**Official 2014 MLB Regular Season-All over but the shouting (1 Viewer)

[Don Quixote]

Yanks got Marlon Byrd. Yippee

Only person I've seen report that is Jim Bowden. Jim Bowden is terrible.

Yes: https://twitter.com/jessespector/status/494903630005567488

Bizarre things are now happening to Bowden's twitter account (changed handle, profile pic reverted to an egg). This is almost as intriguing as trade rumors.

the account now appears nuked

Back!

https://twitter.com/JimBowdenESPNxm

JIM BOWDEN‏@JimBowdenESPNxm
I messed up. #confirmed

The original account, with the changed handle, is back too: https://twitter.com/JimBowdiv

 

[fred_1_15301]

So who us getting Price? Doyers I would think

Sherman reporting that Price is "definitely" getting traded. Dodgers, O's, Tigers I guess the big three possibles

ETA: Mariners dark horse too

Don't rule out the Pirates

Max Wildstein tweeting Pirates are front runners for Price. Deal could involve Josh Bell and Tyler Glasnow :X

 

[Premier]

That's not Bowden. Somebody grabbed his account when he deleted it.

 

[HellToupee]

http://deadspin.com/jim-bowden-caught-stealing-from-fake-twitter-account-d-1614081824?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

amazing

He's a real bright light. The old egg avatar will fool themI'm surprised he didnt try the old @I was hacked" gimmick

 

[HellToupee]

That's not Bowden. Somebody grabbed his account when he deleted it.

 

[Premier]

I love twitter so much.

Also days like today make me realize that those Nigerian email scams really DO work.

 

[fred_1_15301]

So who us getting Price? Doyers I would think

Sherman reporting that Price is "definitely" getting traded. Dodgers, O's, Tigers I guess the big three possibles

ETA: Mariners dark horse too

Don't rule out the Pirates

Max Wildstein tweeting Pirates are front runners for Price. Deal could involve Josh Bell and Tyler Glasnow :X

No way the Pirates are this dumb

 

[Premier]

How long until that fake real Bowden account fires off a fake David Price trade. 15 minutes?

 

[Northern Voice]

Red Sox moves confuse me.

What is so confusing?

They've gotten no prospects back. They're awful this season and they're picked up a couple guys who have had strong offensive histories but are trending in the wrong direction. Plus, where is Craig even going to play? I guess they think they improve their offense with these moves and throw boatloads of cash at one of Lester/Shields/Scherzer for next season?

I guess I don't see them doing a huge 1 year turnaround, and after 2015, they lose Napoli, Victorino, Cespedes, Ortiz?... I would have expected a more long term focussed deadline. Seems like they've just pushed the inevitable rebuild back a year.

 

[Annyong]

Come on MLB, its been like an hour since the last trade.

 

[Seatown Mofos]

The Mariners get Chris Denorfia unless Jack Z has a change of heart

Wow! Now there's the great offensive improvement we were looking for!

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Red Sox moves confuse me.

What is so confusing?

They've gotten no prospects back. They're awful this season and they're picked up a couple guys who have had strong offensive histories but are trending in the wrong direction. Plus, where is Craig even going to play? I guess they think they improve their offense with these moves and throw boatloads of cash at one of Lester/Shields/Scherzer for next season? I guess I don't see them doing a huge 1 year turnaround, and after 2015, they lose Napoli, Victorino, Cespedes, Ortiz?... I would have expected a more long term focussed deadline. Seems like they've just pushed the inevitable rebuild back a year.

 

[Don Quixote]

Reports of Asdrubal Cabrera to the Nats.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Andrew miller to o's

 

[shadyridr]

I saw Miller to the O's too

 

[TLEF316]

Update: Ralph

 

[the moops]

Red Sox moves confuse me.

What is so confusing?

They've gotten no prospects back. They're awful this season and they're picked up a couple guys who have had strong offensive histories but are trending in the wrong direction. Plus, where is Craig even going to play? I guess they think they improve their offense with these moves and throw boatloads of cash at one of Lester/Shields/Scherzer for next season? I guess I don't see them doing a huge 1 year turnaround, and after 2015, they lose Napoli, Victorino, Cespedes, Ortiz?... I would have expected a more long term focussed deadline. Seems like they've just pushed the inevitable rebuild back a year.

