NY Super Bowl, still a good idea? (1 Viewer)

[Raiderfan32904]

There’s a Nor’easter coming on. It’s going to be a mess up in NYC/Boston area. Think back to last May when the NFL announced they would have the 2014 Super Bowl in NYC. A lot of people got very excited about the Super Bowl getting back to its “roots”. But it’s funny how those people were likely not even born to remember them. The “roots” of the game, back when Championships were played in ice and snow, back when “Heidi” had enough pull to pre-empt an NFL game, back when the Championship Game wouldn’t even sell out, and when it only enjoyed a regional uptick in the TV ratings….was nothing to wax rhapsodic about.

The NFL/AFL merger was a huge boon to the NFL, and should be given the most credit, But moving the Super Bowl to a warm weather climate has been a big part of what has made this game grow into much more than just a game, but a worldwide event, and on par with cultural holidays in this country. The Super Bowl is the single biggest TV event in any given year. The game has grown exponentially and the NFL has made a series of excellent decisions, one of which is correctly choosing warm weather climates to showcase the NFL Championship game.

This year, we had 2 weather events that caused unprecedented changes to NFL games. One was the collapse of the Metrodome roof that led to a bizarre ice bowl game in a college stadium. Then we had a game postponed for 2 days in Philadelphia because of a blizzard. That led the mayor of Philadelphia buying a seat next to him at the game and protesting with a big snow pile. He campaigned against the “wussifcation” of America. But his voice fell on deaf ears, as the NFL correctly shelved this game for better conditions.

Now let’s just imagine (since it’s the same time frame), that the Super Bowl in 2014 is dealing with a Nor’easter like this one? What if the Super Bowl were postponed till the next Tuesday night? What would be the ripple effect on the local economy? What of the playing conditions that would be treacherous to play on? What of the delays to airlines and cancelled flights? What happens to the TV schedule?

Why does the NFL gamble on a game of this magnitude, where TV spots sell in the millions and cost as much or more per 30 seconds? For people to watch on a Tuesday night? How many people are going to have a Super Bowl party on a Tuesday?

Having a Super Bowl in the middle of a weather pattern known for having blizzard conditions is one of many recent bad decisions, among others such as next year’s potential lockout, and/or expanded schedule.

 

[RUSF18]

There’s a Nor’easter coming on. It’s going to be a mess up in NYC/Boston area. Think back to last May when the NFL announced they would have the 2014 Super Bowl in NYC. A lot of people got very excited about the Super Bowl getting back to its “roots”. But it’s funny how those people were likely not even born to remember them. The “roots” of the game, back when Championships were played in ice and snow, back when “Heidi” had enough pull to pre-empt an NFL game, back when the Championship Game wouldn’t even sell out, and when it only enjoyed a regional uptick in the TV ratings….was nothing to wax rhapsodic about.

The NFL/AFL merger was a huge boon to the NFL, and should be given the most credit, But moving the Super Bowl to a warm weather climate has been a big part of what has made this game grow into much more than just a game, but a worldwide event, and on par with cultural holidays in this country. The Super Bowl is the single biggest TV event in any given year. The game has grown exponentially and the NFL has made a series of excellent decisions, one of which is correctly choosing warm weather climates to showcase the NFL Championship game.

This year, we had 2 weather events that caused unprecedented changes to NFL games. One was the collapse of the Metrodome roof that led to a bizarre ice bowl game in a college stadium. Then we had a game postponed for 2 days in Philadelphia because of a blizzard. That led the mayor of Philadelphia buying a seat next to him at the game and protesting with a big snow pile. He campaigned against the “wussifcation” of America. But his voice fell on deaf ears, as the NFL correctly shelved this game for better conditions.

Now let’s just imagine (since it’s the same time frame), that the Super Bowl in 2014 is dealing with a Nor’easter like this one? What if the Super Bowl were postponed till the next Tuesday night? What would be the ripple effect on the local economy? What of the playing conditions that would be treacherous to play on? What of the delays to airlines and cancelled flights? What happens to the TV schedule?

Why does the NFL gamble on a game of this magnitude, where TV spots sell in the millions and cost as much or more per 30 seconds? For people to watch on a Tuesday night? How many people are going to have a Super Bowl party on a Tuesday?

Having a Super Bowl in the middle of a weather pattern known for having blizzard conditions is one of many recent bad decisions, among others such as next year’s potential lockout, and/or expanded schedule.

The bolded isn't what happened.Beyond that...you brought up two instances of weather impacting football. Notice that one of those was in a dome? Sure it's a different type of dome but it doesn't mean that in Indy for example, weather may not affect the playing of the game in some form or another. Additionally, you just had two conference championship games that were played in brutally cold but dry weather and everyone loved it. Even though we're currently faced with some crazy weather, the odds of such an even falling on that exact date in 2014 are minuscule.

 

[omahabrad]

Since I'll most likely never be able to afford to go to a Super Bowl, I didn't really care that much where it's held. It's football, weather plays a factor in regular season games and playoff games, why not the Super Bowl. Weather is part of the game and true fans shouldn't care. My personal opinion is that the Super Bowl should be rotated among all 32 cities that support a NFL franchise.

