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**Official 2014 MLB Regular Season-All over but the shouting (1 Viewer)

Peavy's little routine where he screams at himself on the mound is so tired. It hasn't dawned on him that he simply sucks.

 
Is Pujols underrated? For a guy who is 2 homers shy of 500, there doesn't seem to be much talk about it...

Feel like he's kinda of the forgotten man now in LA

 
Is Pujols underrated? For a guy who is 2 homers shy of 500, there doesn't seem to be much talk about it...

Feel like he's kinda of the forgotten man now in LA
The 500 HR club took a PR hit during by the steroids issue. But there hasn't been a new member for five years (Sheffield Apr 2009) and there may not be another until Miguel Cabrera in the 2016-17 timeframe. David Ortiz is currently 66 short and at age 38, Bill James' favorite toy calculator gives him exactly a 50% chance of reaching 500.

 
Is Pujols underrated? For a guy who is 2 homers shy of 500, there doesn't seem to be much talk about it...

Feel like he's kinda of the forgotten man now in LA
The 500 HR club took a PR hit during by the steroids issue. But there hasn't been a new member for five years (Sheffield Apr 2009) and there may not be another until Miguel Cabrera in the 2016-17 timeframe. David Ortiz is currently 66 short and at age 38, Bill James' favorite toy calculator gives him exactly a 50% chance of reaching 500.
Oh I agree that 500 HRs doesn't quite mean what it used to it. But like you said, this could be the last guy to do it for a few years. You figure if Ortiz does get there, he's got about 2 season before he gets there. Cabrera will more than likely get there in the next 3-4 years.

I just don't remember this little of press for someone getting close to 500. Seems like when Manny got there a few years ago ESPN was counting down every day.

 
Is Pujols underrated? For a guy who is 2 homers shy of 500, there doesn't seem to be much talk about it...

Feel like he's kinda of the forgotten man now in LA
The 500 HR club took a PR hit during by the steroids issue. But there hasn't been a new member for five years (Sheffield Apr 2009) and there may not be another until Miguel Cabrera in the 2016-17 timeframe. David Ortiz is currently 66 short and at age 38, Bill James' favorite toy calculator gives him exactly a 50% chance of reaching 500.
Oh I agree that 500 HRs doesn't quite mean what it used to it. But like you said, this could be the last guy to do it for a few years. You figure if Ortiz does get there, he's got about 2 season before he gets there. Cabrera will more than likely get there in the next 3-4 years.

I just don't remember this little of press for someone getting close to 500. Seems like when Manny got there a few years ago ESPN was counting down every day.
I guess we may find out in 2-3 years whether this is just Pujols being overlooked or if the 500 HR mark has been permanently devalued. Big Papi is not the hitter Pujols has been but is a much bigger media darling. Ortiz also brings in the will he/won't he factor that would make this a more compelling story. Pujols' (and Cabrera's) pursuit of 500 has an inevitability about it.

 
Is Pujols underrated? For a guy who is 2 homers shy of 500, there doesn't seem to be much talk about it...

Feel like he's kinda of the forgotten man now in LA
The 500 HR club took a PR hit during by the steroids issue. But there hasn't been a new member for five years (Sheffield Apr 2009) and there may not be another until Miguel Cabrera in the 2016-17 timeframe. David Ortiz is currently 66 short and at age 38, Bill James' favorite toy calculator gives him exactly a 50% chance of reaching 500.
Oh I agree that 500 HRs doesn't quite mean what it used to it. But like you said, this could be the last guy to do it for a few years. You figure if Ortiz does get there, he's got about 2 season before he gets there. Cabrera will more than likely get there in the next 3-4 years.

I just don't remember this little of press for someone getting close to 500. Seems like when Manny got there a few years ago ESPN was counting down every day.
I guess we may find out in 2-3 years whether this is just Pujols being overlooked or if the 500 HR mark has been permanently devalued. Big Papi is not the hitter Pujols has been but is a much bigger media darling. Ortiz also brings in the will he/won't he factor that would make this a more compelling story. Pujols' (and Cabrera's) pursuit of 500 has an inevitability about it.
Maybe you're right. Could be because it's just always seemed like Pujols would get to 500 that it just isn't a big deal?

