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I think the team needed to get out to a fast start to forget all the that went on this offseason. The fact that they have a brutal 8 game stretch right around the corner puts a little more emphasis on the fast start too. Either way, it's nice to see some promise from a team that many had as pegged to be one of the worst in the league this year. The defense (front 7 in particular) has been the real eye opener. If they can keep it up, they should be able to give their offense a chance against the better teams on the schedule.
1st in points against so far (6.5 per game). Obviously the season is only 2 games in, but this is a vast improvement over last year's version already. We'll see how they hold up the rest of the year, but they have been very impressive thus far.
I will give you that, but the problem is ALL Orton can do is 'manage' the game.I don't see WR's catching the ball in stride for much YAC. Marshal's TD example aside, that was mostly Marshal.
hey man your team is undefeated after four games. they're coming off a win against dallas, who came into the game with the no. one rushing O and a nice D. why think negative? why can't your team think SB? i can understand thinkind WWCutlerD but ortons ok enough to feel good about.
I usually am positive but I live in Lion-land and had to watch 3 hrs of Cutler followed by 3 hrs of Orton.
early October now and I'm revising to an 8 win season at the floor. 4-0 right now with three games left vs oak and KC. Broncos win those and one other and you've got 8 wins. VERY impressed with this D. Stout vs the run, scoring D is phenomenal, getting some nice turnovers, FANTASTIC rush, Champ still playing at a very high level, Dawkins bringing both the energy and the hits...man, this D is more than I could have dreamed it could be. I didn't believe in it this far based on the caliber of the competition, but they did a very nice job vs Dallas today.The O still feels like they haven't figured things out yet, and I'm getting nervous. Orton has some serious accuracy problems. He's making good reads and decisions (from what I can see), but the ball isn't getting where it needs to go. I'm hoping that as the finger heals, he gains some accuracy. i don't think we need pin-point accuracy, just a slight improvement would make a world of difference. 0 int's and 4-0 so I'm not complaining.Running game - overall it looked very good. Short yardage usage remains a quesiton mark to me. They couldn't get it done last week vs oak, they struggled with short yardage today. I have no idea why they had a DL running lead blocker on a critical 4th and one play - dude tripped, and never made it to Brookings, who absolutely blew up the play. I hope Buckhalter is OK, but I'm selfishly looking forward to see what Moreno could do if he had 20-25 carries.McD has got to find a way to get Royal involved. When he does that, everyone who is dropping Royal will look silly. I don't know why it hasn't happened yet, but I'm positive it will.
moleculo said:
I wanted to reserve judgment on all the offseason moves and it was hard trying to figure out WTF was going on some of the time. Well it looks like there was a method to all the madness. Five wins won't clinch the playoffs, but this team is on the right track.
Don't be so sure... this *IS* the AFC West we're talking about, here.
actually the chargers are unlucky to not be 3-1. That balt game was very winnableyour boys have impressed me so far this year, nice win at home vs NE.
pretty sure you guys choked it away last year with the lead in the division, the chargers just won when they had to.If SD wins on Monday its 5-1 and 3-2. Harldy a giant leadAnd they could have lost the Oakland game. They could be 1-3. It goes both ways. What matters is they are 2-2.What's great is you know Chargers fans were thinking, "Gah, another slow start, but the AFC West is so crappy, they can eventually get things going, and still win the division." That probably will not be the case. Norv and his team aren't gonna be able to backdoor their way to an 8-8 division title this year.
It's not the lead the Chargers should be concerned about. It's how the respective teams have looked on the field.pretty sure you guys choked it away last year with the lead in the division, the chargers just won when they had to.If SD wins on Monday its 5-1 and 3-2. Harldy a giant leadAnd they could have lost the Oakland game. They could be 1-3. It goes both ways. What matters is they are 2-2.
