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*** OFFICIAL *** 13/14 Off-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (2 Viewers)

12 team PPR, standard scoring/lineup

Gave: Year 2015 Round 1 Pick (should be late)

Got: Cameron, Jordon CLE TE

I have a contending team but was weak at TE and no 2014 draft picks until 3.10

 
Mingooch said:
Normally I would say Cruz, but with the depth of this draft I would rather have Roddy and the pick
I wouldn't - give me a borderline elite player like Cruz over an aging Roddy and an unknown rookie 1.09 pick any day.
I don't think you lose anything (or much) with White over the next couple years. And I don't expect Cruz to put up elite production into his 30s. A spin at the wheel, could be someone like Benjamin or Mason who could be elite if its a cherry. You're betting Cruz's 29+ production on a chance at a B+ rookie pick. IMO worth a shot. The pick will only increase in value over the next 2 mo.

 
Mingooch said:
Normally I would say Cruz, but with the depth of this draft I would rather have Roddy and the pick
I wouldn't - give me a borderline elite player like Cruz over an aging Roddy and an unknown rookie 1.09 pick any day.
I don't think you lose anything (or much) with White over the next couple years. And I don't expect Cruz to put up elite production into his 30s. A spin at the wheel, could be someone like Benjamin or Mason who could be elite if its a cherry. You're betting Cruz's 29+ production on a chance at a B+ rookie pick. IMO worth a shot. The pick will only increase in value over the next 2 mo.
I know Mason won't be there at 1.09. Benjamin potentially could be there, but I doubt it as well. I do think Roddy has decent WR2 numbers for another year or two, but Cruz is only 27 and the Giants' best offensive weapon; I think he'll be a great PPR asset for a number of years to come.

The 1.09 pick value could increase over the next two months...but free agency can affect player values during that time as well.

 
12 team PPR, standard scoring/lineup

Gave: Year 2015 Round 1 Pick (should be late)

Got: Cameron, Jordon CLE TE

I have a contending team but was weak at TE and no 2014 draft picks until 3.10
12 team PPR, (0.5/1/1/5 RB/WR/TE)

2015 1st for Dwayne Allen

That seemed reasonable in my league; I think the new Cameron owner got a steal in yours.

 
Non-PPR standard scoring league

Gave: Gio Bernard, BJGE, Da'rick Rogers

Received: 1.01, 2015 future 1st (probably a mid round pick), Mike Glennon, Robert Housler

 
Non-PPR standard scoring league

Gave: Gio Bernard, BJGE, Da'rick Rogers

Received: 1.01, 2015 future 1st (probably a mid round pick), Mike Glennon, Robert Housler
Non-PPR I much prefer the picks side. Glennon and Housler are non-factors.

 
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14 team PPR with dev players. 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 2 FLEX.

This is 1.5/1/0.5 PPR for TE/WR/RB. That and the WR/TE thing make TEs especially valuable.

Gave:

RB Doug Martin

TE Dennis Pitta

3.02 rookie pick

Got:

TE Jimmy Graham

2.05 rookie pick
TE premium makes this a total steal. Graham side in a landslide.
I wouldnt say landslide.
I would say complete landslide, also factor in its only .5 PPR for RBs, and I'm not all that high on Martin to begin with. He also got a pick bump too. I also own Graham in a 1.5 TE PPR, and honestly, not sure I would trade him for anyone straight up (including Calvin, Green, etc) unless it was a massive overpay.

 
14 team PPR with dev players. 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 2 FLEX.

This is 1.5/1/0.5 PPR for TE/WR/RB. That and the WR/TE thing make TEs especially valuable.

Gave:

RB Doug Martin

TE Dennis Pitta

3.02 rookie pick

Got:

TE Jimmy Graham

2.05 rookie pick
TE premium makes this a total steal. Graham side in a landslide.
I wouldnt say landslide.
I would say complete landslide, also factor in its only .5 PPR for RBs, and I'm not all that high on Martin to begin with. He also got a pick bump too. I also own Graham in a 1.5 TE PPR, and honestly, not sure I would trade him for anyone straight up (including Calvin, Green, etc) unless it was a massive overpay.
I'm in this league and I don't think you understand how scarce and valuable RBs are. Especially considering you must start 2 and there are 14 teams. I can see why he hesitated. Even if it is Martin.