 
:lol: good god

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Is Pujols underrated? For a guy who is 2 homers shy of 500, there doesn't seem to be much talk about it...

Feel like he's kinda of the forgotten man now in LA
The 500 HR club took a PR hit during by the steroids issue. But there hasn't been a new member for five years (Sheffield Apr 2009) and there may not be another until Miguel Cabrera in the 2016-17 timeframe. David Ortiz is currently 66 short and at age 38, Bill James' favorite toy calculator gives him exactly a 50% chance of reaching 500.
Oh I agree that 500 HRs doesn't quite mean what it used to it. But like you said, this could be the last guy to do it for a few years. You figure if Ortiz does get there, he's got about 2 season before he gets there. Cabrera will more than likely get there in the next 3-4 years.

I just don't remember this little of press for someone getting close to 500. Seems like when Manny got there a few years ago ESPN was counting down every day.
I guess we may find out in 2-3 years whether this is just Pujols being overlooked or if the 500 HR mark has been permanently devalued. Big Papi is not the hitter Pujols has been but is a much bigger media darling. Ortiz also brings in the will he/won't he factor that would make this a more compelling story. Pujols' (and Cabrera's) pursuit of 500 has an inevitability about it.
Maybe you're right. Could be because it's just always seemed like Pujols would get to 500 that it just isn't a big deal?
Also, I think with Pujols there's a bit of "762 or Bust" mentality from fans.

When he was young, and guys were going around slamming 45 HRs as 42 year olds, the sky seemed like the limit for Pujols. Now, there's no shot of him saving the world with 763.

Now, every Pujols milestone is partly just a reminder of a reality that many fans hate.

 
Since 2009, Clay Buchholz is 7-1 against the Baltimore Orioles with a 3.20 ERA and 1.31 WHIP. Those ratios do not mesh well with the win-loss record, nor does it portend well that Baltimore is 15-7 in Fenway Park over the past 22 games between the two teams. Buchholz is throwing a lot of strikes this season, but his strikeout rate is down early, as is his average fastball velocity. He is throwing fewer fastballs and using more cutters these days, and he'll be facing a team that has the fifth-best team batting average against cutters. Normally I would recommend using Buchholz, but I don't like this matchup.
http://espn.go.com/fantasy/baseball/flb/dailynotes?page=mlbnotes140421

 
Is Pujols underrated? For a guy who is 2 homers shy of 500, there doesn't seem to be much talk about it...

Feel like he's kinda of the forgotten man now in LA
The 500 HR club took a PR hit during by the steroids issue. But there hasn't been a new member for five years (Sheffield Apr 2009) and there may not be another until Miguel Cabrera in the 2016-17 timeframe. David Ortiz is currently 66 short and at age 38, Bill James' favorite toy calculator gives him exactly a 50% chance of reaching 500.
Oh I agree that 500 HRs doesn't quite mean what it used to it. But like you said, this could be the last guy to do it for a few years. You figure if Ortiz does get there, he's got about 2 season before he gets there. Cabrera will more than likely get there in the next 3-4 years.

I just don't remember this little of press for someone getting close to 500. Seems like when Manny got there a few years ago ESPN was counting down every day.
I guess we may find out in 2-3 years whether this is just Pujols being overlooked or if the 500 HR mark has been permanently devalued. Big Papi is not the hitter Pujols has been but is a much bigger media darling. Ortiz also brings in the will he/won't he factor that would make this a more compelling story. Pujols' (and Cabrera's) pursuit of 500 has an inevitability about it.
Maybe you're right. Could be because it's just always seemed like Pujols would get to 500 that it just isn't a big deal?
Also, I think with Pujols there's a bit of "762 or Bust" mentality from fans.

When he was young, and guys were going around slamming 45 HRs as 42 year olds, the sky seemed like the limit for Pujols. Now, there's no shot of him saving the world with 763.

