RedmondLonghorn
Footballguy
How so? California Pizza Kitchen is far better than any pizza they have in NYC or Chicago. Unless that pizza is at a CPK location, of course.
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NY Style Pizza vs Chicago Pizza (1 Viewer)
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NCCommish
Footballguy
If you watch the videos they close with Chicago and NY teaming up to trash California pizza.
RedmondLonghorn
Footballguy
NCCommish
Footballguy
That isn't pizza. That some fru-fru crap on dough. Pizza is more down to earth than that. Proven by the classic pizza being simply basil, tomato and mozzarella or Pizza Margherita as enthusiasts know it.
CPK? 
that's more like a salad than pizza.
that's more like a salad than pizza.
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RedmondLonghorn
Footballguy
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
THE BLIGHT IS THE BEST PART!!!!!RedmondLonghorn said:
NCCommish
Footballguy
My go to is good old fashioned Pepperoni and Mushroom. With that said I have had some BBQ chicken pizza that was pretty good but you are pushing the line pretty hard at that point.
The Commish
Footballguy
Yeah...that's not pizza...that's salad on doughCPK?
RUSF18
Footballguy
Put whatever you want on a pizza. Toppings are awesome and there's some great combinations you can come up with. To me, a ziti slice is one of the best things on the planet.
But I wouldn't put that up against your favorite plain slice and try and make an argument that it is "better" than yours. They're entirely different foods. Just like deep dish and NY-style are different. If an alien shows up and you put both pies in front of it, there would be a lot of confusion that the two are the same thing.
But I wouldn't put that up against your favorite plain slice and try and make an argument that it is "better" than yours. They're entirely different foods. Just like deep dish and NY-style are different. If an alien shows up and you put both pies in front of it, there would be a lot of confusion that the two are the same thing.
RedmondLonghorn
Footballguy
C'mon. You can't really deny how superior it is.CPK?
RedmondLonghorn
Footballguy
If it doesn't have at least two (preferably three) of the following, it isn't pizza worth eating:My go to is good old fashioned Pepperoni and Mushroom. With that said I have had some BBQ chicken pizza that was pretty good but you are pushing the line pretty hard at that point.
1) pesto
2) chicken
3) goat cheese
4) argula
5) shaved fennel
6) sun-dried tomatoes
7) walnuts
8) garlic olive oil drizzle
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Eli's Hot Bagels
Pond Road Shopping Center
Rt. 9 Freehold.
If you get there before dawn and get one of the hot ones right out of the oven, you won't know whether to eat it or #### it, it's so beautiful.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
People that like 18 toppings on their pizza probably can't get good pizza. The toppings help obscure the fact that the pizza they're eating is dog s###.
Ookie Pringle
Footballguy
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RedmondLonghorn said:
Also, chicago blues is garbage. Was up there on business last year and had a buddy drag me out for their best BBQ (you gotta be kidding me) and the best blues joint in town (again, you gotta be kidding me). I actually talked to one of the guys in the band after the show (the only one who would get a starting gig on beale street) and talked about it. Blues scene there is garbage. :(
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Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
Chicago Pizza = casserole plan and simple
It tastes good, but its not pizza. I love danish and donuts too, but they arent the same things.
It tastes good, but its not pizza. I love danish and donuts too, but they arent the same things.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Chicago isn't pizza. Sorry.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
What you guys don't seem to understand is that if the pizza is truly excellent, toppings tend to obscure, rather than amplify that brilliance. Bacon and cheese are probably two of the most delicious things on earth, but if I go to Del Frisco's or Peter Luger, I'm not going to get a porterhouse and then ask them to pile bacon on it and smother it with cheese. Alternately, a good BLT is perfect as is and wouldn't be enhanced by sticking a 6 oz filet mignon in the middle of it.
When something is TRULY excellent, less really is more.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Truth. Going for some next week before a college basketball game. Wife and I love it. I've tried 1 slice of BBQ chicken and liked it, but haven't sought it out.
TLEF316
Footballguy
California Pizza Kitchen Goat cheese? Walnuts? arugula?
I got dragged there with the family a couple of weeks ago while visiting my brother down at college. A member of our party ordered one of their "pizzas". It had pears and a salad on top of it.
