My comments about Super Bowl XL (1 Viewer)

[Kosar]

Why not just admit you have some secret "man-love" for Mr. Bill. Or maybe some "championship envy",being a Brown's fan and all.

Whoa, c'mon now. The Browns have 4 NFL Championships.And no, I do not apologize for hijacking this poor excuse of a thread.

The "Browns" moved to Baltimore and became the "Ravens". An expansion team moved into Cleveland and took the "Browns" name,in the same way the Washington Senators left and became the Minnesota Twins,an expansion team came into Washington and took the Senators name,they then ALSO left and became the Texas Rangers. The "Browns" championships are in Baltimore,with MR.Modell. .....and this thread DESERVES to be hijacked!

This couldn't be more incorrect!! I'm assuming you've been a fan since, what, 2000?

 

[3C's]

The funny thing about this thread is he started one titled "My feelings about Super Bowl XL" less than 2 days ago which was pretty quickly locked by Shick! Much more useless drivel.

 

[tommyboy]

I've waited a couple days to actually comment about the major topics stemming from Super Bowl XL. Its been interesting to hear and read everyone discuss this. Now, I'd like to share my point of view.

The NFL has never been about being fair. Sure, there are people who like to pretend everyone plays with honor, but the reality is its not true at all. We have guys like Bill Romanowski who uses steroids and wins three super bowls. Sure, some people whine but in the end he has three rings and that is all anyone is going to care about. I made the comment before about the Rams-Patriots super bowl, where in reality all the Patriots did was take cheap shots all day at the Rams' receivers and Faulk. In the end, no-one cares how underhanded that all was. In the end, all anyone cares about is that the Patriots won. In the end, it was the Rams' fault for not returning the favor and taking cheap shots at Brady.

The NFL has always been about the ends justifying the means. It doesn't matter how you win. It doesn't matter how many steroids your club does, how many cheap shots you take, how unfair the calls are. You know why it doesn't matter? Because in the end, the fans, the media, everyone will sweep it under the rug because when the clock hit triple-zeroes, you had more points than your opponent.

Surely, the Steelers should admit that the refs were the reason that they won Super Bowl XL. So should their fans. It IS unfair, and that is the way the NFL always has been.

Cowher has coached the Steelers for 14 years. He's been to the brink many, many times. Yet HE was always the one getting punked. HE was always the one never doing whatever it takes to WIN. And now there is Cowher, getting HIS unfair advantage and pressing it. It can be argued Cowher should have created his own unfair advantage a long, long time ago. He was too nice. It was too easy for him in the past to get punked and smile.

So get your grubby hands on those ill-gotten gains Cowher. Hold that trophy high. Let everyone else scramble to prostrate themselves at your feet. As he stood there smirking with his prize, I thought maybe he finally gets it, and I gained a little admiration for his willingness to be able to enjoy a win he knows he didn't earn fairly.

Now maybe you see why I have such high standards. Win at all costs. Because no matter how sinister or underhanded a win seems, in the end, everyone will not only give you glory for the dirty deed but anyone who does not will actually be called the classless ones! Now maybe Cowher understands what it takes to win.

And this translates to real life as well. We as Americans used every dirty trick we could to win independence. We used every dirty trick to take the land from the native americans. In the end, some whine, but the end justifies the means. No one will take america from us. No-one will take away rings from guys like Romanowski. No-one will do anything but praise you.

how many Super Bowls have the browns been to?every single steeler fan owns a piece of you, do you realize the power you let us have over you due to your insane jealousy and hatred of the Steelers? We own you and your soul, your very fiber as a human being, we own you.

 

[kupcho1]

I've waited a couple days to actually comment about the major topics stemming from Super Bowl XL.  Its been interesting to hear and read everyone discuss this.  Now, I'd like to share my point of view.

The NFL has never been about being fair.  Sure, there are people who like to pretend everyone plays with honor, but the reality is its not true at all.  We have guys like Bill Romanowski who uses steroids and wins three super bowls.  Sure, some people whine but in the end he has three rings and that is all anyone is going to care about.  I made the comment before about the Rams-Patriots super bowl, where in reality all the Patriots did was take cheap shots all day at the Rams' receivers and Faulk.  In the end, no-one cares how underhanded that all was.  In the end, all anyone cares about is that the Patriots won.  In the end, it was the Rams' fault for not returning the favor and taking cheap shots at Brady.

The NFL has always been about the ends justifying the means.  It doesn't matter how you win.  It doesn't matter how many steroids your club does, how many cheap shots you take, how unfair the calls are.  You know why it doesn't matter?  Because in the end, the fans, the media, everyone will sweep it under the rug because when the clock hit triple-zeroes, you had more points than your opponent.

Surely, the Steelers should admit that the refs were the reason that they won Super Bowl XL.  So should their fans.  It IS unfair, and that is the way the NFL always has been.

Cowher has coached the Steelers for 14 years.  He's been to the brink many, many times.  Yet HE was always the one getting punked.  HE was always the one never doing whatever it takes to WIN.  And now there is Cowher, getting HIS unfair advantage and pressing it.  It can be argued Cowher should have created his own unfair advantage a long, long time ago.  He was too nice.  It was too easy for him in the past to get punked and smile. 

So get your grubby hands on those ill-gotten gains Cowher.  Hold that trophy high.  Let everyone else scramble to prostrate themselves at your feet.  As he stood there smirking with his prize, I thought maybe he finally gets it, and I gained a little admiration for his willingness to be able to enjoy a win he knows he didn't earn fairly.

