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***Official 2014 Golf Thread*** (1 Viewer)

Whistling Straits - my new favorite course. unbelievable. the 18th hole is just a breathtaking hole, even though I doubled it. 10/10

The Irish - If it wasn't for the Straits, this course would get more props. really, really good. not the views you get on the Straits, but lots of fun, and not too hard to walk. 8/10

Blackwolf River Course - replaces Waterville in Ireland as the hardest course I've ever played. Waist high grass if you get off the fairway, just hit another. A fantastic course though, uses the Sheboygan river really well, and the best greens we played all week. 9/10

Blackwolf Meadow Valley - Same as above, the red-headed stepchild to the River Course, but really solid in its own right. would recommend. 7.5/10

Erin Hills - the toughest walk I've ever encountered. Absolutely beautiful course with amazing bunkering. no water at all. The pros are going to love it in 2017. 18th hole plays 660, can play over 700. Rolling hills among a field of tall, yellow grass. 9.5/10.

I'd put this trip right up there with Bandon Dunes, maybe even a little better. Not a bad course in the package. And easier to get to. The American Club is an awesome hotel, although a little pricey. If I do it again, I might stay at Erin Hills. All the caddies were great.
Nice. Mind if I ask how it compared price-wise to Bandon? Me and some buddies are trying to plan a mega golf trip next year.

 
Zow said:
Whistling Straits - my new favorite course. unbelievable. the 18th hole is just a breathtaking hole, even though I doubled it. 10/10

The Irish - If it wasn't for the Straits, this course would get more props. really, really good. not the views you get on the Straits, but lots of fun, and not too hard to walk. 8/10

Blackwolf River Course - replaces Waterville in Ireland as the hardest course I've ever played. Waist high grass if you get off the fairway, just hit another. A fantastic course though, uses the Sheboygan river really well, and the best greens we played all week. 9/10

Blackwolf Meadow Valley - Same as above, the red-headed stepchild to the River Course, but really solid in its own right. would recommend. 7.5/10

Erin Hills - the toughest walk I've ever encountered. Absolutely beautiful course with amazing bunkering. no water at all. The pros are going to love it in 2017. 18th hole plays 660, can play over 700. Rolling hills among a field of tall, yellow grass. 9.5/10.

I'd put this trip right up there with Bandon Dunes, maybe even a little better. Not a bad course in the package. And easier to get to. The American Club is an awesome hotel, although a little pricey. If I do it again, I might stay at Erin Hills. All the caddies were great.
Nice. Mind if I ask how it compared price-wise to Bandon? Me and some buddies are trying to plan a mega golf trip next year.
Lot of variables, but comparing apples to apples, Kohler was a little more. If you don't stay at the American Club, probably very close to equal. Kohler is cheaper to get to
 
Next summer, I'm looking at one of these:

1. Pinehurst

2. Kiawah Island - had no idea there were 5 courses there

3. Robert Trent Jones Trail

4. Bandon again

 
I haven't played regularly since we had our second kid about 8 years ago. Right before I stopped playing, I played 1-2 times a week and shot low-mid 80s with an occasional round the high 70s.

Hit balls yesterday for the first time in about 4 years. Played my first 9 in about that same time frame this afternoon. Hit the ball surprisingly well. Took my boys out with me. They loved it. Think I've got the bug again.

 
Ordered my first new set of clubs in 9 years. Calloway Apex Pros. They should be in later this week.

Craziest thing whenever I get fitted for lie. When I put the club down it looks like the toe is in the air, so I think I should be playing slightly flat irons. Then they put the tape on the club and the board down and it always shows I should be hitting slightly upright irons. I try to hit upright and it's brutal, I can't. Then I always end up getting standard. :shrug:

 
I haven't played regularly since we had our second kid about 8 years ago. Right before I stopped playing, I played 1-2 times a week and shot low-mid 80s with an occasional round the high 70s.

Hit balls yesterday for the first time in about 4 years. Played my first 9 in about that same time frame this afternoon. Hit the ball surprisingly well. Took my boys out with me. They loved it. Think I've got the bug again.
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Any good drills or tips for golf swing that is coming over the top of the ball?