 

[JbizzleMan]

I don't like the idea of weather playing a factor in the Super Bowl. It should only be played in domes or warm weather cities. Two teams player their ##### off all year to get to the big game. Let them battle it out on as level playing field as possible.

 

[Disc Shark]

Holding the Super Bowl in an outdoor stadium up north is a foolish idea.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I don't like the idea of weather playing a factor in the Super Bowl. It should only be played in domes or warm weather cities. Two teams player their ##### off all year to get to the big game. Let them battle it out on as level playing field as possible.

Is only one of the teams playing in the bad weather?

 

[Mario Kart]

The Super Bowl should never be held in New York for much of the reasons that were stated in the OP. The Super Bowl should be held in Green Bay though.

 

[Amused to Death]

The Super Bowl should never be held in New York for much of the reasons that were stated in the OP. The Super Bowl should be held in Green Bay though.

The Super Bowl will never be held in New York unless its Buffalo. 2014 will be in NJ.

 

[Premier]

it was never a good idea.

I remember the Seattle fan here on these boards a few years ago that was excited that his team finally made the Super Bowl........until he realized he was going to be in Detroit in February for four days. Ugh.

The game should be in warm, fun locales.

 

[trader jake]

Since I'll most likely never be able to afford to go to a Super Bowl, I didn't really care that much where it's held. It's football, weather plays a factor in regular season games and playoff games, why not the Super Bowl. Weather is part of the game and true fans shouldn't care. My personal opinion is that the Super Bowl should be rotated among all 32 cities that support a NFL franchise.

When the Super Bowl was in Atlanta the weather wasn't great and for a week we listened to media members complain. When the Super Bowl was in Detroit the weather wasn't great and for a week we listened to media members complain (even with the game being played indoors).The Super Bowl is in Dallas and the weather doesn't look great and for a week we'll listen to the media members complain.It's not a vacation, it's the Super Bowl. Nobody worries about the conference championship games being messed with due to weather and they shouldn't worry about the Super Bowl either. In the end things not related to the game could be effected if planning is poor, but how is that different than any other location? It's time for the media to shut up about the weather already.

 

[Premier]

Since I'll most likely never be able to afford to go to a Super Bowl, I didn't really care that much where it's held. It's football, weather plays a factor in regular season games and playoff games, why not the Super Bowl. Weather is part of the game and true fans shouldn't care. My personal opinion is that the Super Bowl should be rotated among all 32 cities that support a NFL franchise.

When the Super Bowl was in Atlanta the weather wasn't great and for a week we listened to media members complain. When the Super Bowl was in Detroit the weather wasn't great and for a week we listened to media members complain (even with the game being played indoors).The Super Bowl is in Dallas and the weather doesn't look great and for a week we'll listen to the media members complain.It's not a vacation, it's the Super Bowl. Nobody worries about the conference championship games being messed with due to weather and they shouldn't worry about the Super Bowl either. In the end things not related to the game could be effected if planning is poor, but how is that different than any other location? It's time for the media to shut up about the weather already.

Of course it's a vacation for tens of thousands of fans. What on earth are you talking about?

 

[RUSF18]

I don't like the idea of weather playing a factor in the Super Bowl. It should only be played in domes or warm weather cities. Two teams player their ##### off all year to get to the big game. Let them battle it out on as level playing field as possible.

Why are you punishing teams who build their rosters/style to deal with the playing conditions that they're required to play in for most of the season?

 

[trader jake]

Since I'll most likely never be able to afford to go to a Super Bowl, I didn't really care that much where it's held. It's football, weather plays a factor in regular season games and playoff games, why not the Super Bowl. Weather is part of the game and true fans shouldn't care. My personal opinion is that the Super Bowl should be rotated among all 32 cities that support a NFL franchise.

When the Super Bowl was in Atlanta the weather wasn't great and for a week we listened to media members complain. When the Super Bowl was in Detroit the weather wasn't great and for a week we listened to media members complain (even with the game being played indoors).The Super Bowl is in Dallas and the weather doesn't look great and for a week we'll listen to the media members complain.It's not a vacation, it's the Super Bowl. Nobody worries about the conference championship games being messed with due to weather and they shouldn't worry about the Super Bowl either. In the end things not related to the game could be effected if planning is poor, but how is that different than any other location? It's time for the media to shut up about the weather already.

Of course it's a vacation for tens of thousands of fans. What on earth are you talking about?

I'm talking about what's important and when people choose to attend the Super Bowl the weather is way down the list of things they care about. How many of those fans are NOT attending due to the weather? Yeah, almost none. If their team is in it and they can afford it, they go whether it's in Miami, Dallas, or New York. If it's all about the weather the Pro Bowl would be packed every year. People attend the Super Bowl to be apart of the biggest sporting event the US has to offer, not to sit on a beach.

 

[RUSF18]

Since I'll most likely never be able to afford to go to a Super Bowl, I didn't really care that much where it's held. It's football, weather plays a factor in regular season games and playoff games, why not the Super Bowl. Weather is part of the game and true fans shouldn't care. My personal opinion is that the Super Bowl should be rotated among all 32 cities that support a NFL franchise.