Now maybe you see why I have such high standards.  Win at all costs.  Because no matter how sinister or underhanded a win seems, in the end, everyone will not only give you glory for the dirty deed but anyone who does not will actually be called the classless ones!  Now maybe Cowher understands what it takes to win.

And this translates to real life as well.  We as Americans used every dirty trick we could to win independence.  We used every dirty trick to take the land from the native americans.  In the end, some whine, but the end justifies the means.  No one will take america from us.  No-one will take away rings from guys like Romanowski.  No-one will do anything but praise you.

how many Super Bowls have the browns been to?every single steeler fan owns a piece of you, do you realize the power you let us have over you due to your insane jealousy and hatred of the Steelers? We own you and your soul, your very fiber as a human being, we own you.

It's contagious

 

[The Jerk]

Kupcho,

Thanks for the new sig. I was waiting for just the right time and just the right line.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Holy cow, he's gone off the deep end. It's just like my Islander fan buddy in '94 after he'd spent his whole life talking about how the Rangers would never win the Cup in his lifetime. He snapped - I am afraid BGP has done likewise.

Get better, dude.

 

[Kosar]

I've waited a couple days to actually comment about the major topics stemming from Super Bowl XL.  Its been interesting to hear and read everyone discuss this.  Now, I'd like to share my point of view.

The NFL has never been about being fair.  Sure, there are people who like to pretend everyone plays with honor, but the reality is its not true at all.  We have guys like Bill Romanowski who uses steroids and wins three super bowls.  Sure, some people whine but in the end he has three rings and that is all anyone is going to care about.  I made the comment before about the Rams-Patriots super bowl, where in reality all the Patriots did was take cheap shots all day at the Rams' receivers and Faulk.  In the end, no-one cares how underhanded that all was.  In the end, all anyone cares about is that the Patriots won.  In the end, it was the Rams' fault for not returning the favor and taking cheap shots at Brady.

The NFL has always been about the ends justifying the means.  It doesn't matter how you win.  It doesn't matter how many steroids your club does, how many cheap shots you take, how unfair the calls are.  You know why it doesn't matter?  Because in the end, the fans, the media, everyone will sweep it under the rug because when the clock hit triple-zeroes, you had more points than your opponent.

Surely, the Steelers should admit that the refs were the reason that they won Super Bowl XL.  So should their fans.  It IS unfair, and that is the way the NFL always has been.

Cowher has coached the Steelers for 14 years.  He's been to the brink many, many times.  Yet HE was always the one getting punked.  HE was always the one never doing whatever it takes to WIN.  And now there is Cowher, getting HIS unfair advantage and pressing it.  It can be argued Cowher should have created his own unfair advantage a long, long time ago.  He was too nice.  It was too easy for him in the past to get punked and smile. 

So get your grubby hands on those ill-gotten gains Cowher.  Hold that trophy high.  Let everyone else scramble to prostrate themselves at your feet.  As he stood there smirking with his prize, I thought maybe he finally gets it, and I gained a little admiration for his willingness to be able to enjoy a win he knows he didn't earn fairly.

Now maybe you see why I have such high standards.  Win at all costs.  Because no matter how sinister or underhanded a win seems, in the end, everyone will not only give you glory for the dirty deed but anyone who does not will actually be called the classless ones!  Now maybe Cowher understands what it takes to win.

And this translates to real life as well.  We as Americans used every dirty trick we could to win independence.  We used every dirty trick to take the land from the native americans.  In the end, some whine, but the end justifies the means.  No one will take america from us.  No-one will take away rings from guys like Romanowski.  No-one will do anything but praise you.

how many Super Bowls have the browns been to?every single steeler fan owns a piece of you, do you realize the power you let us have over you due to your insane jealousy and hatred of the Steelers? We own you and your soul, your very fiber as a human being, we own you.

NFL Championship = Super Bowl

Browns = 4

Steelers = 5

Browns record vs Steelers

Granted, the recent record is terrible, but the numbers are the numbers.

Say something stupid like "we own you, we own you", and facts smack you down. Again, lately it has been that way, but your little diatribe is weak and embarrasses your fan base.

 

[tommyboy]

I've waited a couple days to actually comment about the major topics stemming from Super Bowl XL.  Its been interesting to hear and read everyone discuss this.  Now, I'd like to share my point of view.

The NFL has never been about being fair.  Sure, there are people who like to pretend everyone plays with honor, but the reality is its not true at all.  We have guys like Bill Romanowski who uses steroids and wins three super bowls.  Sure, some people whine but in the end he has three rings and that is all anyone is going to care about.  I made the comment before about the Rams-Patriots super bowl, where in reality all the Patriots did was take cheap shots all day at the Rams' receivers and Faulk.  In the end, no-one cares how underhanded that all was.  In the end, all anyone cares about is that the Patriots won.  In the end, it was the Rams' fault for not returning the favor and taking cheap shots at Brady.

The NFL has always been about the ends justifying the means.  It doesn't matter how you win.  It doesn't matter how many steroids your club does, how many cheap shots you take, how unfair the calls are.  You know why it doesn't matter?  Because in the end, the fans, the media, everyone will sweep it under the rug because when the clock hit triple-zeroes, you had more points than your opponent.

Surely, the Steelers should admit that the refs were the reason that they won Super Bowl XL.  So should their fans.  It IS unfair, and that is the way the NFL always has been.

