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Burrows is amazing. Did he kick a camera into position without looking at a monitor? Sometimes I think he does that just for effect.
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***OFFICIAL*** 2013 New TV Show Cancellation Contest (Maik J wins) (1 Viewer)
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"Betrayal" next?
This is why the NFL will continue to extract billions of dollars from the TV networks — even a lopsided game with no suspense or intrigue like San Francisco’s 34-3 rout of Houston last night dominated everything else in primetime. In the metered markets, NBC’s Sunday Night Football averaged an 11.6/11, only 1% below the corresponding game last fall, and is expected to deliver a nightly win for the network in adults 18-49.
Betrayal is following in the footsteps of fellow new ABC drama Lucky 7 on a path toward early cancellation. In its second week, the infidelity drama posted a 1.1, down 27% from its underwhelming premiere. Its lead-in, Revenge (1.9), also was down double-digits (17%) from its third-season debut as its reboot under a new showrunner is yet to take hold, while Once Upon A Time (2.5) held steady, down a tenth (4%).
Fox’s comedy lineup also was par with premiere Sunday with the exception of Bob’s Burgers (1.9, down 14%). Its lead-in, veteran The Simpsons (2.9), just renewed for a 26th (!) season, didn’t get a Treehouse Of Horror boost — it was even with last week and the highest-rated entertainment program of the night in 18-49. Family Guy (2.5) was down by a tenth, American Dad (2.1) was flat. Once again no reliable overnight ratings for CBS’ Sunday lineup because of a 44-minute NFL overrun and a local NFL pre-emption in San Diego, but the Broncos-Cowboys heroics are expected to bag a nightly win in total viewers for the network.
This is why the NFL will continue to extract billions of dollars from the TV networks — even a lopsided game with no suspense or intrigue like San Francisco’s 34-3 rout of Houston last night dominated everything else in primetime. In the metered markets, NBC’s Sunday Night Football averaged an 11.6/11, only 1% below the corresponding game last fall, and is expected to deliver a nightly win for the network in adults 18-49.
Betrayal is following in the footsteps of fellow new ABC drama Lucky 7 on a path toward early cancellation. In its second week, the infidelity drama posted a 1.1, down 27% from its underwhelming premiere. Its lead-in, Revenge (1.9), also was down double-digits (17%) from its third-season debut as its reboot under a new showrunner is yet to take hold, while Once Upon A Time (2.5) held steady, down a tenth (4%).
Fox’s comedy lineup also was par with premiere Sunday with the exception of Bob’s Burgers (1.9, down 14%). Its lead-in, veteran The Simpsons (2.9), just renewed for a 26th (!) season, didn’t get a Treehouse Of Horror boost — it was even with last week and the highest-rated entertainment program of the night in 18-49. Family Guy (2.5) was down by a tenth, American Dad (2.1) was flat. Once again no reliable overnight ratings for CBS’ Sunday lineup because of a 44-minute NFL overrun and a local NFL pre-emption in San Diego, but the Broncos-Cowboys heroics are expected to bag a nightly win in total viewers for the network.
mad sweeney
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He didn't need to. Everyone there had worked with him so long that I think they shared a telepathic link.
Sarnoff
Footballguy
yeah, I know what you mean. But he still pulls out that trick from time to time, I saw him do it with his vet crew on Will & Grace once in a while back in the day. Maybe there wasn't anyone to show off to. 
Bruce Dickinson
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Sarnoff said:
Na-Na-Na-Na.... Na-Na-Na-Na.... HEY-HEY-HEY... GOODBYE!!!!!! collective
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ABC’s ‘Marvel’s Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.’ Gets Full-Season Pickup
http://www.deadline.com/2013/10/marvels-agents-of-shield-full-season-pickup-abc/
The drama domination this fall continues with another pickup for a freshman hourlong series. ABC has given a back 9 order to Marvel’s Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., bringing its first season to 22 episodes. The series premiered as TV’s highest-rated drama debut in nearly four years and, while it has slipped in Week 2 and Week 3, still ranks as the No. 1 new show of the 2013-14 season among adults 18-49 with solid DVR gains (4.0 Live+Same Day rating/5.7 Live+3 rating). Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. joins Fox’s Sleepy Hollow and NBC’s The Blacklist as the third new series this fall to get a pickup (second season and full-season for the other two dramas, respectively). Marvel’s Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., which marks Marvel’s first television series, was co-created by The Avengers’ Joss Whedon, along with Jed Whedon & Maurissa Tancharoen, who serve as executive producers along with Jeph Loeb and Jeffrey Bell. ABC Studios is co-producing with Marvel.