When the Super Bowl was in Atlanta the weather wasn't great and for a week we listened to media members complain. When the Super Bowl was in Detroit the weather wasn't great and for a week we listened to media members complain (even with the game being played indoors).The Super Bowl is in Dallas and the weather doesn't look great and for a week we'll listen to the media members complain.It's not a vacation, it's the Super Bowl. Nobody worries about the conference championship games being messed with due to weather and they shouldn't worry about the Super Bowl either. In the end things not related to the game could be effected if planning is poor, but how is that different than any other location? It's time for the media to shut up about the weather already.

Of course it's a vacation for tens of thousands of fans. What on earth are you talking about?

I think the point is that if you go to the Bahamas for 5 days and it rains constantly or there's a hurricane, your vacation is pretty much ruined. If the pool at your hotel suddenly needs to be closed to deal with an issue, it's an inconvenience but you have the beach and the water and the relaxing, so your trip will be salvaged. If you go to the Super Bowl and there's a storm, maybe it is more annoying to get to the surrounding events or you have to deal with sitting in cold weather but you're still experiencing the Super Bowl.

 

[shadyridr]

Who gives a crap really? Its one year. If it doesnt work out they wont do it again

 

[steelcityman]

Since I'll most likely never be able to afford to go to a Super Bowl, I didn't really care that much where it's held. It's football, weather plays a factor in regular season games and playoff games, why not the Super Bowl. Weather is part of the game and true fans shouldn't care. My personal opinion is that the Super Bowl should be rotated among all 32 cities that support a NFL franchise.

I agree. If its raining, both teams are playing in the rain, if it snows, sunny, hot or cold, its 2 teams, one field.

And I dont think I will ever go to a super bowl. I've had my chances to see my team, and didnt go to the game.

I dont agree that every city should get it, simply because a city like Pittsburgh or Buffalo or Cincy, couldnt handle the people. Detriot was not good. Minny wouldnt be nice, or Green Bay. Great football towns, but not ideal for mass media and fans. Remember jacksonville, people were sleeping on cruise ships.

I say Miami, New Orleans, Rose Bowl, maybe someplace in Texas and thats about it. Big stadiums, in cities that can/have handled the bowl before.

To Jerry Jones: If you build it, we will come. GO STEELERS!!!

 

[Bri]

Since the NFL is acting as if the game will be in MSG, I will do the same.

The NY Supe will be all about precedent setting.

NFL gets it's biggest showcase close to millions of businesses-worldwide businesses that camp out on Wall Street. It's not that people don't know of the Super Bowl, but that they haven't necessarily experienced the impact of it all-the crazy fans, the advertising reach, the...everything. NY offers the NFL a wonderful opportunity.

NYC has a ton of people and God Bless Em' they are some of the most opinionated people on this earth. I love it, some hate it. Nonetheless, the sheer population being impressed will do wonders for the NFL.

NY overdoes everything and redefines excess so whatever you think has been over the top for a Supe, expect that to be surpassed in some way. IIRC the World's Fair was once held near the Jets old training camp site and there is still a monument to the craziness that went on then.

I grew up in NJ going to NYC often. I had tons of family all around the city and was often there. I have only been back to NYC twice since a few months after 9/11. I've come across a ton of people that are similar. I think the Supe will bring some of these people back.

Pick an issue that's been discussed with a previous supe:

Gambling? There's a casino not far in CT and AC is 5? hours away. With a big game, that's sure to come up too.

(If we are going to truly consider it NJ, then Philly isn't all that far either)

Hookers and such were noted for an Atlanta Supe years ago right? Yeah I expect that to be discussed too.

Lombardi play is on Broadway now? There's a leap to expect that then.

American history? Geesh NYC is loaded with it.

Mass transit-pretty sure NYC is already precedent setting with this, but let's see what ideas come up from the Supe.

NYC has some of the best food in the world and from every ethnicity. I would not be shocked if NYC companies start exporting more food after the Supe.

It doesn't really matter what it is you've got some of the biggest business people with billions of dollars, millions of people and a platform to actually do something. It might not come back to NYC for 20 years, but it's going to be HUGE.

Having lived in Oklahoma where the states are normal size and nothing like the north east. If you guys stop and think for a sec how small the states are near NY, a NY Supe really puts a slew of teams (relatively) nearby. Foxboro is like four hours away. Buffalo is 6-8 depending on ...well a lot. Pennsylvania is close.

I think it's awesome when fan bases travel far to support their teams. Some of the currently best NFL teams are already near NY. I'm sure they'll appreciate that they can get there if they want to without too much of a production.

Maybe this is the big point- NYC doesn't need to do anything special for the Supe. They are ready everyday to serve millions of people in so many different industries. Everything is already in place. However, they will put on a show and "do it up" and ...I can only imagine.

 

[Bri]

I think the point is that if you go to the Bahamas for 5 days and it rains constantly or there's a hurricane, your vacation is pretty much ruined. If the pool at your hotel suddenly needs to be closed to deal with an issue, it's an inconvenience but you have the beach and the water and the relaxing, so your trip will be salvaged. If you go to the Super Bowl and there's a storm, maybe it is more annoying to get to the surrounding events or you have to deal with sitting in cold weather but you're still experiencing the Super Bowl.