Cowher has coached the Steelers for 14 years.  He's been to the brink many, many times.  Yet HE was always the one getting punked.  HE was always the one never doing whatever it takes to WIN.  And now there is Cowher, getting HIS unfair advantage and pressing it.  It can be argued Cowher should have created his own unfair advantage a long, long time ago.  He was too nice.  It was too easy for him in the past to get punked and smile. 

So get your grubby hands on those ill-gotten gains Cowher.  Hold that trophy high.  Let everyone else scramble to prostrate themselves at your feet.  As he stood there smirking with his prize, I thought maybe he finally gets it, and I gained a little admiration for his willingness to be able to enjoy a win he knows he didn't earn fairly.

Now maybe you see why I have such high standards.  Win at all costs.  Because no matter how sinister or underhanded a win seems, in the end, everyone will not only give you glory for the dirty deed but anyone who does not will actually be called the classless ones!  Now maybe Cowher understands what it takes to win.

And this translates to real life as well.  We as Americans used every dirty trick we could to win independence.  We used every dirty trick to take the land from the native americans.  In the end, some whine, but the end justifies the means.  No one will take america from us.  No-one will take away rings from guys like Romanowski.  No-one will do anything but praise you.

how many Super Bowls have the browns been to?every single steeler fan owns a piece of you, do you realize the power you let us have over you due to your insane jealousy and hatred of the Steelers? We own you and your soul, your very fiber as a human being, we own you.

NFL Championship = Super Bowl

Browns = 4

Steelers = 5

Browns record vs Steelers

Granted, the recent record is terrible, but the numbers are the numbers.

Say something stupid like "we own you, we own you", and facts smack you down. Again, lately it has been that way, but your little diatribe is weak and embarrasses your fan base.

i'm sorry, the NFL championship when there were 8 teams means nothing. The fact is in 40 yrs of the Super Bowl era, the Browns have never been to the Super Bowl, Pittsburgh has won 5 and been to 6 in that span, and that is in a pool that includes not just the original NFL, but also the merged teams of the AFL. So I'm glad the Browns have won something, but in relevant recent history, the last 40 years that is, the Browns have won nothing. The we own you comment is directed specifically at BGP, not you or any other coherent and rational Browns fan.BGP more than makes up for me, if we're comparing embarassing.

 

[apalmer]

I've waited a couple days to actually comment about the major topics stemming from Super Bowl XL.  Its been interesting to hear and read everyone discuss this.  Now, I'd like to share my point of view.

The NFL has never been about being fair.  Sure, there are people who like to pretend everyone plays with honor, but the reality is its not true at all.  We have guys like Bill Romanowski who uses steroids and wins three super bowls.  Sure, some people whine but in the end he has three rings and that is all anyone is going to care about.  I made the comment before about the Rams-Patriots super bowl, where in reality all the Patriots did was take cheap shots all day at the Rams' receivers and Faulk.  In the end, no-one cares how underhanded that all was.  In the end, all anyone cares about is that the Patriots won.  In the end, it was the Rams' fault for not returning the favor and taking cheap shots at Brady.

The NFL has always been about the ends justifying the means.  It doesn't matter how you win.  It doesn't matter how many steroids your club does, how many cheap shots you take, how unfair the calls are.  You know why it doesn't matter?  Because in the end, the fans, the media, everyone will sweep it under the rug because when the clock hit triple-zeroes, you had more points than your opponent.

Surely, the Steelers should admit that the refs were the reason that they won Super Bowl XL.  So should their fans.  It IS unfair, and that is the way the NFL always has been.

Cowher has coached the Steelers for 14 years.  He's been to the brink many, many times.  Yet HE was always the one getting punked.  HE was always the one never doing whatever it takes to WIN.  And now there is Cowher, getting HIS unfair advantage and pressing it.  It can be argued Cowher should have created his own unfair advantage a long, long time ago.  He was too nice.  It was too easy for him in the past to get punked and smile. 

So get your grubby hands on those ill-gotten gains Cowher.  Hold that trophy high.  Let everyone else scramble to prostrate themselves at your feet.  As he stood there smirking with his prize, I thought maybe he finally gets it, and I gained a little admiration for his willingness to be able to enjoy a win he knows he didn't earn fairly.

Now maybe you see why I have such high standards.  Win at all costs.  Because no matter how sinister or underhanded a win seems, in the end, everyone will not only give you glory for the dirty deed but anyone who does not will actually be called the classless ones!  Now maybe Cowher understands what it takes to win.

And this translates to real life as well.  We as Americans used every dirty trick we could to win independence.  We used every dirty trick to take the land from the native americans.  In the end, some whine, but the end justifies the means.  No one will take america from us.  No-one will take away rings from guys like Romanowski.  No-one will do anything but praise you.

how many Super Bowls have the browns been to?every single steeler fan owns a piece of you, do you realize the power you let us have over you due to your insane jealousy and hatred of the Steelers? We own you and your soul, your very fiber as a human being, we own you.

Is there some place where we can turn in our shares? I, for one, want no part of owning THAT! Should I try listing it on eBay? I'm afraid if I try to get rid of it here, I'll have to pay whoever takes it off my hands.

 

[The Jerk]

I've waited a couple days to actually comment about the major topics stemming from Super Bowl XL.  Its been interesting to hear and read everyone discuss this.  Now, I'd like to share my point of view.