http://www.deadline.com/2013/10/marvels-agents-of-shield-full-season-pickup-abc/
The drama domination this fall continues with another pickup for a freshman hourlong series. ABC has given a back 9 order to Marvel’s Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., bringing its first season to 22 episodes. The series premiered as TV’s highest-rated drama debut in nearly four years and, while it has slipped in Week 2 and Week 3, still ranks as the No. 1 new show of the 2013-14 season among adults 18-49 with solid DVR gains (4.0 Live+Same Day rating/5.7 Live+3 rating). Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. joins Fox’s Sleepy Hollow and NBC’s The Blacklist as the third new series this fall to get a pickup (second season and full-season for the other two dramas, respectively). Marvel’s Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., which marks Marvel’s first television series, was co-created by The Avengers’ Joss Whedon, along with Jed Whedon & Maurissa Tancharoen, who serve as executive producers along with Jeph Loeb and Jeffrey Bell. ABC Studios is co-producing with Marvel.
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collective
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If you want to watch it online, you can go here: http://www.thedarewall.com/tv/marvels-agents-of-shield
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The CWs The Originals, The Tomorrow People, Reign Get Orders For More Scripts
http://www.deadline.com/2013/10/the-cws-the-originals-the-tomorrow-people-reign-get-orders-for-more-scripts/
The CW has ordered three additional scripts of each of its three new fall series dramas The Originals, The Tomorrow People and Reign. The script pickups come after two airings of The Vampire Diaries spinoff The Originals, one of The Tomorrow People and a week ahead of Reigns premiere next Thursday. (It was pushed because of tonights Cory Monteith episode of Glee.) They also come as the writers of the three series are completing work on the original 13-episode orders. The script orders follow solid showings from The Originals, which premiered to a solid 0.9 rating in adults 18-49 and 1.9 million total viewers in its regular Tuesday 8 PM slot this week after a launch behind TVD, and from The Tomorrow People, which logged a 0.9 and 2.7 million viewers in its debut last night (adjusted up in the finals), matching its lead-in, the Arrow second season premiere.
Script orders are a vote of confidence by a network but dont guarantee a follow-up episodic pickup and are often done when a show is solid and/or liked by the network brass but has not blown up in a big way to warrant a straight Back 9 order. Last fall, the CW had one such breakout hit with Arrow, which received a full-season order. The network gave its other two new shows, Beauty And The Beast and Emily Owens, MD, orders for three additional scripts each. Of the two series one, Beauty And The Beast, went to receive a full-season order while the other, Emily Owens, MD, was cancelled. So far this season, the strongest new series, NBCs The Blacklist, Foxs Sleepy Hollow and ABCs Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D, have received episodic pickups, while Foxs well reviewed but softly rated Brooklyn Nine-Nine, has been given an additional script order.
http://www.deadline.com/2013/10/the-cws-the-originals-the-tomorrow-people-reign-get-orders-for-more-scripts/
The CW has ordered three additional scripts of each of its three new fall series dramas The Originals, The Tomorrow People and Reign. The script pickups come after two airings of The Vampire Diaries spinoff The Originals, one of The Tomorrow People and a week ahead of Reigns premiere next Thursday. (It was pushed because of tonights Cory Monteith episode of Glee.) They also come as the writers of the three series are completing work on the original 13-episode orders. The script orders follow solid showings from The Originals, which premiered to a solid 0.9 rating in adults 18-49 and 1.9 million total viewers in its regular Tuesday 8 PM slot this week after a launch behind TVD, and from The Tomorrow People, which logged a 0.9 and 2.7 million viewers in its debut last night (adjusted up in the finals), matching its lead-in, the Arrow second season premiere.
Script orders are a vote of confidence by a network but dont guarantee a follow-up episodic pickup and are often done when a show is solid and/or liked by the network brass but has not blown up in a big way to warrant a straight Back 9 order. Last fall, the CW had one such breakout hit with Arrow, which received a full-season order. The network gave its other two new shows, Beauty And The Beast and Emily Owens, MD, orders for three additional scripts each. Of the two series one, Beauty And The Beast, went to receive a full-season order while the other, Emily Owens, MD, was cancelled. So far this season, the strongest new series, NBCs The Blacklist, Foxs Sleepy Hollow and ABCs Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D, have received episodic pickups, while Foxs well reviewed but softly rated Brooklyn Nine-Nine, has been given an additional script order.
