Chaka
Footballguy
Agreed
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kutta
Footballguy
Seriously?
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
Huh?
Rovers
Footballguy
I always felt the Jets didn't give Woodhead enough playing time, and why he never returned punts is a real mystery to me. He goes down pretty easy, but he's fast and shifty. He also plays with an amount of reckless abandon. Sorry to see him go.
I don't think this is a revenge move by BB. He is far too calculating for that. There isn't much time to pick his brains at this point anyway. If Woodhead belongs in the NFL, Belicik will find a way to use him.
I don't think this is a revenge move by BB. He is far too calculating for that. There isn't much time to pick his brains at this point anyway. If Woodhead belongs in the NFL, Belicik will find a way to use him.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Woodhead, a third-year player out of Chadron State, was waived by the Jets on Tuesday. Woodhead is a soldier, hope he gets some carries in that backfield.
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
What did this cost the Pats? A few grand? In return, they get to de-brief Woodhead and perhaps gain an edge in some facet of the game? This is right up BB's alley and completely legit. Very smart move, particularly intra-division.
KGB
Footballguy
Cant believe Im agreeing with a Jets fan, but agreed. And the jets didnt trade for Oconnell just for info, whoever said that.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
Am I missing something, besides the Letter does the team captain actually get anything?
rabidfireweasel
Footballguy
Actually, I disagree for defensive purposes. If Woodhead, Belichick and Mayo sit down and talk about the audible calls- Mayo can yell out- "It is a run left" before the snap. The isn't much time to change all the calls, but there is more than enough time to learn two or three calls where the shift from pass to run or run to pass.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Oh you mean like the time when Anthony Smith mouthed off on the Steelers and Brady went to Moss over Smith all game... like that? Please BB does this stuff all the time and he for sure holds grudges and doesn't forget anything anyone does to trip up his endless quest for complete and total perfection.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Yaknowwhat; watch him stick.
Belichick finds a place for guys like this.
Gamer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skzII7iUdwY
mcintyre1
Footballguy
Not sure why this needs clarification. The Jets are the only team that have shown Woodhead any love in his whole career. By signing with the Pats just prior to playing the Jets, the Jets organization will see that as a slap in the face, regardless of whether Woodhead actually helps the Pats learn the Jet's offensive calls. So, effectively, Woodhead has burned the only bridge to a regular gig that he's had over the last 3 years.
Cassius
Footballguy
Yeah, obviously is Brady throws to Randy Moss a lot, it must be because of some kind of grudge.
Cassius
Footballguy
Yeah, you're right, he should just sit at home playing COD hoping the Jets give him a camp spot next year.
If you get cut so the team can sign David freakin Clowney, maybe it's time for a fresh start.Yeah, I'm sure that had nothing to do with Brady going to Moss and Smith sucking and NE trying to win the game. The only motive was revenge. Nothing else!
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Gee, thank God the Ravens didn't pick up one of our cuts earlier this week. My point is that with Schottenheimer running the offense, I don't think teams need an extra edge. Just let the idiot, I mean great young offensive mind, Schotteheimer, trick his own offense with all kinds of movement and lack of rhythm.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
ryan's probably paying woodhead to infiltrate the pats as a mole.
Jewell
Footballguy
If you watched that game it was obvious there was a grudge. Whether it was McDaniels calling the plays or Brady just going after Smith, they abused the kid and then Brady got in Smith's face after a TD grab. Good times.And whether Belichick plans to keep Woodhead or not, he definitely has the coaching staff prying him for info.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
nothing to see here...stuff like this happens all the time (Mangini, hi!).
player in question could become part of the long term plan or could be cut next week. i'll bet the latter.
player in question could become part of the long term plan or could be cut next week. i'll bet the latter.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
The emphasis placed on it was definitely grudge worthy. Especially Brady's mannerisms. You can paint it all day however you want but BB and the Pats want this one bad. Signing Woodhead is the equivalent to the way the Jets signed O'Connell last year and you arn't going to convince me any differently. Does that mean that there is no use for Woodhead in NE?... maybe, maybe not I don't disagree with you and others stating that BB will find a use for Woodhead I just doubt it is a significant one.
Cassius
Footballguy
Just saying I think some fans are a little paranoid. I'm sure Brady liked owning Smith, but it's not like they wouldn't have been throwing to Moss anyways since Smith was bad in that game. If that's your idea of a "grudge," then okay.
Rovers
Footballguy
Belichik can hold a grudge, no doubt. What I am saying is that he won't use a roster spot soley for the purpose of revenge, he is too calculating for that. He either thinks Woodhead can contribute or picking his brain is worth it, or both. Woodhead owes the Jets nothing. They cut him. Is he supposed to quietly retire now? I hope the Jets win 24-7 and Woodhead scores a TD. Or two.
