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**Official 2014 MLB Regular Season-All over but the shouting (1 Viewer)
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
I think they're ahead of the curve in terms of quantifying player value. Maybe moreso than they were 10 years ago, even.Bigboy10182000 said:
Having a small payroll is freeing, in some aspect. If something's not going right, they can change it. They're not locked in to the same roster for the next 5-6 years like some of the mega-teams.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
And thank God for you GB. That smiley is a lifesaver IMO.........Doctor Detroit said:I really did get it back. When they switched boards that one was left off and I protested, went straight to the top.colon oldunsure colonBilly Bats said:Passan said Wainwright pitched with a small UCL tear for 5 years before it finally popped, but I doubt that's normal.Doctor Detroit said:Any prior examples of that working? That really doesn't sound like a great idea.Billy Bats said:Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 12mDoctor Detroit said:
Yankees GM Brian Cashman says Masahiro Tanaka has a small tear in his UCL. Will have PRP injection. Yankees hope he's back in six weeks.
edit: more importantly how'd you get the old unsure guy back?
glllllllllllllllll
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Nuno is just a younger, blacker, less twitter savvy McCarthy.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Yup. They're ahead of the curve in a lot of ways. I can't find the article right now for some reason but the latest thing someone ID'ed was that they obtain extreme fly ball pitchers, who generally have a slightly lower BABIP but obviously give up more HRs, and they get quality defensive OF guys, so the end product in their huge park is a significant edge. They're a ridiculous 30-15 at home this year, and their staff has the second-lowest BABIP in the league at .270 after having the second-lowest one on the league last year at .276. Next level stuff.
And that's just one thing someone was able to ID recently. Gotta figure for everything some outsider picks up there's five things that no one else has sorted out yet.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I'm sure they didn't expect them to be this good, but their scouting department obviously liked something about them. They deserve credit for seeing value that others didn't. And in the case of Donaldson their scouting department and system deserve credit for makings the guys traded for Donaldson good enough to garner an elite prospect in a deadline trade.
Eephus
Footballguy
They've somehow made it work but I still think their payroll is a major disadvantage. They're forced to be very selective about who they keep and they have to constantly churn their roster in order to maximize value. They also have little margin for error. A single bad deal like Eric Chavez' can cripple a club for years.
rodg12
Footballguy
The other thing I read recently was that they also have prioritized fly-ball hitting batters as well. Guys like Donaldson, Moss, Reddick, Lowrie, etc.
East Coast Bias
Footballguy
Yankees make a move and pick up Jeff Francis from the A's.
East Coast Bias
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
shadyridr
Footballguy
I really wish they would start trading for prospects and rebuild the right way. Focus everything on 2016 with Tanaka coming back and Betances as your closer. Blow everything else up.
Wrigley
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
Those guys aren't going to bring huge returns and the organization isn't deep with pitchers. They're close enough in both the division and wild card races that blowing things up doesn't make any sense. The Yankees don't have a lot of trade assets but they do have more ability to take on toxic contracts than just about any other club.
the moops
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
so yes?
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Man the braves pulled a joba on wood. Think these geniuses can let a guy pitch?
Eephus
Footballguy
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Nolan Reimold is, you guessed it, injured.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
thought he had a nagging injury?
Corey Dickerson | LF | COL Dickerson (wrist) remains out of the lineup Friday against the Twins.
Spin:
Dickerson will miss a second straight start as a result of the wrist injury, and Carlos Gonzalez's return will afford manager Walt Weiss the option to stay away from him for the rest of the weekend. Once healthy, however, Dickerson will likely return to a near-everyday role in left field, with Gonzalez set for a full-time move to right. Weiss has said that he wants to keep the likes of Drew Stubbs and Brandon Barnes involved, but Dickerson is likely to continue starting against right-handers.
Fri, Jul 11
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Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Yeah, was surprised to see this when looking at ISO leaders at 2B.
Actually had a lot of power in the minors. Not sure what the story has been in the pros. HR/FB rate is insanely high right now, though.
East Coast Bias
Footballguy
A's get to Felix early. One run might be enough for Samardzija.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Yeah I was gonna mention Aybar. How did he make the team before Kinsler did? Or over Kyle Seager at all? Wade Davis?
Not that I care mind you, just seemed like better guys out there especially since Jeter will get to play 17 innings or a 9 inning game.
Not that I care mind you, just seemed like better guys out there especially since Jeter will get to play 17 innings or a 9 inning game.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
FYI Price is scratched from tomorrow's start due to illness, may start Sunday.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Donaldson was a first round pick out of Auburn that mashed early on with the Cubs, then hit a bit of a roadblock in 2008 in A ball, which is when the A's pounced in the Harden deal. The same thing happened (to some extent) with Derek Norris, he's always raked in the minors.