They already have a top 5 farm system in all of baseball. Not sure when you have a 160 million dollar payroll you can go the prospect route in its entirety.



Not sure how Cespedes is trending in the wrong direction, considering he has had a 1/2 year of better baseball than he had last year.

 

[Brady Marino]

Reports of Asdrubal Cabrera to the Nats.

Rosenthal reporting now.

DC just got a nice case of Assdribble.

 

[the moops]

I saw Miller to the O's too

#3 O's pitching prospect Eduardo Rodriguez.

Pre-2014 # 65 prospect

 

[MAC_32]

Red Sox moves confuse me.

What is so confusing?

They've gotten no prospects back. They're awful this season and they're picked up a couple guys who have had strong offensive histories but are trending in the wrong direction. Plus, where is Craig even going to play? I guess they think they improve their offense with these moves and throw boatloads of cash at one of Lester/Shields/Scherzer for next season?

I guess I don't see them doing a huge 1 year turnaround, and after 2015, they lose Napoli, Victorino, Cespedes, Ortiz?... I would have expected a more long term focussed deadline. Seems like they've just pushed the inevitable rebuild back a year.

Isn't their farm system already pretty good?

 

[No. 16]

Good move for the A's. YO is all flash.

After years of getting killed by Detroit, Beane finally realizes you need 3 stud pitchers instead of 5 very good ones in the playoffs.

 

[Copeman]

Ken Rosenthal ‏@robertrivelli 2m
#Tigers acquire David Price from #Rays for Drew Smyly, Derek Hill, Rajai Davis, and Double-A reliever.

 

[No. 16]

Ken Rosenthal ‏@robertrivelli 2m

#Tigers acquire David Price from #Rays for Drew Smyly, Derek Hill, Rajai Davis, and Double-A reliever.

####.

 

[Copeman]

Ken Rosenthal ‏@robertrivelli 2m
#Tigers acquire David Price from #Rays for Drew Smyly, Derek Hill, Rajai Davis, and Double-A reliever.

Well, now he just deleted it. So who knows....

 

[Premier]

Ken Rosenthal ‏@robertrivelli 2m

#Tigers acquire David Price from #Rays for Drew Smyly, Derek Hill, Rajai Davis, and Double-A reliever.

Fake.

I mean come guys. Take 10 seconds.

 

[Premier]

Ken Rosenthal ‏@robertrivelli 2m

#Tigers acquire David Price from #Rays for Drew Smyly, Derek Hill, Rajai Davis, and Double-A reliever.

Well, now he just deleted it. So who knows....

AT ROBERT TRIVELLI

 

[RnR]

Check your @ on that Price report.

 

[MAC_32]

Ken Rosenthal ‏@robertrivelli 2m
#Tigers acquire David Price from #Rays for Drew Smyly, Derek Hill, Rajai Davis, and Double-A reliever.

Seems...low.

Good get, Dom.

Real nervous about not having a reliable situational lefty out of the pen come October though.

edit: nevermind

 

[HellToupee]

I actually sorry for the Rays

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Red Sox moves confuse me.

What is so confusing?

They've gotten no prospects back. They're awful this season and they're picked up a couple guys who have had strong offensive histories but are trending in the wrong direction. Plus, where is Craig even going to play? I guess they think they improve their offense with these moves and throw boatloads of cash at one of Lester/Shields/Scherzer for next season? I guess I don't see them doing a huge 1 year turnaround, and after 2015, they lose Napoli, Victorino, Cespedes, Ortiz?... I would have expected a more long term focussed deadline. Seems like they've just pushed the inevitable rebuild back a year.

They already have a top 5 farm system in all of baseball. Not sure when you have a 160 million dollar payroll you can go the prospect route in its entirety.

Not sure how Cespedes is trending in the wrong direction, considering he has had a 1/2 year of better baseball than he had last year.

Not next year it won't be top 5, Boegarts skewed that rating. Plus it's hitter heavy and they just traded for Cespedes and Craig. I guess they'll buy pitching.

 

[Northern Voice]

Red Sox moves confuse me.

What is so confusing?

They've gotten no prospects back. They're awful this season and they're picked up a couple guys who have had strong offensive histories but are trending in the wrong direction. Plus, where is Craig even going to play? I guess they think they improve their offense with these moves and throw boatloads of cash at one of Lester/Shields/Scherzer for next season?

