Odds to win the 2012 superbowl (1 Viewer)

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Odds to win 2012 superbowl.

He is right. 5-1 is a ####ty bet for any futures bet.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Detroit Lions 50-1

Matt Stafford has the potential to be a top ten NFL quarterback in the future but he will be growing into his skin in the 2011 NFL season. The Detroit Lions were a good play as underdogs last season but the sportsbooks will be making tighter lines on them in the 2011 NFL season. The Detroit Lions will be in Super Bowl form in one more year.

 

[Fensalk]

Strength of schedule for 2011:

1. Carolina Panthers 142-114-0 .555

2. Buffalo Bills 137-119-0 .535

3t. New York Jets* 133-123-0 .520

3t. Indianapolis Colts* 133-123-0 .520

3t. Jacksonville Jaguars 133-123-0 .520

3t. Kansas City Chiefs* 133-123-0 .520

3t. San Diego Chargers 133-133-0 .520

3t. Denver Broncos 133-123-0 .520

3t. Detroit Lions 133-123-0 .520

10t. Miami Dolphins 132-124-0 .516

10t. Houston Texans 132-124-0 .516

10t. Minnesota Vikings 132-124-0 .516

13t. Green Bay Packers* 130-126-0 .508

13t. New Orleans Saints* 130-126-0 .508

15t. New England Patriots* 129-127-0 .504

15t. Philadelphia Eagles* 129-127-0 .504

15t. Dallas Cowboys 129-127-0 .504

18. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 127-129-0 .496

19t. Cleveland Browns 126-130-0 .492

19t. Oakland Raiders 126-130-0 .492

19t. New York Giants 126-130-0 .492

19t. Atlanta Falcons* 126-130-0 .492

23t. Tennessee Titans 125-131-0 .488

23t. Chicago Bears* 125-131-0 .488

23t. Seattle Seahawks* 125-131-0 .488

26. St. Louis Rams 122-134-0 .477

27t. Pittsburgh Steelers* 121-135-0 .473

27t. Cincinnati Bengals 121-135-0 .473

27t. Washington Redskins 121-135-0 .473

30. San Francisco 49ers 119-137-0 .465

31. Baltimore Ravens* 117-139-0 .457

32. Arizona Cardinals 113-143-0 .441

 

[Fensalk]

Panthers are a terrible bet. They have the hardest schedule in the NFL next year.

The 49ers are a good bet depending on the QB they get. Its a good team with the 3rd easiest schedule. Good spot for Harbaugh to come in.

 

[Northbound Train]

Panthers are a terrible bet. They have the hardest schedule in the NFL next year.The 49ers are a good bet depending on the QB they get. Its a good team with the 3rd easiest schedule. Good spot for Harbaugh to come in.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 2011 season schedule is not released.....so how can one say they have the hardest schedule next year ....been drinking and burning so did I miss something

 

[BassNBrew]

Panthers are a terrible bet. They have the hardest schedule in the NFL next year.The 49ers are a good bet depending on the QB they get. Its a good team with the 3rd easiest schedule. Good spot for Harbaugh to come in.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 2011 season schedule is not released.....so how can one say they have the hardest schedule next year ....been drinking and burning so did I miss something

The opponents were released the day the season ended. It's a set roatation.

 

[two_dollars]

23t. Chicago Bears* 125-131-0 .488 --- Chicago Bears 15-1

 

[comfortably numb]

A $50 bet on the Bucs would bring in 2k...

Not too shabby

 

[Dave Larkin]

Panthers are a terrible bet. They have the hardest schedule in the NFL next year.The 49ers are a good bet depending on the QB they get. Its a good team with the 3rd easiest schedule. Good spot for Harbaugh to come in.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 2011 season schedule is not released.....so how can one say they have the hardest schedule next year ....been drinking and burning so did I miss something

The opponents were released the day the season ended. It's a set roatation.

Strength of schedule doesn't mean a whole lot. Teams change so much from year to year.

 

[David Yudkin]

Also hard to have strentgh of schedule if they plan to go to 18 games and we don't know how they are going to make an 18-game schedule yet.