Now, every Pujols milestone is partly just a reminder of a reality that many fans hate.
He could still finish among the top 5 HR hitters of all-time. Right now, he's averaging 37 a season. Now obviously he won't keep that up his whole career, but at 34 y/o, he'll more than likely end this season around 520 homers. So if over the next 6 season he can average around 20-25 for the next 6 seasons, that would put him in ARod/Mays territory.

 
Bill James' favorite toy gave Pujols a 48% chance of reaching 650 HRs after his first season in Anaheim. His poor 2013 season reduced those chances to just 20%. Even if he bounces back with another 30 HR season this year, his chances only increase back to 31%.

He's been a great all-around hitter; far better than some of the one dimensional sluggers who recently reached the 500-600 career HR mark. Pujols' B-R comps at age 33 include some of the all-time greats (Mantle, Foxx, Mays, Aaron) which is pretty good company.

 
Is Pujols underrated? For a guy who is 2 homers shy of 500, there doesn't seem to be much talk about it...

Feel like he's kinda of the forgotten man now in LA
The 500 HR club took a PR hit during by the steroids issue. But there hasn't been a new member for five years (Sheffield Apr 2009) and there may not be another until Miguel Cabrera in the 2016-17 timeframe. David Ortiz is currently 66 short and at age 38, Bill James' favorite toy calculator gives him exactly a 50% chance of reaching 500.
Oh I agree that 500 HRs doesn't quite mean what it used to it. But like you said, this could be the last guy to do it for a few years. You figure if Ortiz does get there, he's got about 2 season before he gets there. Cabrera will more than likely get there in the next 3-4 years.

I just don't remember this little of press for someone getting close to 500. Seems like when Manny got there a few years ago ESPN was counting down every day.
I guess we may find out in 2-3 years whether this is just Pujols being overlooked or if the 500 HR mark has been permanently devalued. Big Papi is not the hitter Pujols has been but is a much bigger media darling. Ortiz also brings in the will he/won't he factor that would make this a more compelling story. Pujols' (and Cabrera's) pursuit of 500 has an inevitability about it.
Maybe you're right. Could be because it's just always seemed like Pujols would get to 500 that it just isn't a big deal?
Also, I think with Pujols there's a bit of "762 or Bust" mentality from fans.

When he was young, and guys were going around slamming 45 HRs as 42 year olds, the sky seemed like the limit for Pujols. Now, there's no shot of him saving the world with 763.

Now, every Pujols milestone is partly just a reminder of a reality that many fans hate.
He could still finish among the top 5 HR hitters of all-time. Right now, he's averaging 37 a season. Now obviously he won't keep that up his whole career, but at 34 y/o, he'll more than likely end this season around 520 homers. So if over the next 6 season he can average around 20-25 for the next 6 seasons, that would put him in ARod/Mays territory.
That would be incredible and Pujols is amazing.

Just offering up thoughts on why his HR milestones might not be met with the fanfare they deserve.

 
What exactly was Gerit Cole's problem? Did the brewers dust him at the plate after that crap?

Enough of these guys with 25 starts annointing themselves sheriffs of baseball....looking at you Dallas Braden. From Get off my mound to out of the league.

 
Is Pujols underrated? For a guy who is 2 homers shy of 500, there doesn't seem to be much talk about it...

Feel like he's kinda of the forgotten man now in LA
The 500 HR club took a PR hit during by the steroids issue. But there hasn't been a new member for five years (Sheffield Apr 2009) and there may not be another until Miguel Cabrera in the 2016-17 timeframe. David Ortiz is currently 66 short and at age 38, Bill James' favorite toy calculator gives him exactly a 50% chance of reaching 500.
Oh I agree that 500 HRs doesn't quite mean what it used to it. But like you said, this could be the last guy to do it for a few years. You figure if Ortiz does get there, he's got about 2 season before he gets there. Cabrera will more than likely get there in the next 3-4 years.

I just don't remember this little of press for someone getting close to 500. Seems like when Manny got there a few years ago ESPN was counting down every day.
I guess we may find out in 2-3 years whether this is just Pujols being overlooked or if the 500 HR mark has been permanently devalued. Big Papi is not the hitter Pujols has been but is a much bigger media darling. Ortiz also brings in the will he/won't he factor that would make this a more compelling story. Pujols' (and Cabrera's) pursuit of 500 has an inevitability about it.
Maybe you're right. Could be because it's just always seemed like Pujols would get to 500 that it just isn't a big deal?
Also, I think with Pujols there's a bit of "762 or Bust" mentality from fans.

