not always successful at shaking.
How would you interpret my reaction to the situation at the gas station?
What would you tell your kids to do if they were in your situation?
Damn good question. I'll have to think about it. My kids are girls so I'm going to be far more protective of them than myself in general.
 
mr roboto said:
Bottomfeeder Sports said:
Only those that answered this poll "No" without hesitation are racists. The rest just have racists attitudes embedded in us from our cultural upbringing that we are not always successful at shaking.
How would you interpret my reaction to the situation at the gas station?
How would you have felt at a redneck/hick station? I know I have felt uncomfortable when Cletus and Jim Bob are loitering around the front counter.

 
mr roboto said:
Bottomfeeder Sports said:
Only those that answered this poll "No" without hesitation are racists. The rest just have racists attitudes embedded in us from our cultural upbringing that we are not always successful at shaking.
How would you interpret my reaction to the situation at the gas station?
How would you have felt at a redneck/hick station? I know I have felt uncomfortable when Cletus and Jim Bob are loitering around the front counter.
It's really not about skin color. It's about being brought up by uneducated/ignorant parents and living in that type of community. Rednecks are as scary as thugs and there more likely to cut you up into pieces in their basement...maybe barbecue you a bit.

 
Are Arabs racist? Are blacks racist? Are Asiabs racist? Yes yes yes. It's across all cultures and races.

 
I think all people are prejudiced against those not like themselves, but not all are racist. Racism implies some sort of hate towards other races, or believing in some sort of hierarchy between them.

I think Thunderlips hit the nail on the head earlier.

 
There's a difference between making a racist statement or two (which almost all of us have done) and being racist. There's also a difference between having racist attitudes and acting upon them.

My grandfather was one of the first business executives in the west coast to hire blacks for executive positions. He was written up in Life Magazine in the 1950s and was given a citation by President Eisenhower. His whole life he fought against racism, contributing heavily to the NAACP and being given honorary recognition by them.

But- late in his life when I knew him (late 1970s and early 80s) he complained bitterly to me about how the "schwarzes" never appreciated anything, about how lazy they were and how they destroyed their own neighborhoods. People are complicated.

 
mr roboto said:
I think I may be kinda racist. The following story has caused me to think about this topic pretty deeply. I'm going to be brutally honest, probably get flamed. But I would like to know if this is racist or not.
No you weren't racist. You did get a taste what many black people feel it is like making their way through a white world.

 
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Bottomfeeder Sports said:
Only those that answered this poll "No" without hesitation are racists. The rest just have racists attitudes embedded in us from our cultural upbringing that we are not always successful at shaking.
and the people who voted yes?

 
I'm definitely a classist, but not a racist.

But it just so happens that a much higher percentage of people outside of my race are in the classes I'm classist against.

Does that make me racist too?

 
I'm definitely a classist, but not a racist.

But it just so happens that a much higher percentage of people outside of my race are in the classes I'm classist against.

Does that make me racist too?
what classes are you classist against?

 
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It's a caste system. Instead of a particular dot on someones head I just look for the sticker on a baseball hat or see what kind of shoes they're wearing. I equally dislike all folks I'm better than.

 
I think all people are prejudiced against those not like themselves, but not all are racist. Racism implies some sort of hate towards other races, or believing in some sort of hierarchy between them.

I think Thunderlips hit the nail on the head earlier.
:goodposting:

 
mr roboto said:
I think I may be kinda racist. The following story has caused me to think about this topic pretty deeply. I'm going to be brutally honest, probably get flamed. But I would like to know if this is racist or not.

I was driving from AZ to Chicago, by myself a month ago. I got to St Louis on a Saturday night at about 9pm and decided to just keep on driving, getting home at about 1:30 am. I was low in gas so I looked up the nearest gas station on my phone and got off the freeway in St Louis off of 270 near the river, on the MO side.

