*Official 1st Day Draft Thread -Round 1 - Round 3* (2 Viewers)

[Memphis Foundry]

20. MIN - Kenechi Udeze, DE, USC

 

[Marc Levin]

I was unaware Carey had played 4 spots along the line. At 6'4" 335, he is bigger than Todd Wade at the RT spot, and St Crap can play inside at RG - James at LG (gotta put the best OL at the A-Gap) and the phins actually succeeded in rebuilding their starting OL.Very thin, though - one injury to a starter - like Dixon last year - and Ricky won't have any running room.

 

[BassNBrew]

that sucks...Miami could have made a deal to move down so someone could grab Jackson in front of Dallas.Vikings probably would have grabbed Udezi anyway.bad move.

Very bad move.

 

[CanadianNFLJunkie]

Tommy Kramer, gotta like this pick...he was double or tripled teamed most of the times and played with a bad shoulder plus a lot on the LDE so I'm happy with this pick. Wonder if the Vikes will trade up with their two back-to-back picks in the 4th for something in the 3rd?

 

[Pskov1420]

Pats take Gamble as replacement/insurance for Law?

 

[Huskylaw]

Get ready for NE fans to come pouring in.

 

[Marc Levin]

that sucks...Miami could have made a deal to move down so someone could grab Jackson in front of Dallas.Vikings probably would have grabbed Udezi anyway.bad move.

Not really - they were talking that the Vikes had Carey rated higher than Andrews. The phins could not afford to lose on a top OL in this draft. I think they actually got the 2nd best OLineman in the draft, too, but I'd have been psyched for Andrews just as much.Wow, Wilfork is now the best value on the board.

 

[Mario Kart]

UPDATE

Round 1

1 (TRADE) N.Y. Giants - Eli Manning, QB, Mississippi give up 3rd 2004, & 1st & 5th 2005

2 Oakland - Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa

3 Arizona - Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Pittsburgh

4 (TRADE) San Diego - Philip Rivers, QB, NC State gain 3rd 2004, 1st & 5th round 2005

5 Washington - Sean Taylor, S, MIA

6(TRADE) Cleveland - Kellen Winslow, TE, Mia give 2nd round pick 2004

7 (TRADE) Detroit - Roy Williams, WR, Texas gain 2nd round 2004

8 Atlanta - DeAngelo Hall, CB, Va. Tech

9 Jacksonville - Reggie Williams, WR, Wahington

10 Houston - Dunta Robinson, CB, South Carolina

11 Pittsburgh - Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Miami of Ohio

12 N.Y. Jets - Jonathan Vilma, LB, MIA

13 Buffalo - Lee Evans, WR, Wisconsin

14 Chicago - Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma

15 Tampa Bay - Michael Clayton, WR, LSU

16 (TRADE) Philadelphia - Shawn Andrews, OT, Arkansas gave up round 2 2004

17 Denver (from Cincinnati) - D. J. Williams, LB, Miami

18 New Orleans - Will Smith, DE, Ohio State

19 (TRADE) Miami - Vernon Carey, OG, Miami gave up 4th round 2004

20 (TRADE) Minnesota - Kenechi Udeze, DE, USC gain 4th round 2004

21 New England (from Baltimore)

 

[Marc Levin]

Pats take Gamble as replacement/insurance for Law?

I hope so - Gamble will bust in the NFL.

 

[Chris Smith]

Very bad move.

I don't mind it. They absolutely had to get Carey there to shore up the offensive line that was looking very shaky.He will make the offense much better. If they had to blow a 4th round pick to get him, I say 'Good Move'

 

[CanadianNFLJunkie]

Gamble should slide all the way into the 2nd round from what I've heard of late. Look for Wilfork or trade down.Wonder if Baltimore wants to trade their 2005 #1 for something now??

 

[jamny]

Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled to get Carey and even would have been hapy at #20. But to lose a pick is bull####.Even I managed to get a 2nd rounder (for a 3rd) and pick up Carey in the first GRID mock.

 

[Chris Smith]

How about the Patriots taking a Stephen Jackson like the Saints took Deuce McAllister a couple of years back?Dillon isn't a spring chicken anymore...

 

[Marc Levin]

Get ready for NE fans to come pouring in.

Whining that they should have seats in the front?

 

[cosjobs]

I hope so - Gamble will bust in the NFL.

Disagree. Will lead league in picks... and in getting burnt, but be a top 10 CB by 3rd year.

 

[beto]

I hope so - Gamble will bust in the NFL.

If he keeps dropping he won't be considered a bust, but you may be right and he won't be good in the NFL.

 

[jamny]

Not really - they were talking that the Vikes had Carey rated higher than Andrews. The phins could not afford to lose on a top OL in this draft. I think they actually got the 2nd best OLineman in the draft, too, but I'd have been psyched for Andrews just as much.Wow, Wilfork is now the best value on the board.

they could have risked Minny grabbing him and still maybe get Smiley and another pick.Oh well...welcome to Miami Vernon!

 

[9985]

I don't mind it. They absolutely had to get Carey there to shore up the offensive line that was looking very shaky.He will make the offense much better. If they had to blow a 4th round pick to get him, I say 'Good Move'

And smart thinking by the Vikes to hold them hostage and score a free 4th-rounder.Partial hijack, the same thing happened to me in my fantasy baseball draft this year. I waited on 1B way longer than anyone, and a guy in our league recognized what I was doing, with only one decent 1B left on the board (Konerko), he skunked me and I had to deal with him to get my guy. Fortunately, he was reasonable and I didn't have to give up much.