I guess I don't see them doing a huge 1 year turnaround, and after 2015, they lose Napoli, Victorino, Cespedes, Ortiz?... I would have expected a more long term focussed deadline. Seems like they've just pushed the inevitable rebuild back a year.

Isn't their farm system already pretty good?

If you're counting on the farm, you're not looking at next year are you? Why trade for a guy who's gone after next and a guy you don't have a spot on the field for?

Cespedes is trending up from last year, but not close to 2012

 

[the moops]

Red Sox moves confuse me.

What is so confusing?

They've gotten no prospects back. They're awful this season and they're picked up a couple guys who have had strong offensive histories but are trending in the wrong direction. Plus, where is Craig even going to play? I guess they think they improve their offense with these moves and throw boatloads of cash at one of Lester/Shields/Scherzer for next season? I guess I don't see them doing a huge 1 year turnaround, and after 2015, they lose Napoli, Victorino, Cespedes, Ortiz?... I would have expected a more long term focussed deadline. Seems like they've just pushed the inevitable rebuild back a year.

They already have a top 5 farm system in all of baseball. Not sure when you have a 160 million dollar payroll you can go the prospect route in its entirety.

Not sure how Cespedes is trending in the wrong direction, considering he has had a 1/2 year of better baseball than he had last year.

Not next year it won't be top 5, Boegarts skewed that rating. Plus it's hitter heavy and they just traded for Cespedes and Craig. I guess they'll buy pitching.

Preseason, #2, 4, 8, 9, 10 were all pitchers. And of course they will buy pitching

 

[the moops]

So according to NV, unless you trade for a guy who you control for like 7 years, it is a bad trade.

 

[HellToupee]

Red Sox moves confuse me.

What is so confusing?

They've gotten no prospects back. They're awful this season and they're picked up a couple guys who have had strong offensive histories but are trending in the wrong direction. Plus, where is Craig even going to play? I guess they think they improve their offense with these moves and throw boatloads of cash at one of Lester/Shields/Scherzer for next season? I guess I don't see them doing a huge 1 year turnaround, and after 2015, they lose Napoli, Victorino, Cespedes, Ortiz?... I would have expected a more long term focussed deadline. Seems like they've just pushed the inevitable rebuild back a year.

They already have a top 5 farm system in all of baseball. Not sure when you have a 160 million dollar payroll you can go the prospect route in its entirety.

Not sure how Cespedes is trending in the wrong direction, considering he has had a 1/2 year of better baseball than he had last year.

Not next year it won't be top 5, Boegarts skewed that rating. Plus it's hitter heavy and they just traded for Cespedes and Craig. I guess they'll buy pitching.

No oufielders that are close to the majors hence the tinkering with Betts & Middlebrooks in the minors. Henry Owens better be the real deal .I like the Cespedes deal. Easier to buy pitching than RH power.

 

[Northern Voice]

So according to NV, unless you trade for a guy who you control for like 7 years, it is a bad trade.

Do you think the Red Sox as constructed now are anywhere close to competing next season? They'd need to sign all 3 of Shields/Scherzer/Lester. I just see them doing this same thing at this time next season, why delay the inevitable?

 

[MAC_32]

Red Sox moves confuse me.

What is so confusing?

They've gotten no prospects back. They're awful this season and they're picked up a couple guys who have had strong offensive histories but are trending in the wrong direction. Plus, where is Craig even going to play? I guess they think they improve their offense with these moves and throw boatloads of cash at one of Lester/Shields/Scherzer for next season?

I guess I don't see them doing a huge 1 year turnaround, and after 2015, they lose Napoli, Victorino, Cespedes, Ortiz?... I would have expected a more long term focussed deadline. Seems like they've just pushed the inevitable rebuild back a year.

Isn't their farm system already pretty good?

If you're counting on the farm, you're not looking at next year are you? Why trade for a guy who's gone after next and a guy you don't have a spot on the field for?

Cespedes is trending up from last year, but not close to 2012

Seems they're making moves to put themselves in a position to compete in 2015 while their farm guys develop and if it goes bust they blow it all up and start fresh in 2016.

Not getting how they don't have spots for all these guys either. Plan A right now seems to be Craig in right, Victorino in center, Cespedes in left, Xander at 3rd/short, Pedroia at 2nd, Napoli at 1st, Papi at DH, and an unknown (Betts?) at the other left infield spot.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Red Sox moves confuse me.