I pulled into a small gas station with about 10 pumps and one of those old gas station buildings, very small. I got out and began to pump gas. Soon I noticed that all the other pumps were in use, lots of cars with 20 inch rims, loud music. Everyone else there was black. I looked like the most honky white guy, dark washed jeans, v neck purple t-shirt, sandals and a Titlest golf hat. It seemed like a very busy station, some of the other customers were talking to each other, very festive vibe. White people generally ignore each other in public, but these people at this station all just talked to one another about anything and everything. A guy pulled up to a pump directly across from me riding a 4 wheel ATV, no muffler, wearing Carharts and a white tank top. He hops off the ATV and looks at me and says 'I finally got the thing runnin!' I chuckled and congratulated him on the feat. A big, young lady down the row starts making fun of his ride and a couple young guys join in the ball busting. The ATV guy seemed to take it all in good fun.

I finished pumping the gas and went into the store because I needed to use the bathroom. It was clearly too small to have restrooms in there, but you know some of these older stations have an out building where you need a key to get in. I got in line, there were 15-20 people in line, buying food, smokes, lottery tickets and booze. As I'm standing in this cramped store, the only non-black person there, I started to feel very out of place. I very clearly was not from around there. An old man looked at me and smiled, said 'You passing through?' 'Yes. Driving across the country from the West up to Chicago.' 'Damn son, that's a long drive! You going all the way to Chicago tonight?' 'Trying to, yea.' He wishes me luck.

I started to feel guilty that my first thought upon entering the station was one of discomfort. They all seemed very nice, talking to each other and cracking jokes. Some kids didn't have enough money for the candy they wanted, and the old man pulls out a couple buck and just gives it to them. 2 younger guys were trading stories of the parties they were going to. A couple young ladies were talking about their clothing. Again, this level of random discourse isn't very common among the honky white people I meet in public.

I got up to the counter and the young man behind the counter says 'What can I get for you sir?' I said 'I just bought gas outside but really need a restroom.' He says 'Sorry, we don't have a public bathroom, but if you really have to go, you can use the employee bathroom back in the storage room.' He points to the back, through a door. I said 'Thanks man. I appreciate it.' I walk back there and the door to the bathroom is open. I closed the door and locked it and noticed that the door frame wasn't square and the door sticks a bit when you close it.

I do my business, wash my hands and go to open the door. It won't open. Immediately, I think 'This is a set up.' Then I remembered that the frame wasn't square, pull up on the handle, push hard and the door goes flying open. I stumble forward into the store and everyone is staring at me because it was a pretty abrupt push. I thanked the store clerk again, went back to the car and drive off.

No less than 3 times did I have a thought or feeling that I wasn't in a safe place. But every indication I got from the people themselves was that they were nice, happy, good natured and helpful. Even after all the positive interaction I had with the ATV guy, the old man, and the accommodating clerk, I still freaked out a bit when I thought I was stuck in the bathroom.

When I shared this story with a couple co workers, both white, they all said I wasn't racist, just that whenever you are out of your element, it's ok or even good to be on your guard. Maybe they were trying to make me feel better. Maybe we are all prejudiced. But it really bothered me that I reacted like that.
I think you stole that from a Madea movie.

 
There are all kinds of racists that come in all kinds of colors....much like trash. It doesn't make me a racist if I disagree or dislike you because of your attitude or the way you conduct yourself. Most of that trash always look for the easy way out with the least amount of effort...hence why we have so many moochers in this country. I dislike them for being a low class moocher with no sense of honor, work ethic, morals, or pride for their fellow Americans. It has nothing to do with skin color. I have asian, hispanic, black, & indian friends/associates/Americans...some are trash and some are very cool. I'm close with some, not so much with others. It has everything to do with their choices in life and their attitude and nothing to do with color. I think most people in this country feel the same way and America is one of the most tolerant countries in the world, despite what the media wants you to think.

The only reason racism is ever brought up is because the left and the crooked media (idiots like Chris Matthews) insist on keeping it an issue. They add traction to stories like Zimmeran, while ignoring stories like Lane. The ironic part is that the Democratic party was the party that fought AGAINST the Civil Rights Acts in both the 50s and 60s, supported Jim Crow (democrat),Japanese Internment during WWII, and started the KKK. While the Republican party was founded in opposition to slavery. Fredrick Douglas himself was a Republican, as was MLK senior until Kennedy had his son bailed out of jail in 1960. Clinton's buddy, senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia was a high ranking Klan official for much of his early life and Al Gore himself voted against the 60's Civil right act. 99% of the left would call Rush Limbaugh a racist, yet his producer (James Golden) is black. Heck, since I'm inovled with the Tea Party....I'm an automatic racist....right? The media and left do the same thing with gender. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the today's GOP as politicians from both sides are destroying this country...but if you want to talk racism....you need to talk with Democrats...they know racism better than anyone.

