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*Official 2015 Philadelphia Eagles* - Winning when it doesnt count (3 Viewers)
- Thread starter Insein
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I think any legit WR1 who can actually catch the ball, immediately changes the team dramatically.
dhockster
Footballguy
TO was very rarely happy for long wherever he went, and I don't think he could have ever been happy with Donovan. For whatever reason, he just didn't like him.
Insein
Footballguy
Donovan was the one that recruited him to come to Philly. He resented Donovan after he didn't have his back with a contract.
JetMaxx
Footballguy
According to a teammate that was close to McNabb, he was the most insecure player he had ever played with at any level. Like storm out of the locker room when other great NFL QB performances were discussed level insecurity. McNabb was terribly jealous of the adulation TO received upon arrival and success. The entire stadium was singing the TO song for crying out loud. Any wonder McNabb told him to shut the **** up when he came back to the huddle claiming he was open? Any wonder McNabb endorsed Westbrook when asked about TO absence in the wake of his injury? Great leadership 5. He didn't lead at all. A leader knows the strengths and weaknesses of the men under his charge and gets the best out of them. Was TO a petulant, immature man child? Absolutely. Did he need to be coddled? Most likely. But McNabb's insecurity and jealousy wouldn't allow it. As a fan, I feel robbed of the 05-10 experience you spoke of. 2004 was probably my favorite year as a fan. It was incredible in every way until Roy Williams broke TO's ankle. I find it ironic and sadistically pleasing, now that McNabb is retired and desires HOF adulation, that his induction would likely have been secured had he supported and played with a healthy TO as his career came to a close.
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modogg
Footballguy
honey bagder was never thought of as bad characyrt. he smoked pot to assist with his anxiety. even if it was just recreational, i would be embarrased for any NFL team that would stay away from a college player cause he smoked pot once or twice
JetMaxx
Footballguy
Once or twice? Come on man.
What is edited? I bolded what you said. Which you said you didn't say. So yes, you said we'd be at least in the nfc championship with a WORSE qb then the one we have now. You've lost your mind Insein.I seem to mention Maclin in there. And the original is unedited. Who's got credibility issues?Deamon said:There, I found it for you. Funny you challenge me to find it, and then you go and delete your original post
I stick to him not looking awful. He did enough to beat an undefeated team on the road. And you want Sanchez in
. You're more foolish then you'll ever admit.Some character guys pan out, some don't clearly. I don't fault Chip for letting Desean go. Mccoy we got a great return on. Maclin is the only one I was sad to see go, but again, who are we to know what went on with him. Even if we didn't sign Murray, and went with a rookie RB to back up Mathews, who knows if we would have wanted to pay Maclin the money KC did. They certainly overpayed for him.Once or twice? Come on man.
Fact is, some moves pay off, some don't. For the most part, I think Chip's overall moves have helped the team as a whole (including offense and defense). The ones that didn't, I don't fault him for taking the risks. Let's see what we have coming out of the bye and see what this team can do. You have all offseason to be down and upset about the eagles, why not try to enjoy the 2 months or so that we have cheering the team on and looking forward to Sundays.
Insein
Footballguy
It's obvious you have no intention of having a debate since you ignore things like facts and reality. In every possible category over the course of their careers, Foles is better than Bradford.What is edited? I bolded what you said. Which you said you didn't say. So yes, you said we'd be at least in the nfc championship with a WORSE qb then the one we have now. You've lost your mind Insein.I seem to mention Maclin in there. And the original is unedited. Who's got credibility issues?Deamon said:There, I found it for you. Funny you challenge me to find it, and then you go and delete your original post
Insein
Footballguy
Oh I must've missed where we won on Sunday. Did we win Sunday guys? We're 4-3 now right? Top of the division?I stick to him not looking awful. He did enough to beat an undefeated team on the road. And you want Sanchez in
No? Oh then I guess he didn't do enough to win because we didn't.
Insein
Footballguy
Careful Jet, don't want to get the stigma of being negative.Some character guys pan out, some don't clearly. I don't fault Chip for letting Desean go. Mccoy we got a great return on. Maclin is the only one I was sad to see go, but again, who are we to know what went on with him. Even if we didn't sign Murray, and went with a rookie RB to back up Mathews, who knows if we would have wanted to pay Maclin the money KC did. They certainly overpayed for him. Fact is, some moves pay off, some don't. For the most part, I think Chip's overall moves have helped the team as a whole (including offense and defense). The ones that didn't, I don't fault him for taking the risks. Let's see what we have coming out of the bye and see what this team can do. You have all offseason to be down and upset about the eagles, why not try to enjoy the 2 months or so that we have cheering the team on and looking forward to Sundays.Once or twice? Come on man.