I was offered Graham straight up for Shady and turned it down.

 
14 team PPR with dev players. 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 2 FLEX.

This is 1.5/1/0.5 PPR for TE/WR/RB. That and the WR/TE thing make TEs especially valuable.

Gave:

RB Doug Martin

TE Dennis Pitta

3.02 rookie pick

Got:

TE Jimmy Graham

2.05 rookie pick
TE premium makes this a total steal. Graham side in a landslide.
I wouldnt say landslide.
I would say complete landslide, also factor in its only .5 PPR for RBs, and I'm not all that high on Martin to begin with. He also got a pick bump too. I also own Graham in a 1.5 TE PPR, and honestly, not sure I would trade him for anyone straight up (including Calvin, Green, etc) unless it was a massive overpay.
TEs being lumped in w/ WRs lowers Graham's value a bit compared to typical setups. I'd still take Graham, but if 2012 Doug Martin shows back up this is a wash.

 
Mingooch said:
Normally I would say Cruz, but with the depth of this draft I would rather have Roddy and the pick
I wouldn't - give me a borderline elite player like Cruz over an aging Roddy and an unknown rookie 1.09 pick any day.
I don't think you lose anything (or much) with White over the next couple years. And I don't expect Cruz to put up elite production into his 30s. A spin at the wheel, could be someone like Benjamin or Mason who could be elite if its a cherry. You're betting Cruz's 29+ production on a chance at a B+ rookie pick. IMO worth a shot. The pick will only increase in value over the next 2 mo.
I know Mason won't be there at 1.09. Benjamin potentially could be there, but I doubt it as well. I do think Roddy has decent WR2 numbers for another year or two, but Cruz is only 27 and the Giants' best offensive weapon; I think he'll be a great PPR asset for a number of years to come.

The 1.09 pick value could increase over the next two months...but free agency can affect player values during that time as well.
I am the one who traded Cruz away for Roddy and the 1.09. I have Calvin and Crabs, so I almost declined it as I was good with what I had with those three wr's.

Then I looked to package something else together to increase the 1.09 value. Accepted above deal to get me a stop-gap at 3rd wr with Roddy and then flipped the 1.09, Edelman, Q Patton and my 2015 3rd for this years 2.03 and his 2015 1st. Very easily top 3 pick next year, quite possibly the #1 pick. The need for two firsts this year and value of Edelman (if stays in NE) was worth the gamble for this owner.

So, I almost rejected the Cruz deal as soon as it came through, but will gladly trade Roddy for Cruz for two more years to swap out 1.09 for next years potential #1. If the other deal didn't go through I would not have done the Cruz/White deal.

 
Mingooch said:
Normally I would say Cruz, but with the depth of this draft I would rather have Roddy and the pick
I wouldn't - give me a borderline elite player like Cruz over an aging Roddy and an unknown rookie 1.09 pick any day.
I don't think you lose anything (or much) with White over the next couple years. And I don't expect Cruz to put up elite production into his 30s. A spin at the wheel, could be someone like Benjamin or Mason who could be elite if its a cherry. You're betting Cruz's 29+ production on a chance at a B+ rookie pick. IMO worth a shot. The pick will only increase in value over the next 2 mo.
I know Mason won't be there at 1.09. Benjamin potentially could be there, but I doubt it as well. I do think Roddy has decent WR2 numbers for another year or two, but Cruz is only 27 and the Giants' best offensive weapon; I think he'll be a great PPR asset for a number of years to come.

The 1.09 pick value could increase over the next two months...but free agency can affect player values during that time as well.
I am the one who traded Cruz away for Roddy and the 1.09. I have Calvin and Crabs, so I almost declined it as I was good with what I had with those three wr's.

Then I looked to package something else together to increase the 1.09 value. Accepted above deal to get me a stop-gap at 3rd wr with Roddy and then flipped the 1.09, Edelman, Q Patton and my 2015 3rd for this years 2.03 and his 2015 1st. Very easily top 3 pick next year, quite possibly the #1 pick. The need for two firsts this year and value of Edelman (if stays in NE) was worth the gamble for this owner.