 
There are all kinds of racists that come in all kinds of colors....much like trash. It doesn't make me a racist if I disagree or dislike you because of your attitude or the way you conduct yourself. Most of that trash always look for the easy way out with the least amount of effort...hence why we have so many moochers in this country. I dislike them for being a low class moocher with no sense of honor, work ethic, morals, or pride for their fellow Americans. It has nothing to do with skin color. I have asian, hispanic, black, & indian friends/associates/Americans...some are trash and some are very cool. I'm close with some, not so much with others. It has everything to do with their choices in life and their attitude and nothing to do with color. I think most people in this country feel the same way and America is one of the most tolerant countries in the world, despite what the media wants you to think.

The only reason racism is ever brought up is because the left and the crooked media (idiots like Chris Matthews) insist on keeping it an issue. They add traction to stories like Zimmeran, while ignoring stories like Lane. The ironic part is that the Democratic party was the party that fought AGAINST the Civil Rights Acts in both the 50s and 60s, supported Jim Crow (democrat),Japanese Internment during WWII, and started the KKK. While the Republican party was founded in opposition to slavery. Fredrick Douglas himself was a Republican, as was MLK senior until Kennedy had his son bailed out of jail in 1960. Clinton's buddy, senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia was a high ranking Klan official for much of his early life and Al Gore himself voted against the 60's Civil right act. 99% of the left would call Rush Limbaugh a racist, yet his producer (James Golden) is black. Heck, since I'm inovled with the Tea Party....I'm an automatic racist....right? The media and left do the same thing with gender. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the today's GOP as politicians from both sides are destroying this country...but if you want to talk racism....you need to talk with Democrats...they know racism better than anyone.
That's going to fire them up. :popcorn:

 
mr roboto said:
Bottomfeeder Sports said:
Only those that answered this poll "No" without hesitation are racists. The rest just have racists attitudes embedded in us from our cultural upbringing that we are not always successful at shaking.
How would you interpret my reaction to the situation at the gas station?
How would you have felt at a redneck/hick station? I know I have felt uncomfortable when Cletus and Jim Bob are loitering around the front counter.
It's really not about skin color. It's about being brought up by uneducated/ignorant parents and living in that type of community. Rednecks are as scary as thugs and there more likely to cut you up into pieces in their basement...maybe barbecue you a bit.
:goodposting:

 
There are all kinds of racists that come in all kinds of colors....much like trash. It doesn't make me a racist if I disagree or dislike you because of your attitude or the way you conduct yourself. Most of that trash always look for the easy way out with the least amount of effort...hence why we have so many moochers in this country. I dislike them for being a low class moocher with no sense of honor, work ethic, morals, or pride for their fellow Americans. It has nothing to do with skin color. I have asian, hispanic, black, & indian friends/associates/Americans...some are trash and some are very cool. I'm close with some, not so much with others. It has everything to do with their choices in life and their attitude and nothing to do with color. I think most people in this country feel the same way and America is one of the most tolerant countries in the world, despite what the media wants you to think.