Lately I have noticed that my divots are not parallel to my body, they are at an angle ending closer to my lead foot. I assume this means I'm coming over the top of the ball and need to swing more inside out instead of outside in? Any thoughts? TIA.

 
Put a broken shaft or a stick in the ground vertically on your target line, maybe a foot behind the ball. It's been awhile, so could be a bit more or less. You'll hit the shaft if you come over the top, which is rather unpleasant.

 
Put a broken shaft or a stick in the ground vertically on your target line, maybe a foot behind the ball. It's been awhile, so could be a bit more or less. You'll hit the shaft if you come

over the top, which is rather unpleasant.
For a safer method, put a stick or tee at a 45 degree angle out and to the right of your ball and try to swing toward it when you swing.

 
Any good drills or tips for golf swing that is coming over the top of the ball?

Lately I have noticed that my divots are not parallel to my body, they are at an angle ending closer to my lead foot. I assume this means I'm coming over the top of the ball and need to swing more inside out instead of outside in? Any thoughts? TIA.
Take a small towel and tuck it in your right armpit and try to keep it there when you swing. Very hard to come over the top if you can keep it there.
 
Thanks for the tips A-Jack, Zow, and joffer . I'll try all three of them and see which one is successful. But I would imagine with these three, one of them should break my bad habit.

Appreciate the help.

 
WTF

I already lost a club from my brand new mizuno mp64s. :( can't find my 4-iron after checking with all my buddies and the last two courses I played. I guess I shouldn't be drinking as much when playing.

 
I miss golfing. Just haven't gone the last few years. Money has been a key component to this amid other things. Anyway, went last week, first time in a few years and had a blast although my conditioning is horrible.

Went to the range yesterday and decided to not swing as hard as I used to but instead be more precise. That worked great, now I just have to go to the course and do it. One thing though, I'm not into the big head drivers. Still carry a Big Bertha Steel driver but hit it maybe twice a round. My brother left the area and I grabbed his Callaway big headed driver (its 5+ years old) and the thing just flew for me. Just massive. He gave me his Great Big Bertha Titanium and I hit that a few times. Pretty decent as well... was flying the ball 230+ (range ball) with an easier swing.

Knowing it is late in the season and if I play more than 5 rounds this remaining year, I'd be surprised, but is there a Callaway driver similar to the two I described above? I looked at some online and they all have fancy screws on the head and nozzle stuff. Just give me a club, old skool.

For reference, I had used stiff shafts before but think a "regular" shaft would be better now. My 8-iron is 140-150 if I am in form... maybe 130 right now. I'd prefer Callaway but looking at a larger headed driver in the future. Thanks.

 
Any good drills or tips for golf swing that is coming over the top of the ball?

Lately I have noticed that my divots are not parallel to my body, they are at an angle ending closer to my lead foot. I assume this means I'm coming over the top of the ball and need to swing more inside out instead of outside in? Any thoughts? TIA.
The current guy I use for lessons fixed this for me in about 2 seconds.

When swinging/hitting the ball, TRY to thin it and hit it across the inside. Don't worry about anything else (picking up your head, etc etc). CATCH IT THIN; CATCH IT INSIDE

Obviously worked for me but might not be for everyone. When I stopped thinking about: head down, swing through, hips down, hands quiet, an the other 800 rules to a golf swing, it cleared my head.

This cured the problem for me within 10 balls hit. I'd try this before actually going through any drills.

 
I've been meaning to ask.

Do any of you guys play on WGT.com when you're not on the real links?

It would be nice to set up a FBG Country Club

If you don't know - it's a VERY challenging golf game you can play on PC or iPad

Although playing is free, upgrades and whatnot are very expensive (you can earn credits through filling out surveys or watching videos thought)

 
I've been meaning to ask.

Do any of you guys play on WGT.com when you're not on the real links?