I was really in the mood for pizza that day, but I refused to order a "pizza" from CPK because then the terrorists win. I ordered some crappy pasta dish instead.
I'll give them credit for their appetizers. They had some spring rolls and dumplings (again, not something that should be on the menu at a "pizza" place) that were pretty tasty.
As far as toppings go, I think anything more than 2 (and even that's pushing it) is absurd. If there's a sauce on there other than tomato sauce (BBQ sauce, buffalo sauce, ect) it really isn't truly pizza anymore. It might be tasty, but its a different food.
Don't even get me started on white "pizza".
Fact: My father (born and raised in Queens) opened the first new york style pizza place in the state of Kansas when he was in graduate school. He and his roommate ran it lean and mean (lunch only, limited menu) and stole most of the dishes and silverware from other restaurants. It only lasted like 6 months. The locals didn't "get it".
Goat cheese? Walnuts? arugula? I got dragged there with the family a couple of weeks ago while visiting my brother down at college. A member of our party ordered one of their "pizzas". It had pears and a salad on top of it.
I was really in the mood for pizza that day, but I refused to order a "pizza" from CPK because then the terrorists win. I ordered some crappy pasta dish instead.
I'll give them credit for their appetizers. They had some spring rolls and dumplings (again, not something that should be on the menu at a "pizza" place) that were pretty tasty.
As far as toppings go, I think anything more than 2 (and even that's pushing it) is absurd. If there's a sauce on there other than tomato sauce (BBQ sauce, buffalo sauce, ect) it really isn't truly pizza anymore. It might be tasty, but its a different food.
Don't even get me started on white "pizza".
Fact: My father (born and raised in Queens) opened the first new york style pizza place in the state of Kansas when he was in graduate school. He and his roommate ran it lean and mean (lunch only, limited menu) and stole most of the dishes and silverware from other restaurants. It only lasted like 6 months. The locals didn't "get it".
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Amused to Death
Footballguy
Don't think of the Buffalo chicken as 'pizza'. Much like the Chicago deep dish, its not pizza but its still good.
EG, I know you've posted before about your Jersey past (Seaside boardwalk)...ever have DeLorenzo's Trenton tomato pie?
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Evilgrin 72
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Just to clarify further, I'm not trying to take a crunch on buffalo chicken pizza or BBQ chicken pizza. Taste is a subjective thing. Someone saying : "I ate a slice of buffalo chicken pizza and I liked it" is not a statement that can be disputed.
What I'm saying is that if you order a buffalo chicken pie and a plain pie from the same pizzeria and you prefer the chicken pie to the plain pie? Then it's likely that the pizza is dog s###.
I had a friend in Utah that I brought with me to NYC on one of trips back, he'd never been there before. First thing he wanted to do was get real NYC pizza. I went to take a whiz and when I got back, he'd ordered a broccoli and chicken slice. I cursed myself for leaving him alone. Half way through it, he finally said what he was thinking the whole time he was eating it : "I don't see what all the fuss is about." I calmly explained his ordering mistake and sent him back to the counter to fetch himself a plain slice. He came back, took one bite.....and a look came over his face. He smiled at me, voraciously took another bite, nodded, swallowed and then said to me : "NOW I get it...."
What I'm saying is that if you order a buffalo chicken pie and a plain pie from the same pizzeria and you prefer the chicken pie to the plain pie? Then it's likely that the pizza is dog s###.
I had a friend in Utah that I brought with me to NYC on one of trips back, he'd never been there before. First thing he wanted to do was get real NYC pizza. I went to take a whiz and when I got back, he'd ordered a broccoli and chicken slice. I cursed myself for leaving him alone. Half way through it, he finally said what he was thinking the whole time he was eating it : "I don't see what all the fuss is about." I calmly explained his ordering mistake and sent him back to the counter to fetch himself a plain slice. He came back, took one bite.....and a look came over his face. He smiled at me, voraciously took another bite, nodded, swallowed and then said to me : "NOW I get it...."
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Agreed, hopefully my last post helps to further clarify what I meant. And hell yes I have - I find them to be delicious. For the record, I also love Chicago style deep dish. LOVE it. It truly is just a different animal and comparing it to NY style pizza is kind of absurd.
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RedmondLonghorn
Footballguy
Clearly you don't understand greatness.