The only reason racism is ever brought up is because the left and the crooked media (idiots like Chris Matthews) insist on keeping it an issue. They add traction to stories like Zimmeran, while ignoring stories like Lane. The ironic part is that the Democratic party was the party that fought AGAINST the Civil Rights Acts in both the 50s and 60s, supported Jim Crow (democrat),Japanese Internment during WWII, and started the KKK. While the Republican party was founded in opposition to slavery. Fredrick Douglas himself was a Republican, as was MLK senior until Kennedy had his son bailed out of jail in 1960. Clinton's buddy, senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia was a high ranking Klan official for much of his early life and Al Gore himself voted against the 60's Civil right act. 99% of the left would call Rush Limbaugh a racist, yet his producer (James Golden) is black. Heck, since I'm inovled with the Tea Party....I'm an automatic racist....right? The media and left do the same thing with gender. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the today's GOP as politicians from both sides are destroying this country...but if you want to talk racism....you need to talk with Democrats...they know racism better than anyone.
The Whig Party was some bad mamma jammas to!

 
mr roboto said:
Bottomfeeder Sports said:
Only those that answered this poll "No" without hesitation are racists. The rest just have racists attitudes embedded in us from our cultural upbringing that we are not always successful at shaking.
How would you interpret my reaction to the situation at the gas station?
How would you have felt at a redneck/hick station? I know I have felt uncomfortable when Cletus and Jim Bob are loitering around the front counter.
It's really not about skin color. It's about being brought up by uneducated/ignorant parents and living in that type of community. Rednecks are as scary as thugs and there more likely to cut you up into pieces in their basement...maybe barbecue you a bit.
:goodposting:
I agree with Finless here. I guess my concern is I may have equated black with a higher likelihood for having been raised like that. Which was directly contradicted by just how nice and kind they were.
 
I voted "no", but what's a racist? To me it's someone who believes that race means that a person will have not just superficial physical traits but also certain personal, physiological, emotional or character traits or other traits, and that actions and even laws should be made towards those persons based on that.

Race is variable, definitions of race are variable, perception of race is variable, actions and beliefs based on race vary. Nearly all of it is irrational.

 
I have experienced racism before from many different types of people.

Grew up in AK, my dad left me in the car to go into the store. A group of AK Natives walked out of a bar and saw me. They started yelling racial slurs at me while they peed on the car.

6th grade I was walking down the street dribbling a basketball. Two white guys were out front drinking beer. They called me "porch monkey" and "great white hope." Kept talking about how I had no business playing basketball.

8th grade I go to a girls house and knock on the door. Dad answers looks at me and says there is no way he is allowing his daughter to date a (racial slur for a Mexican)

Freshmen year of high school a black guy was talking about how he hates white people, I am walking down the hall way to class, no where to go. He says to his buddies watch this I will slap this honkey. ##### slaps me in front of everybody for being white.

I was a police officer in a small town of about 900 people. I pull over a woman for doing 45/25 and give her a citation. Woman freaks out throws the ticket in my face and called me a racist, hillbilly cop from some small hick town and drove off.(She was black)

I could go on and on...but even with these events I don't think I am racist. I can hang out with people of all color even though those events happened to me. On the flip side there are people that I just can't stand and it has to do with their behavior and actions...not skin color.

 
The ironic part is that the Democratic party was the party that fought AGAINST the Civil Rights Acts in both the 50s and 60s, supported Jim Crow (democrat),Japanese Internment during WWII, and started the KKK. While the Republican party was founded in opposition to slavery. Fredrick Douglas himself was a Republican, as was MLK senior until Kennedy had his son bailed out of jail in 1960. Clinton's buddy, senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia was a high ranking Klan official for much of his early life and Al Gore himself voted against the 60's Civil right act. 99% of the left would call Rush Limbaugh a racist, yet his producer (James Golden) is black. Heck, since I'm inovled with the Tea Party....I'm an automatic racist....right? The media and left do the same thing with gender. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the today's GOP as politicians from both sides are destroying this country...but if you want to talk racism....you need to talk with Democrats...they know racism better than anyone.
I think you may have been listening to Sean Hannity a bit too much. It's very misleading. For one thing your facts are wrong (it wasn't Al Gore, it was his dad, just to name one.) But more importantly: LIBERALS have always been for civil rights, whether in the Republican party or the Democratic party. CONSERVATIVES have typically been opposed to the state enforcing civil rights. This factor has been consistent.

 
I experience reverse racism every day living in Memphis. Who gives a ####. Put your big boy panties on, get over yourself, and get on with your life.