We would have if our run d didn't allow 210 yards of rushing. Not a single mention of that because it doesn't fit your agenda. So yes, he played a good enough game to win and our receivers blew it. Not everything is on the QB, like poster after poster has said on here which you've ignorantly ignored because what you say goes when you get on one of your bitter tangents. I'm excited for when we beat Dallas and you'll have no one to complain to about how ####ty our qb played.Oh I must've missed where we won on Sunday. Did we win Sunday guys? We're 4-3 now right? Top of the division?I stick to him not looking awful. He did enough to beat an undefeated team on the road. And you want Sanchez in
No? Oh then I guess he didn't do enough to win because we didn't.
this doesn't even make sense. You're reaching now.Careful Jet, don't want to get the stigma of being negative.Some character guys pan out, some don't clearly. I don't fault Chip for letting Desean go. Mccoy we got a great return on. Maclin is the only one I was sad to see go, but again, who are we to know what went on with him. Even if we didn't sign Murray, and went with a rookie RB to back up Mathews, who knows if we would have wanted to pay Maclin the money KC did. They certainly overpayed for him. Fact is, some moves pay off, some don't. For the most part, I think Chip's overall moves have helped the team as a whole (including offense and defense). The ones that didn't, I don't fault him for taking the risks. Let's see what we have coming out of the bye and see what this team can do. You have all offseason to be down and upset about the eagles, why not try to enjoy the 2 months or so that we have cheering the team on and looking forward to Sundays.Once or twice? Come on man.
Foles was a product of Kellys offense. Take him out of it and look how bad he looks. It's a shame because St. Louis has a super bowl caliber defense and Foles is ruining it for them. Such a waste.It's obvious you have no intention of having a debate since you ignore things like facts and reality. In every possible category over the course of their careers, Foles is better than Bradford.What is edited? I bolded what you said. Which you said you didn't say. So yes, you said we'd be at least in the nfc championship with a WORSE qb then the one we have now. You've lost your mind Insein.I seem to mention Maclin in there. And the original is unedited. Who's got credibility issues?Deamon said:There, I found it for you. Funny you challenge me to find it, and then you go and delete your original post
Insein
Footballguy
Funny how Foles is a product of Kelly's offense but so far the only successful QB to run it.Foles was a product of Kellys offense. Take him out of it and look how bad he looks. It's a shame because St. Louis has a super bowl caliber defense and Foles is ruining it for them. Such a waste.It's obvious you have no intention of having a debate since you ignore things like facts and reality. In every possible category over the course of their careers, Foles is better than Bradford.What is edited? I bolded what you said. Which you said you didn't say. So yes, you said we'd be at least in the nfc championship with a WORSE qb then the one we have now. You've lost your mind Insein.I seem to mention Maclin in there. And the original is unedited. Who's got credibility issues?Deamon said:There, I found it for you. Funny you challenge me to find it, and then you go and delete your original post
Insein
Footballguy
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Insein
Footballguy
The scenario Junior and Deamon present is far more depressing than the criticism I bring. If Kellys offense has looked average to bad for about a year now and the best it ever looked was with that terrible QB Foles, that no talent thug Desean and that washed up RB McCoy, then how bad do the guys we have now suck?
You mean the scenario that we both seem to think that Bradford hasn't been great, but hasn't been our biggest problem? That we are optimistic he will turn it around? Teams have adjusted to Kellys offense. Kelly had a better line last year, and better receivers last year. So yes I think Bradford > Foles, Murray/Mathews > McCoy. Don't think we are as good without Maclin, but not sure we would have even signed him anyways with the extra difference in money between Foles and Bradford.
Nothing is more depressing then the criticism you bring. It must be depressing hating your team, typing nothing but negative things each week in the team thread you started, and already giving up on the season in week 7. I actually feel bad for you that you have so little optimism left that you have resorted to that. Starting to doubt how excited you will be when Bradford throws a nice TD pass vs Dallas next week. Will you even be happy and enjoy that moment or sit and cringe?
Not fishing. Care to keep going off about how many excuses Foles has to blame for his lack of numbers? I mean, we can't use other players as excuses for Sam, so I guess you can't about Foles either... but you do.