SlaX
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Not surprising. These type of shows are what CW is all about. It would take a really chitty show to get booted from the CW.
collective
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Gr00vus
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I know I'm not participating in this contest, but I just needed a place to vent, and this seemed like it's sort of on topic. When the Laker game hit garbage time (and boy was it garbage), I thought I'd sample some Thursday night network T.V. Holy #### was it awful. I couldn't sit through 10 minutes of any of it.
The Will Arnet show, the Robin Williams one, the Michael J. Fox one - just unbelievably painful to watch, all of them. Not a funny moment among the 3 of them. Who writes this ####?
Not on topic for this thread, but since I'm venting - after giving up on those, I tried to watch the movie "This Is 40" - it was even worse than the t.v. shows. Apatow needs to take a break for a couple years, maybe hang em up for good. And I wanted to punch the redhead wife chick every time she opened her mouth - one of the worst acting jobs I've ever seen. I will complain more about this in the movie rental thread.
Anyway, if you've got any of those three shows in this thing you should be feeling pretty good.
The Will Arnet show, the Robin Williams one, the Michael J. Fox one - just unbelievably painful to watch, all of them. Not a funny moment among the 3 of them. Who writes this ####?
Not on topic for this thread, but since I'm venting - after giving up on those, I tried to watch the movie "This Is 40" - it was even worse than the t.v. shows. Apatow needs to take a break for a couple years, maybe hang em up for good. And I wanted to punch the redhead wife chick every time she opened her mouth - one of the worst acting jobs I've ever seen. I will complain more about this in the movie rental thread.
Anyway, if you've got any of those three shows in this thing you should be feeling pretty good.
Rove!
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collective
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Ford. I thought I had "We Are Men". I know that I had it has one of my final seven.
Rayderr
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You're one of those guys that keeps making the argument to be able to start all kickers in your fantasy league, aren't you?
for scoring update
Sarnoff
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I got home last night and watched the tail end of the Giants football debacle. Then I figured "I gotta watch something else, just to forget about this." So I checked what was on my TiVo... I figured "It's Thursday night, so TiVo must have recorded something for me to watch." Nope. Nothing. Not a single recording of anything on Thursday night. I had to debate whether I wanted to suffer though last week's NCIS or maybe a Law & Order rerun. But Thursday night programming was a void.
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9 of the 23 entries had "We Are Men". It was the #1 selection by myself, Maik Jeaunz, and Bruce Dickinson. #2 by Jamny, SoCalBroncoFan, and spOOfy. #3 of by_the_sea_wannabe and The Hank. #4 of Cold Dead Hands.
Those having it #1 got 50 base points, a +6 odds bonus, 2.6 unique show points, a -0.6 duplicate rank penalty, 23 points since it was canceled after just 2 airings, and a x1.85 multiplier for being the second show out. Total of 149.85 points.
Those having it #2 got 40 base points, with all the rest the same as above, for 131.35 points.
Picked as #3 got 30 base points, but only a -0.4 duplication penalty, with everything else the same for 113.22 points.
And Cold Dead Hands' pick as #4 started with 20 base points and no duplication penalty, for 95.46 points.
Those having it #1 got 50 base points, a +6 odds bonus, 2.6 unique show points, a -0.6 duplicate rank penalty, 23 points since it was canceled after just 2 airings, and a x1.85 multiplier for being the second show out. Total of 149.85 points.
Those having it #2 got 40 base points, with all the rest the same as above, for 131.35 points.
Picked as #3 got 30 base points, but only a -0.4 duplication penalty, with everything else the same for 113.22 points.
And Cold Dead Hands' pick as #4 started with 20 base points and no duplication penalty, for 95.46 points.
Fennis
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Bruce Dickinson
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Rove!
Footballguy
what a ridiculous and uncalled for statement
you sound like one of those guys who think FF positions should be drafted separately
Rove!
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Aerial Assault
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Crap, I should have done this. Next season.
