Omniscient Deity
Footballguy
Great pick, I'm extremely jealous.
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Official 2015 Cowboys Thread- 4-12. We won the 4th pick! (1 Viewer)
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Bankerguy
Footballguy
Got the position right. I thought a quality corner would be there and was glad it was not Peters.
Randall continued to move up boards and I think they took Jones to play corner and back up Safety. I also believe Yeldon is moving up boards as well.
Great start...looking forward to tomorrow night.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
mikmak8902
Footballguy
I agree. I like Byron Jones as well. Just not in that spot. I thought they could have taken Brown, Landon Collins, or Jalen Collins and still moved up in the 2nd round to grab Jones. Instead, New England ends up with the perfect replacement for Vince Wolfork. How do they get this damn lucky every year???
Bankerguy
Footballguy
mikmak8902
Footballguy
That's a very good point. Brown wasn't the pass rusher the Boys were looking for at the DT position. He's a much better 3-4 NT.
I'm warming up to the Byron Jones pick. I originally thought he was more of a cerebral, hard-working, over-achieving type of corner but his athleticism is waaaaay better than I realized.
- 6'1" 199lbs (making him one of the biggest corners in the draft)
- 10" hands (largest hands of any corner at the combine)
- 44.5" vertical (best vertical out of any corner at the combine by THREE INCHES)
- 12'3" broad jump (broke the combine record)
- 6.78 3-cone (4th best at the combine ... 1/100th of a second slower than Jalen Collins)
- 3.94 Short Shuttle (2nd best at the combine)
- 10.94 60yd shuttle (best at the combine)
- He also had a 4.36 40 at his pro day (didn't run the 40 at the combine)
DreamTheater
Footballguy
Would love to see Gregory, Kendricks or Odighizuwa in the 2nd, but I think we would have to trade up to get either of them.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Agreed trade up would likely be needed. If at 60 I could see:
Mario Edwards DE
Carl Davis DT
Duke Johnson RB
TJ Yeldon RB
Michael Bennett DT
Nate Orchard DE
Dark horse....Donovan Smith OT
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I can't think of one thing Jalen Collins has over Byron Jones, and I'm a Jalen Collins fan.
Measureable? Jones by a wide margin.
Experience? Jones.
Game tape? Jones.
Versatility? Jones, great prospect for dime package FS, something sorely needed.
Character? Jones.
etc...
Fingers crossed but I think this is a can't miss contributor. Collins would have been a fine addition, but Jones is better.
Remember first round CB Mike Jenkins in 08? I liked that pick but was in love with Weddle who they never should have passed on. Well, 4 rounds later they picked up another CB, a high character guy with great measureables, Orlando Scandrick. With Carr likely gone, which is probably depending on Jones' first ota; and Claiborne disappointing and injured, do not be surprised if they tap another CB. There are some "Scandricks" to be had this year.
Measureable? Jones by a wide margin.
Experience? Jones.
Game tape? Jones.
Versatility? Jones, great prospect for dime package FS, something sorely needed.
Character? Jones.
etc...
Fingers crossed but I think this is a can't miss contributor. Collins would have been a fine addition, but Jones is better.
Remember first round CB Mike Jenkins in 08? I liked that pick but was in love with Weddle who they never should have passed on. Well, 4 rounds later they picked up another CB, a high character guy with great measureables, Orlando Scandrick. With Carr likely gone, which is probably depending on Jones' first ota; and Claiborne disappointing and injured, do not be surprised if they tap another CB. There are some "Scandricks" to be had this year.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I like Buck Allen and they did bring him in for a visit. Langford is better in pass protection than any back named above. Sounds good to me.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Btw, the best part about the Skins taking that OLman at 5 is the Giants REALLY wanted him and the skins will find a way to ruin it.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
McFadden has been playing at 220+ for a few years. He was 218 at the combine. He's fast, but he's a thumper by style. Langford was 208 and not a power runner, imo. Just a good versatile reliable ball player. Yeldon, Ajayi, Davis, Allen, Cobb and Williams are the biggish power runners in the draft.I think we are targeting a bigger back to compliment McFadden. Not get another speedster type.
This why I maintain we covet Yeldon and Langford
I'm still pulling for Ryan Williams, btw. He's got game if he's healthy and there's a Miles Austin-ish practice squad buzz about his play. He's struggled in pass pro when healthy so maybe a year of study and practice squad has sorted that out. A full strength RWilliams or DMac is >>>>>>> than the rookies, but both will need supplementing, maybe by each other.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Hah. Scherff is damn good, but he's limited. I'd upgrade that running game though. Not sure what the Giants were thinking. I'd be shocked if they couldn't get him in the 2nd?
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Dallas will take Gregory
DreamTheater
Footballguy
I think Gregory as well...
Want Coleman though...
Want Coleman though...
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
How could you guys not see this coming?
Han Solo
Footballguy
Why not take a chane on this guy...it was a need and he is 1st round talent...hopefully his troubles are behind him...I'm excited with our 1st two picks and with the eagles debacle....Bradford should be out by week 3...of the preseason.
deancheated
Footballguy
man hope this pick blows up the locker room. Lol
cobalt_27
Footballguy
I'm not saying he's as good as Ware, don't get me wrong. But, to have a massive talent like Gregory disrupting the pass is huge. "Situational" in this league is now like 70% of the time. Need a guy like him.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Pretty big risk with Gregory. He's undersized and well... perhaps not a professional.
Madden Curse
Footballguy
Dez can help teach Gregory some maturity.
I'm serious about that, by the way.
I'm serious about that, by the way.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Relax buddy.
I like his talent more in a 3-4. He's gonna have to gain like 30-40 pounds to play 3 downs. That's a lot.
DreamTheater
Footballguy
Hoping that all these off-the-field Gregory reports are blown out of proportion.
Werder saying mental mealth issues kinda scares me a bit...
Werder saying mental mealth issues kinda scares me a bit...
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Yeah, it's a red flag there are multiple incidents with him, not an isolated thing. He might be troubled and wind up like Aldon Smith, Hardy, etc. Strikes me as a pretty bright guy, so I just hope he makes the effort to address whatever demons are there.
I'm ok swinging for the fences with him in round 2 and taking that chance with him.
DreamTheater
Footballguy
DreamTheater
Footballguy
sorry..not happy with this one..Wanted Jay...
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Most had him as a 4th. 91 is practically the 4th.
Don't love the pick...but don't hate it.
DreamTheater
Footballguy
maybe i am the minority here..HATE it..
IMO needed the RB more than the T at this point....Jay doesnt last to the 4th,
IMO needed the RB more than the T at this point....Jay doesnt last to the 4th,
I agree. Thought we loved him. Guess his medicals were not good.
Also liked Bennett there or Grady Jarrett
Didn't really see why we needed OL early. Based on the lst fewyears picks, I'm going to give them some slack.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I'm fine with this. He's a smart player with great feet and plenty of power. I hated losing Parnell, so here's Free's understudy. I'm at a loss with TJ Clemmings fall, but I guess the medical issues are way worse than I thought. I like OLs. They make RBs look good.