It won't be miserable like going to a Buffalo game in late December. I have no idea what they will do for the fans, but there is no way the NFL and.or NY/NJ governors let this be a miserably cold event. Portable heaters? I don't know that seems like a fire hazard. They'll do something though.That roof in Minny was inflatable right? Eh well I don't know what they'll come up with, but there is no way the Mara's and Goodell haven't already begun discussing how to make it an enjoyable experience.I had the privilege to speak with someone working on the committee for the current Supe in Dallas and you wouldn't believe the amount of prep work that goes into this. It is so well thought out and they spend years on it. They'll be ready in NY. I am confident of that.

 

[Bri]

To Jerry Jones: If you build it, we will come. GO STEELERS!!!

There's voting and a whole masquerade that goes on, but I truly believe that owners go to NFL execs and want the promise of a Supe if they build a new stadium. I think it's that simple.That's not to say Dallas and NYC aren't great places that should host a Supe, I just think the voting is a farce.

 

[Cenobite]

Pick an issue that's been discussed with a previous supe:Gambling? There's a casino not far in CT and AC is 5? hours away. With a big game, that's sure to come up too. (If we are going to truly consider it NJ, then Philly isn't all that far either)Hookers and such were noted for an Atlanta Supe years ago right? Yeah I expect that to be discussed too.Lombardi play is on Broadway now? There's a leap to expect that then.American history? Geesh NYC is loaded with it.Maybe this is the big point- NYC doesn't need to do anything special for the Supe. They are ready everyday to serve millions of people in so many different industries. Everything is already in place. However, they will put on a show and "do it up" and ...I can only imagine.

Good post! Btw, AC is less than 3 hrs. away. Football was meant to be played outside in the cold. Your team has to deal with the elements and not a climate controlled setting with immaculate turf. I want another ice bowl. A f'n blizzard during the game. It's a tough game for tough players. Each team has to dig in deeper and find their inner strength against the opponent and weather conditions. I want to see steam coming from the players' helmets and their facial hair frozen. Hey, but that just me.

 

[CrossEyed]

Never understood why people have no problem with 3 weeks of playoffs being held in whatever weather comes along, but then want the SB to be played in "ideal conditions". Weather is part of football.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

We can argue the entertainment value of cold vs warm weather Super Bowls, and it will be a good mix of fans on either side, I suppose. I prefer hot tanned chicks in bikinis and SB parties that feature less clothing, not more. But I can see how some would like to watch bald headed 300 pound men with steam plumes off their noggin. But then I digress.

What if the game were postponed to Tuesday? What if you bought your tix a year in advance, booked the expensive hotel rooms, and now you have to wait a few extra days? What would it do to your SB party plans that have become a tradition in this country? How many of them are cancelled outright?

As well planned and meticulous as the NFL is, they have no power over Mother Nature.

 

[Amused to Death]

I'm curious to see if it impacts the 45 minute half time extravaganza. What kind of show will they plan? February at 8pm in New Jersey can be very cold. Let's face it, from a broadcasting standpoint the Super Bowl stopped being about the game long ago. Its the commercials and the half time show that's promoted more then anything.

 

[Amused to Death]

We can argue the entertainment value of cold vs warm weather Super Bowls, and it will be a good mix of fans on either side, I suppose. I prefer hot tanned chicks in bikinis and SB parties that feature less clothing, not more. But I can see how some would like to watch bald headed 300 pound men with steam plumes off their noggin. But then I digress.What if the game were postponed to Tuesday? What if you bought your tix a year in advance, booked the expensive hotel rooms, and now you have to wait a few extra days? What would it do to your SB party plans that have become a tradition in this country? How many of them are cancelled outright?As well planned and meticulous as the NFL is, they have no power over Mother Nature.

My guess is they would never be able to post pone it. Too much money involved all the way around.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Yes it should be played in NYC, and all other cities for that matter. It's football, who cares about the weather? Some whining in here like the media sissies who want free trips to Miami every year. Suck it up.

 

[Cenobite]

We can argue the entertainment value of cold vs warm weather Super Bowls, and it will be a good mix of fans on either side, I suppose. I prefer hot tanned chicks in bikinis and SB parties that feature less clothing, not more. But I can see how some would like to watch bald headed 300 pound men with steam plumes off their noggin. But then I digress.What if the game were postponed to Tuesday? What if you bought your tix a year in advance, booked the expensive hotel rooms, and now you have to wait a few extra days? What would it do to your SB party plans that have become a tradition in this country? How many of them are cancelled outright?As well planned and meticulous as the NFL is, they have no power over Mother Nature.

Postpone it? The only way it gets postponed if lives are in jeapardy. If some disaster hits, earthquakes (Calif.), hurricanes (Katrina/Andrew), and extreme blizzards, then games get postponed - not because of snow or cold weather.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Postpone it? The only way it gets postponed if lives are in jeapardy. If some disaster hits, earthquakes (Calif.), hurricanes (Katrina/Andrew), and extreme blizzards, then games get postponed - not because of snow or cold weather.

I used to think that was unlikely, but they postponed that game in Philly this year over a blizzard. In that case, it ended up being a near miss. If the equivalent of a winter hurricane bears down on New York at just before kickoff, you don't think they might suspend the game? I do. No matter how much money is on the line. In any case, a precedent has already been set.

 

[humpback]

Never understood why people have no problem with 3 weeks of playoffs being held in whatever weather comes along, but then want the SB to be played in "ideal conditions". Weather is part of football.