 

[David Yudkin]

Also hard to have strentgh of schedule if they plan to go to 18 games and we don't know how they are going to make an 18-game schedule yet.

 

[12punch]

A $50 bet on the Bucs would bring in 2k...Not too shabby

actually, it would bring in 0.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Interesting that the Chargers are only 12-1 when they didn't make the playoffs.

 

[Rovers]

New York Jets 12-1

Rex Ryan has overcome the handicap of Mark Sanchez as his quarterback the last two seasons. If he does not make a change at quarterback in the 2011 NFL season it will be too much to overcome. This aggressive and hard hitting defense can only do so much to push this team to the next level. At 12-1 the odds are too short on the New York Jets.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

How can the Jets SOS be higher than the Pats when the Pats finished first in the division and will be playing another 1st place division teamwhile the Jets play a lower team in that division.

Becuase the Jets play the Pats who were 14-2 twice.

 

[Crazy8s]

A $50 bet on the Bucs would bring in 2k...Not too shabby

actually, it would bring in 0.

actually, it would be -$50

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

A $50 bet on the Bucs would bring in 2k...Not too shabby

actually, it would bring in 0.

hate much? That's a great bet with a qb on teh verge and rookies who had great rookie years at all the skill positions.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Panthers are a terrible bet. They have the hardest schedule in the NFL next year.The 49ers are a good bet depending on the QB they get. Its a good team with the 3rd easiest schedule. Good spot for Harbaugh to come in.

Panthers are nowhere near the worst bet on that board at 300-1. IMO the Pats are a worse bet than the Panthers.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

New York Jets 12-1

Rex Ryan has overcome the handicap of Mark Sanchez as his quarterback the last two seasons. If he does not make a change at quarterback in the 2011 NFL season it will be too much to overcome. This aggressive and hard hitting defense can only do so much to push this team to the next level. At 12-1 the odds are too short on the New York Jets.

What's so wrong about it, exactly?

 

[Wingnut]

New York Jets 12-1

Rex Ryan has overcome the handicap of Mark Sanchez as his quarterback the last two seasons. If he does not make a change at quarterback in the 2011 NFL season it will be too much to overcome. This aggressive and hard hitting defense can only do so much to push this team to the next level. At 12-1 the odds are too short on the New York Jets.

That was one of the tidbits I was going to post.Others:

Andy Reid as shown he is not very good with his decision making under pressure which leads to one conclusion. He has no chance of winning the Super Bowl in 2012 or beyond. (As much as I kinda agree, Id never say "no chance in 2012 or beyond)

The 2011 NFL season will not be as kind to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Look for the Bucs to falter in 2011. (40-1....same odds as the 49ers?!?!)

Joe Flacco is a decent quarterback but he will never be an elite quarterback. If John Harbaugh wants to advance in the NFL Playoffs he may want to test the waters and find out if there is a veteran quarterback with a few years left in his career. (again, LMAO...Yes Flacco has faltered in the playoffs in his young career, but this statement is just silly)

I think Ill have a beer and place my bets. lol

 

[Dr. Awesome]

A $50 bet on the Bucs would bring in 2k...Not too shabby

actually, it would bring in 0.

hate much? That's a great bet with a qb on teh verge and rookies who had great rookie years at all the skill positions.

They also benefited greatly from a weak schedule.

 

[tombonneau]

Colts t 18-1 seems like top value. Esp. since super bowl would be a home game.

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

I remember the 2004 season when the Steelers were a 26-1 dog to win the Superbowl as the 6th Seed in the AFC heading into the playoffs. I bet 100 bucks they would win the AFC which was 15-1. Too bad I didn't go all the way - dunno what stopped me.

Those were good times.

 

[Disc Shark]

I thought it was odd that the writer denigrates Sanchez (who I don't like) and Flacco (who I do), yet says Matt Ryan is still "developing" as an NFL quarterback. These guys are in the same stage of their careers and all have had success. If he thinks the Jets and Ravens have to ditch their QBs to have a shot at the championship, why not the Falcons, too?

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

A $50 bet on the Bucs would bring in 2k...Not too shabby

actually, it would bring in 0.

hate much? That's a great bet with a qb on teh verge and rookies who had great rookie years at all the skill positions.