It would be nice to set up a FBG Country Club

If you don't know - it's a VERY challenging golf game you can play on PC or iPad

Although playing is free, upgrades and whatnot are very expensive (you can earn credits through filling out surveys or watching videos thought)
I play on the Ipad - never purchased upgrades though. I have the most fun trying to break par on tour difficulty with the generic clubs - it makes it pretty challenging.

 
played one of the most interesting rounds of my life last week shot 72 (par 71) with 2 doubles and 2 bogeys, 5 birdies. had 26 putts, i oneputted 7 of the last 9 holes, avg birdie putt 25 ft. Basically couldn't miss. Makes me wonder what i could score in a round with no mistakes off the tee. the two doubles and the two bogeys were due to bad tee shots. granted putting lights out like that is abnormal but assuming i could play a round with 3 - 4 birdies and no mistakes off the teee i'm shooting 68-9ish at that point. That's where i want to go, soon. Anyone with advice, let me know

 
played one of the most interesting rounds of my life last week shot 72 (par 71) with 2 doubles and 2 bogeys, 5 birdies. had 26 putts, i oneputted 7 of the last 9 holes, avg birdie putt 25 ft. Basically couldn't miss. Makes me wonder what i could score in a round with no mistakes off the tee. the two doubles and the two bogeys were due to bad tee shots. granted putting lights out like that is abnormal but assuming i could play a round with 3 - 4 birdies and no mistakes off the teee i'm shooting 68-9ish at that point. That's where i want to go, soon. Anyone with advice, let me know
If you're playing that kind of golf at decently slope-rated course, I don't think there is anyone here from who you want advice man.

 
Any good drills or tips for golf swing that is coming over the top of the ball?

Lately I have noticed that my divots are not parallel to my body, they are at an angle ending closer to my lead foot. I assume this means I'm coming over the top of the ball and need to swing more inside out instead of outside in? Any thoughts? TIA.
i actually like this with my irons. I want to cut the ball (left to right) so a divot with a path outside in isn't the worst thing. the trick is if you can maintain the clubface. if you're coming outside in you need to have an open clubface to hit the shot true to the target.

expirement: over exaggerate an inside out swing where you take your 7 iron and swing towards right field (1PM on a clock dial, assuming 12 o'clock is target). Note where the ball goes. If the ball starts right and fades, you have an open club face at impact. Next try to swing to 12 o'clock. note where the ball goes (path); if it fades you have an open club face at impact. if it draws you have a closed clubface at impact. If its straight, copy that swing and make it your swing forever. just kidding. Next try to swing outside in where you are having a divot right to left. note where the ball goes. If it still fades, you have an outsisde swing with an open clubhead at impact. if its straight you are square, if it draws, you have the dreaded pull hook.

the two shots you want to master are the inside out swing with a draw and the outside in swing with a fade. both those shots lead back to the target. You want to ignore/eliminate the others. In ordre to hit the draw, you have to close the clubface and swing inside-out, in order to hit the cut you have to open the clubface and swing outside in.

anyhow, make a note of all these swings. Generally speaking the easiest to replicate is either the inside out with the draw or the outside in with the cut. Pick one, and practice that shot. but don't forget the opposite shot, because if you want to work the ball both ways you need to be able to summon the shot as required. As you get better in golf you'll want to be able to hit a draw or a fade on demand. this little exercise will help

 
played one of the most interesting rounds of my life last week shot 72 (par 71) with 2 doubles and 2 bogeys, 5 birdies. had 26 putts, i oneputted 7 of the last 9 holes, avg birdie putt 25 ft. Basically couldn't miss. Makes me wonder what i could score in a round with no mistakes off the tee. the two doubles and the two bogeys were due to bad tee shots. granted putting lights out like that is abnormal but assuming i could play a round with 3 - 4 birdies and no mistakes off the teee i'm shooting 68-9ish at that point. That's where i want to go, soon. Anyone with advice, let me know
If you're playing that kind of golf at decently slope-rated course, I don't think there is anyone here from who you want advice man.
shooter mcGavin might be one, he used to post here. Theres a couple dudes that have shot low in their lives, those are the guys i want advice from. I want to shoot in the 60's