So, I almost rejected the Cruz deal as soon as it came through, but will gladly trade Roddy for Cruz for two more years to swap out 1.09 for next years potential #1. If the other deal didn't go through I would not have done the Cruz/White deal.
I think it was a fair deal for both of us. I got a bit younger at my WR2, and you got a stopgap with a decently valauble piece to flip. Win/WIn.

 
Mingooch said:
Normally I would say Cruz, but with the depth of this draft I would rather have Roddy and the pick
I wouldn't - give me a borderline elite player like Cruz over an aging Roddy and an unknown rookie 1.09 pick any day.
I don't think you lose anything (or much) with White over the next couple years. And I don't expect Cruz to put up elite production into his 30s. A spin at the wheel, could be someone like Benjamin or Mason who could be elite if its a cherry. You're betting Cruz's 29+ production on a chance at a B+ rookie pick. IMO worth a shot. The pick will only increase in value over the next 2 mo.
I know Mason won't be there at 1.09. Benjamin potentially could be there, but I doubt it as well. I do think Roddy has decent WR2 numbers for another year or two, but Cruz is only 27 and the Giants' best offensive weapon; I think he'll be a great PPR asset for a number of years to come.

The 1.09 pick value could increase over the next two months...but free agency can affect player values during that time as well.
I am the one who traded Cruz away for Roddy and the 1.09. I have Calvin and Crabs, so I almost declined it as I was good with what I had with those three wr's.

Then I looked to package something else together to increase the 1.09 value. Accepted above deal to get me a stop-gap at 3rd wr with Roddy and then flipped the 1.09, Edelman, Q Patton and my 2015 3rd for this years 2.03 and his 2015 1st. Very easily top 3 pick next year, quite possibly the #1 pick. The need for two firsts this year and value of Edelman (if stays in NE) was worth the gamble for this owner.

So, I almost rejected the Cruz deal as soon as it came through, but will gladly trade Roddy for Cruz for two more years to swap out 1.09 for next years potential #1. If the other deal didn't go through I would not have done the Cruz/White deal.
Great job.

 
12 Team PPR

Team A gave up:

Foles, Nick PHI QB
Bennett, Martellus CHI TE
Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.02

Team B gave up:
Ertz, Zach PHI TE
Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.06
Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.10

 
12 Team PPR

Team A gave up:

Foles, Nick PHI QB

Bennett, Martellus CHI TE

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.02

Team B gave up:

Ertz, Zach PHI TE

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.06

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.10
Foles and Watkins/Evans side. I like Ertz, but wow.

 
12 Team PPR

Team A gave up:

Foles, Nick PHI QB

Bennett, Martellus CHI TE

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.02

Team B gave up:

Ertz, Zach PHI TE

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.06

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.10
makes perfect sense...I'll give you better players to trade my 1.02 down for less than it is worth?

 
12 Team PPR

Team A gave up:

Foles, Nick PHI QB

Bennett, Martellus CHI TE

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.02

Team B gave up:

Ertz, Zach PHI TE

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.06

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.10
makes perfect sense...I'll give you better players to trade my 1.02 down for less than it is worth?
Ertz's star will shoot up significantly this season. I'm a big fan.

I'm on the side getting 1.02, but I get why he did the deal.

I was initially trying to just get Foles, but sent a larger deal and this was the counter. QBs don't sell for much in these leagues (4 pts TD).

 
12 Team PPR

Team A gave up:

Foles, Nick PHI QB

Bennett, Martellus CHI TE

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.02

Team B gave up:

Ertz, Zach PHI TE

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.06

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.10
makes perfect sense...I'll give you better players to trade my 1.02 down for less than it is worth?
Ertz's star will shoot up significantly this season. I'm a big fan.

I'm on the side getting 1.02, but I get why he did the deal.

