*** OFFICIAL *** 13/14 Off-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (2 Viewers)

[maxhyde]

ppr / .5 touch bonus (.5 per carry)

Dez for Gio & 1.04

Gio outscored Dez in this format last year. It depends on the starters to find out where the advantage is. If the flex players are high, then WR values take a hit. Considering the .5point/touch, you can find a good WR at 4th overall to help with the pain of dealing Bryant. Evans or even Watkins could fall to 4th in a league like this.

Chris Jonson have outscored alot of guys in this format as well? and extra 140pts from his 279 carries kills Dez

That scoring change means you don't even really need "stud" RB just guys that get the ball alot. Ivory probably outscored a lot of top WR

anyway I will keep Dez

Thats like saying you dont need stud WRs, you just need guys with a lot of targets (Welker, Edelman......).

What you NEED are guys who score a ton, and a stud RB who gets a ton of carries is about as untouchable as you can get in that format.

Realistically with good health, Gio will get at least 200 carries a year for the next 6-7 years (likely more on average of course). He probably also has a year or two where he scores about the same as Dez in PPR formats, meaning he will outscore Dez by a LOT in this format.

Oh yeah, then add pick 4. I would put Dez and Gio pretty equal in value, but adding pick 4 makes this a really easy decision, especialy considering it is very possible Watkins makes it to pick 4, and if not, you take a nother RB with upside.

No its the opposite. Its like saying I still need a stud WR and i can get more points from a lesser RB than Gio in this format. There will always be RB's that get carries

When 1 carry equals five yards TRich is even startable.

What it means is that you won't be flexing WR...I still need to start a couple right?

 

[ghostguy123]

No its the opposite. Its like saying I still need a stud WR and i can get more points from a lesser RB than Gio in this format. There will always be RB's that get carries

When 1 carry equals five yards TRich is even startable.

What it means is that you won't be flexing WR...I still need to start a couple right?

If you want to take Dez over Gio straight up that is fine, can't argue (though that is a really tough call in this format), but when pick 4 is added, no brainer for me.

I don't know why you keep talking about "startable" and "playable" RBs. Gio is WELL ABOVE that, probably as much or moreso than Dez is above the 20th ranked WR..............then like I said, add pick 4 to that.

PLus in this format it seems RB would be more desireable than in regular PPR leagues, so I would think someone would be glad to trade a pretty darn good WR for one of the RBs to take at pick 4.............but like I also said, if the RBs all go you could realistically get Watkins. Gio and Watkins for Dez????? Or even Gio and Evans............or Gio and a good WR to trade for.............easy decision for me.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

It is probably better if watkins and evens both go before pick 4 in that format.

Yeah. It depends on how many WRs you need to start. It doesn't sound like maxhyde has played in this format.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

Non PPR

Player A - Jimmy Graham

Player B - Cobb, Julius Thomas

 

[One More Rep]

Non PPR

Player A - Jimmy Graham

Player B - Cobb, Julius Thomas

Graham

 

[FFDude23]

12 Team PPR

Bowe for 2.09 rookie

 

[JohnW1970]

12 Team PPR

Bowe for 2.09 rookie

I'm interested in this one. I just turned down getting Bowe for 2.10 last night. Would rather have the pick for now.

 

[maxhyde]

I don't know why you keep talking about "startable" and "playable" RBs. Gio is WELL ABOVE that, probably as much or moreso than Dez is above the 20th ranked WR..............then like I said, add pick 4 to that.

...and this is where we disagree. I think Gio is a better PPR back than point per carry back...and unless I was loaded at WR and tragically short at RB I wouldn't trade him in either format for this deal

It is probably better if watkins and evens both go before pick 4 in that format.

Yeah. It depends on how many WRs you need to start. It doesn't sound like maxhyde has played in this format.

I do play in a similar format and I just don't Gio is the back I would trade a top 6 WR for.

12 Team PPR

Bowe for 2.09 rookie

I am keeping Bowe if this is the best I can do I think but I understand it.

 

[FFDude23]

another one same league as above:

Decker + 4.04

B. Pierce + 3.01

 

[msudaisy26]

another one same league as above:

Decker + 4.04

B. Pierce + 3.01

Not knowing the requirements I would take Decker by a lot. Even down grading the quarterback and everything else he might meet last years totals just based on the fact he might be the only decent weapon in that offense.

 

[FFDude23]

another one same league as above:

Decker + 4.04

B. Pierce + 3.01

Not knowing the requirements I would take Decker by a lot. Even down grading the quarterback and everything else he might meet last years totals just based on the fact he might be the only decent weapon in that offense.