They also benefited greatly from a weak schedule.

are you high? They played in one of the toughest divisions in football that almost had 3 teams in the playoffs (and the one that missed was 10-6)

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I thought it was odd that the writer denigrates Sanchez (who I don't like) and Flacco (who I do), yet says Matt Ryan is still "developing" as an NFL quarterback. These guys are in the same stage of their careers and all have had success. If he thinks the Jets and Ravens have to ditch their QBs to have a shot at the championship, why not the Falcons, too?

because the other two had phenomenal defenses, not so with the falcons.

 

[David Yudkin]

are you high? They played in one of the toughest divisions in football that almost had 3 teams in the playoffs (and the one that missed was 10-6)

Yes, the Bucs had a cupcake schedule.W Cleveland Browns (5-11) 17-14 W @ Carolina Panthers (2-14) 20-7 L Pittsburgh Steelers (12-4) 13-38 W @ Cincinnati Bengals (4-12) 24-21L New Orleans Saints (11-5) 6-31 W St. Louis Rams (7-9) 18-17 W @ Arizona Cardinals (6-10) 38-35 L @ Atlanta Falcons (13-3) 21-27 W Carolina Panthers (2-14) 31-16 W @ San Francisco 49ers (6-10) 21-0 L @ Baltimore Ravens (12-4) 10-17 L Atlanta Falcons (13-3) 24-28 W @ Washington Redskins (6-10) 17-16 L Detroit Lions (6-10) 20-23W Seattle Seahawks (7-9) 38-15 W @ New Orleans Saints 23-13 (11-5) Their only win against a team .500 or better was Week 17 against the Saints, who had absolutely nothing left to play for.

 

[Rovers]

New York Jets 12-1

Rex Ryan has overcome the handicap of Mark Sanchez as his quarterback the last two seasons. If he does not make a change at quarterback in the 2011 NFL season it will be too much to overcome. This aggressive and hard hitting defense can only do so much to push this team to the next level. At 12-1 the odds are too short on the New York Jets.

What's so wrong about it, exactly?

Clearly Sanchez is a bust. You spend too much time with your bow up doll.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

are you high? They played in one of the toughest divisions in football that almost had 3 teams in the playoffs (and the one that missed was 10-6)

Yes, the Bucs had a cupcake schedule.W Cleveland Browns (5-11) 17-14 W @ Carolina Panthers (2-14) 20-7 L Pittsburgh Steelers (12-4) 13-38 W @ Cincinnati Bengals (4-12) 24-21L New Orleans Saints (11-5) 6-31 W St. Louis Rams (7-9) 18-17 W @ Arizona Cardinals (6-10) 38-35 L @ Atlanta Falcons (13-3) 21-27 W Carolina Panthers (2-14) 31-16 W @ San Francisco 49ers (6-10) 21-0 L @ Baltimore Ravens (12-4) 10-17 L Atlanta Falcons (13-3) 24-28 W @ Washington Redskins (6-10) 17-16 L Detroit Lions (6-10) 20-23W Seattle Seahawks (7-9) 38-15 W @ New Orleans Saints 23-13 (11-5) Their only win against a team .500 or better was Week 17 against the Saints, who had absolutely nothing left to play for.

SEA was in the conf semis...CLE & Detroit were also much better than their record. really a ciclical argument.

 

[FantasyTrader]

are you high? They played in one of the toughest divisions in football that almost had 3 teams in the playoffs (and the one that missed was 10-6)

Yes, the Bucs had a cupcake schedule.W Cleveland Browns (5-11) 17-14 W @ Carolina Panthers (2-14) 20-7 L Pittsburgh Steelers (12-4) 13-38 W @ Cincinnati Bengals (4-12) 24-21L New Orleans Saints (11-5) 6-31 W St. Louis Rams (7-9) 18-17 W @ Arizona Cardinals (6-10) 38-35 L @ Atlanta Falcons (13-3) 21-27 W Carolina Panthers (2-14) 31-16 W @ San Francisco 49ers (6-10) 21-0 L @ Baltimore Ravens (12-4) 10-17 L Atlanta Falcons (13-3) 24-28 W @ Washington Redskins (6-10) 17-16 L Detroit Lions (6-10) 20-23W Seattle Seahawks (7-9) 38-15 W @ New Orleans Saints 23-13 (11-5) Their only win against a team .500 or better was Week 17 against the Saints, who had absolutely nothing left to play for.