I was initially trying to just get Foles, but sent a larger deal and this was the counter. QBs don't sell for much in these leagues (4 pts TD).
Hey...good deal for you

I doubt Ertz value shoots up to cover the difference there for me but to each his own

 
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One More Rep said:
jeter23 said:
12 team PPR

Gave: Pierce/Stills/4.01

Got: Foster/3.02
Nice deal to acquire Foster
is foster really worth that little? wow
Yes, but I also think it's that Pierce's stock is pointing way up.
I agree. I'd likely pay this for Foster, but I don't think the deal stands out in this thread. It's close enough.
I would still value foster as a top 15 back

 
10 team non-PPR

1.5 and 1.8 for CJ Spiller
nice return. i've been trying to sell him for any single pick between 1.2 through 1.5 and can't get any interest.
Shows how different things are from league to league. I can't come close to getting spiller for pick 4 or 5 in any of my leagues.
I have the 5 and wouldn't give it up for Spiller.
Who are you getting at 5 that you'd rather have than Spiller?! Lee?

 
10 team non-PPR

1.5 and 1.8 for CJ Spiller
nice return. i've been trying to sell him for any single pick between 1.2 through 1.5 and can't get any interest.
Shows how different things are from league to league. I can't come close to getting spiller for pick 4 or 5 in any of my leagues.
I have the 5 and wouldn't give it up for Spiller.
Who are you getting at 5 that you'd rather have than Spiller?! Lee?
I'm only in 1 RB leagues so that obviously decreases the value of RB's and at 27 his value is about to hit a cliff - maybe he gets back a late 1st next year but who knows.

I'd rather take my chances on Lee or one of the top 2 RB's in this class.

Edit: there's also a risk that the Bills his replacement with 2015 being the last year of Spiller's contract.

 
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Ray RIce and an early 2014 2nd rounder for Gore and 2015 1st and 2nd. 1/2 ppr for WR/TE. The 2015 picks should be late, but it's a pretty competitve league so that's not gaurenteed.

 
10 team PPR, 1QB 1RB 2WR 1TE 2FLEX

Team A trades:

Kyle Rudolph

Team B trades:

Rookie Pick 2.09

My other TEs were Gronk/Kelce, so I figured I could afford to move Rudolph (although I suppose with the injury history of Gronk, I may regret that)

I figured I'd rather take a shot on the unknown at 2.09.

 
10 team PPR, 1QB 1RB 2WR 1TE 2FLEX

Team A trades:

Kyle Rudolph

Team B trades:

Rookie Pick 2.09

My other TEs were Gronk/Kelce, so I figured I could afford to move Rudolph (although I suppose with the injury history of Gronk, I may regret that)

I figured I'd rather take a shot on the unknown at 2.09.
I would love to get Rudolph for that

 
10 team PPR, 1QB 1RB 2WR 1TE 2FLEX

Team A trades:

Kyle Rudolph

Team B trades:

Rookie Pick 2.09

My other TEs were Gronk/Kelce, so I figured I could afford to move Rudolph (although I suppose with the injury history of Gronk, I may regret that)

I figured I'd rather take a shot on the unknown at 2.09.
I would love to get Rudolph for that
Just figured in a 10team league with only 1 TE required, everyone has a decent starter. The guy that acquired Rudolph also had Cameron at TE.

 
deadlyrange0321 said:
10 team PPR, 1QB 1RB 2WR 1TE 2FLEX

Team A trades:

Kyle Rudolph

Team B trades:

Rookie Pick 2.09

My other TEs were Gronk/Kelce, so I figured I could afford to move Rudolph (although I suppose with the injury history of Gronk, I may regret that)

I figured I'd rather take a shot on the unknown at 2.09.
Like Rudolph here

 
renesauz said:
Ray RIce and an early 2014 2nd rounder for Gore and 2015 1st and 2nd. 1/2 ppr for WR/TE. The 2015 picks should be late, but it's a pretty competitve league so that's not gaurenteed.
To follow up on the trade you posted, Team A gave Ray Rice and the 2014 2.04 and Team B gave Gore and a 2015 1st and a 2015 2nd. Team getting Rice also has Foster and Tate at RB and Crabtree, Welker, Reggie Wayne, Cecil Shorts, Robert Woods and Steve Smith at WR and Daniels at TE. I think your 2015 1st and 2nd will be a mid to early 1st and 2nd. Probably mid, but could be early, but doubtful they are late.

 
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