 
played one of the most interesting rounds of my life last week shot 72 (par 71) with 2 doubles and 2 bogeys, 5 birdies. had 26 putts, i oneputted 7 of the last 9 holes, avg birdie putt 25 ft. Basically couldn't miss. Makes me wonder what i could score in a round with no mistakes off the tee. the two doubles and the two bogeys were due to bad tee shots. granted putting lights out like that is abnormal but assuming i could play a round with 3 - 4 birdies and no mistakes off the teee i'm shooting 68-9ish at that point. That's where i want to go, soon. Anyone with advice, let me know
If you're playing that kind of golf at decently slope-rated course, I don't think there is anyone here from who you want advice man.
shooter mcGavin might be one, he used to post here. Theres a couple dudes that have shot low in their lives, those are the guys i want advice from. I want to shoot in the 60's
Work hard on your game with a pro. Or at least work hard on all parts of your game - especially 100 yds and in. If you are really looking to get from a low handicap to a plus, you won't find on any message boards - and especially not here friend.

 
Played my first full round of 18 in about 3-4 years on Saturday. Tight little course that I've only played a few times in the past - a lot of hills, a lot of tight fairways.

Had a rough front nine - actually took me 2 holes to get past the jitters of hitting the ball. Was surprised by that.

Settled down on the back 9 and played some pretty decent golf. 7 pars, 2 bogeys - hit 7 GIR on the back. Touch on the greens suffered from having not played in so long, but it was an encouraging day.

 
My driver is killing me ...i decided to start coming over the top all of a sudden
I have been playing consistent average golf for the past 5 years. Nothing great, but always straight and no worries. I can usually play an entire round with a ball or two. Been hitting around 85 to 90.

3 weeks ago, my buddy says he noticed I hold my club weird and asked if I did it on purpose. So I changed my grip because all of a sudden, it did feel weird. Now I can't hit the ball straight anymore. Plus, I can't figure out how I used to swing. Nothing feels comfortable anymore. I'm going insane. Played yesterday and shot a 102. And that's probably being generous. Miserable.

We don't play for money or anything so I know he didn't do it on purpose, but damn he got in my head. Guess it's payback for all of the times I'd play my older brother for money and when we'd get on the first tee, he'd take his practice swing and I'd say something like, "Yikes. Is that the swing you're using today? Why are you trying something new?" 100% in his kitchen.

 
First round with new clubs - 74

I'm happy :)
Is 2 over par close to your handicap? I play in a league that has 4 teaching pros from local courses. They usually are in the 72-76 range for 18. So 74 is a great score.

 
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My driver is killing me ...i decided to start coming over the top all of a sudden
I have been playing consistent average golf for the past 5 years. Nothing great, but always straight and no worries. I can usually play an entire round with a ball or two. Been hitting around 85 to 90.

3 weeks ago, my buddy says he noticed I hold my club weird and asked if I did it on purpose. So I changed my grip because all of a sudden, it did feel weird. Now I can't hit the ball straight anymore. Plus, I can't figure out how I used to swing. Nothing feels comfortable anymore. I'm going insane. Played yesterday and shot a 102. And that's probably being generous. Miserable.

We don't play for money or anything so I know he didn't do it on purpose, but damn he got in my head. Guess it's payback for all of the times I'd play my older brother for money and when we'd get on the first tee, he'd take his practice swing and I'd say something like, "Yikes. Is that the swing you're using today? Why are you trying something new?" 100% in his kitchen.
The worst part is I'll go to the range to practice or warm up just before the round and I stripe them.

Stupid golf :lol:

 
Awful round for me too.

Shot the best round of my life last Thursday at Atlantic City Country Club.

This past Saturday I shot maybe the worst round of my life on an easier course. So frustrating. Called up the guy who gives me lessons and told him I need a pack of 10 stat.

I started to turn my scores around until about the 11th hole when a group of 3 college kids played through the group behind us and were playing at a lightning pace. My group was NOT playing slow, no looking for lost balls, little time spent talking, we were moving as fast as the party in front would let us. Problem was, there was no where to let them go (log jam in front of us, and they also didn't ask us to play through). Of course they decided to act like drunk #####, screeching the brakes on their cart coming up to every tee box behind us. Literally talking #### and laughing at every shot someone in my party took.

Really got on my nerves and the day blew up from there.

What's with trying to play speed golf on a Saturday at 10 AM with a threesome? You want to play fast, tee off at 6 PM or on a weekday. To act like ##### because there was nowhere to play through to on a Saturday mid day at one of the only public golf courses in the area is a move worthy of an ### beating. Luckily I restrained myself enough not to get arrested.