As for the Thursday night void, it really is weird, after so many good shows (L.A. Law, ER, Friends of course, Cheers, etc.) being aired on that night - - and those were all NBC shows. I didn't understand, for example, why CBS moved Person of Interest to Tuesdays.
It's very strange to check out the DVR and see almost nothing recorded on a Thursday night. Are they worried about football?
As for the Thursday night void, it really is weird, after so many good shows (L.A. Law, ER, Friends of course, Cheers, etc.) being aired on that night - - and those were all NBC shows. I didn't understand, for example, why CBS moved Person of Interest to Tuesdays.
It's very strange to check out the DVR and see almost nothing recorded on a Thursday night. Are they worried about football?collective
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Fox orders 6 more 'Dads' scripts
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/10/11/dads-6-scripts/?
Fox’s Dads is sticking around at least a little longer.
The network has ordered six additional scripts for the Seth MacFarlane-produced Tuesday night comedy series, a sign that there are no plans to yank the show from the schedule anytime soon.
Dads wasn’t much liked by critics, to put it lightly — it actually managed a 0 percent average on Rotten Tomatoes. It has also struggled in the ratings, the most recent episode averaging 3.1 million viewers and a 1.3 rating among adults 18-49 at 8 p.m. though the previous episode, worth as always to point out, went up 31 percent with the first three days of DVR playback. Fellow new Fox comedy Brooklyn Nine-Nine, which is doing a bit better, received an order for additional scripts last week.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/10/11/dads-6-scripts/?
Fox’s Dads is sticking around at least a little longer.
The network has ordered six additional scripts for the Seth MacFarlane-produced Tuesday night comedy series, a sign that there are no plans to yank the show from the schedule anytime soon.
Dads wasn’t much liked by critics, to put it lightly — it actually managed a 0 percent average on Rotten Tomatoes. It has also struggled in the ratings, the most recent episode averaging 3.1 million viewers and a 1.3 rating among adults 18-49 at 8 p.m. though the previous episode, worth as always to point out, went up 31 percent with the first three days of DVR playback. Fellow new Fox comedy Brooklyn Nine-Nine, which is doing a bit better, received an order for additional scripts last week.
Rove!
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seems they are trying to capitilize on all of the bad press and get people curious enough to start watching...
Sarnoff
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Politics is part of the game. The only reason "Veronica's Closet" stayed on the air was that Bright/Kauffman/Crane threatened to take "Friends" to ABC at the end of every season unless NBC bought both shows. FOX will do anything to keep Seth MacFarlane happy as long as they can, no way "Dads" would be an early casualty.
collective
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http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/10/18/cbs-orders-more-crazy-ones-the-millers-and-mom/
Robin Williams just earned a full-season order: CBS announced that it has picked up a full season of its three new freshman comedies, The Crazy Ones, The Millers and Mom.
CBS points out that The Crazy Ones, starring Williams, is this season’s No. 1 new comedy in viewers (13.7 million), adults 18-49 (3.6 rating/10 share) and adults 25-54 (4.8/12). It also wins its Thursday time period in viewers.
The Millers ranks as the number two comedy in viewers (12.4 million), adults 18-49 (3.2/09) and adults 25-54 (4.3/11). Last night, it retained 97 percent of its premiere rating in adults 18-49, 98 percent in adults 25-54 and 93 percent of its premiere audience. Mom is the third most watched new comedy, averaging 7.98 million viewers, and earning a 2.6/06 in adults 18-49 and a 3.2/07 in adults 25-54.
“We’re proud of CBS’ leadership position in comedy and excited to build on it with the back nine pick-ups of these three new comedies,” said CBS President Nina Tassler in a statement. “These series are creatively distinct, continue to improve each week and are led by strong showrunners, writing and production staffs, and feature amazingly talented casts.”
Robin Williams just earned a full-season order: CBS announced that it has picked up a full season of its three new freshman comedies, The Crazy Ones, The Millers and Mom.
CBS points out that The Crazy Ones, starring Williams, is this season’s No. 1 new comedy in viewers (13.7 million), adults 18-49 (3.6 rating/10 share) and adults 25-54 (4.8/12). It also wins its Thursday time period in viewers.