None of those guys are ever sure things, but I would imagine that Oakland's front office is pretty good in finding the guys who have a better chance than average of breaking out.
I remember being so excited when the Cubs got Harden
RnR
Footballguy
So why were you so sure that the A's would be the first ones to admit that they lucked into him? Do you just make stuff up on the fly?
Don Quixote
Footballguy
I don't know if the Norris trade has worked out that well for the A's. He's been solid, but he's also about all they have to show for giving up Gio Gonzalez, who is still under a favorable contract with the Nats, since the others haven't amounted to much.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Yes. He's taken time to learn how to pitch instead of just using the gas he did forever. I bought everywhere this year, and was admittedly frustrated a month or so ago, but he's now doing what I thought he'd be doing all year. Glad I stayed patient with him.
RnR
Footballguy
Of course you did. Never a bad move.
6/14/14 11:55 AM ET
- AddedJoyce, Matt RF | TB - Dropped 6/14/14Here's to hoping this isn't a mirage.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Of course you did. Never a bad move.
6/14/14 11:55 AM ETRnR Lincecum, Tim SP | SF
Here's to hoping this isn't a mirage.
stalker
RnR
Footballguy
We read the same baseball forum with 50 dudes in it. I'm sure that's what it is.Of course you did. Never a bad move.
6/14/14 11:55 AM ETRnR Lincecum, Tim SP | SF
Here's to hoping this isn't a mirage.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Then fix your confirmation bias problems. You're looking for stuff like the above, so you comment anytime it happens, but gloss over when it's not because it doesn't fit the story you've already written in your head.We read the same baseball forum with 50 dudes in it. I'm sure that's what it is.Of course you did. Never a bad move.
6/14/14 11:55 AM ETRnR Lincecum, Tim SP | SF
Here's to hoping this isn't a mirage.
I started a thread detailing my major screw up's last year, no one responded - http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=685900#entry15816965. Unlike most people in the message board world I don't hide from my f up's, I try to learn from them.
Based on what's happened so far this year I am better at some of my weaknesses but not all of them. I made one big mistake in one league keeping an expensive Verlander rather than trusting my numbers and letting him go and a smaller mistake getting a little too greedy with veteran OF's that are not surprisingly unhealthy. For whatever reason it irks you that I am good at finding good cheap pitching. I did again this year. I'm probably overly critical when it comes to arms because I think I can build a staff from a smaller, cheaper pool. Similar story with steals. I de-value them draft day then look for those types during the season to cover injuries/players sucking because those are the types that I usually find on waivers. Apparently it bugs you that I don't make catchers a priority. I think owning Mike Napoli is a headache, that also bothered you. I think the Napoli owner in your league this year probably has a headache. It also bugs you that I use platoons. So what? I choose to pick other players then come back with Corey Dickerson and Drew Stubbs late. Yeah, it's two roster spots for one position, but I got 51 games of 35/14/37/9/.323 (111/45/118/29 over a full season) ball out of them before trading away Dickerson. I think my team is better by doing that. This form of team building riles you up because???...
Anyway, wrapping up this rant. I think you, and a small subset of the others that usually post in here, are morons. It's because you constantly follow me around looking for errors in anything I post because you know that I'll snark back at you. I'm sure there are several others that regularly post on here that have f'd up in posts that I don't respond to because that's not my style. If you're going to be an ### hole though I'll be more than happy to oblige. Personally, I don't think the others really care about it, they don't want to read it. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe they like to see the same 4 or 5 people constantly bicker. If that's what you guys want I can adapt, which I've done. It's why anytime you respond to me I say Mauer. Dr. D will now be Bryan Shaw. You get on your high horse when you think I write something that is laughable then it comes back and bites you. If you're going to remind me about my f up's, or snark like that bs above with Lincecum, then it's going to go back and forth with a bunch of #### that (I think) most here don't want to read.
Don't get on that horse and you won't hear from me.
Your choice.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
so sure? I said i think. This is a message board not a ####in court room. Why do you always have such a bug up your ### about my posts? People are allowed to post their opinions on here despite what you may think message board cop. Why dont you just block me and move on? And even if he was a first rounder they couldve still lucked into him panning out eventually 5 years later.
MAC_32
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
hes just a pathetic human being that likes trolling for no reason. You ever notice he only posts in this forum? ####### pathetic. Im moving on and putting him on ignore. Something i shouldve done a long time ago. People are allowed to be wrong about things on message boards but apparently not him. Hes mr perfect!