 
The ironic part is that the Democratic party was the party that fought AGAINST the Civil Rights Acts in both the 50s and 60s, supported Jim Crow (democrat),Japanese Internment during WWII, and started the KKK. While the Republican party was founded in opposition to slavery. Fredrick Douglas himself was a Republican, as was MLK senior until Kennedy had his son bailed out of jail in 1960. Clinton's buddy, senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia was a high ranking Klan official for much of his early life and Al Gore himself voted against the 60's Civil right act. 99% of the left would call Rush Limbaugh a racist, yet his producer (James Golden) is black. Heck, since I'm inovled with the Tea Party....I'm an automatic racist....right? The media and left do the same thing with gender. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the today's GOP as politicians from both sides are destroying this country...but if you want to talk racism....you need to talk with Democrats...they know racism better than anyone.
I think you may have been listening to Sean Hannity a bit too much. It's very misleading. For one thing your facts are wrong (it wasn't Al Gore, it was his dad, just to name one.) But more importantly: LIBERALS have always been for civil rights, whether in the Republican party or the Democratic party. CONSERVATIVES have typically been opposed to the state enforcing civil rights. This factor has been consistent.
It goes a little deeper than that. There was a time when liberals were against racial classifications altogether, the idea or goal was to promote a color blind society in which there were no rules based on race and in which government had no role in classifying people. So for instance the state in fact did enforce racial laws, that was the problem, and another problem was that the laws varied from state to state. In one state it was the paper bag rule, in another it was the one drop rule, in another it may have been percentages based on how many great-granparents of a given race one had, ie 1/8th black was enough to be considered black, etc. The state controlled and determiend and enforced all that. That was post Civil War, through Plessy vs Ferguson up until World War II and just after; that concept changed. Bu the idea that the state should control, regulate and determine all this has always been a Democratic Party belief.

 
It really depends on where you live. In the city, not so much...most of you herbs in the suburbs, yes.

 
It really depends on where you live. In the city, not so much...most of you herbs in the suburbs, yes.
Apparently NYC is the second most segregated area in the Nation. That shocked me, but when you see the map, it's more clear:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2013/08/segregation_in_america_every_neighborhood_in_the_u_s_mapped_along_racial.html

We might share the same sidewalks, but we hardly share the same homes. Yet, at least.
Not really segregated as quality folks come and go regardless of race, it's more financial (i.e. Manhattan)

 
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It really depends on where you live. In the city, not so much...most of you herbs in the suburbs, yes.
Apparently NYC is the second most segregated area in the Nation. That shocked me, but when you see the map, it's more clear:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2013/08/segregation_in_america_every_neighborhood_in_the_u_s_mapped_along_racial.html

We might share the same sidewalks, but we hardly share the same homes. Yet, at least.
Not really segregated as quality folks come and go regardless of race, it's more financial (i.e. Manhattan)
Check out the maps, it puts things in a perspective that I had never thought of regarding NYC. Take queens - most diverse County in the nation, the world, right? But that's only in the aggregate. Go block by block and its far, far more segregated than you'd think. Latino's live in some areas, blacks in others, whites in others. We all congregate, but it's hard to argue with the picture that these facts suggest.

 
It really depends on where you live. In the city, not so much...most of you herbs in the suburbs, yes.
Apparently NYC is the second most segregated area in the Nation. That shocked me, but when you see the map, it's more clear:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2013/08/segregation_in_america_every_neighborhood_in_the_u_s_mapped_along_racial.html

We might share the same sidewalks, but we hardly share the same homes. Yet, at least.
Not really segregated as quality folks come and go regardless of race, it's more financial (i.e. Manhattan)
Check out the maps, it puts things in a perspective that I had never thought of regarding NYC. Take queens - most diverse County in the nation, the world, right? But that's only in the aggregate. Go block by block and its far, far more segregated than you'd think. Latino's live in some areas, blacks in others, whites in others. We all congregate, but it's hard to argue with the picture that these facts suggest.
I don't spend much time in Queens. I was referencing Manhattan. No real reason to leave that island unless we're talking sport. You have everything you need there.