There is supposed to be an advantage to higher ranked teams in the playoffs- they get to play at home under conditions they are more used to and prepared for. There isn't supposed to be any advantage in the Super Bowl, and warm weather/dome conditions are much more neutral.

 

[CrossEyed]

Never understood why people have no problem with 3 weeks of playoffs being held in whatever weather comes along, but then want the SB to be played in "ideal conditions". Weather is part of football.

There is supposed to be an advantage to higher ranked teams in the playoffs- they get to play at home under conditions they are more used to and prepared for. There isn't supposed to be any advantage in the Super Bowl, and warm weather/dome conditions are much more neutral.

Wouldn't a warm weather/dome SB be an advantage to a warm weather/dome team?

 

[omahabrad]

Never understood why people have no problem with 3 weeks of playoffs being held in whatever weather comes along, but then want the SB to be played in "ideal conditions". Weather is part of football.

There is supposed to be an advantage to higher ranked teams in the playoffs- they get to play at home under conditions they are more used to and prepared for. There isn't supposed to be any advantage in the Super Bowl, and warm weather/dome conditions are much more neutral.

They both play in the same weather conditions. If a team is in such a disadvantage by playing in bad weather vs ideal weather, outside vs dome or on grass vs field turf, I would consider that team not a Super Bowl caliber team. The same could be said for teams that are only built to play in cold weather.

 

[humpback]

Never understood why people have no problem with 3 weeks of playoffs being held in whatever weather comes along, but then want the SB to be played in "ideal conditions". Weather is part of football.

There is supposed to be an advantage to higher ranked teams in the playoffs- they get to play at home under conditions they are more used to and prepared for. There isn't supposed to be any advantage in the Super Bowl, and warm weather/dome conditions are much more neutral.

Wouldn't a warm weather/dome SB be an advantage to a warm weather/dome team?

Not nearly as much as a bad weather game would be to a bad weather team.In any event, I'm just saying why there's a difference between the playoffs and the SB- the playoffs have seedings and advantages are given to the higher seeds. That isn't the case in the Super Bowl, so they try to make it as neutral as possible.

 

[Cenobite]

Postpone it? The only way it gets postponed if lives are in jeapardy. If some disaster hits, earthquakes (Calif.), hurricanes (Katrina/Andrew), and extreme blizzards, then games get postponed - not because of snow or cold weather.

I used to think that was unlikely, but they postponed that game in Philly this year over a blizzard. In that case, it ended up being a near miss. If the equivalent of a winter hurricane bears down on New York at just before kickoff, you don't think they might suspend the game? I do. No matter how much money is on the line. In any case, a precedent has already been set.

I expected that reference. They postponed the game in Philly primarily because of the cars being stuck in the parking lots while the game was being played and the main arteries not being cleared. Rest assured, if there was a blizzard of epic proportions on SB Sunday they would have crews to effectively handle the snow removal. The money generated by the event more than covers the cost for snow removal in and around the stadium. I would be more concerned with earthquakes in Calif. than a blizzard in NY/NJ. I think public schools have been closed a total of 3x in 10 years in NY. No, the SB won't ever get postponed because of the amount of snow. There is enough manpower to deal with it effectively as money can solve the problem of snow removal.

 

[RUSF18]

I expected that reference. They postponed the game in Philly primarily because of the cars being stuck in the parking lots while the game was being played and the main arteries not being cleared. Rest assured, if there was a blizzard of epic proportions on SB Sunday they would have crews to effectively handle the snow removal. The money generated by the event more than covers the cost for snow removal in and around the stadium. I would be more concerned with earthquakes in Calif. than a blizzard in NY/NJ. I think public schools have been closed a total of 3x in 10 years in NY. No, the SB won't ever get postponed because of the amount of snow. There is enough manpower to deal with it effectively as money can solve the problem of snow removal.

NYC public school closings are entirely different than northern NJ closings.

 

[RBM]

NY Super Bowl = Horrible idea

NJ Super Bowl = Cant wait

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Postpone it? The only way it gets postponed if lives are in jeapardy. If some disaster hits, earthquakes (Calif.), hurricanes (Katrina/Andrew), and extreme blizzards, then games get postponed - not because of snow or cold weather.

I used to think that was unlikely, but they postponed that game in Philly this year over a blizzard. In that case, it ended up being a near miss. If the equivalent of a winter hurricane bears down on New York at just before kickoff, you don't think they might suspend the game? I do. No matter how much money is on the line. In any case, a precedent has already been set.

I expected that reference. They postponed the game in Philly primarily because of the cars being stuck in the parking lots while the game was being played and the main arteries not being cleared. Rest assured, if there was a blizzard of epic proportions on SB Sunday they would have crews to effectively handle the snow removal. The money generated by the event more than covers the cost for snow removal in and around the stadium. I would be more concerned with earthquakes in Calif. than a blizzard in NY/NJ. I think public schools have been closed a total of 3x in 10 years in NY. No, the SB won't ever get postponed because of the amount of snow. There is enough manpower to deal with it effectively as money can solve the problem of snow removal.