The Millers ranks as the number two comedy in viewers (12.4 million), adults 18-49 (3.2/09) and adults 25-54 (4.3/11). Last night, it retained 97 percent of its premiere rating in adults 18-49, 98 percent in adults 25-54 and 93 percent of its premiere audience. Mom is the third most watched new comedy, averaging 7.98 million viewers, and earning a 2.6/06 in adults 18-49 and a 3.2/07 in adults 25-54.
“We’re proud of CBS’ leadership position in comedy and excited to build on it with the back nine pick-ups of these three new comedies,” said CBS President Nina Tassler in a statement. “These series are creatively distinct, continue to improve each week and are led by strong showrunners, writing and production staffs, and feature amazingly talented casts.”
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NBC has canceled "Welcome to the Family" effective immediately.
Also canceled "Ironside", although it will have 1 more airdate before being removed from the schedule. That airdate will not count in this contest as the cancellation notice precedes it.
"Sean Saves the World" has not been picked up yet, but NBC has asked to see 4 additional scripts before deciding it's fate.
Also canceled "Ironside", although it will have 1 more airdate before being removed from the schedule. That airdate will not count in this contest as the cancellation notice precedes it.
"Sean Saves the World" has not been picked up yet, but NBC has asked to see 4 additional scripts before deciding it's fate.
Sarnoff
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Maik Jeaunz, AcerFC, and Fennis had "Welcome to the Family". Slax, nick vermiel, Fat Nick, jamny, Maik Jeaunz, collective, AcerFC, hodor, SoCalBroncoFan, Cold Dead Hands, and Rove! all had "Ironside". Scoring to come. I believe according to the rules, "Ironside" is the 3rd show out (last aired 10/16) and "Welcome to the Family" 4th (last aired 10/17) for bonus scoring purposes.
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apalmer
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yeah, but you have to recognize real talent when you see it--it's not easy for a writer to make Robin Williams boring and unfunny, but these guys managed it.
Ministry of Pain
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The Millers is pretty funny, has a chance to be a long running show. Good family structure, lot of people have at least one of these types in their family, kind of the next Raymond type show but a slightly edgier comedy.
collective
Footballguy
I doubt it. NBC loves Sean Hayes. He has two shows that his production company produces on NBC. He will have a longer leash than others.
Plus they did just order four more scripts.
Sarnoff
Footballguy
I actually miscalculated the previous scoring in the "duplicate rank" penalty section. I have to recalculate some scores, but they shouldn't be off by more than some decimals. I accidentally forgot to remove the picker's own selection from the count of duplicate entries, so I penalized too harshly. I made this mistake last season, too, IIRC. Keep forgetting about the wording of the rule.
Sarnoff
Footballguy
Corrected scores for "Lucky 7":
158.4 for Corporation & Trd Ferguson
135.4 for Nick Vermeil & myself
78.8 for Bruce Dickinson
For "We Are Men":
150.22 for Maik Jeaunz, Bruce Dickinson & myself
131.72 for jamny, SoCalBroncoFan, and spOOfy
113.59 for by_the_sea_wannabe and The Hank
95.46 for Cold Dead Hands
158.4 for Corporation & Trd Ferguson
135.4 for Nick Vermeil & myself
78.8 for Bruce Dickinson
For "We Are Men":
150.22 for Maik Jeaunz, Bruce Dickinson & myself
131.72 for jamny, SoCalBroncoFan, and spOOfy
113.59 for by_the_sea_wannabe and The Hank
95.46 for Cold Dead Hands
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Scoring for "Ironside":
145.52 for Nick Vermeil, jamny, SoCalBroncoFan, Cold Dead Hands (50 rank + 12 bonus + 2.2 unique pts - 0.6 dupe penalty + 22 air bonus x 1.7)
128.52 for Fat Nick, Collective, Acer FC, Rove! (40 rank, and the above)
112.54 for Hodor (30 rank points, no penalty)
95.54 for Maik Jeaunz (20 rank points, no penalty)
78.54 for Slax (10 rank points, no penalty)
145.52 for Nick Vermeil, jamny, SoCalBroncoFan, Cold Dead Hands (50 rank + 12 bonus + 2.2 unique pts - 0.6 dupe penalty + 22 air bonus x 1.7)
128.52 for Fat Nick, Collective, Acer FC, Rove! (40 rank, and the above)
112.54 for Hodor (30 rank points, no penalty)
95.54 for Maik Jeaunz (20 rank points, no penalty)
78.54 for Slax (10 rank points, no penalty)
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