Miraculously you have talked yourself into arguing both sides of the coin. I know you bought a Foles jersey and keep posting about that, but if that's why you're so attached I'll gladly personally buy and send you a new Eagles jersey if it will shut you up about a player you can't move on from who will NEVER be an Eagle again.
Insein
Footballguy
For being a Philly fan, you sure don't understand Philly fans. It's not about Foles so much as its about constantly being disappointed by our teams and coaches that we put faith into. When Foles did what he did in 2013, that was special. That was rare. QBs don't just put numbers like that up by accident. Kelly being a "genius", I figured he got that and would utilize talent.Not fishing. Care to keep going off about how many excuses Foles has to blame for his lack of numbers? I mean, we can't use other players as excuses for Sam, so I guess you can't about Foles either... but you do. Miraculously you have talked yourself into arguing both sides of the coin. I know you bought a Foles jersey and keep posting about that, but if that's why you're so attached I'll gladly personally buy and send you a new Eagles jersey if it will shut you up about a player you can't move on from who will NEVER be an Eagle again.
My first disappointment with Kelly was the nonsense with Desean. Ok he's a knucklehead and on the surface. Who wants to deal with that but he was a player that had skills. So ok you let him go and Maclin replicated his numbers. But you could have had Maclin and Desean or at the very least got something for a 27 year old WR who just had 1300 yards and 9tds. Simply cutting him showed a complete lack of understanding on how to handle the situation. But coach knows best so we move on.
My second disappointment his lack of faith in Foles. Despite the obvious staring him the face that Foles ran his offense well and it was a defense that let them down in the playoff game, he never really embraced Foles and seemed almost happy when he was hurt to get Sanchez, the hot new toy for him, in there. Fine he's the coach, he knows better than us blah blah.
Once Sanchez proved to be himself, we figure he'd realize that Foles is still the best QB to run his offense of the 4 that tried at that point and if he didn't break his collar bone, they most likely go back to the playoffs last year. The only way we'd accept an upgrade was for Mariota, which was a pipe dream. So no big deal at least we have Foles and Maclin with a good report in their 3rd years learning the offense. So this will be good. But no, Maclin we let linger and get outbid and then we get the Bradford trade.
The trade made no sense. So much speculation came out that day by the media and fans that we were getting the Rams #10 pick because no one could believe Kelly would trade a younger QB with better stats away for a guy who had proven nothing even before having 2 knee surgeries. But no, instead we find out not only did he trade the statistically better QB for the lesser one, he threw in a 2nd rounder to boot. Thus a huge strike in confidence that Kelly, while a decent coach, may not grasp how NFL value works.
But we give him faith that he can do this. We all fall for the Bradford preseason spectacular despite being warned that this is exactly what's he's done in the past. HOF in shorts, underachiever on the field. We put all our faith in this guy that the coach knew what he was doing and had found a guy that could really run his offense because he got rid of a QB that showed he already could do it. We had faith that Kelly would lean on the new rushing attack he put together in the off season and really find new innovative ways to attack a defense. We'd get the TEs going and really show the NFL that this offense can beat you any way it wanted.
And through 7 games, we've seen the offense devolve. He's slowed the pace. He's shortened the play book. He's dumbed down the routes. He's done everything you would do for a rookie QB who just wasn't getting what you were trying to run in order to hide his inadequacies as much as you can.
This has been a huge disappointment. We were sold a guy with all the skills just looking for a new situation and offense to show he belonged. Instead we get a guy in his 6th year trying to prove week to week that he should even be an NFL QB.
That's when all the random moves and little stories about Kellys shortcomings start getting louder. Stuff we brushed off before as haters being haters suddenly don't seem so outlandish. And I hate that the most. How can I defend Kelly when I don't believe in the some of the moves he's making myself.
That's why I'm angry. I've had faith in Kelly many times and more and more I've been proven a moron for having it so far. And at some point you stop having faith and say ok prove to me you know what you're doing because it doesn't look like it from where I'm sitting.
DeSean Jackson is a punk. He does one thing well, he occasionally gets open on a fly pattern. IF he isn't upset with the team. Because then he admits he only goes half speed. I'd have cut his punk ### too.
Bradford's failure to become Tom Brady would make me mad if we gave up Aaron Rodgers for him. Bug w ed gave up Nick 'Average' Foles. Who's continued to barely even be that in St Louis.
For the record, I liked the trade at the time. I liked signing Murray. Liked signing Maxwell, and liked trading McCoy.
