I think he just slapped them with his ####.
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LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Who? Woodhead?Do you think he's the play over BJGE?Clifton said:
More Woodhead love on Yahoo
"Sept. 30, RB Danny Woodhead figures to play a significant role Monday night in Miami. The Patriots have five running backs on the active roster, but there are always injury concerns with veterans Sammy Morris and Fred Taylor, so Woodhead will more than likely have a role as the season progresses. He debuted with three carries for 42 yards and a touchdown last week."
Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
My rbs being Pierre Thomas (GTD), McCoy, Fred Taylor (hurt toe) and Marion Barber (on bye); I bit. Dropped Taylor for BJGE and dropped Manningham for LaDell Betts (someone beat me to Ivory).Looks like BenJarvus might be getting the nod.Clifton said:
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
No. But it wouldn't be the first or last time that Belly-chick screwed me...
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
wow I might have to put this guy on ignore. This is about the third or fourt post of his that is so wrong it hurts.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
CJnoK?Just traded CJnoK for Woodhead. Feel good about it.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
woodhead?Truman said:
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
I translated it as Chris Johnson + the New Orleans Kicker.Bad trade, imho.CJnoK?Just traded CJnoK for Woodhead. Feel good about it.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
HUh? They are carrying three kickers now? really?I translated it as Chris Johnson + the New Orleans Kicker.Bad trade, imho.CJnoK?Just traded CJnoK for Woodhead. Feel good about it.
Chad Jackson no Contract [since they already use the C for corporation,economists and business lawyers use the letter K to stand for contract}
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David Yudkin
Footballguy
Since NE plays Monday night, they started practice a day later than everyone else this week. It's still possible that Taylor will try to practice and be active for the game on MNF (although I doubt it). I would guess he will be listed as doubtful on the injury report and probably will be deactivated for the game. The worst outcome fantasy wise is if he struggles and practices on a limited basis this afternoon or tomorrow and gets listed as questionable. The usually Pats treat guys listed as questionable as game time decisions and they would give him a look see an hour or two before game time and then figure out what to do. Of course, with the game on Monday night, that leaves fantasy owners in a bad spot. I would plan on going in a different direction this week at RB for anyone thinking of starting him unless it comes out by the early games Sunday that he will be playing.
Unwrittenlaw
Footballguy
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Pats leading rusher in their last 10 road games . . .NYJ 22 yards
HOU 33
BUF 81
MIA 41
NOS 64
IND 79
TBB 43
DEN 68
NYJ 46
BUF 85
Shouldn't it say that Brady, Moss, Welker, and the rest of the passing game get a break?I was forced to pick up BJGE to cover ADP's bye week. My opponent has Ronnie Brown. I hope I have a lead that night because I don't have high hopes for BJGE. Best case, Pats storm out to a big lead and BJGE gets 10+ second half carries.
Chaka
Footballguy
TDs?
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I'd have to go look things all up again, but IIRC there was a game where someone had 2 TD and several games with 0 TDs (at least from the guy that had the most rushing yards).
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
???
If you have another RB who u think will do better than 80yds and a td then play him; otherwise u could do a lot worse than Benny imho.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
My concern is that BJGE could get 10 carries in the first half but the Pats defense gets lit up and they don't run the ball hardly at all in the second if they are behind (like seemingly every road game last year and this year). A line of 12-48-0 with 2-8-0 is not out of the realm of possibility.Even though Morris hasn't been used all that much, I think his role will increase if Taylor is out and the carries might be 60/40 BJGE to Morris. I would give both guys a 50/50 chance of getting a TD in that scenario and it would depend on whose drive it was (the Pats like to rotate backs by drive).
I'm not very confident the Pats defense can keep Miami from scoring in the 30s. This game has the chance of being a track meet with lots of points on the board. If the Pats get behind, I think we will not see a lot more passing and hardly any rushing attempts.
Given that the bye weeks are starting and some other RBs are dinged or out, BJGE is a decent option fantasy wise. I just don't feel as confident as Clifton that Law Firm will have a huge week.
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NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
I think Miami will move the ball, as will NE, but I really don't see the game getting out of hand or becoming a wide open track meet. I don't see Morris as much of a threat (he has looked slow don't u think?), but it is not out of the realm of possibility that he vultures a gl td. Call me crazy, but I think Woodhead might be more of a threat to steal carries and play on 3rd down than Morris. Benny ran well last week and I would be very surprised if he doesn't get the opportunity to prove himself again this week.Having said all that, I wasn't really paying attention to the post you replied to (thought u were being a bit tuff on NEs running game) and while I obviously anticipate a bit more production than you do, I think we both agree that Benny is at least a decent option this week.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Taylor a no show again at practice today, so I don't see him suiting up Monday. Given the byes and injuries around the league, BJGE probably an ok fantasy option as a RB2. I still think there is a decent chance he puts up pedestrian numbers.
Recent RB totals playing in MIA (with a 4-5 record in that time) . . .