I'm actually the one getting Pierce here and initially I kinda regret it, but this is a new team of mine and the roster wasn't very good. Either way my team is not competing until at least next year but more likely 2016. This does give me 6 picks in the top 28 though (including 2 1sts and 2 2nds), and I should be able to find a QB or go BPA in the 3rd.

With Decker seeing the opposing team's number 1 CB and Geno throwing to him (unless another QB comes in), I might feel better about it after the draft. I liked Pierce quite a bit before last season, If he looks more like the 2012 Pierce (with more carries down the road), then I'll feel better

eta: also there wasn't much of a market for him, as you would probably guess. One offer was a 2015 2nd for him. A lot of people will probably say I should have kept him or waited, but hopefully it works out.

 

[doowain]

12 Team PPR

Gave:
Hemingway, Junior KCC WR
Cameron, Jordan CLE TE

Got:
Randle, Rueben NYG WR
Fleener, Coby IND TE
Year 2014 Draft Pick 3.04
Year 2014 Draft Pick 4.04

Have Gronk and Gresham at TE.

 

[msudaisy26]

12 Team PPR

Gave:

Hemingway, Junior KCC WR

Cameron, Jordan CLE TE

Got:

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Fleener, Coby IND TE

Year 2014 Draft Pick 3.04

Year 2014 Draft Pick 4.04

Have Gronk and Gresham at TE.

Love it for you.

 

[Nero]

12 team PPR 2RB 3WR 1Flex

Gave :

Alshon Jeffery

Received:

Michael Crabtree

Hakeem Nicks

1.3

2015 1st (1.5-1.8 would be my guess)

 

[pghrob]

12 team PPR 2RB 3WR 1Flex

Gave :

Alshon Jeffery

Received:

Michael Crabtree

Hakeem Nicks

1.3

2015 1st (1.5-1.8 would be my guess)

Was it a trade to a Bears homer who is a Gamecocks alumnus? Quite a haul for Alshon.

 

[ghostguy123]

I don't know why you keep talking about "startable" and "playable" RBs. Gio is WELL ABOVE that, probably as much or moreso than Dez is above the 20th ranked WR..............then like I said, add pick 4 to that.

...and this is where we disagree. I think Gio is a better PPR back than point per carry back...and unless I was loaded at WR and tragically short at RB I wouldn't trade him in either format for this deal

It is probably better if watkins and evens both go before pick 4 in that format.

Yeah. It depends on how many WRs you need to start. It doesn't sound like maxhyde has played in this format.

I do play in a similar format and I just don't Gio is the back I would trade a top 6 WR for.

You never seem to mention pick 4 as part of this deal.

 

[ghostguy123]

12 team PPR 2RB 3WR 1Flex

Gave :

Alshon Jeffery

Received:

Michael Crabtree

Hakeem Nicks

1.3

2015 1st (1.5-1.8 would be my guess)

Crabbs and picks side, easy

 

[ghostguy123]

another one same league as above:

Decker + 4.04

B. Pierce + 3.01

Not knowing the requirements I would take Decker by a lot. Even down grading the quarterback and everything else he might meet last years totals just based on the fact he might be the only decent weapon in that offense.

seriously?? He will be top 10 as a Jet? Lot of people need to get hurt this year for this to happen

 

[msudaisy26]

another one same league as above:

Decker + 4.04

B. Pierce + 3.01

Not knowing the requirements I would take Decker by a lot. Even down grading the quarterback and everything else he might meet last years totals just based on the fact he might be the only decent weapon in that offense.

seriously?? He will be top 10 as a Jet? Lot of people need to get hurt this year for this to happen

You never know, would you have pegged Gordon as top 10 last year? If you look Decker did a lot of his work with some monster games, 5 games over 25 points. He also had 6 games at or under 10 points. I could see him having a lot less 25 point games but a lot more games over 10 points.

You do realize that Boldin was 15th last year with 85 for about 1150 and 7? I could see Decker getting those numbers if Smith is forcing the ball to him like Luck did to Wayne his rookie year, or Delhomme used to do with Steve Smith.

 

[ghostguy123]

Yes, I did think Gordon could have easily been top 10. He is 5x the talent decker is.

 

[ghostguy123]

And luck is a hell of a lot better than geno, and smith was wayyyyyy better tham decker is now.

But by all means, go buy buy buy, lol. He should be a bargain if those are your thoughts.

 

[msudaisy26]

And luck is a hell of a lot better than geno, and smith was wayyyyyy better tham decker is now.

But by all means, go buy buy buy, lol. He should be a bargain if those are your thoughts.

Luck is a lot better then Geno, but we have no idea if Geno will play on par with Lucks rookie year this season. I agree Smith was better but it doesn't mean that the ball can't or won't be forced to Decker. It doesn't mean it will either.