The NFL has never been about being fair.  Sure, there are people who like to pretend everyone plays with honor, but the reality is its not true at all.  We have guys like Bill Romanowski who uses steroids and wins three super bowls.  Sure, some people whine but in the end he has three rings and that is all anyone is going to care about.  I made the comment before about the Rams-Patriots super bowl, where in reality all the Patriots did was take cheap shots all day at the Rams' receivers and Faulk.  In the end, no-one cares how underhanded that all was.  In the end, all anyone cares about is that the Patriots won.  In the end, it was the Rams' fault for not returning the favor and taking cheap shots at Brady.

The NFL has always been about the ends justifying the means.  It doesn't matter how you win.  It doesn't matter how many steroids your club does, how many cheap shots you take, how unfair the calls are.  You know why it doesn't matter?  Because in the end, the fans, the media, everyone will sweep it under the rug because when the clock hit triple-zeroes, you had more points than your opponent.

Surely, the Steelers should admit that the refs were the reason that they won Super Bowl XL.  So should their fans.  It IS unfair, and that is the way the NFL always has been.

Cowher has coached the Steelers for 14 years.  He's been to the brink many, many times.  Yet HE was always the one getting punked.  HE was always the one never doing whatever it takes to WIN.  And now there is Cowher, getting HIS unfair advantage and pressing it.  It can be argued Cowher should have created his own unfair advantage a long, long time ago.  He was too nice.  It was too easy for him in the past to get punked and smile. 

So get your grubby hands on those ill-gotten gains Cowher.  Hold that trophy high.  Let everyone else scramble to prostrate themselves at your feet.  As he stood there smirking with his prize, I thought maybe he finally gets it, and I gained a little admiration for his willingness to be able to enjoy a win he knows he didn't earn fairly.

Now maybe you see why I have such high standards.  Win at all costs.  Because no matter how sinister or underhanded a win seems, in the end, everyone will not only give you glory for the dirty deed but anyone who does not will actually be called the classless ones!  Now maybe Cowher understands what it takes to win.

And this translates to real life as well.  We as Americans used every dirty trick we could to win independence.  We used every dirty trick to take the land from the native americans.  In the end, some whine, but the end justifies the means.  No one will take america from us.  No-one will take away rings from guys like Romanowski.  No-one will do anything but praise you.

how many Super Bowls have the browns been to?every single steeler fan owns a piece of you, do you realize the power you let us have over you due to your insane jealousy and hatred of the Steelers? We own you and your soul, your very fiber as a human being, we own you.

NFL Championship = Super Bowl

Browns = 4

Steelers = 5

Browns record vs Steelers

Granted, the recent record is terrible, but the numbers are the numbers.

Say something stupid like "we own you, we own you", and facts smack you down. Again, lately it has been that way, but your little diatribe is weak and embarrasses your fan base.

The Browns' website mathematician must have been cut due to salary cap problems.Regular season: 55-49

Playoffs: 0-2

Total: 55-50

 

[Kosar]

i'm sorry, the NFL championship when there were 8 teams means nothing. The fact is in 40 yrs of the Super Bowl era, the Browns have never been to the Super Bowl, Pittsburgh has won 5 and been to 6 in that span, and that is in a pool that includes not just the original NFL, but also the merged teams of the AFL. So I'm glad the Browns have won something, but in relevant recent history, the last 40 years that is, the Browns have won nothing. The we own you comment is directed specifically at BGP, not you or any other coherent and rational Browns fan.

BGP more than makes up for me, if we're comparing embarassing.

This is the drivel that I HATE when some Steelers' fans start spewing. "Oooooo we have 4 Super Bowls, you guys have none." The NFL didn't start in 1975, like some of you like to think. An NFL championship is an NFL championship, and you can't "weigh" them. That's ridiculous. I do understand there were a lot less teams back then, but history is history.

You guys were nothing until the 70s. The 70s you guys were awesome. Then we were getting you back in the 80s. Then the 90s it was back to you. Now, we can't even get a team together to make it interesting.

I hate the morons (fans of Browns and Steelers) that can't give and take. History shows that this rivalry is cyclical. I'm sure there will be a time one again (someday ) where we are beating your ### again. Until then, enjoy it, brag a little, and take it like a man, and not a little school girl with the neener neener bull####.

 

[kupcho1]

Why wouldn't pre-Super Bowl championships count? Of course they count*

* unless taunting of Browns fans is involved

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Surely, the Steelers should admit that the refs were the reason that they won Super Bowl XL. So should their fans.

This was my favorite. Hey buddy, are we still satisfied with second place? Is Cowher still not the guy for the Pittsburgh job? Would we still have been better off going through a coaching change every 3 years?

Anyone with half a brain can see through your BS, which is exactly what you wanted. You're fooling no one with your comments. All you're doing is displaying how badly this championship is eating away at you. Your comments on Cowher were wrong. Your comments on the Steelers were wrong. Your beloved yards per point system is as effective as Nicole Ritchie at a pie-eating contest.

This has to be killing you.

 

[Kosar]

Why wouldn't pre-Super Bowl championships count? Of course they count*

* unless taunting of Browns fans is involved

Good one...

 

[Evilgrin 72]

This is the drivel that I HATE when some Steelers' fans start spewing.

"Oooooo we have 4 Super Bowls, you guys have none."

I agree - I hate it when Steeler fans say that.We have 5 Super Bowls, you guys have none.

 

[tommyboy]

I've waited a couple days to actually comment about the major topics stemming from Super Bowl XL.  Its been interesting to hear and read everyone discuss this.  Now, I'd like to share my point of view.