Didn't understand signing Ryan Mathews too. Should have been one or the other. Didn't like letting Mathis go. Didn't like letting Maclin go. So I was about 50% in agreement. That being said, those deals are all done. Why spend the entire season whining and batching about them? Just casts an entire negative vibe around the team. Some of you guys seem to hate the Eagles more than Cowboy fans do. Some people just love being miserable.
Bradford's failure to become Tom Brady would make me mad if we gave up Aaron Rodgers for him. Bug w ed gave up Nick 'Average' Foles. Who's continued to barely even be that in St Louis.
For the record, I liked the trade at the time. I liked signing Murray. Liked signing Maxwell, and liked trading McCoy.
Didn't understand signing Ryan Mathews too. Should have been one or the other. Didn't like letting Mathis go. Didn't like letting Maclin go. So I was about 50% in agreement. That being said, those deals are all done. Why spend the entire season whining and batching about them? Just casts an entire negative vibe around the team. Some of you guys seem to hate the Eagles more than Cowboy fans do. Some people just love being miserable.
I highly doubt a Cowboy fan could be any more hateful than some of the supposed-Eagle fan in this thread.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
While I admire the passion that everyone who posts in here has, it's getting old with the constant "I'm a more positive fan than you!"
schtick.
I don't think a single person here wants Bradford to fail. This is about anger directed at Chip. If you step back objectively and look at what Chip traded to get Bradford it's hard not to be a little outraged. A second pick, the money--it's really one sided. And I do actually think Bradford has a better ceiling than Foles. It's just that this singular move is the centerpiece of all the moves Chip has made. And right now, a lot of these moves are really looking terrible. The WR core is BAD. I mean really bad. Where would any of these guys fit on another team? Even Mathews...I mean come on, he's a big slot reciever (not ideal when big guys are easy targets for getting blown up) who can't play OUTSIDE. This makes him a #3. Not even a two. Huff? I think about 30 other teams would outright cut him. Cooper and Austin? Imagine now if for a million dollars more, you could still have Maclin? I hope Agholar pans out but he's a rookie trying to be the outside number one. That's just unlikely. Then we get to RB situation and to everyone that has normal vision--Mathews is clearly the better back than Murray. Look, I like Murray a lot and was stoked to get him. I also understand Mathews' injury history so having two big backs is a smart idea. BUT...we all here Chips philosophy of playing the best guy but how can you not think that Chip the GM has painted the coach into a corner by having to give Murray almost 4-1 touches to justify difference in salary? And something really stinks at NovaCare. I feel like Chip is outright lying his ### off to us. Not one reporter could corroborate Mathews being injured. Putting this on staley? Come on man.
Chip wanted it all and he got it. And right now I can't believe anyone of us isn't questioning some of this. Some of us are picking different pieces that's all. I'm ok with Bradford. I've stayed out of that p!ssing match but I don't fault anyone for doubting. Myself, I'm extremely disappointed in the lack of talent at WR and this makes me think Chip feels his system is plug and play and it's been proven year after year after year that it "ain't the Xs and the Os but the Billy's and the joes" that make a team win. You dint think Carrol has his hands full with Lynch and Sherman? Chip won't tolerate any discrepancie in personality and I think this makes him a fool. Read maclins comments about how he felt cast off during the negotiations.
Look, I really want to like Chip and admire what he's doing but every passing week makes me think he's a tyrant. Brain Baldinger (who I respect immensely) said that around the league, others coaches are rejoicing at Kelly's failures. They can stand the smug way he though he'd waltz in and change the game. I really want to be on his side but the more I see....I see a guy way in over his head with his "theories."
Anyway, no matter what, I love the passion and energy in this group. It's the best team thread going even if we fight a lot. I'm betting if we all sat down at a bar somewhere, we'd be arguing but buying each other drinks and busting balls and back slapping each other!
schtick.
