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*** NEW ENGLAND v OAKLAND - GAME THREAD *** (2 Viewers)
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Brewdude
Footballguy
He's my QB in two leagues and I'm beginning to think you are right. Not impressed so far. Passes have been off target and if not for a great catch by Moss, Collins' stats are pretty blah. Not what I expected from him.I have Vick in one league and Brooks/Pennington to back him up in another. Could be a long year for me at QB.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
In other news:The Raiders have scored 9 less points with an extra possession.
Hellfire Snail
Footballguy
Collins had nowhere to go tonight but up. He had a great first half, and now NE is doing what they do to everybody. Does Manning suck because he gets eaten alive by the Pats? Give me a break. Collins might not be the greatest QB in the league, but with this offense he is top 5, it's that simple.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Collins throwing to Whitted twice on that last drive. 3 WR sets I think Porter is out there but not getting open.Collins looks dumb as a box of rocks. Not suprised about that.
Moss is letting NE Dbs knock the ball out of his hands. Seen that twice now. NE Dbs making good plays but I think Moss could try harder. He probobly is too unsure where Collins ball placement will be coz it is somewhat erratic. Definitly not crisp like Culpepper.
NE wrs must be hurting a lot for Whitted to be in there.
Troy Brown playing too much. Givens must be hurting too.
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
This is a good week to trade for Collins, by the way. Decent game against the Pats, something Manning can't even do, but people are going to react badly to it.He's going to be fine.
catcountry
Footballguy
What a bull#### personal foul call on the Raiders.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
top 5 what are you drinking
GreedoShotFirst
Footballguy
that's now 69 total yards and a TD for Dillon. Not bad for someone who suxor 
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Flizzag.Dillon time.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Moss making a play = luck?
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Let's not forget that awe inspiring 2.0 YPCHe's definite looking like Bettis 2004.that's now 69 total yards and a TD for Dillon. Not bad for someone who suxor
MSULions
Footballguy
apparently the same hooch Collins had at halftime.
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GreedoShotFirst
Footballguy
71 yards and 2 TDs for someone who suxor
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mojorizin
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Feel sorry for guys playing against Dillon. Nothing worse than a guy playing like a chump and scoring a couple TDs on ya.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Dillon gets 2 Yards per carry tonight but gets 2 short TD and 1 screen pass...75 yds and 2 TD? Geesh.
2 TDs!!!
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Nothing like letting fantasy scoring cloud your judgment of in game performance.71 yards and 2 TDs for someone who suxor
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
he had a poor first half.i told someone this afternoon that i though the score would be 33 or 34 to 21 for the pats.
Bluesbomber
Footballguy
1 more drive with NE eating clock and Dillon has a nice yardage night . Already an excellent td and recieving night with the 25 yard reception IMO.
GreedoShotFirst
Footballguy
nothing like deciding that a guy sucks after one bad half of play.Nothing like letting fantasy scoring cloud your judgment of in game performance.71 yards and 2 TDs for someone who suxor
brednbuddah
Footballguy
NE D has a way of making a QB look that way, just ask Manning.edit for spelling
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KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
THE RAIDERS ARE A TOP 5 OFFENSE THIS YEAR!Nice job NFL. Putting the defending champs against a bottom feeder from last year makes for a GREAT idea for the season opener.
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
It's close...
Hellfire Snail
Footballguy
The projections for this site you are posting on has Collins top five. You're flabbergasted by this? I think barring injury it is a certainty. Clearly Porter and Curry are not healthy tonight. When they are, you have one of the top recieving trios in the league, and Jordan who has proven he can catch passes. People don't like Collins, fine. His situation dictates elite stats.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
There's this thing called YPC that helps clarify rushing stats. Not all 70 rushing yard games are created equal.Those look like football stats that were used long before fantasy football was ever played.Nothing like letting fantasy scoring cloud your judgment of in game performance.71 yards and 2 TDs for someone who suxor
Jackal King
Footballguy
Nothing worse than when the RB your playing against gets the ball at the 1 because of pass interference in the end zone.
djcolts
Footballguy
Really? Maybe in terms of yards - but since they commit penalties every other play - that hurts their point production.THE RAIDERS ARE A TOP 5 OFFENSE THIS YEAR!Nice job NFL. Putting the defending champs against a bottom feeder from last year makes for a GREAT idea for the season opener.
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mojorizin
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You just know Mr. Al Davis was about to soil his 25 year old sweatsuit after the first 25 minutes of this game. Poor old *******.Edit: Actually, at his age he probably soiled the sweatsuit anyway....
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Bluesbomber
Footballguy
Now Collins pads his stats against the prevent.
I find it amazing that people are actually critisizing Collins tonight. He is up against a top 5 defense and hes going to post great stats! What is there to critisize about that?The projections for this site you are posting on has Collins top five. You're flabbergasted by this? I think barring injury it is a certainty. Clearly Porter and Curry are not healthy tonight. When they are, you have one of the top recieving trios in the league, and Jordan who has proven he can catch passes. People don't like Collins, fine. His situation dictates elite stats.
msommer
Footballguy
your league(s) give negative points for penalties?If not - penalties just make the field longer and a top 5 offense gets the yards they needReally? Maybe in terms of yards - but since they commit penalties every other play - that hurts their point production.THE RAIDERS ARE A TOP 5 OFFENSE THIS YEAR!Nice job NFL. Putting the defending champs against a bottom feeder from last year makes for a GREAT idea for the season opener.
(disclaimer - not sold on the Raiders yet - too little data)
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mojorizin
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I guess its a little late to ask for a Jani FG, huh?
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