The NFL has never been about being fair.  Sure, there are people who like to pretend everyone plays with honor, but the reality is its not true at all.  We have guys like Bill Romanowski who uses steroids and wins three super bowls.  Sure, some people whine but in the end he has three rings and that is all anyone is going to care about.  I made the comment before about the Rams-Patriots super bowl, where in reality all the Patriots did was take cheap shots all day at the Rams' receivers and Faulk.  In the end, no-one cares how underhanded that all was.  In the end, all anyone cares about is that the Patriots won.  In the end, it was the Rams' fault for not returning the favor and taking cheap shots at Brady.

The NFL has always been about the ends justifying the means.  It doesn't matter how you win.  It doesn't matter how many steroids your club does, how many cheap shots you take, how unfair the calls are.  You know why it doesn't matter?  Because in the end, the fans, the media, everyone will sweep it under the rug because when the clock hit triple-zeroes, you had more points than your opponent.

Surely, the Steelers should admit that the refs were the reason that they won Super Bowl XL.  So should their fans.  It IS unfair, and that is the way the NFL always has been.

Cowher has coached the Steelers for 14 years.  He's been to the brink many, many times.  Yet HE was always the one getting punked.  HE was always the one never doing whatever it takes to WIN.  And now there is Cowher, getting HIS unfair advantage and pressing it.  It can be argued Cowher should have created his own unfair advantage a long, long time ago.  He was too nice.  It was too easy for him in the past to get punked and smile. 

So get your grubby hands on those ill-gotten gains Cowher.  Hold that trophy high.  Let everyone else scramble to prostrate themselves at your feet.  As he stood there smirking with his prize, I thought maybe he finally gets it, and I gained a little admiration for his willingness to be able to enjoy a win he knows he didn't earn fairly.

Now maybe you see why I have such high standards.  Win at all costs.  Because no matter how sinister or underhanded a win seems, in the end, everyone will not only give you glory for the dirty deed but anyone who does not will actually be called the classless ones!  Now maybe Cowher understands what it takes to win.

And this translates to real life as well.  We as Americans used every dirty trick we could to win independence.  We used every dirty trick to take the land from the native americans.  In the end, some whine, but the end justifies the means.  No one will take america from us.  No-one will take away rings from guys like Romanowski.  No-one will do anything but praise you.

how many Super Bowls have the browns been to?every single steeler fan owns a piece of you, do you realize the power you let us have over you due to your insane jealousy and hatred of the Steelers? We own you and your soul, your very fiber as a human being, we own you.

NFL Championship = Super Bowl

Browns = 4

Steelers = 5

Browns record vs Steelers

Granted, the recent record is terrible, but the numbers are the numbers.

Say something stupid like "we own you, we own you", and facts smack you down. Again, lately it has been that way, but your little diatribe is weak and embarrasses your fan base.

The Browns' website mathematician must have been cut due to salary cap problems.Regular season: 55-49

Playoffs: 0-2

Total: 55-50

also, since the 1967 season, the dawn of the Super Bowl era, The Steelers are 45-29 vs the Browns, including the playoff 2-0 record.

 

[Kosar]

I've waited a couple days to actually comment about the major topics stemming from Super Bowl XL.  Its been interesting to hear and read everyone discuss this.  Now, I'd like to share my point of view.

The NFL has never been about being fair.  Sure, there are people who like to pretend everyone plays with honor, but the reality is its not true at all.  We have guys like Bill Romanowski who uses steroids and wins three super bowls.  Sure, some people whine but in the end he has three rings and that is all anyone is going to care about.  I made the comment before about the Rams-Patriots super bowl, where in reality all the Patriots did was take cheap shots all day at the Rams' receivers and Faulk.  In the end, no-one cares how underhanded that all was.  In the end, all anyone cares about is that the Patriots won.  In the end, it was the Rams' fault for not returning the favor and taking cheap shots at Brady.

The NFL has always been about the ends justifying the means.  It doesn't matter how you win.  It doesn't matter how many steroids your club does, how many cheap shots you take, how unfair the calls are.  You know why it doesn't matter?  Because in the end, the fans, the media, everyone will sweep it under the rug because when the clock hit triple-zeroes, you had more points than your opponent.

Surely, the Steelers should admit that the refs were the reason that they won Super Bowl XL.  So should their fans.  It IS unfair, and that is the way the NFL always has been.

Cowher has coached the Steelers for 14 years.  He's been to the brink many, many times.  Yet HE was always the one getting punked.  HE was always the one never doing whatever it takes to WIN.  And now there is Cowher, getting HIS unfair advantage and pressing it.  It can be argued Cowher should have created his own unfair advantage a long, long time ago.  He was too nice.  It was too easy for him in the past to get punked and smile. 

So get your grubby hands on those ill-gotten gains Cowher.  Hold that trophy high.  Let everyone else scramble to prostrate themselves at your feet.  As he stood there smirking with his prize, I thought maybe he finally gets it, and I gained a little admiration for his willingness to be able to enjoy a win he knows he didn't earn fairly.

Now maybe you see why I have such high standards.  Win at all costs.  Because no matter how sinister or underhanded a win seems, in the end, everyone will not only give you glory for the dirty deed but anyone who does not will actually be called the classless ones!  Now maybe Cowher understands what it takes to win.

And this translates to real life as well.  We as Americans used every dirty trick we could to win independence.  We used every dirty trick to take the land from the native americans.  In the end, some whine, but the end justifies the means.  No one will take america from us.  No-one will take away rings from guys like Romanowski.  No-one will do anything but praise you.

how many Super Bowls have the browns been to?every single steeler fan owns a piece of you, do you realize the power you let us have over you due to your insane jealousy and hatred of the Steelers? We own you and your soul, your very fiber as a human being, we own you.