 
It really depends on where you live. In the city, not so much...most of you herbs in the suburbs, yes.
Apparently NYC is the second most segregated area in the Nation. That shocked me, but when you see the map, it's more clear:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2013/08/segregation_in_america_every_neighborhood_in_the_u_s_mapped_along_racial.html

We might share the same sidewalks, but we hardly share the same homes. Yet, at least.
Not really segregated as quality folks come and go regardless of race, it's more financial (i.e. Manhattan)
Check out the maps, it puts things in a perspective that I had never thought of regarding NYC. Take queens - most diverse County in the nation, the world, right? But that's only in the aggregate. Go block by block and its far, far more segregated than you'd think. Latino's live in some areas, blacks in others, whites in others. We all congregate, but it's hard to argue with the picture that these facts suggest.
I don't spend much time in Queens. I was referencing Manhattan. No real reason to leave that island unless we're talking sport. You have everything you need there.
Manhattan's pretty darn segregated according to the map, fwiw.

And I've actually spent less and less time in BK in the past few years and just stick to Manhattan when I go in, which is usually at least one night a month.

 
Are people still getting worked up over this kind of thing? Everyone has some prejudice one way or the other, against someone. Take me, for example... hired a guy to rehab my dad's house so I could sell it. Guy pulls up in front of the house... nice F-150, maybe a F-250, extended cab... late model.. nice looking ride... and out comes this dreadlocked Rastafarian-looking guy... Normally, that would have been all she wrote... One look at this guy, and I thought, "oh, man... I can see it now... delay after delay after delay because this guy is too busy toking the ganga". The ONLY reason I gave him a chance was because his truck was really sweet... figured he has to have something going for him. You know what? He was hungry and eager... Everything I thought I would have to subcontract out, this guy took care of... painting, flooring, moving furniture, ripping up carpet... tearing down wallpaper.. the list goes on and on.... everything done at a reasonable price, on time, and without any problems. But to look at the guy, you'd think he'd be panhandling somewhere.

 
Are people still getting worked up over this kind of thing? Everyone has some prejudice one way or the other, against someone. Take me, for example... hired a guy to rehab my dad's house so I could sell it. Guy pulls up in front of the house... nice F-150, maybe a F-250, extended cab... late model.. nice looking ride... and out comes this dreadlocked Rastafarian-looking guy... Normally, that would have been all she wrote... One look at this guy, and I thought, "oh, man... I can see it now... delay after delay after delay because this guy is too busy toking the ganga". The ONLY reason I gave him a chance was because his truck was really sweet... figured he has to have something going for him. You know what? He was hungry and eager... Everything I thought I would have to subcontract out, this guy took care of... painting, flooring, moving furniture, ripping up carpet... tearing down wallpaper.. the list goes on and on.... everything done at a reasonable price, on time, and without any problems. But to look at the guy, you'd think he'd be panhandling somewhere.
Well still couldn't same thing have happened with a white guy who looked like a weedhead?

 
Are people still getting worked up over this kind of thing? Everyone has some prejudice one way or the other, against someone. Take me, for example... hired a guy to rehab my dad's house so I could sell it. Guy pulls up in front of the house... nice F-150, maybe a F-250, extended cab... late model.. nice looking ride... and out comes this dreadlocked Rastafarian-looking guy... Normally, that would have been all she wrote... One look at this guy, and I thought, "oh, man... I can see it now... delay after delay after delay because this guy is too busy toking the ganga". The ONLY reason I gave him a chance was because his truck was really sweet... figured he has to have something going for him. You know what? He was hungry and eager... Everything I thought I would have to subcontract out, this guy took care of... painting, flooring, moving furniture, ripping up carpet... tearing down wallpaper.. the list goes on and on.... everything done at a reasonable price, on time, and without any problems. But to look at the guy, you'd think he'd be panhandling somewhere.
Well still couldn't same thing have happened with a white guy who looked like a weedhead?
Yeah, I suppose it could have.

 
mr roboto said:
I think I may be kinda racist. The following story has caused me to think about this topic pretty deeply. I'm going to be brutally honest, probably get flamed. But I would like to know if this is racist or not.