When he was young, and guys were going around slamming 45 HRs as 42 year olds, the sky seemed like the limit for Pujols. Now, there's no shot of him saving the world with 763.

Now, every Pujols milestone is partly just a reminder of a reality that many fans hate.
He could still finish among the top 5 HR hitters of all-time. Right now, he's averaging 37 a season. Now obviously he won't keep that up his whole career, but at 34 y/o, he'll more than likely end this season around 520 homers. So if over the next 6 season he can average around 20-25 for the next 6 seasons, that would put him in ARod/Mays territory.
That would be incredible and Pujols is amazing.

Just offering up thoughts on why his HR milestones might not be met with the fanfare they deserve.
Because he's the second team in town playing on the west coast. He's just not in the forefront of media cycles or most fans to get the kind of attention he's perhaps worthy of.

I'd also submit he's limping there, a decent start aside, rather than surging there, he's seen a mercenary(would be much more ballyhooed in St. Louis) and I think you can't help but have lingering PED thoughts about him.

 
What exactly was Gerit Cole's problem? Did the brewers dust him at the plate after that crap?

Enough of these guys with 25 starts annointing themselves sheriffs of baseball....looking at you Dallas Braden. From Get off my mound to out of the league.
:goodposting: but to be fair, Carlos Gomez is a chode.

 
What exactly was Gerit Cole's problem? Did the brewers dust him at the plate after that crap?

Enough of these guys with 25 starts annointing themselves sheriffs of baseball....looking at you Dallas Braden. From Get off my mound to out of the league.
:goodposting: but to be fair, Carlos Gomez is a chode.
I assume he must be. Its funny that we are closing in on our 3rd decade of guys cadillac'ing homers and now its a problem with teams if Gomez does it? Its strange to me.

 
What exactly was Gerit Cole's problem? Did the brewers dust him at the plate after that crap?

Enough of these guys with 25 starts annointing themselves sheriffs of baseball....looking at you Dallas Braden. From Get off my mound to out of the league.
:goodposting: but to be fair, Carlos Gomez is a chode.
No doubt, but seems like he got a bad rap on this one. MLB network announcers this morning said he was swinging his helmet at people and how using it as a weapon was sure to get him suspended. Then I saw the video. He didnt swing his helmet at anyone. Cole seemed like the instigator here.

 
Cole shouldn't have said a word, just plant 95 mph fast ball on his earflap next time. Gomez is an absolute doosh and I wouldn't be bothered about seeing this ahole get seriously dropped by a pitch.

 
Cole shouldn't have said a word, just plant 95 mph fast ball on his earflap next time. Gomez is an absolute doosh and I wouldn't be bothered about seeing this ahole get seriously dropped by a pitch.
What did he do wrong HERE though? How does Cole not get ejected for starting this thing?

 
Cole shouldn't have said a word, just plant 95 mph fast ball on his earflap next time. Gomez is an absolute doosh and I wouldn't be bothered about seeing this ahole get seriously dropped by a pitch.
What did he do wrong HERE though? How does Cole not get ejected for starting this thing?
He admired his hit like a HR and then it turned out it didn't even go out of the park. Cole (so he claims) said something about maybe he should wait and save his struts for actual homeruns, although I'm sure there were some other choice words. Then Gomez flipped out as Cole was walking back to the mound because he said some mean words to him.
 
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Cole shouldn't have said a word, just plant 95 mph fast ball on his earflap next time. Gomez is an absolute doosh and I wouldn't be bothered about seeing this ahole get seriously dropped by a pitch.
What did he do wrong HERE though? How does Cole not get ejected for starting this thing?
He admired his hit like a HR and then it turned out it didn't even go out of the park. Cole (so he claims) said something about maybe he should wait and save his struts for actual homeruns, although I'm sure there were some other choice words. Then Gomez flipped out as Cole was walking back to the mound because he said some mean words to him.
I saw that, the home run admiring scenario, but if Cole is going to start policing that, I expect some consistency going forward.