NFL Championship = Super Bowl

Browns = 4

Steelers = 5

Browns record vs Steelers

Granted, the recent record is terrible, but the numbers are the numbers.

Say something stupid like "we own you, we own you", and facts smack you down. Again, lately it has been that way, but your little diatribe is weak and embarrasses your fan base.

The Browns' website mathematician must have been cut due to salary cap problems.Regular season: 55-49

Playoffs: 0-2

Total: 55-50

also, since the 1967 season, the dawn of the Super Bowl era, The Steelers are 45-29 vs the Browns, including the playoff 2-0 record.

Unfortunately, those wins are being padded by the poor excuses the Browns are putting out there since '99. But the numbers don't lie, just as they didn't in the 50s and 60s.

 

[tommyboy]

I've waited a couple days to actually comment about the major topics stemming from Super Bowl XL.  Its been interesting to hear and read everyone discuss this.  Now, I'd like to share my point of view.

The NFL has never been about being fair.  Sure, there are people who like to pretend everyone plays with honor, but the reality is its not true at all.  We have guys like Bill Romanowski who uses steroids and wins three super bowls.  Sure, some people whine but in the end he has three rings and that is all anyone is going to care about.  I made the comment before about the Rams-Patriots super bowl, where in reality all the Patriots did was take cheap shots all day at the Rams' receivers and Faulk.  In the end, no-one cares how underhanded that all was.  In the end, all anyone cares about is that the Patriots won.  In the end, it was the Rams' fault for not returning the favor and taking cheap shots at Brady.

The NFL has always been about the ends justifying the means.  It doesn't matter how you win.  It doesn't matter how many steroids your club does, how many cheap shots you take, how unfair the calls are.  You know why it doesn't matter?  Because in the end, the fans, the media, everyone will sweep it under the rug because when the clock hit triple-zeroes, you had more points than your opponent.

Surely, the Steelers should admit that the refs were the reason that they won Super Bowl XL.  So should their fans.  It IS unfair, and that is the way the NFL always has been.

Cowher has coached the Steelers for 14 years.  He's been to the brink many, many times.  Yet HE was always the one getting punked.  HE was always the one never doing whatever it takes to WIN.  And now there is Cowher, getting HIS unfair advantage and pressing it.  It can be argued Cowher should have created his own unfair advantage a long, long time ago.  He was too nice.  It was too easy for him in the past to get punked and smile. 

So get your grubby hands on those ill-gotten gains Cowher.  Hold that trophy high.  Let everyone else scramble to prostrate themselves at your feet.  As he stood there smirking with his prize, I thought maybe he finally gets it, and I gained a little admiration for his willingness to be able to enjoy a win he knows he didn't earn fairly.

Now maybe you see why I have such high standards.  Win at all costs.  Because no matter how sinister or underhanded a win seems, in the end, everyone will not only give you glory for the dirty deed but anyone who does not will actually be called the classless ones!  Now maybe Cowher understands what it takes to win.

And this translates to real life as well.  We as Americans used every dirty trick we could to win independence.  We used every dirty trick to take the land from the native americans.  In the end, some whine, but the end justifies the means.  No one will take america from us.  No-one will take away rings from guys like Romanowski.  No-one will do anything but praise you.

how many Super Bowls have the browns been to?every single steeler fan owns a piece of you, do you realize the power you let us have over you due to your insane jealousy and hatred of the Steelers? We own you and your soul, your very fiber as a human being, we own you.

NFL Championship = Super Bowl

Browns = 4

Steelers = 5

Browns record vs Steelers

Granted, the recent record is terrible, but the numbers are the numbers.

Say something stupid like "we own you, we own you", and facts smack you down. Again, lately it has been that way, but your little diatribe is weak and embarrasses your fan base.

The Browns' website mathematician must have been cut due to salary cap problems.Regular season: 55-49

Playoffs: 0-2

Total: 55-50

also, since the 1967 season, the dawn of the Super Bowl era, The Steelers are 45-29 vs the Browns, including the playoff 2-0 record.

Unfortunately, those wins are being padded by the poor excuses the Browns are putting out there since '99. But the numbers don't lie, just as they didn't in the 50s and 60s.

check your PM's

 

[Godsbrother]

Here is a fun fact. There are 6 teams that never made it to the Super Bowl: Arizona, Cleveland, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans.

Arizona, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans have all hosted Super Bowls.

Cleveland is the only NFL team to have neither played in or hosted a Super Bowl.

I thought it was interesting.

 

[Kosar]

Here is a fun fact. There are 6 teams that never made it to the Super Bowl: Arizona, Cleveland, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans.

Arizona, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans have all hosted Super Bowls.

Cleveland is the only NFL team to have neither played in or hosted a Super Bowl.

I thought it was interesting.

Par for the course. I don't think hosting will come anytime soon.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Here is a fun fact.  There are 6 teams that never made it to the Super Bowl:  Arizona, Cleveland, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans.

Arizona, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans have all hosted Super Bowls. 

Cleveland is the only NFL team to have neither played in or hosted a Super Bowl.

I thought it was interesting.

Par for the course. I don't think hosting will come anytime soon.

Ahh but the road to the Super Bowl did go through Cleveland for many Steelers fans...and the trophy itself was probably only a few thousand feet above Cleveland... for a few minutes anyway.