SEA was in the conf semis...CLE & Detroit were also much better than their record. really a ciclical argument.

No.

 

[David Yudkin]

CLE & Detroit were also much better than their record. really a ciclical argument.

Let's try this in a different way. Based on Pro Football Reference's team anaylsis combining offense, defense, point differential, and strength of schedule, the Bucs still were rated as a below average team. Despite their record, they had a -0.6 score in their rating system (0 would be considered average) and TB was ranked as the 17th best team in the league.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

CLE & Detroit were also much better than their record. really a ciclical argument.

Let's try this in a different way. Based on Pro Football Reference's team anaylsis combining offense, defense, point differential, and strength of schedule, the Bucs still were rated as a below average team. Despite their record, they had a -0.6 score in their rating system (0 would be considered average) and TB was ranked as the 17th best team in the league.

I'll bet those tests are biased towards teams that tend to score a lot, even though in the true measure of a team a win of 17-14 or a win of 35-34 counts equally. I would argue the 17-14 W is actually more impressive, and more indicative of 'playoff success' which is the basis for these odds. The Buccs with Legarrete Blount flat out took the AIR out of many games. By design, they ended up giving each team 3-4 less possessions than the other teams that week. It was always frustrating to start any buccs because you knew that you'd get 3 possessions and 7-10 pts if you had the lead going into the2nd half. That certainly doesn't make them a 'worse team' though those stats would tell you otherwise.They have a helluva yooung coach, and a bunch of young studs at nearly every position Save Wrrr (warrior) who are willing to run through walls for him. They quite possibly have a franchise qb in freeman. I'm mean this sucks for me. I am a lions/falcons fan, so TB has been a rival as long as I can remember, but these guys are ####### good and aren't a 'will fade from the scene' kind of team. My ###-O-Pinion

 

[David Yudkin]

I'll bet those tests are biased towards teams that tend to score a lot, even though in the true measure of a team a win of 17-14 or a win of 35-34 counts equally. I would argue the 17-14 W is actually more impressive, and more indicative of 'playoff success' which is the basis for these odds. The Buccs with Legarrete Blount flat out took the AIR out of many games. By design, they ended up giving each team 3-4 less possessions than the other teams that week. It was always frustrating to start any buccs because you knew that you'd get 3 possessions and 7-10 pts if you had the lead going into the2nd half. That certainly doesn't make them a 'worse team' though those stats would tell you otherwise.They have a helluva yooung coach, and a bunch of young studs at nearly every position Save Wrrr (warrior) who are willing to run through walls for him. They quite possibly have a franchise qb in freeman. I'm mean this sucks for me. I am a lions/falcons fan, so TB has been a rival as long as I can remember, but these guys are ####### good and aren't a 'will fade from the scene' kind of team. My ###-O-Pinion

Look, I am not saying TB is a bad team, but their schedule IMO made them look like a better team and influenced their record.For example, if the same trend happened (not beating a single team in a meaningful game with at least a .500 record), if they played the Browns schedule they would have been 5-11.10 wins is 10 wins, but 9 of them were against the sisters of the poor and one was against the Saints (who flat out had nothing to play for).

 

[Dr. Octopus]

A $50 bet on the Bucs would bring in 2k...Not too shabby

actually, it would bring in 0.

hate much? That's a great bet with a qb on teh verge and rookies who had great rookie years at all the skill positions.

They also benefited greatly from a weak schedule.

are you high? They played in one of the toughest divisions in football that almost had 3 teams in the playoffs (and the one that missed was 10-6)

They didn't have to play that team that just missed the playoffs at 10-6 though.

 

[Flash]

Odds to win 2012 superbowl.

He is right. 5-1 is a ####ty bet for any futures bet.

He????Didn't you write this?