 

[Chris Smith]

And smart thinking by the Vikes to hold them hostage and score a free 4th-rounder.Partial hijack, the same thing happened to me in my fantasy baseball draft this year. I waited on 1B way longer than anyone, and a guy in our league recognized what I was doing, with only one decent 1B left on the board (Konerko), he skunked me and I had to deal with him to get my guy. Fortunately, he was reasonable and I didn't have to give up much.

Agreed very smart move by the Vikes.

 

[Mario Kart]

If he keeps dropping he won't be considered a bust, but you may be right and he won't be good in the NFL.

rumors in Green Bay is that they are eyeing Gamble at 25

 

[9985]

How about the Patriots taking a Stephen Jackson like the Saints took Deuce McAllister a couple of years back?Dillon isn't a spring chicken anymore...

I thought the same thing, but I'd imagine they plug D-line with Big Ted gone. They did win a SB with Faulk and Ant-Smith, after all...

 

[Marc Levin]

Very bad move.

:coughcough:SOUR GRAPES:coughcough:I don't think it is a "very" bad move, but I do think they reached a bit. The team has been kind of running scared for a while this off season - jumped the gun with next year's 2nd for Feely when tons of able QBs were JUST about to come free and then trading up one spot for fear of the Viking taking their guy.I'm sure the trade in the works for Feely was the primary thing that caused Marino to re-retire after only 9 days.

 

[CanadianNFLJunkie]

OOPS

 

[XNOUGHT]

We have Wilfork, Jackson, AND Joena as options :wacko: Who the heck are we goign to pick!?!?

 

[Chris Smith]

:coughcough:SOUR GRAPES:coughcough:I don't think it is a "very" bad move, but I do think they reached a bit. The team has been kind of running scared for a while this off season - jumped the gun with next year's 2nd for Feely when tons of able QBs were JUST about to come free and then trading up one spot for fear of the Viking taking their guy.I'm sure the trade in the works for Feely was the primary thing that caused Marino to re-retire after only 9 days.

Great comments Marc...Agree completely!

 

[Huskylaw]

How about the Patriots taking a Stephen Jackson like the Saints took Deuce McAllister a couple of years back?Dillon isn't a spring chicken anymore...

B.B. doing it to spite Parcells wouldn't surprise me at all!

 

[Marc Levin]

If he keeps dropping he won't be considered a bust, but you may be right and he won't be good in the NFL.

If he busts in the NFL, any selection in the first three rounds is wasted, right?I think they'll start calling him "Screen" - WRs will be brushing by him at the line like he was a screen door.

 

[9985]

ESPN's speculating that NE might hold Dallas hostage for S. Jackson.Big Tuna vs. Big Hooded Sweatshirt

 

[Pskov1420]

Detriot to trade for NE pick with their 2 2nds (maybe a 4th or something also) and take Jackson?

 

[Memphis Foundry]

21. NE - Vince Wilfork, DT, Miami

 

[9985]

Solid play by NE, as always.

 

[Marc Levin]

If the Pats took Gamble over Wilfork, I'd have lost all respect for BB's ability to evaluate talent.

 

[Chris Smith]

predictable pick.. Nice job by the Patsies

 

[CanadianNFLJunkie]

Future NG for NE, good pick in my eyes.

 

[Capella]

Man the Pats are doing some great things right now.

 

[Huskylaw]

Solid play by NE, as always.

Yep, smart move for the Pats.ESPN radio was reporting the reason he dropped was concerns that he might not be able to control his weight.

 

[Chris Smith]

I think with the Patriots, we are seeing the dynasty of this era... They continue to make great choice after great choice after great choice

 

[XNOUGHT]

WE GOT BINGO!



Vince Wilfork is the SOD baby. Huge steal. No one will be running on that Patriots defense.

 

[Chris Smith]

WE GOT BINGO!

No one will be running on that Patriots defense.

Agreed. Almost impossible to run on this team.

 

[suspected]

great value pick, gotta love NE's young talented DL!

 

[Marc Levin]

Yep, smart move for the Pats.ESPN radio was reporting the reason he dropped was concerns that he might not be able to control his weight.

Even as a tub of goo, getting off the line fast at NG, he'll be a Sapp like player for the Pats.He kept the weight down in college, he'll do the same by the end of training camp for the Pats.

 

[CanadianNFLJunkie]

So what's going to be more obvious Fitz to 'zona or SJacks to Dallas?

 

[BassNBrew]

Thanks Ravens.I hope you cough on Boller! Who's he throwing to anyway?Look what you could have had.

 

[Mario Kart]

Green Bay better not pick Losman... that would be the biggest waste in the 1st round... or any round.

 

[dparker713]

Vince Wilfork is the SOD baby. Huge steal. No one will be running on that Patriots defense.

Thats fine, cause if the refs actually call PI, then teams wont need to run to beat NE.

 

[Hendo]

thats so sickening... the rich keep getting richer. wilfork was the steal of the draft.... so far.

 

[Native]

Seymour, Warren, Wilfolk, Traylor. Whose gonna run on the Pats front four????

 

[BassNBrew]

:coughcough:SOUR GRAPES:coughcough:I don't think it is a "very" bad move, but I do think they reached a bit. The team has been kind of running scared for a while this off season - jumped the gun with next year's 2nd for Feely when tons of able QBs were JUST about to come free and then trading up one spot for fear of the Viking taking their guy.I'm sure the trade in the works for Feely was the primary thing that caused Marino to re-retire after only 9 days.

No sour grapes here. No need to draft a G in the first round. Problably just gave the homeboys the Capella jinx.

 

[Marc Levin]

Hmmmm, who will Dal;las take?? I wonder.

 

[Capella]

I think with the Patriots, we are seeing the dynasty of this era... They continue to make great choice after great choice after great choice

Well, they certainly have a shot, but so many things have to happen to win back-to-back titles. They are putting themselves in that positon though, to make themselves one.