You yourself said in a previous post that an extreme blizzard potentially could postpone the game. Which is it? Are you saying that there is a zero percent chance of that happening? I think that there is a decent chance, and especially around early February of this happening in the northeast. Why ask for this headache when there are sunny facilities down south that are made for Super Bowl?

 

[omahabrad]

I expected that reference. They postponed the game in Philly primarily because of the cars being stuck in the parking lots while the game was being played and the main arteries not being cleared. Rest assured, if there was a blizzard of epic proportions on SB Sunday they would have crews to effectively handle the snow removal. The money generated by the event more than covers the cost for snow removal in and around the stadium. I would be more concerned with earthquakes in Calif. than a blizzard in NY/NJ. I think public schools have been closed a total of 3x in 10 years in NY. No, the SB won't ever get postponed because of the amount of snow. There is enough manpower to deal with it effectively as money can solve the problem of snow removal.

NYC public school closings are entirely different than northern NJ closings.

I think the point is they are more likely to cancel school than the Super Bowl. Since school in NY has only been canceled 3 times in the last ten years, odds are that the Super Bowl wont be canceled.

 

[Cenobite]

I expected that reference. They postponed the game in Philly primarily because of the cars being stuck in the parking lots while the game was being played and the main arteries not being cleared. Rest assured, if there was a blizzard of epic proportions on SB Sunday they would have crews to effectively handle the snow removal. The money generated by the event more than covers the cost for snow removal in and around the stadium. I would be more concerned with earthquakes in Calif. than a blizzard in NY/NJ. I think public schools have been closed a total of 3x in 10 years in NY. No, the SB won't ever get postponed because of the amount of snow. There is enough manpower to deal with it effectively as money can solve the problem of snow removal.

NYC public school closings are entirely different than northern NJ closings.

Point being? New York, with the exception of the 12/26 storm (slowdown), has effectively dealt with its highways and byways during storms and will go out of its way to ensure the routes to the stadium are cleared. NJ can deal with the the roadways leading to the stadium. It's not a problem that money cannot solve - and the SB generates a lot of money to the host City and surrounding areas. More than enough to deal with a blizzard. Mass transit delays in a blizzard? Sure. But the game will be played and people will have to be ready to leave for the game earlier. It could be an inconvenience to those attending the game but, hey, the game doesn't start until 6:30 p.m. So even if you have to leave in the morning, which most would do anyway, you will get there safely and with time to spare. Again, I am talking about a storm of epic proportions. Other than that, it is a non-issue.

 

[Cenobite]

Postpone it? The only way it gets postponed if lives are in jeapardy. If some disaster hits, earthquakes (Calif.), hurricanes (Katrina/Andrew), and extreme blizzards, then games get postponed - not because of snow or cold weather.

I used to think that was unlikely, but they postponed that game in Philly this year over a blizzard. In that case, it ended up being a near miss. If the equivalent of a winter hurricane bears down on New York at just before kickoff, you don't think they might suspend the game? I do. No matter how much money is on the line. In any case, a precedent has already been set.

I expected that reference. They postponed the game in Philly primarily because of the cars being stuck in the parking lots while the game was being played and the main arteries not being cleared. Rest assured, if there was a blizzard of epic proportions on SB Sunday they would have crews to effectively handle the snow removal. The money generated by the event more than covers the cost for snow removal in and around the stadium. I would be more concerned with earthquakes in Calif. than a blizzard in NY/NJ. I think public schools have been closed a total of 3x in 10 years in NY. No, the SB won't ever get postponed because of the amount of snow. There is enough manpower to deal with it effectively as money can solve the problem of snow removal.

You yourself said in a previous post that an extreme blizzard potentially could postpone the game. Which is it? Are you saying that there is a zero percent chance of that happening? I think that there is a decent chance, and especially around early February of this happening in the northeast. Why ask for this headache when there are sunny facilities down south that are made for Super Bowl?

I wrote that an extreme blizzard where lives were at stake would postpone a game. Not cold, not snow. We're talking high winds, lightning, ice, snow, frigid conditions that make sitting in the stands or getting to the game (assuming mass transit is out which it won't be) unsafe. There is more of a possibility of an earthquake happening in Calif. where SBs have been held, than having the game postponed purely because of the weather in NJ.

 

[Clarence the barber]

the NFL correctly shelved this game for better conditions.

Nice try, but no.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Mass transit delays in a blizzard? Sure. But the game will be played and people will have to be ready to leave for the game earlier. It could be an inconvenience to those attending the game but, hey, the game doesn't start until 6:30 p.m. So even if you have to leave in the morning, which most would do anyway, you will get there safely and with time to spare.

A blizzard is only an inconvenience for mass transit? I disagree. If it's the common man who is paying reasonable prices to see the game, then it's not a problem. Common man will happily go and freeze his balls off. But if you are paying $2K to $3K per ticket, likely you've set aside $20K-$30K for SB Week. For those bluebloods who can afford this, are they going to be happy trying to warm their bodies huddled in the overcrowded shops and restaurants at the stadium for 6-8 hours? That's what they would have to do to get there early, right? How satisfied are they going to be with their experience considering what they pay for it? I imagine the wealthy and connected will want to experience Super Bowl in style. They may still be able to experience the game, but those who have been to previous Super Bowls will no doubt be disappointed with amenities they are used to or feel entitled to. Why do I care about these people? I don't. I just want to point out that just because it is being played in a cold weather city, doesn't mean that the hard-core cold weather fans are going to be in the building.