 

[Kosar]

Here is a fun fact.  There are 6 teams that never made it to the Super Bowl:  Arizona, Cleveland, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans.

Arizona, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans have all hosted Super Bowls. 

Cleveland is the only NFL team to have neither played in or hosted a Super Bowl.

I thought it was interesting.

Par for the course. I don't think hosting will come anytime soon.

Ahh but the road to the Super Bowl did go through Cleveland for many Steelers fans...and the trophy itself was probably only a few thousand feet above Cleveland... for a few minutes anyway.

We're all impressed.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

I've have been totally consistent on this.  Heck, I was here when the Patriots beat the Rams in the super bowl.  I said the same thing then that I'm saying now.

And you were as clueless then as you are now You are virtually alone in your delusional rantings regarding NE cheapshoting their way to their 1st title

As for this years SB, it was the worst officiated ever and sadly that ruined it not only for Seattle and their fans but for Pittsburghs fans as well; who right or wrong will forever have to listen to so many who are convinced the Steeler victory was tainted :(

 

[Sheriff66]

Here is a fun fact.  There are 6 teams that never made it to the Super Bowl:  Arizona, Cleveland, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans.

Arizona, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans have all hosted Super Bowls. 

Cleveland is the only NFL team to have neither played in or hosted a Super Bowl.

I thought it was interesting.

Par for the course. I don't think hosting will come anytime soon.

...Or winning it.

 

[apalmer]

Here is a fun fact.  There are 6 teams that never made it to the Super Bowl:  Arizona, Cleveland, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans.

Arizona, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans have all hosted Super Bowls. 

Cleveland is the only NFL team to have neither played in or hosted a Super Bowl.

I thought it was interesting.

Par for the course. I don't think hosting will come anytime soon.

...Or winning it.

Hey, let's cut Kosar some slack: He was man enough to congratulate the Steeler fans in another thread and smart enough to distance himself from BGP in this one. That deserves some respect and at least a temporary easing of the normal Steelers/Browns tension.

 

[Mik789fl]

Why not just admit you have some secret "man-love" for Mr. Bill. Or maybe some "championship envy",being a Brown's fan and all.

Whoa, c'mon now. The Browns have 4 NFL Championships.And no, I do not apologize for hijacking this poor excuse of a thread.

The "Browns" moved to Baltimore and became the "Ravens". An expansion team moved into Cleveland and took the "Browns" name,in the same way the Washington Senators left and became the Minnesota Twins,an expansion team came into Washington and took the Senators name,they then ALSO left and became the Texas Rangers. The "Browns" championships are in Baltimore,with MR.Modell. .....and this thread DESERVES to be hijacked!

This couldn't be more incorrect!! I'm assuming you've been a fan since, what, 2000?

And what is incorrect about it? Art Modell owned the Browns,he moved his franchise and renamed them the Ravens. When Tagliabue announced there would be a team in Cleveland again he said the NFL was awarding an expansion franchise to the city to be named the Browns. ESSO became EXXON,same company,different name. The Senators became the Twins,same company,different name. The Browns became the Ravens,same company,different name. Cleveland got a NEW company.

 

[kupcho1]

Here is a fun fact.  There are 6 teams that never made it to the Super Bowl:  Arizona, Cleveland, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans.

Arizona, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans have all hosted Super Bowls. 

Cleveland is the only NFL team to have neither played in or hosted a Super Bowl.

I thought it was interesting.

Par for the course. I don't think hosting will come anytime soon.

...Or winning it.

Hey, let's cut Kosar some slack: He was man enough to congratulate the Steeler fans in another thread and smart enough to distance himself from BGP in this one. That deserves some respect and at least a temporary easing of the normal Steelers/Browns tension.

Roger that, apalmer. I've reduced the threat level from black to gold. Can I get a copy? Over.

 

[Sheriff66]

Here is a fun fact.  There are 6 teams that never made it to the Super Bowl:  Arizona, Cleveland, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans.

Arizona, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans have all hosted Super Bowls. 

Cleveland is the only NFL team to have neither played in or hosted a Super Bowl.

I thought it was interesting.

Par for the course. I don't think hosting will come anytime soon.

...Or winning it.

Hey, let's cut Kosar some slack: He was man enough to congratulate the Steeler fans in another thread and smart enough to distance himself from BGP in this one. That deserves some respect and at least a temporary easing of the normal Steelers/Browns tension.

But apalmer, he's still a Brownies fan.....

 

[kupcho1]

I've have been totally consistent on this.  Heck, I was here when the Patriots beat the Rams in the super bowl.  I said the same thing then that I'm saying now.

And you were as clueless then as you are now You are virtually alone in your delusional rantings regarding NE cheapshoting their way to their 1st title

As for this years SB, it was the worst officiated ever and sadly that ruined it not only for Seattle and their fans but for Pittsburghs fans as well; who right or wrong will forever have to listen to so many who are convinced the Steeler victory was tainted :(

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

The meltdown continues.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Here is a fun fact.  There are 6 teams that never made it to the Super Bowl:  Arizona, Cleveland, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans.

Arizona, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans have all hosted Super Bowls. 

Cleveland is the only NFL team to have neither played in or hosted a Super Bowl.

I thought it was interesting.

Par for the course. I don't think hosting will come anytime soon.

...Or winning it.

Hey, let's cut Kosar some slack: He was man enough to congratulate the Steeler fans in another thread and smart enough to distance himself from BGP in this one. That deserves some respect and at least a temporary easing of the normal Steelers/Browns tension.