Csonka4life
Footballguy
The league minimum is 20K a week before taxes and agents fee. Is he supposed to take 1/4 the money to go back to the Jets' practice squad. Put in a working man's perspective he gets paid a years pay for low end job in one week. I don't know anybody who would turn that down in a recession.
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QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Jets and Patriots have been doing this back and forth for what seems like forever now. It is a bit more interesting giving the long association Woodhead has had with the Jets, but it's never led to a regular role for him there. It's not unreasonable to figure if they haven't kept him full-time by now, maybe better opportunities lie elsewhere. Even if it's a cynical one-week play by the Patriots, Woodhead has to figure it can't hurt to show what he can do and how hard he works to another group of coaches.
-QG
-QG
I mean, I think it's a good move by the PATS. Sure, they can gain some info but why can't Woodhead play and Edelman type of role? He looks like he has sure hands and he definitely has the speed.. I think this guy was made for the Patriots. BB will definitely find a way to use him... a more explosive Kevin Faulk role? Woodhead is cheap and he's a hardworker... this was definitely a win/win signing.
Looks like Sammy Morris is worthless and the Law Firm is worth a pick up. Considering they average 2 yards per carry and they still ran the ball 20 times, thats pretty encouraging. Sooner or later they're going to have to run the ball more because their pass defense is terrible and they need to keep the other team's offense off the field. No knock on Mark Sanchez but he doesn't throw 3 tds on even some of the worst defenses. Welker looked slow out there and Randy Moss isn't making one handed catches every week.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
I think the only thing we can say for certain is that Sammy Morris will be worthless as long as Fred Taylor is healthy.
zamboni
Footballguy
I was at the game yesterday, and it is hard to base a lot on his 10 carries - it is VERY tough to run on the Jets. Ask Ray Rice.
D. Yudkin has documented BJGE's average skills, but one thing is for sure: the guy runs hard.
All that said, the injury bug may be clearing a bit more of a role for BJGE. Seems like Taylor is dealing with a toe injury, and while Faulk got the most snaps, he suffered a knee injury at the end of the game. He was down and walked off, but seemed gingerly so. Morris seems to be a non-entity at this point.
D. Yudkin has documented BJGE's average skills, but one thing is for sure: the guy runs hard.
All that said, the injury bug may be clearing a bit more of a role for BJGE. Seems like Taylor is dealing with a toe injury, and while Faulk got the most snaps, he suffered a knee injury at the end of the game. He was down and walked off, but seemed gingerly so. Morris seems to be a non-entity at this point.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
tim_whatley
Footballguy
Yeah, but with Maroney gone and Taylor's injury history, BGE isn't a bad guy to stash on the roster.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
I would say if ever there was a week to own him, this is probably the week.
Jambi
Footballguy
Some people seem to think their speculation or eye for talent is superior to others. Benjarvus is talented. Yes, I watch the same games as you. Your word isn't some how more important because you know a guy who's cousin is a janitor for the organization. Someone has to say it. I'm tired of reading Pats threads and listening to the same guy talk to others as if he's sitting on the bench during the games and in the locker room during meetings.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
You don't need to know anyone to notice that the Pats running back production has not been great so far. They rank 29th in the league in team fantasy points scored by RBs. Four teams have doubled up the Pats RB scoring. It's still early, but factor in the RBBC aspect of the NE backfield, and there has not been much pie to split among multiple backs. The total numbers may not change much if the Pats continue to look to pass early and often like they did against the Jets (2 to 1 passing ratio).
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
In fairness, they have played the Bengals and Jets. The sledding will get easier for the running game.David Yudkin said:
zamboni
Footballguy
Looks like Faulk could be out for awhile - if nothing else, it could mean more billable hours for Law Firm.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...n-faulk-return/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...n-faulk-return/
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Well played, sir
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
Sorry if this is a honda. Quick search brought back no results.
Speculation is that Kevin Faulk is going to miss extended time this year: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...in-faulk-return
Who do you think is most likely to be on the field for obvious passing downs and benefit most from his absense?
Seems like Taylor may be the most logical choice with his 290 career receptions over 12 years while Morris has 155 over 10 years and BJGE has 5 over his 2 years.
Anyone think that Taylor is the guy to have here or will the Pats change their game plan rather than just plugging in different players?
Speculation is that Kevin Faulk is going to miss extended time this year: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...in-faulk-return
Who do you think is most likely to be on the field for obvious passing downs and benefit most from his absense?
Seems like Taylor may be the most logical choice with his 290 career receptions over 12 years while Morris has 155 over 10 years and BJGE has 5 over his 2 years.
Anyone think that Taylor is the guy to have here or will the Pats change their game plan rather than just plugging in different players?
HurryUpSundays
Footballguy
The worst running back situation in the bidness (fantasy-wise)....
Pass.
Pass.
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
Agreed but in alot of leagues out there the guy who gets these touches will be valuable. Remember Corey Dillon once had value as the Pats starter. If it happens and you get the right guys he will be worth something.