To me, and I have no dog in this fight, in fact, I had Cole starting for me in a game I needed a win in, but outside of that, it looks very clear to me like he goes out of his way to go to third base to chastise him. I don't see how you can say "so he claims" when the field mic picks up him saying something. And when Gomez retorts, its when he gets separated while Cole slinks away.

I could very much do without the stylin on these homers and can't stand when a guy on my team does it and it clanks off the wall (even damn Jeter did this a few weeks ago). If you don't KNOW its gone, you'd better bust it, and guess what, if you've ever hit it and it didn't go out, you don't know enough to know.

I guess in the order of crimes in this spot, don't cadillac on a ball that goes off the wall, but don't talk trash to a guy when he just smoked you 399 feet.

 
it looks very clear to me like he goes out of his way to go to third base to chastise him. I don't see how you can say "so he claims" when the field mic picks up him saying something.
He was backing up the throw.

I mean "so he claims" as in so Cole claims, because for all I know he could have actually done something like call Gomez's mom a Mongoloid slutbag instead of the relatively innocuous thing he says he did.

 
it looks very clear to me like he goes out of his way to go to third base to chastise him. I don't see how you can say "so he claims" when the field mic picks up him saying something.
He was backing up the throw.

I mean "so he claims" as in so Cole claims, because for all I know he could have actually done something like call Gomez's mom a Mongoloid slutbag instead of the relatively innocuous thing he says he did.
ah ha ok, gotcha..

 
I don't

Who care what was said, Gomez is the one who starts throwing fists...........he gets what he deserves.
The situation was pretty much diffused until the entire Pirates dugout came on the field and surrounded a restrained Gomez. A Pirate came in and said something that set everything off.

I don't see much wrong with what anybody here did.

Cole wanted to run his mouth, but didn't want to fight..

Gomez backed off.

Somebody else did want to fight (Snider?). Gomez obliged. Seems like everybody got what they wanted.

This a sport where everyone runs around feeling the need to police behavior. Two guys agreeing to a bout of fisticuffs to sort things out makes more sense than throwing baseballs at each other.

Ultimately, the problem is that "clearing of the dugout" is accepted in this sport. The NBA, of course, had to put a stop to that because a dozen black dudes fighting scares the hell out of white people. Fighting is not an issue in the NBA.

One on one fights are easier to contain, and if these baseball players knew an altercation might lead to one on one fight without an army showing up, some of them might keep their mouths shut and just go play.

In this case, if everybody stays in the dugout, there is no fight.

You put a few dozen guys on the field running their mouths, chances are, it'll come to blows.

Not that Gomez isn't responsible for throwing punches. He'll accept it. Cole, on the other hand, got to run that mouth knowing his team would come out and handle repercussions from it for him.

 
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I don't

Who care what was said, Gomez is the one who starts throwing fists...........he gets what he deserves.
The situation was pretty much diffused until the entire Pirates dugout came on the field and surrounded a restrained Gomez. A Pirate came in and said something that set everything off.

I don't see much wrong with what anybody here did.

Cole wanted to run his mouth, but didn't want to fight..

Gomez backed off.

Somebody else did want to fight (Snider?). Gomez obliged. Seems like everybody got what they wanted.

I'd prefer more fights in baseball, really. This a sport where everyone runs around feeling the need to police behavior. Two guys agreeing to a bout of fisticuffs to sort things out makes more sense than throwing baseballs at each other.

Ultimately, the problem is that "clearing of the dugout" is accepted in this sport. The NBA, of course, had to put a stop to that because a dozen black dudes fighting scares the hell out of white people. Fighting is not an issue in the NBA.

One on one fights are easier to contain, and if these baseball players knew an altercation might lead to one on one fight without an army showing up, some of them might keep their mouths shut and just go play.

In this case, if everybody stays in the dugout, there is no fight.

You put a few dozen guys on the field running their mouths, chances are, it'll come to blows.