09 Maroney 13-41-0
08 Faulk 8-53-1
07 Maroney 14-156-1 (60 yard TD run)
06 Dillon 16-79-0
05 Evans 17-84-0
04 Dillon 26-121-1
03 Faulk 18-38-0
02 Smith 9-14-0
01 Smith 14-47-1
Recent RB totals playing in MIA (with a 4-5 record in that time) . . .
09 Maroney 13-41-0
08 Faulk 8-53-1
07 Maroney 14-156-1 (60 yard TD run)
06 Dillon 16-79-0
05 Evans 17-84-0
04 Dillon 26-121-1
03 Faulk 18-38-0
02 Smith 9-14-0
01 Smith 14-47-1
nysportsfan
Footballguy
Thanks for the update. Decisions, decisions.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
by the #'s how does MIA D correlate there. This version looks pretty weak thus far.David Yudkin said:
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
still debating starting BJGE over tollbert (moreno/caddy out)
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David Yudkin
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Which then meant Woodhead started getting the ball more and he looked good too.Halfway through the game I felt...hey, maybe I have some nice depth at RB that Stewart and Ricky were not giving me (though, he looked pretty good for a bit tonight too)...then Woodhead started getting it more in the 2nd half and made me unsure again.
boneman18
Footballguy
BenJarvus finished the game pounding the rock, violently leading with his head seeking contact.
Woodhead looked pretty good too, but he isn't on BJGE's level, as far as putting the running game on his shoulders. A good way to judge talent is when defenses actually gameplan for you, needless to say 'Woody will be heavily scrutinized going forward.
Woodhead is a perfect replacement for Faulk FWIW.
Woodhead looked pretty good too, but he isn't on BJGE's level, as far as putting the running game on his shoulders. A good way to judge talent is when defenses actually gameplan for you, needless to say 'Woody will be heavily scrutinized going forward.
Woodhead is a perfect replacement for Faulk FWIW.
Chaka
Footballguy
We all noticed the same thing but the majority of Woodhead's production came on the drive following Miami's answering score (from Tate's KR return TD) in the 3rd quarter. That drive was run from the 2 minute drill. It makes sense that the Pats would keep the Kevin Faulk replacement (i.e. Woodhead) in for that series.Woodhead received subsequent carries but BJGE still seemed like the hammer in this offense. Overall I am impressed with his production (16 for 76 and a TD) and think that Fred Taylor's health is the only thing preventing BJGE from having a fantasy RB#2 season.
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Chaka
Footballguy
I agree. Woodhead has Kevin Faulk value...actually I think he may be a tad more dynamic and certainly more explosive so (again IMO) he has slightly more value than Faulk. If this were a two headed RBBC I would be thrilled to have either as my #3 RB, however Freddy T should still see plenty of action so I imagine that will impact BJGE's performance going forward. How much is anyone's guess.
yellowdog
Footballguy
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
From limited action, it looks like Sammy Morris is pretty much done.
He's still a helacious blocker, though (see kickoff return TD).
He's still a helacious blocker, though (see kickoff return TD).
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
The "Faulk back" value has to go up with moss gone. Is this Woodhead from here on out? If Fred Taylor is healthy, will that impact woodhead or bge. Or both or neither at this point?
Chaka
Footballguy
I have to think that Taylor's presence will impact BJGE more than Woodhead who seems to have filled out the Faulk role perfectly (maybe he's even an upgrade over Faulk). Taylor and BJGE are two down & short yardage backs who the Pats rely on to get positive yardage and put the team into manageable 3rd down situations. Neither is really a 3rd down/receiving type of back.I was also a little surprised to see that Woodhead was in on more snaps (28) than BJGE (24) on Monday night. Both backs have looked good and it will be interesting to see how Fred gets worked back into the offense after the Pats bye.Leeroy Jenkins said:
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
David Yudkin
Footballguy
BJGE and Taylor rotated series before the Taylor injury and both should again see the ball a fair amount once Fred gets back.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Paging Yudkin to the white courtesy phone.
Taylor did not practice yesterday and was not on the field for the begining of practice today (Wednesday). If he doesn'tpractice tomorrow it's all BJGE although it's against the Ravens
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I think they hold Taylor out again this week but play him next week against the Chargers. BJGE benefits this week, Woodhead gets 5-6 carries, the Pats have trouble running the ball and will have to reintroduce the dink and dunk passing game to serve as their running game this week. Like any team, should they get to the goal line one of the backs could run it in, but I don't see a NE having a big day yardage wise.For this week and my teams, I don't have bye week issues and don't have injury issues (knock on wood), so in my case I wouldn't start BJGE. Others looking for a meh RB2 option or decent flex option might not have better options. He's not a terrible choice, as he stands a decent chance of getting a cheap TD. Maroney got a bunch of those last year and made him fantasy relevant. I do think the Pats will go back to Taylor and BJGE time share when Taylor comes back if he's healthy.I'm more interested to see if BAL will dare the Pats to go over the top of the defense and load up on short zones/double cover Welker.
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