 
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Awful round for me too.

Shot the best round of my life last Thursday at Atlantic City Country Club.

This past Saturday I shot maybe the worst round of my life on an easier course. So frustrating. Called up the guy who gives me lessons and told him I need a pack of 10 stat.

I started to turn my scores around until about the 11th hole when a group of 3 college kids played through the group behind us and were playing at a lightning pace. My group was NOT playing slow, no looking for lost balls, little time spent talking, we were moving as fast as the party in front would let us. Problem was, there was no where to let them go (log jam in front of us, and they also didn't ask us to play through). Of course they decided to act like drunk #####, screeching the brakes on their cart coming up to every tee box behind us. Literally talking #### and laughing at every shot someone in my party took.

Really got on my nerves and the day blew up from there.

What's with trying to play speed golf on a Saturday at 10 AM with a threesome? You want to play fast, tee off at 6 PM or on a weekday. To act like ##### because there was nowhere to play through to on a Saturday mid day at one of the only public golf courses in the area is a move worthy of an ### beating. Luckily I restrained myself enough not to get arrested.
Yeah that's just stupid. If you're playing on a Saturday or Sunday morning during the golf season, expect the course to play 4-5 hours. If you want to play quickly, book the first tee time or play twilight.

Slow play sucks, but the guys that get all uppity about it on the weekends (especially if it's a public course running 5-7 minute intervals) are far more annoying.

 
First round with new clubs - 74

I'm happy :)
Is 2 over par close to your handicap? I play in a league that has 4 teaching pros from local courses. They usually are in the 72-76 range for 18. So 74 is a great score. When I play a course 6600 yards or more I am hoping to stay in the 42-44 range.
I'm a 0.8 right now, but the course rating where I play is 73.9/139
Damn that's impressive.

 
I finally played a significant amount of golf in the last month or so and saw my index drop ~5 strokes. I played ~20 rounds which is more than I've played in the last 2-3 years. I am close to being out of the teens and hopefully on the way to a single digit.

 
First round with new clubs - 74

I'm happy :)
Is 2 over par close to your handicap? I play in a league that has 4 teaching pros from local courses. They usually are in the 72-76 range for 18. So 74 is a great score. When I play a course 6600 yards or more I am hoping to stay in the 42-44 range.
I'm a 0.8 right now, but the course rating where I play is 73.9/139
:thumbup:

I think Mason (proninja) is in your league although he doesn't play much. I recall a thread where he said he shot in the 70s after not having played for several years.

 
First round with new clubs - 74

I'm happy :)
Is 2 over par close to your handicap? I play in a league that has 4 teaching pros from local courses. They usually are in the 72-76 range for 18. So 74 is a great score. When I play a course 6600 yards or more I am hoping to stay in the 42-44 range.
I'm a 0.8 right now, but the course rating where I play is 73.9/139
Damn that's impressive.
I sucked ### in a 2 man scramble this weekend. My partner who's a 6 carried us. Apparently new clubs still can't save poor swings
 
PRE-Lessons: my driver was my best club. Straight at 230-250 most of the time. Not long, but right down the middle with no problems.

Teed the ball forward in my stance, got through the ball evenly. Head down, all that jazz.

POST-Lessons: My grip was strengthened (not gripping harder but turning the back of my left hand more towards my stomach). Taught to keep my front shoulder cocked up a touch. Keep my hands at my zipper (they were previously at my left leg with the club face behind my hands), Distribute more weight to the back and tilt head slightly to the right looking at the ball.

Every drive went left yesterday using this method.

Where's my fix here? Am I turning through the ball too quickly? This has to be a hands/hips type of thing, no?

I tried damn near everything including teeing the ball up in the middle of my stance. Still went left pretty drastically.

If someone has a quick piece of advice to try out on the range this afternoon, I'd love to hear it.

I will say - here's where the lessons did help my driver. No more topping the ball, chunking the ball, mis-hitting altogether. Every contact was solid. Just solid out to the left.

 
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PRE-Lessons: my driver was my best club. Straight at 230-250 most of the time. Not long, but right down the middle with no problems.