 

[Amused to Death]

I expected that reference. They postponed the game in Philly primarily because of the cars being stuck in the parking lots while the game was being played and the main arteries not being cleared. Rest assured, if there was a blizzard of epic proportions on SB Sunday they would have crews to effectively handle the snow removal. The money generated by the event more than covers the cost for snow removal in and around the stadium. I would be more concerned with earthquakes in Calif. than a blizzard in NY/NJ. I think public schools have been closed a total of 3x in 10 years in NY. No, the SB won't ever get postponed because of the amount of snow. There is enough manpower to deal with it effectively as money can solve the problem of snow removal.

NYC public school closings are entirely different than northern NJ closings.

Point being? New York, with the exception of the 12/26 storm (slowdown), has effectively dealt with its highways and byways during storms and will go out of its way to ensure the routes to the stadium are cleared. NJ can deal with the the roadways leading to the stadium. It's not a problem that money cannot solve - and the SB generates a lot of money to the host City and surrounding areas. More than enough to deal with a blizzard. Mass transit delays in a blizzard? Sure. But the game will be played and people will have to be ready to leave for the game earlier. It could be an inconvenience to those attending the game but, hey, the game doesn't start until 6:30 p.m. So even if you have to leave in the morning, which most would do anyway, you will get there safely and with time to spare. Again, I am talking about a storm of epic proportions. Other than that, it is a non-issue.

New York has nothing to do with it. New Jersey on the other hand does. So does the Port Authority of NY/NJ, which maintains the area bridges and tunnels. Even the mass transit is NJTransit.The game would not be postponed. Way too much money is at stake.

 

[Sweet Love]

I expected that reference. They postponed the game in Philly primarily because of the cars being stuck in the parking lots while the game was being played and the main arteries not being cleared. Rest assured, if there was a blizzard of epic proportions on SB Sunday they would have crews to effectively handle the snow removal. The money generated by the event more than covers the cost for snow removal in and around the stadium. I would be more concerned with earthquakes in Calif. than a blizzard in NY/NJ. I think public schools have been closed a total of 3x in 10 years in NY. No, the SB won't ever get postponed because of the amount of snow. There is enough manpower to deal with it effectively as money can solve the problem of snow removal.

NYC public school closings are entirely different than northern NJ closings.

Point being? New York, with the exception of the 12/26 storm (slowdown), has effectively dealt with its highways and byways during storms and will go out of its way to ensure the routes to the stadium are cleared. NJ can deal with the the roadways leading to the stadium. It's not a problem that money cannot solve - and the SB generates a lot of money to the host City and surrounding areas. More than enough to deal with a blizzard. Mass transit delays in a blizzard? Sure. But the game will be played and people will have to be ready to leave for the game earlier. It could be an inconvenience to those attending the game but, hey, the game doesn't start until 6:30 p.m. So even if you have to leave in the morning, which most would do anyway, you will get there safely and with time to spare. Again, I am talking about a storm of epic proportions. Other than that, it is a non-issue.

New York has nothing to do with it. New Jersey on the other hand does. So does the Port Authority of NY/NJ, which maintains the area bridges and tunnels. Even the mass transit is NJTransit.The game would not be postponed. Way too much money is at stake.

Seriously...game is in NJ, which for someone who grew up in North NJ, is very different logistically and believe it or not, weather-wise (when it comes to snow), than NYC. The real point here that everyone is missing, is whether the guidettes will be able to pimp their hair out or not for the big event? The smallest amount of preciptitation could absoultely ruin the "experience" for the out-of-towner.

 

[RUSF18]

Mass transit delays in a blizzard? Sure. But the game will be played and people will have to be ready to leave for the game earlier. It could be an inconvenience to those attending the game but, hey, the game doesn't start until 6:30 p.m. So even if you have to leave in the morning, which most would do anyway, you will get there safely and with time to spare.

A blizzard is only an inconvenience for mass transit? I disagree. If it's the common man who is paying reasonable prices to see the game, then it's not a problem. Common man will happily go and freeze his balls off. But if you are paying $2K to $3K per ticket, likely you've set aside $20K-$30K for SB Week. For those bluebloods who can afford this, are they going to be happy trying to warm their bodies huddled in the overcrowded shops and restaurants at the stadium for 6-8 hours? That's what they would have to do to get there early, right? How satisfied are they going to be with their experience considering what they pay for it? I imagine the wealthy and connected will want to experience Super Bowl in style. They may still be able to experience the game, but those who have been to previous Super Bowls will no doubt be disappointed with amenities they are used to or feel entitled to. Why do I care about these people? I don't. I just want to point out that just because it is being played in a cold weather city, doesn't mean that the hard-core cold weather fans are going to be in the building.

I would think anybody shelling out their $20k for Super Bowl week wouldn't do so if they were worried about the weather. So they'll either be prepared for it, or they won't buy tickets, which frees up opportunity for the common man. As an NYC guy who will be 31 and isn't planning on having any kids when this Super Bowl comes around, I could see myself dropping a couple grand on a ticket knowing that it may be the only Super Bowl I ever have the chance to go to at a reasonable price. Not having to deal with flight/hotel is a huge cost-saver obviously, and I won't be interested in any of the other events...but seeing a Super Bowl in person would be pretty sweet.