But apalmer, he's still a Brownies fan.....

And he likes it that way - see my sig!

 

[Hammered Finz]

I've waited a couple days to actually comment about the major topics stemming from Super Bowl XL. Its been interesting to hear and read everyone discuss this. Now, I'd like to share my point of view.

The NFL has never been about being fair. Sure, there are people who like to pretend everyone plays with honor, but the reality is its not true at all. We have guys like Bill Romanowski who uses steroids and wins three super bowls. Sure, some people whine but in the end he has three rings and that is all anyone is going to care about. I made the comment before about the Rams-Patriots super bowl, where in reality all the Patriots did was take cheap shots all day at the Rams' receivers and Faulk. In the end, no-one cares how underhanded that all was. In the end, all anyone cares about is that the Patriots won. In the end, it was the Rams' fault for not returning the favor and taking cheap shots at Brady.

The NFL has always been about the ends justifying the means. It doesn't matter how you win. It doesn't matter how many steroids your club does, how many cheap shots you take, how unfair the calls are. You know why it doesn't matter? Because in the end, the fans, the media, everyone will sweep it under the rug because when the clock hit triple-zeroes, you had more points than your opponent.

Surely, the Steelers should admit that the refs were the reason that they won Super Bowl XL. So should their fans. It IS unfair, and that is the way the NFL always has been.

Cowher has coached the Steelers for 14 years. He's been to the brink many, many times. Yet HE was always the one getting punked. HE was always the one never doing whatever it takes to WIN. And now there is Cowher, getting HIS unfair advantage and pressing it. It can be argued Cowher should have created his own unfair advantage a long, long time ago. He was too nice. It was too easy for him in the past to get punked and smile.

So get your grubby hands on those ill-gotten gains Cowher. Hold that trophy high. Let everyone else scramble to prostrate themselves at your feet. As he stood there smirking with his prize, I thought maybe he finally gets it, and I gained a little admiration for his willingness to be able to enjoy a win he knows he didn't earn fairly.

Now maybe you see why I have such high standards. Win at all costs. Because no matter how sinister or underhanded a win seems, in the end, everyone will not only give you glory for the dirty deed but anyone who does not will actually be called the classless ones! Now maybe Cowher understands what it takes to win.

And this translates to real life as well. We as Americans used every dirty trick we could to win independence. We used every dirty trick to take the land from the native americans. In the end, some whine, but the end justifies the means. No one will take america from us. No-one will take away rings from guys like Romanowski. No-one will do anything but praise you.

look kids.. Big Ben.. Parliment... just can't get out of this lane.. kids-- Big Ben... Parliment.... repeat...

 

[Kosar]

Why not just admit you have some secret "man-love" for Mr. Bill. Or maybe some "championship envy",being a Brown's fan and all.

Whoa, c'mon now. The Browns have 4 NFL Championships.And no, I do not apologize for hijacking this poor excuse of a thread.

The "Browns" moved to Baltimore and became the "Ravens". An expansion team moved into Cleveland and took the "Browns" name,in the same way the Washington Senators left and became the Minnesota Twins,an expansion team came into Washington and took the Senators name,they then ALSO left and became the Texas Rangers. The "Browns" championships are in Baltimore,with MR.Modell. .....and this thread DESERVES to be hijacked!

This couldn't be more incorrect!! I'm assuming you've been a fan since, what, 2000?

And what is incorrect about it? Art Modell owned the Browns,he moved his franchise and renamed them the Ravens. When Tagliabue announced there would be a team in Cleveland again he said the NFL was awarding an expansion franchise to the city to be named the Browns. ESSO became EXXON,same company,different name. The Senators became the Twins,same company,different name. The Browns became the Ravens,same company,different name. Cleveland got a NEW company.

Again, you are embarrassing yourself with how wrong you are. The entire team's history is with the current Cleveland franchise. That was part of the deal for Modell to leave. HE is the one that started the "new company", as you say it, which by the way, is a terrible analogy.

Every time you see ANYTHING regarding the current Browns, whether it's a teaser before a game, or anything, you always see things like Jim Brown, the Drive, the Fumble, all of that crap, They will mention all-time series records, etc.

Is it sinking it yet?? This is like NFL 101.

And Lord help you if the city of Pittsburgh and the fans of the Steelers ever have to go through something like this. In my eyes, if the Browns can be moved, ANY team could be moved (except for maybe the Packers, since they have a unique ownership situation).

 

[Kosar]

Here is a fun fact.  There are 6 teams that never made it to the Super Bowl:  Arizona, Cleveland, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans.

Arizona, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans have all hosted Super Bowls. 

Cleveland is the only NFL team to have neither played in or hosted a Super Bowl.

I thought it was interesting.

Par for the course. I don't think hosting will come anytime soon.

...Or winning it.

Good thing your Steeler brethren are coming to your rescue.

 

[tommyboy]

Here is a fun fact.  There are 6 teams that never made it to the Super Bowl:  Arizona, Cleveland, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans.

Arizona, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, and New Orleans have all hosted Super Bowls. 

Cleveland is the only NFL team to have neither played in or hosted a Super Bowl.

I thought it was interesting.

Par for the course. I don't think hosting will come anytime soon.

...Or winning it.

Hey, let's cut Kosar some slack: He was man enough to congratulate the Steeler fans in another thread and smart enough to distance himself from BGP in this one. That deserves some respect and at least a temporary easing of the normal Steelers/Browns tension.

send him a PM, I did. He's a good fellow.