That "difficult schedule on paper" is overrated, and mostly a product of preseason hype. Copy/pasting from another thread:
If Denver splits with SD and beats Wash/KC/Oak/KC, then Denver's 10-6 even if they lose to Baltimore/Pitt/NYG/Indy/Philly. For SD to match Denver at 10-6 (again, assuming a split), they'd need to go 7-3 against their remaining schedule. Doable, but difficult given they have the Giants, Eagles, and Bengals left to play. And if either team is capable of blowing a division game against KC or Oakland, so far SD looks like the more likely candidate.Denver's upcoming scheduleSan Diego (2-2)BYE@ Baltimore (3-2)Vs. Pittsburgh (3-2)@ Washington (2-3)Vs. San Diego (2-2)Vs. NYGiants (5-0)@ Kansas City (0-5)@ Indy (5-0)Vs. Oakland (1-4)@ Philly (4-1)Vs. Kansas City (0-5)Total record of remaining opponents: 27-26Record of previous opponents (not counting games against Denver): 12-8
today is even better!!!Six-and-Holy Crap, we're undefeated!!!When Gruden was singing the praises of Denver tonight, I cried a little bit on the inside. After all we as fans went through this off-season, it's absolutely amazing to be on top of the football world.
win first six games. check.
oh good --- here's another one.
I agee with Moleculo this year will be 5 wins +/-1.
But boy does Josh look cool in his hoody. I vowed not to go to a game this year, but I just might go to just hassle him or I might try and go to his coaches show at the restaurant and throw food at him. One has to have something to build on in this pathetic year.
'mcdork'......good one.Amen my brother, Amen. That's all I got.
I would like to start a scrapbook of these.
BRILLIANT!!!
yes, if you keep looking, you will find tons of other posts where I badmouthed the direction of the Broncos in April. I was not pleased back then, which makes the turn-around even more exhilarating.
Keep 'em comin GJ. see if you can find the one where I said Pat Bowlen should sell the team. Ha Ha I was pretty pissed. SSOG called me out, and he was right. I wouldn't say I jumped off the bandwagon, I've been on it for 37 years so far, but I was pissed and vented in the wrong way.
Same here. I was royally pissed, as I was convinced Bowlen hiring McDaniels had set the team back for years. Man, was I wrong! And I happy to have been so wrong.
There is plenty of room from the '97 and '98 wagon....just need to grease the wheels.
I didn't throw a thing away. I still wear my T.D. jersey on game days, and my Broncos cap every time I go to the gym (3-4 times a week).
I noticed Rivers jawing all game long, too. I wonder if Yudkin is still going to insist that Rivers isn't a trash talker.God, I was so tired of losing to the Chargers, to win that game tonight AT San Diego felt great, and the way they won it, knocking the crap out of Rivers, felt even better. 6-0. Unbelievable.
Yeah. We have to make room for you.Seriously, you can't show up today and say that and expect us to take you seriously. Where were you a month and a half ago, guy?
I wasn't on footballguys, so I guess I was nowhere.sorry, brutha.
No problem, hop aboard, plenty of room on the bandwagon. It's a party right now, let's enjoy the here and now. The more the merrier.
Probably. Some of us were willing to see what was on the field before jumping to conclusions. That said, none of us saw a 6-0 start on the horizon.I'll bet at the end of the season if they take this division I won't be able to find a single person who ever said a bad word about their ownership, management, or coaching staff.everybody'll be out sportin' the colors.
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
I know I've said it before, but I never felt the hatred for the Chargers that I do for the Raiders. I like their uniforms, I think their city is great, I've always been a Schottenheimer fan (mostly because I felt that SOMEONE had to appreciate just how great of a coach he really was), and I think Tomlinson and Gates and Merriman have just been fun players to watch. I'm starting to grow some dislike for them pretty much entirely because I hate Philip Rivers, but still, if one non-Denver AFC West team is going to succeed, I want it to be San Diego. And they were never going to succeed under Turner. Jeremy Foley, Florida's athletic director, lives by the motto that "anything that must be done eventually must be done immediately", and I think everyone knows that Turner's going to have to be fired eventually... so if this is what it takes to get it done immediately, then this is a positive step for the Chargers.
some other comparisons so far:the '77 team went 6-0 before they lost their first game. At seasons end, they had the #3 scoring D, and #10 scoring O. So far, this years Broncos are the #1 scoring D and #10 scoring O.