Teed the ball forward in my stance, got through the ball evenly. Head down, all that jazz.

POST-Lessons: My grip was strengthened (not gripping harder but turning the back of my left hand more towards my stomach). Taught to keep my front shoulder cocked up a touch. Keep my hands at my zipper (they were previously at my left leg with the club face behind my hands), Distribute more weight to the back and tilt head slightly to the right looking at the ball.

Every drive went left yesterday using this method.

Where's my fix here? Am I turning through the ball too quickly? This has to be a hands/hips type of thing, no?

I tried damn near everything including teeing the ball up in the middle of my stance. Still went left pretty drastically.

If someone has a quick piece of advice to try out on the range this afternoon, I'd love to hear it.

I will say - here's where the lessons did help my driver. No more topping the ball, chunking the ball, mis-hitting altogether. Every contact was solid. Just solid out to the left.
Watch this vid on grip and go from there.

 
Awful round for me too.

Shot the best round of my life last Thursday at Atlantic City Country Club.

This past Saturday I shot maybe the worst round of my life on an easier course. So frustrating. Called up the guy who gives me lessons and told him I need a pack of 10 stat.

I started to turn my scores around until about the 11th hole when a group of 3 college kids played through the group behind us and were playing at a lightning pace. My group was NOT playing slow, no looking for lost balls, little time spent talking, we were moving as fast as the party in front would let us. Problem was, there was no where to let them go (log jam in front of us, and they also didn't ask us to play through). Of course they decided to act like drunk #####, screeching the brakes on their cart coming up to every tee box behind us. Literally talking #### and laughing at every shot someone in my party took.

Really got on my nerves and the day blew up from there.

What's with trying to play speed golf on a Saturday at 10 AM with a threesome? You want to play fast, tee off at 6 PM or on a weekday. To act like ##### because there was nowhere to play through to on a Saturday mid day at one of the only public golf courses in the area is a move worthy of an ### beating. Luckily I restrained myself enough not to get arrested.
Agreed. If you play on the weekend after 8 or 9, you better expect to play at a slow pace and possibly put up a 5 hour round. It's the peak time to play. I hate playing late on a weekend. You usually have to wait 5 to 10 minutes after each shot, meanwhile it never fails that the group behind me hits into us trying to get us to pick up the pace.

My foursome plays Sundays around 7 am. Yesterday we went out at 6:20 am. It was magical. Done in about 3 and a half hours and still had the whole day to sit on the couch and do nothing. :thumbup:

 
Awful round for me too.

Shot the best round of my life last Thursday at Atlantic City Country Club.

This past Saturday I shot maybe the worst round of my life on an easier course. So frustrating. Called up the guy who gives me lessons and told him I need a pack of 10 stat.

I started to turn my scores around until about the 11th hole when a group of 3 college kids played through the group behind us and were playing at a lightning pace. My group was NOT playing slow, no looking for lost balls, little time spent talking, we were moving as fast as the party in front would let us. Problem was, there was no where to let them go (log jam in front of us, and they also didn't ask us to play through). Of course they decided to act like drunk #####, screeching the brakes on their cart coming up to every tee box behind us. Literally talking #### and laughing at every shot someone in my party took.

Really got on my nerves and the day blew up from there.

What's with trying to play speed golf on a Saturday at 10 AM with a threesome? You want to play fast, tee off at 6 PM or on a weekday. To act like ##### because there was nowhere to play through to on a Saturday mid day at one of the only public golf courses in the area is a move worthy of an ### beating. Luckily I restrained myself enough not to get arrested.
Agreed. If you play on the weekend after 8 or 9, you better expect to play at a slow pace and possibly put up a 5 hour round. It's the peak time to play. I hate playing late on a weekend. You usually have to wait 5 to 10 minutes after each shot, meanwhile it never fails that the group behind me hits into us trying to get us to pick up the pace.

My foursome plays Sundays around 7 am. Yesterday we went out at 6:20 am. It was magical. Done in about 3 and a half hours and still had the whole day to sit on the couch and do nothing. :thumbup:
That's how I'd like to roll. Tee off before 7 am would be ideal. Unfortunately, the guys I play with aren't early birds.