Not that Gomez isn't responsible for throwing punches. He'll accept it. Cole, on the other hand, got to run that mouth knowing his team would come out and handle repercussions from it for him.
Assuming Cole says nothing if Gomez just runs instead of being a dooshnozzle.

 
I don't

Who care what was said, Gomez is the one who starts throwing fists...........he gets what he deserves.
The situation was pretty much diffused until the entire Pirates dugout came on the field and surrounded a restrained Gomez. A Pirate came in and said something that set everything off.

I don't see much wrong with what anybody here did.

Cole wanted to run his mouth, but didn't want to fight..

Gomez backed off.

Somebody else did want to fight (Snider?). Gomez obliged. Seems like everybody got what they wanted.

I'd prefer more fights in baseball, really. This a sport where everyone runs around feeling the need to police behavior. Two guys agreeing to a bout of fisticuffs to sort things out makes more sense than throwing baseballs at each other.

Ultimately, the problem is that "clearing of the dugout" is accepted in this sport. The NBA, of course, had to put a stop to that because a dozen black dudes fighting scares the hell out of white people. Fighting is not an issue in the NBA.

One on one fights are easier to contain, and if these baseball players knew an altercation might lead to one on one fight without an army showing up, some of them might keep their mouths shut and just go play.

In this case, if everybody stays in the dugout, there is no fight.

You put a few dozen guys on the field running their mouths, chances are, it'll come to blows.

Not that Gomez isn't responsible for throwing punches. He'll accept it. Cole, on the other hand, got to run that mouth knowing his team would come out and handle repercussions from it for him.
Assuming Cole says nothing if Gomez just runs instead of being a dooshnozzle.
That option was available to him.

 
Gomez hustled his way to third base. Cole was too busy watching Gomez to make it over to backup third base in time.

Cole is confused about who the real Cadillac is here.

 
Is every BOS/NYY game going to be nationally televised?

If they aren't on MLB they are on ESPN

I understand they are large markets. But wouldn't it be better for baseball as a whole to show some other talent?

 
Let me gets this right.....

Not only did Kevin Kouzmanoff and Justin Morneau win player of the week awards in 2014, they did it in the same week?

 
Chris sale could be out awhile with a flexor muscle strain. No ligament damage but thats a killer. Especially in weekly leagues where he was scheduled to get two starts this week

 
Wrigley said:
Is every BOS/NYY game going to be nationally televised?

If they aren't on MLB they are on ESPN

I understand they are large markets. But wouldn't it be better for baseball as a whole to show some other talent?
I get tired of watching these squads when they actually have good teams. With their current squads it's torture. Time for some fresh blood, MLB.

 
Wrigley said:
Is every BOS/NYY game going to be nationally televised?

If they aren't on MLB they are on ESPN

I understand they are large markets. But wouldn't it be better for baseball as a whole to show some other talent?
I get tired of watching these squads when they actually have good teams. With their current squads it's torture. Time for some fresh blood, MLB.
In theory I'm with you that they're televised a bit much. But one is in first place and the other is the defending champ, so this post makes no sense.

 
King Felix to throw a perfect game tonight?

YES ☑

NO
It's a funny game, isn't it?
Highly amusing to watch the third baseman drop the ball for an easy tag out, catcher biffs a transfer on a possible K-Throw out DP, then a OF whiffs the catch and hit the wall, and then a second OF slam into the wall though at least he didn't whiff. 4 run 6th is all unearned.

Felix certainly not on tonight but still should be 2-2 going to bottom 6th. Pretty embarrassing ball going on from this team.

 
Wrigley said:
Is every BOS/NYY game going to be nationally televised?

If they aren't on MLB they are on ESPN

I understand they are large markets. But wouldn't it be better for baseball as a whole to show some other talent?
I get tired of watching these squads when they actually have good teams. With their current squads it's torture. Time for some fresh blood, MLB.
In theory I'm with you that they're televised a bit much. But one is in first place and the other is the defending champ, so this post makes no sense.
:shrug:

We'll see how the season goes. These teams are just so boring to watch. Especially this squad of Yankees. I'd rather watch the Astros. At least you get some good comedy watching that squad of scrubs.

 

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