California Pizza Kitchen
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I grew up in Monmouth County, Eli's is quality...
I work close to Murray's on 6th Ave... Bagels are amazing, possibly the best I've ever had - lox there are out of this world too!
RUSF18
Footballguy
I know all about Eli's (although it's been years since I've been there) and it's exactly the type of NJ bagel that I think kicks the #### out of the vast majority of NYC bagels. Bagel World further up on 9 is pretty awesome too, same with their Marlboro location.
RUSF18
Footballguy
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
This pizza debate jumped the shark when California Pizza Kitchen entered the convo...
This debate is about dough, cheese, & sauce, not how much #### you can put on the actual pizza.
Speaking of which, do they make Nutella pizzas outside of New York? I had the greatest Nutella pizza ever last month , which is pretty much crispy dough, bananas, powdered sugar & Nutella - best pizza style desert ever!!
This debate is about dough, cheese, & sauce, not how much #### you can put on the actual pizza.
Speaking of which, do they make Nutella pizzas outside of New York? I had the greatest Nutella pizza ever last month , which is pretty much crispy dough, bananas, powdered sugar & Nutella - best pizza style desert ever!!
RedmondLonghorn
Footballguy
Clearly you have never enjoyed the brilliance of the pear, goat cheese, arugula and walnut on gluten-free dough.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
RedmondLonghorn
Footballguy
You sound like one of those rubes who thinks pizza should have a red sauce on it.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Nobody on Earth brings salad fennel apricot pizza into a NY/Chi pizza debate, so I have to assume you're
TheIronSheik
SUPER ELITE UPPER TIER
I remember I was talking with some lady and she told me she didn't see the big deal about New York pizza. She said it tasted no different than the pizza she got out in Indiana. I was floored. As we went deeper into the conversation, she said she got a pizza from Domino's while in New York and it tasted exactly like the pizza she gets at her local Domino's in Indiana.
Arizona Ron
Footballguy
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Never had CPK, but I think arugula on pizza is fantastic. Arugula on damn near anything is fantastic.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Bagel World kicks ### too. I grew up walking distance from Eli's, so that was always my go to. Stopped off back in May and grabbed a salt and a garlic on my way to Great Adventure from NYC - first time I've had one in about 11 years and it was just delightful.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Good God. Reminds me of Michael Scott in the "Office" episode where they send him to corporate and he's talking about how he can't wait to get a slice at his "favorite NY pizza joint" and then they show him going into the Sbarro across the street from MSG.
I remember I was talking with some lady and she told me she didn't see the big deal about New York pizza. She said it tasted no different than the pizza she got out in Indiana. I was floored. As we went deeper into the conversation, she said she got a pizza from Domino's while in New York and it tasted exactly like the pizza she gets at her local Domino's in Indiana.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Freehold - knew tons of people in Marlboro as well, though. How old are you, or what year did you graduate MHS? Maybe I know you too (as I found out I sort-of know RUSF18)?
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Good God. Reminds me of Michael Scott in the "Office" episode where they send him to corporate and he's talking about how he can't wait to get a slice at his "favorite NY pizza joint" and then they show him going into the Sbarro across the street from MSG.
great scene - this scenario describes that to a T
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Never mind, you're way too young (lucky b##tard) unless you also went to/worked at Briar Hill Day Camp. I know a ton of people in the '89 class and a lot in the '92 class as well.
RedmondLonghorn
Footballguy
Trolling?Nobody on Earth brings salad fennel apricot pizza into a NY/Chi pizza debate, so I have to assume you're
Never.
TheIronSheik
SUPER ELITE UPPER TIER
Jesus. I'm guessing that means that she's not the only idiot who's done that.Good God. Reminds me of Michael Scott in the "Office" episode where they send him to corporate and he's talking about how he can't wait to get a slice at his "favorite NY pizza joint" and then they show him going into the Sbarro across the street from MSG.
I remember I was talking with some lady and she told me she didn't see the big deal about New York pizza. She said it tasted no different than the pizza she got out in Indiana. I was floored. As we went deeper into the conversation, she said she got a pizza from Domino's while in New York and it tasted exactly like the pizza she gets at her local Domino's in Indiana.
Chaka
Footballguy
Bring it. We know it comes out of your jealousy and we don't judge you negatively for it.