I don't think a single person here wants Bradford to fail. This is about anger directed at Chip. If you step back objectively and look at what Chip traded to get Bradford it's hard not to be a little outraged. A second pick, the money--it's really one sided. And I do actually think Bradford has a better ceiling than Foles. It's just that this singular move is the centerpiece of all the moves Chip has made. And right now, a lot of these moves are really looking terrible. The WR core is BAD. I mean really bad. Where would any of these guys fit on another team? Even Mathews...I mean come on, he's a big slot reciever (not ideal when big guys are easy targets for getting blown up) who can't play OUTSIDE. This makes him a #3. Not even a two. Huff? I think about 30 other teams would outright cut him. Cooper and Austin? Imagine now if for a million dollars more, you could still have Maclin? I hope Agholar pans out but he's a rookie trying to be the outside number one. That's just unlikely. Then we get to RB situation and to everyone that has normal vision--Mathews is clearly the better back than Murray. Look, I like Murray a lot and was stoked to get him. I also understand Mathews' injury history so having two big backs is a smart idea. BUT...we all here Chips philosophy of playing the best guy but how can you not think that Chip the GM has painted the coach into a corner by having to give Murray almost 4-1 touches to justify difference in salary? And something really stinks at NovaCare. I feel like Chip is outright lying his ### off to us. Not one reporter could corroborate Mathews being injured. Putting this on staley? Come on man.
Chip wanted it all and he got it. And right now I can't believe anyone of us isn't questioning some of this. Some of us are picking different pieces that's all. I'm ok with Bradford. I've stayed out of that p!ssing match but I don't fault anyone for doubting. Myself, I'm extremely disappointed in the lack of talent at WR and this makes me think Chip feels his system is plug and play and it's been proven year after year after year that it "ain't the Xs and the Os but the Billy's and the joes" that make a team win. You dint think Carrol has his hands full with Lynch and Sherman? Chip won't tolerate any discrepancie in personality and I think this makes him a fool. Read maclins comments about how he felt cast off during the negotiations.
Look, I really want to like Chip and admire what he's doing but every passing week makes me think he's a tyrant. Brain Baldinger (who I respect immensely) said that around the league, others coaches are rejoicing at Kelly's failures. They can stand the smug way he though he'd waltz in and change the game. I really want to be on his side but the more I see....I see a guy way in over his head with his "theories."
Anyway, no matter what, I love the passion and energy in this group. It's the best team thread going even if we fight a lot. I'm betting if we all sat down at a bar somewhere, we'd be arguing but buying each other drinks and busting balls and back slapping each other!
There's a huge difference between being a fan who criticizes some personnel moves or how a guy performs, and just being a hateful tool who hates the coach, the quarterback, the running back....and every single thing they do. If I had a dollar for every time I've criticized Bradford's red zone decision making and/or throws, or said he's playing like he's not comfortable, I could take a week off of work. But I'm also smart enough to know that hitting Huff in the hands in the back of the endzone with a perfect pass should have been a touchdown. And that two interceptions that bounced off of Matthews' hands, were of no fault of Bradford's. Some people either don't understand football and probably shouldn't post as much, or have just decided to hate all of Chip's moves so they're going to just whine and complain all season and not ever give credit to one of Chip's acquisitions. If we were 1-6 and had no shot, then be a complainer. When we're only one game back of the division lead (to a team we destroyed two weeks ago), then how about a little hope and optimism? I've just never been around so many miserable whiny people. Eagle fans used to act like they were rooting for the Eagles. Now, it's more important for them to convince people they know more than the coach.
Insein
Footballguy
Well I'm sorry you're not a real fan then. Have fun bring a cheerleader where everything is ra ra go team.
Read my last few posts. In fact, read all of my posts. I have plenty of criticisms. I'm just not a miserable whiny dork like some people. I still root for my team. You should try it. I'd swallow a bullet if I was as miserable and negative as you.
jon007
Footballguy
Insein, Junior, Deamon, and ShaHBucks please refer to the link below.
http://i.imgur.com/t5lYPSr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/t5lYPSr.jpg
Insein
Footballguy
Well I mean since we're baselessly throwing around how someone is not a fan because they don't fit the neat little mold you have for one I figured I'd try it out. Despite all the stupidity and vitriol from you and Deamon, I never accused you of not being a fan but anyone that dares voice criticisms about an underachieving team is suddenly not a real fan. Or voice criticism that isn't filled out in the proper format as you deem fit. Point is, you disagree, I disagree but I never attacked you personally.
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GoBirds
Footballguy
Steadydooshin hasn't been around as much during the 4 game losing streak....hmmm
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
At this point we're just arguing which turd is the smelliest week to week. Let's see how this all plays out over a full 16 and go from there.Insein said:
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I'd say context is kind of key here. Bradford has arguably the worst skill players in the league, that's a pretty big deal IMO. Foles didn't have that issue here.Insein said:
Insein
Footballguy
dhockster
Footballguy
You guys are just yelling past each other. No one is changing anyone's mind. Can't we all just get along?