 

[One More Rep]

12 team PPR 2RB 3WR 1Flex

Gave :

Alshon Jeffery

Received:

Michael Crabtree

Hakeem Nicks

1.3

2015 1st (1.5-1.8 would be my guess)

Jeffery but nice haul for him

 

[ghostguy123]

And luck is a hell of a lot better than geno, and smith was wayyyyyy better tham decker is now.

But by all means, go buy buy buy, lol. He should be a bargain if those are your thoughts.

Luck is a lot better then Geno, but we have no idea if Geno will play on par with Lucks rookie year this season. I agree Smith was better but it doesn't mean that the ball can't or won't be forced to Decker. It doesn't mean it will either.

Not much shocks me in fantasy football. Decker in the top 10 would shock me.

 

[JohnW1970]

14 team PPR league with devy players. I wasn't involved

Team A gave: T. Richardson

Team B gave: MJD, 1.08, 2015 1st and 3rd and a 2015 devy pick.

Way more than I would pay for Richardson at this point.

 

[msudaisy26]

14 team PPR league with devy players. I wasn't involved

Team A gave: T. Richardson

Team B gave: MJD, 1.08, 2015 1st and 3rd and a 2015 devy pick.

Way more than I would pay for Richardson at this point.

1.08 is more then I would pay lol

 

[ghostguy123]

Who on Earth pays that for Richardson????? That;s like 3x his value at least.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

14 team PPR league with devy players. I wasn't involved

Team A gave: T. Richardson

Team B gave: MJD, 1.08, 2015 1st and 3rd and a 2015 devy pick.

Way more than I would pay for Richardson at this point.

That person should quit fantasy football,

 

[One More Rep]

14 team PPR league with devy players. I wasn't involved

Team A gave: T. Richardson

Team B gave: MJD, 1.08, 2015 1st and 3rd and a 2015 devy pick.

Way more than I would pay for Richardson at this point.

Picks side

 

[az_prof]

12 team ppr

Team A gave: R.Bush, J.Hunter

Team B gave: K.Moreno, H.Nicks, 2.05

Give me Bush and Hunter

Me too. I don't think Moreno is that valuable and the fact that no one has signed him yet while Gerhart, Jennings, Tate, and McFadden have all signed tells me something. Nicks has value but I like Hunter's upside so much more.

 

[az_prof]

Non PPR

Player A - Jimmy Graham

Player B - Cobb, Julius Thomas

This is a good example of a fair trade. If a team needs a WR, then Cobb and Thomas is worth more. But Graham is obviously the best player in the trade and Cobb's value is less in Non PPR.

 

[az_prof]

14 team PPR league with devy players. I wasn't involved

Team A gave: T. Richardson

Team B gave: MJD, 1.08, 2015 1st and 3rd and a 2015 devy pick.

Way more than I would pay for Richardson at this point.

1.08 is more then I would pay lol

I wouldn't even give a 1.12 for Richardson. I hate trades like this because they can really kill a league.

 

[EBF]

14 team PPR league with devy players. I wasn't involved

Team A gave: T. Richardson

Team B gave: MJD, 1.08, 2015 1st and 3rd and a 2015 devy pick.

Way more than I would pay for Richardson at this point.

1.08 is more then I would pay lol

I wouldn't even give a 1.12 for Richardson. I hate trades like this because they can really kill a league.

I'm in that league as well (wasn't involved in that trade). It's a dev league, so the picks are devalued.

This year Watkins, Lee, Seastrunk, and Adams are out of the pool.

The guy trading the picks has generally been a playoff team, so it would be a little bit of a surprise if those turned out to be top 4-5 picks.

He gave up a lot of pieces, but not necessarily any single thing of real value.

From that standpoint I kind of like it if you're still a Trent believer and you want to take a shot on immediate help.

 

[cstu]

14 team PPR league with devy players. I wasn't involved

Team A gave: T. Richardson

Team B gave: MJD, 1.08, 2015 1st and 3rd and a 2015 devy pick.

Way more than I would pay for Richardson at this point.

1.08 is more then I would pay lol

I wouldn't even give a 1.12 for Richardson. I hate trades like this because they can really kill a league.

I'm in that league as well (wasn't involved in that trade). It's a dev league, so the picks are devalued.

This year Watkins, Lee, Seastrunk, and Adams are out of the pool.

The guy trading the picks has generally been a playoff team, so it would be a little bit of a surprise if those turned out to be top 4-5 picks.

He gave up a lot of pieces, but not necessarily any single thing of real value.

From that standpoint I kind of like it if you're still a Trent believer and you want to take a shot on immediate help.

I beg to differ that the 1.8 and 2015 are not things of value.