What is so confusing?

They've gotten no prospects back. They're awful this season and they're picked up a couple guys who have had strong offensive histories but are trending in the wrong direction. Plus, where is Craig even going to play? I guess they think they improve their offense with these moves and throw boatloads of cash at one of Lester/Shields/Scherzer for next season? I guess I don't see them doing a huge 1 year turnaround, and after 2015, they lose Napoli, Victorino, Cespedes, Ortiz?... I would have expected a more long term focussed deadline. Seems like they've just pushed the inevitable rebuild back a year.

They already have a top 5 farm system in all of baseball. Not sure when you have a 160 million dollar payroll you can go the prospect route in its entirety.

Not sure how Cespedes is trending in the wrong direction, considering he has had a 1/2 year of better baseball than he had last year.

Not next year it won't be top 5, Boegarts skewed that rating. Plus it's hitter heavy and they just traded for Cespedes and Craig. I guess they'll buy pitching.

Preseason, #2, 4, 8, 9, 10 were all pitchers. And of course they will buy pitching

Barnes and Owens only pitchers in top 100, and they are on the back end. There were pitchers rated over Bradley, Swihart and cecchini?

 

[the moops]

So according to NV, unless you trade for a guy who you control for like 7 years, it is a bad trade.

Do you think the Red Sox as constructed now are anywhere close to competing next season? They'd need to sign all 3 of Shields/Scherzer/Lester. I just see them doing this same thing at this time next season, why delay the inevitable?

As constructed now, no they are not. Good thing next season doesnt start for 8 months.

 

[HellToupee]

Red Sox moves confuse me.

What is so confusing?

They've gotten no prospects back. They're awful this season and they're picked up a couple guys who have had strong offensive histories but are trending in the wrong direction. Plus, where is Craig even going to play? I guess they think they improve their offense with these moves and throw boatloads of cash at one of Lester/Shields/Scherzer for next season? I guess I don't see them doing a huge 1 year turnaround, and after 2015, they lose Napoli, Victorino, Cespedes, Ortiz?... I would have expected a more long term focussed deadline. Seems like they've just pushed the inevitable rebuild back a year.

They already have a top 5 farm system in all of baseball. Not sure when you have a 160 million dollar payroll you can go the prospect route in its entirety.

Not sure how Cespedes is trending in the wrong direction, considering he has had a 1/2 year of better baseball than he had last year.

Not next year it won't be top 5, Boegarts skewed that rating. Plus it's hitter heavy and they just traded for Cespedes and Craig. I guess they'll buy pitching.

Preseason, #2, 4, 8, 9, 10 were all pitchers. And of course they will buy pitching

Barnes and Owens only pitchers in top 100, and they are on the back end. There were pitchers rated over Bradley, Swihart and cecchini?

Barnes sucks but Owens isn't a back ender

 

[the moops]

There were pitchers rated over Bradley, Swihart and cecchini?

According to BA, Owens was #2, ahead of Bradley, and Webster was #4 ahead of the other two.

But either way, all the talk about prospects from PIT, or STL, or LAD, all revolved around outfielders anyway. There never was too much talk of high end pitching prospects coming back from anyone.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Red Sox moves confuse me.

What is so confusing?

They've gotten no prospects back. They're awful this season and they're picked up a couple guys who have had strong offensive histories but are trending in the wrong direction. Plus, where is Craig even going to play? I guess they think they improve their offense with these moves and throw boatloads of cash at one of Lester/Shields/Scherzer for next season? I guess I don't see them doing a huge 1 year turnaround, and after 2015, they lose Napoli, Victorino, Cespedes, Ortiz?... I would have expected a more long term focussed deadline. Seems like they've just pushed the inevitable rebuild back a year.

They already have a top 5 farm system in all of baseball. Not sure when you have a 160 million dollar payroll you can go the prospect route in its entirety.

Not sure how Cespedes is trending in the wrong direction, considering he has had a 1/2 year of better baseball than he had last year.

Not next year it won't be top 5, Boegarts skewed that rating. Plus it's hitter heavy and they just traded for Cespedes and Craig. I guess they'll buy pitching.