I was driving from AZ to Chicago, by myself a month ago. I got to St Louis on a Saturday night at about 9pm and decided to just keep on driving, getting home at about 1:30 am. I was low in gas so I looked up the nearest gas station on my phone and got off the freeway in St Louis off of 270 near the river, on the MO side.

I pulled into a small gas station with about 10 pumps and one of those old gas station buildings, very small. I got out and began to pump gas. Soon I noticed that all the other pumps were in use, lots of cars with 20 inch rims, loud music. Everyone else there was black. I looked like the most honky white guy, dark washed jeans, v neck purple t-shirt, sandals and a Titlest golf hat. It seemed like a very busy station, some of the other customers were talking to each other, very festive vibe. White people generally ignore each other in public, but these people at this station all just talked to one another about anything and everything. A guy pulled up to a pump directly across from me riding a 4 wheel ATV, no muffler, wearing Carharts and a white tank top. He hops off the ATV and looks at me and says 'I finally got the thing runnin!' I chuckled and congratulated him on the feat. A big, young lady down the row starts making fun of his ride and a couple young guys join in the ball busting. The ATV guy seemed to take it all in good fun.

I finished pumping the gas and went into the store because I needed to use the bathroom. It was clearly too small to have restrooms in there, but you know some of these older stations have an out building where you need a key to get in. I got in line, there were 15-20 people in line, buying food, smokes, lottery tickets and booze. As I'm standing in this cramped store, the only non-black person there, I started to feel very out of place. I very clearly was not from around there. An old man looked at me and smiled, said 'You passing through?' 'Yes. Driving across the country from the West up to Chicago.' 'Damn son, that's a long drive! You going all the way to Chicago tonight?' 'Trying to, yea.' He wishes me luck.

I started to feel guilty that my first thought upon entering the station was one of discomfort. They all seemed very nice, talking to each other and cracking jokes. Some kids didn't have enough money for the candy they wanted, and the old man pulls out a couple buck and just gives it to them. 2 younger guys were trading stories of the parties they were going to. A couple young ladies were talking about their clothing. Again, this level of random discourse isn't very common among the honky white people I meet in public.

I got up to the counter and the young man behind the counter says 'What can I get for you sir?' I said 'I just bought gas outside but really need a restroom.' He says 'Sorry, we don't have a public bathroom, but if you really have to go, you can use the employee bathroom back in the storage room.' He points to the back, through a door. I said 'Thanks man. I appreciate it.' I walk back there and the door to the bathroom is open. I closed the door and locked it and noticed that the door frame wasn't square and the door sticks a bit when you close it.

I do my business, wash my hands and go to open the door. It won't open. Immediately, I think 'This is a set up.' Then I remembered that the frame wasn't square, pull up on the handle, push hard and the door goes flying open. I stumble forward into the store and everyone is staring at me because it was a pretty abrupt push. I thanked the store clerk again, went back to the car and drive off.

No less than 3 times did I have a thought or feeling that I wasn't in a safe place. But every indication I got from the people themselves was that they were nice, happy, good natured and helpful. Even after all the positive interaction I had with the ATV guy, the old man, and the accommodating clerk, I still freaked out a bit when I thought I was stuck in the bathroom.

When I shared this story with a couple co workers, both white, they all said I wasn't racist, just that whenever you are out of your element, it's ok or even good to be on your guard. Maybe they were trying to make me feel better. Maybe we are all prejudiced. But it really bothered me that I reacted like that.
Now imagine the gas station clerk was black.

 
We all understand our own cultures better than other cultures, and prejudge based on that comprehension. Personally, I don't particularly like southerners, and a lot of that has to do with my stereotyping southerners as racist. I think Irish people are a lot like me (Italian family) but more violent and less appreciative of nicer things. I think Polish people tend to be slutty and bigoted (I KNOW - irony, right)? But none of that is "racist" because their skin color is the same as mine.

I believe that cultural prejudices are interesting and unless they truly color your ideology to the point where your behavior is affected, it's not a big deal. And I've heard rednecks talk about Italians in a culturally biased way that was hurtful as well. It's as racist as my grandma talking about "those people" and in the end ignorance is ignorance. Treat people with dignity and love and cultural differences can be celebrated (and even amusing at times without being offensive).

 

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