 

[cstu]

12 team ppr

Team A gave: R.Bush, J.Hunter

Team B gave: K.Moreno, H.Nicks, 2.05

Give me Bush and Hunter

Me too. I don't think Moreno is that valuable and the fact that no one has signed him yet while Gerhart, Jennings, Tate, and McFadden have all signed tells me something. Nicks has value but I like Hunter's upside so much more.

Any time you can upgrade at two positions for a mid 2nd you've done well.

 

[jwb]

14 team PPR league with devy players. I wasn't involved

Team A gave: T. Richardson

Team B gave: MJD, 1.08, 2015 1st and 3rd and a 2015 devy pick.

Way more than I would pay for Richardson at this point.

1.08 is more then I would pay lol

I wouldn't even give a 1.12 for Richardson. I hate trades like this because they can really kill a league.

I'm in that league as well (wasn't involved in that trade). It's a dev league, so the picks are devalued.

This year Watkins, Lee, Seastrunk, and Adams are out of the pool.

The guy trading the picks has generally been a playoff team, so it would be a little bit of a surprise if those turned out to be top 4-5 picks.

He gave up a lot of pieces, but not necessarily any single thing of real value.

From that standpoint I kind of like it if you're still a Trent believer and you want to take a shot on immediate help.

I beg to differ that the 1.8 and 2015 are not things of value.

Of course everything has value, but being a devy league (and 14 teams) makes all the difference, though. The perceived 14 best players already came off the board last summer.

In a devy league, the very high rookie picks usually net a "known" player (ones that emerged and declared - Mathews is a good example) - once you get past 1.3 though, it's a crapshoot - much more than a regular draft. In most years, picks 1.4 / 1.5 onward in devy leagues are equal to picks a full round later in non-devy leagues.

 

[Nero]

12 team PPR 2RB 3WR 1Flex

Gave :

Alshon Jeffery

Received:

Michael Crabtree

Hakeem Nicks

1.3

2015 1st (1.5-1.8 would be my guess)

Was it a trade to a Bears homer who is a Gamecocks alumnus? Quite a haul for Alshon.

I didn't know it going in, but you are right. Die hard Bears fan.

 

[Orlando RMF]

Got turned down I give Megatron and 5.7 for Lacy and 1.1 Rookie.

 

[Sabertooth]

Team A acquired: Jordan Cameron, 2014 3rd round (35th)

Team B acquired: Jordan Reed, 2014 2nd rounder (23rd)

 

[maxhyde]

Team A acquired: Jordan Cameron, 2014 3rd round (35th)

Team B acquired: Jordan Reed, 2014 2nd rounder (23rd)

Cameron side for me

 

[JonB86]

Gave Toby Gerhart ($7), Daryl Richardson ($1), Reggie Wayne ($11) (D-Rich and Wayne for salary cap relief so I can sign my draft picks)

Got: 2.04 ($8), 2015 2nd ($6-8)

Cap is a 1000 bucks and I had a full roster of 27 guys, now have 24 guys with more to cut as I have 7 upcoming picks as of right now!

The deal offered was 2.04 and 2015 2nd for Toby G, I asked for him to take the other two to get my cap/roster more in order =)

It's a devy league but inaugral year so the 2.04 this year is worth the 2.04, the 2015 2nd I would devalue 8 to 10 picks (I'm sure a few of the devys will bust)

 

[Louche]

12-team Tiered PPR with big game bonuses, IDP with DL and DB premium.

Team A acquired: Michael Crabtree + Vernon Davis + Michael Brockers

Team B (rebuilding team) acquired: Antonio Brown + Morgan Burnett + Tank Carradine + cap relief

 

[Nero]

I gave 1.3, 1.12, 2.12

1 received Gronkowski, CJ2K

 

[doowain]

I gave 1.3, 1.12, 2.12

1 received Gronkowski, CJ2K

Gronk and it isn't close.

 

[One More Rep]

Team A acquired: Jordan Cameron, 2014 3rd round (35th)

Team B acquired: Jordan Reed, 2014 2nd rounder (23rd)

Cameron

 

[ghostguy123]

I gave 1.3, 1.12, 2.12

1 received Gronkowski, CJ2K

Thats not nearly enough for just gronk.

 

[Nero]

I gave 1.3, 1.12, 2.12

1 received Gronkowski, CJ2K

Thats not nearly enough for just gronk.

I feel a little slimy, but I just accepted what was offered.

 

[ghostguy123]

I gave 1.3, 1.12, 2.12

1 received Gronkowski, CJ2K

Thats not nearly enough for just gronk.

I feel a little slimy, but I just accepted what was offered.

It's not some veto worthy deal or anything. Maybe the owner thought you were giving HIM CJ1K, lol.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

greg olsen

for

1.09

 

[One More Rep]

greg olsen

for

1.09

1.9 for me