Preseason, #2, 4, 8, 9, 10 were all pitchers. And of course they will buy pitching

Barnes and Owens only pitchers in top 100, and they are on the back end. There were pitchers rated over Bradley, Swihart and cecchini?

Barnes sucks but Owens isn't a back ender

Back end of the top 100, doubt Barnes will make that list next year.

 

[Northern Voice]

Red Sox moves confuse me.

What is so confusing?

They've gotten no prospects back. They're awful this season and they're picked up a couple guys who have had strong offensive histories but are trending in the wrong direction. Plus, where is Craig even going to play? I guess they think they improve their offense with these moves and throw boatloads of cash at one of Lester/Shields/Scherzer for next season?

I guess I don't see them doing a huge 1 year turnaround, and after 2015, they lose Napoli, Victorino, Cespedes, Ortiz?... I would have expected a more long term focussed deadline. Seems like they've just pushed the inevitable rebuild back a year.

Isn't their farm system already pretty good?

If you're counting on the farm, you're not looking at next year are you? Why trade for a guy who's gone after next and a guy you don't have a spot on the field for?

Cespedes is trending up from last year, but not close to 2012

Seems they're making moves to put themselves in a position to compete in 2015 while their farm guys develop and if it goes bust they blow it all up and start fresh in 2016.

Not getting how they don't have spots for all these guys either. Plan A right now seems to be Craig in right, Victorino in center, Cespedes in left, Xander at 3rd/short, Pedroia at 2nd, Napoli at 1st, Papi at DH, and an unknown (Betts?) at the other left infield spot.

I agree that what it seems like they're doing, I just don't like the half in/half out approach. Toronto has gone that way for 15 years and it's lead to a bunch of 80 win seasons and no playoff berths. If they had the players to do it in 2015, go for it. But IMO, they don't AND they lose some key guys, so go for the future. Of the lineup you list there, CF, LF, 1B and DH are all gone after 2015.

 

[shadyridr]

Yanks making a late run on Price

yeah right

 

[Bogart]

Three teams involved in Price trade.

 

[Premier]

@TBTimes_Rays: Hearing #Rays trade involving Price is a three-team deal

@tai_walker: Ughhhhh

 

[rodg12]

Taijuan Walker @tai_walker · 2m

Should have added the "ugh" with the I'm hungry tweet haha whoops

 

[HellToupee]

I hate the Rays but hope they make out ok

 

[Billy Bats]

Three teams involved in Price trade.

Philly radio just said Detroit. Seattle, Tampa, no source cited.

 

[Premier]

I hate the Rays but hope they make out ok

Kind of depressing. Last month has been fun but the team is going to go in the tank now. Guess the team shouldn't have found themselves 17 ####ing games under at one point though.

 

[HellToupee]

Red Sox moves confuse me.

What is so confusing?

They've gotten no prospects back. They're awful this season and they're picked up a couple guys who have had strong offensive histories but are trending in the wrong direction. Plus, where is Craig even going to play? I guess they think they improve their offense with these moves and throw boatloads of cash at one of Lester/Shields/Scherzer for next season? I guess I don't see them doing a huge 1 year turnaround, and after 2015, they lose Napoli, Victorino, Cespedes, Ortiz?... I would have expected a more long term focussed deadline. Seems like they've just pushed the inevitable rebuild back a year.

Isn't their farm system already pretty good?

If you're counting on the farm, you're not looking at next year are you? Why trade for a guy who's gone after next and a guy you don't have a spot on the field for?Cespedes is trending up from last year, but not close to 2012

Seems they're making moves to put themselves in a position to compete in 2015 while their farm guys develop and if it goes bust they blow it all up and start fresh in 2016.Not getting how they don't have spots for all these guys either. Plan A right now seems to be Craig in right, Victorino in center, Cespedes in left, Xander at 3rd/short, Pedroia at 2nd, Napoli at 1st, Papi at DH, and an unknown (Betts?) at the other left infield spot.

I agree that what it seems like they're doing, I just don't like the half in/half out approach. Toronto has gone that way for 15 years and it's lead to a bunch of 80 win seasons and no playoff berths. If they had the players to do it in 2015, go for it. But IMO, they don't AND they lose some key guys, so go for the future. Of the lineup you list there, CF, LF, 1B and DH are all gone after 2015.

I don't think you would ever see a classic rebuild in Boston under this ownership group