 

[Bri]

Seriously...game is in NJ, which for someone who grew up in North NJ, is very different logistically and believe it or not, weather-wise (when it comes to snow), than NYC.

Cmon now you know your team's name isn't the NJ Jets.East Rutherford, Paterson, Paramus, Montvale or Ramsey, Suffern, Spring Valley--> all the way to NYC all this will become some sorta morphed version of Manhattan to everyone for a couple weeks. For two weeks the map will be redrawn to pretend East Rutherford is 5 min from where Letterman's show is taped and 10 min from Wall St.Ya gotta know that will happen.LT will don that stupid earring. BP and Phil Simms will be on every station. Maybe Joe Klecko and Gastineau will reappear. Joe Namath will be praised for not doing anything in the last 30 years and...there's so much you know you can predict here.NJ is the red-headed step child of NYC and that's that.

 

[Adebisi]

Yes it should be played in NYC, and all other cities for that matter. It's football, who cares about the weather? Some whining in here like the media sissies who want free trips to Miami every year. Suck it up.

Never understood why people have no problem with 3 weeks of playoffs being held in whatever weather comes along, but then want the SB to be played in "ideal conditions". Weather is part of football.

There is supposed to be an advantage to higher ranked teams in the playoffs- they get to play at home under conditions they are more used to and prepared for. There isn't supposed to be any advantage in the Super Bowl, and warm weather/dome conditions are much more neutral.

Wouldn't a warm weather/dome SB be an advantage to a warm weather/dome team?

 

[Amused to Death]

Seriously...game is in NJ, which for someone who grew up in North NJ, is very different logistically and believe it or not, weather-wise (when it comes to snow), than NYC.

Cmon now you know your team's name isn't the NJ Jets.East Rutherford, Paterson, Paramus, Montvale or Ramsey, Suffern, Spring Valley--> all the way to NYC all this will become some sorta morphed version of Manhattan to everyone for a couple weeks. For two weeks the map will be redrawn to pretend East Rutherford is 5 min from where Letterman's show is taped and 10 min from Wall St.

Ya gotta know that will happen.

New Yorker's view of Americahttp://bigthink.com/ideas/21121

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Spread the wealth.... Any city that spends the money on a team deserves the revenue..

Also I think an icy SB would be more interesting... Would certainly be a more memorable story

 

[omahabrad]

uh oh might have to move farther south

http://www.statesman.com/sports/pro/super-...in-1223473.html

 

[Reepicheep]

I don't like the idea of the Super Bowl being played in a blizzard. No real strong argument behind this, it just doesn't seem appealing to me.

I also think there is a tendency to overstate the "cold weather team"/"warm weather team" factor. The Packers play in the coldest stadium in the NFL and yet have a pass-first offense that thrives in perfect conditions. The Patriots set a number of passing records in 2007. Are they cold-weather teams because they play in the cold, or do you have to have a good RB and tough D to get that distinction?

 

[Tanner9919]

Since I'll most likely never be able to afford to go to a Super Bowl, I didn't really care that much where it's held. It's football, weather plays a factor in regular season games and playoff games, why not the Super Bowl. Weather is part of the game and true fans shouldn't care. My personal opinion is that the Super Bowl should be rotated among all 32 cities that support a NFL franchise.

When the Super Bowl was in Atlanta the weather wasn't great and for a week we listened to media members complain.

When the Super Bowl was in Detroit the weather wasn't great and for a week we listened to media members complain (even with the game being played indoors).

The Super Bowl is in Dallas and the weather doesn't look great and for a week we'll listen to the media members complain.

It's not a vacation, it's the Super Bowl. Nobody worries about the conference championship games being messed with due to weather and they shouldn't worry about the Super Bowl either. In the end things not related to the game could be effected if planning is poor, but how is that different than any other location? It's time for the media to shut up about the weather already.

what's to do in (cold) Minneapolis, Detroit, GB( if they ever hosted the Big Game) Indy, Dallas, Jacksonville, St Louis, during 2 weeks leading up to the SB?absolutely nothing. these cities are the most boring places on earth.

what's to do in L.A., Tampa, Miami, San Diego, New Orleans during the two weeks leading up to the SB? everything.

what's to do in NY during the two weeks leading up to the SB? what's not to do?? it's probably the BEST ever SB venue..

you not only have NYC as your playground,but also Atlantic City/Foxwods/Mohegan Sun for gambling day trips, skiing nearby ( including the Xanadu Complex and its indoor ski slope, if it's ever opened by then), tourism,sightseeing, best restaurants, bars,nightclubs, Broadway, other sporting venues like Devils/Rangers hockey, NBA action, college hoops...never a dull moment for the visiting SB fan..

Indy has what, a 2 mile race track. Minnesota has a big shopping mall.oh,joy! Detroit has Fear, no one wants to go outside after dark..

no one complains about the Championship Games like the Ice Bowl or the Tuck Rule game...

and why do we need to have a 'level' playing field, last I checked, BOTH teams are playing in the cold,or the ice,the snow, the blizzard...they're both equally challenged by it....