 
Awful round for me too.

Shot the best round of my life last Thursday at Atlantic City Country Club.

This past Saturday I shot maybe the worst round of my life on an easier course. So frustrating. Called up the guy who gives me lessons and told him I need a pack of 10 stat.

I started to turn my scores around until about the 11th hole when a group of 3 college kids played through the group behind us and were playing at a lightning pace. My group was NOT playing slow, no looking for lost balls, little time spent talking, we were moving as fast as the party in front would let us. Problem was, there was no where to let them go (log jam in front of us, and they also didn't ask us to play through). Of course they decided to act like drunk #####, screeching the brakes on their cart coming up to every tee box behind us. Literally talking #### and laughing at every shot someone in my party took.

Really got on my nerves and the day blew up from there.

What's with trying to play speed golf on a Saturday at 10 AM with a threesome? You want to play fast, tee off at 6 PM or on a weekday. To act like ##### because there was nowhere to play through to on a Saturday mid day at one of the only public golf courses in the area is a move worthy of an ### beating. Luckily I restrained myself enough not to get arrested.
Agreed. If you play on the weekend after 8 or 9, you better expect to play at a slow pace and possibly put up a 5 hour round. It's the peak time to play. I hate playing late on a weekend. You usually have to wait 5 to 10 minutes after each shot, meanwhile it never fails that the group behind me hits into us trying to get us to pick up the pace.

My foursome plays Sundays around 7 am. Yesterday we went out at 6:20 am. It was magical. Done in about 3 and a half hours and still had the whole day to sit on the couch and do nothing. :thumbup:
That's how I'd like to roll. Tee off before 7 am would be ideal. Unfortunately, the guys I play with aren't early birds.
To be fair, we aren't really early birds either. For the first 5 holes we all ##### about how early it is and how cold it is. All in good fun, of course. But I think we all agree that it's worth getting up at the crack of dawn to be done by 11 am.

 
Any good drills or tips for golf swing that is coming over the top of the ball?

Lately I have noticed that my divots are not parallel to my body, they are at an angle ending closer to my lead foot. I assume this means I'm coming over the top of the ball and need to swing more inside out instead of outside in? Any thoughts? TIA.
i actually like this with my irons. I want to cut the ball (left to right) so a divot with a path outside in isn't the worst thing. the trick is if you can maintain the clubface. if you're coming outside in you need to have an open clubface to hit the shot true to the target.

expirement: over exaggerate an inside out swing where you take your 7 iron and swing towards right field (1PM on a clock dial, assuming 12 o'clock is target). Note where the ball goes. If the ball starts right and fades, you have an open club face at impact. Next try to swing to 12 o'clock. note where the ball goes (path); if it fades you have an open club face at impact. if it draws you have a closed clubface at impact. If its straight, copy that swing and make it your swing forever. just kidding. Next try to swing outside in where you are having a divot right to left. note where the ball goes. If it still fades, you have an outsisde swing with an open clubhead at impact. if its straight you are square, if it draws, you have the dreaded pull hook.

the two shots you want to master are the inside out swing with a draw and the outside in swing with a fade. both those shots lead back to the target. You want to ignore/eliminate the others. In ordre to hit the draw, you have to close the clubface and swing inside-out, in order to hit the cut you have to open the clubface and swing outside in.

anyhow, make a note of all these swings. Generally speaking the easiest to replicate is either the inside out with the draw or the outside in with the cut. Pick one, and practice that shot. but don't forget the opposite shot, because if you want to work the ball both ways you need to be able to summon the shot as required. As you get better in golf you'll want to be able to hit a draw or a fade on demand. this little exercise will help
If his divot is going left he's coming over the top, regardless of where the ball starts. As you know Scratch - divot is path. That coupled with ball flight will tell you open/closed face.Towel under right arm and focus on swinging out to 1 o'clock should fix this. I also find that if my transition gets quick at the top I tend to open up early and flight left. So it simply be a timing thing if the OP doesn't normally have divots go left.

 
I play 7 am every sunday. If you can't keep the pace that early you shouldn't be out there.

those guys are assess...if they got nowhere to play through why be #####

 

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