Foles also had the best line in the NFL in 2013 (the year he didn't suck) and McCoy was great that year. The stars aligned. He still couldn't win a home playoff game though.
Insein
Footballguy
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Might not work. I have Steadytrollin on ignore and I'm sure others on here do too.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Not either of the QB we're discussing.
I'm just saying comparing what Foles did here to what Bradford has done is not apples-to-apples.
Who has been Bradford's best WR or TE since he's been in the league? I don't know off hand but I would bet that list is one of the worst ever.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Fan/Not a Fan Ranks for Week of October 26:
Insein - Fan
Dhockster - Not a Fan
Deamon - Fan
Pip's Invitation - Fan
Shahbucks - Not a Fan
GoBirds - Not a Fan
jon007 - Fan
JuniorNB - Not a Fan
Kwai Chang Caine - Fan
Fred_123123151414 - Not a Fan
Bigboy12313141244 - N/A (impartial NFL employee)
Insein - Fan
Dhockster - Not a Fan
Deamon - Fan
Pip's Invitation - Fan
Shahbucks - Not a Fan
GoBirds - Not a Fan
jon007 - Fan
JuniorNB - Not a Fan
Kwai Chang Caine - Fan
Fred_123123151414 - Not a Fan
Bigboy12313141244 - N/A (impartial NFL employee)
Mighty Mice
Footballguy
Agree, and I just read a piece this this today
Joel Corry says you can thank Ryan Grigson for “screwing up the running back position” for the Eagles.
If the Colts general manager (and former Eagles director of personnel) didn’t ink receiver Andre Johnson to a free-agent deal this offseason, Corry theorizes, perhaps fellow University of Miami product Frank Gore wouldn’t have had a change of heart and backed out of his verbal commitment to Philadelphia.
"And then you have Frank Gore and Ryan Mathews and that financially makes more sense because when you have a $3 million second back you can have $4-5 million first back...where you're going to be splitting carries," said Corry, the former agent turned NFL contracts and salary-cap expert for National Football Post and CBS Sports. "When you've got Murray, who is an $8 million per year back, that's a problem."
To Corry's point, Mathews is making $3.67 million annually with the Eagles, while Gore is averaging $4 million in Indianapolis. No harm in splitting carries down the middle with that set-up. And if one happens to significantly out-perform the other along the way, then so be it -- you ride the hot hand.
With Murray, it's a little more complicated.
Through seven games, Murray (88 carries, 307 yards, 3.5 average) has gotten the larger share of the reps despite being outperformed by Mathews (56 attempts, 342 yards, 6.1 avg.). Chip Kelly cited injury in explaining the workload distribution. Mathews hurt his groin on a second-quarter run against the Panthers, he said, and felt it again on his 63-yard touchdown gallop in the third.
"He has been hurt the last two weeks. He was questionable going into the Giants game, and then he got hurt again last night," said Kelly on the difference in carries over the course of the season. That ignores the fact that Murray has lost time to injury as well, sitting out the Jets game because of a hamstring.
Mathews' injury history does need to be considered when constructing an argument on how Kelly and Duce Staley should split the reps. He only appeared in six games last season, and has played the full 16 just once since being selected 12th overall by the Chargers in 2010. Despite being drafted a year after Mathews, Murray has more carries, yards and touchdowns than the Fresno State product. He is a workhorse by nature, and is at his best when he is getting fed regularly.
There are legit football reasons to keep Murray as the primary, but it seems foolish to not factor money into the equation as well. Murray has $21 million guaranteed to Mathews' $5 million. Murray's full base of $7 million in 2016 is guaranteed next season, as is $2 million of his 2017 earnings. It's incumbent upon Kelly and the Eagles to get the former rushing champ going and keep him invested.
"Ideally you're going to play the most productive guy, but when you have a big-money free agent or a high pick, there's motivation to make that thing work, and you're going to give it more time than you would in any other situation because nobody wants to admit or be seen making a huge mistake in a player acquisition," said Corry.
"[Money], yeah, that factors into it. I remember from representing players having too many conversations about guys who are outperforming players who are high picks or who had a lot of money invested in them, and having those guys talk about how everything isn't run by merit."
The idea that the Eagles might be better off with an increased workload for Mathews isn't a new one. Heading into the season, some within the building thought that Mathews would be a more natural scheme fit. So it's not like the coaching staff was caught totally off guard by this development. And yet Murray has continued to be the primary.There are several reasons why, and it seems fair to include money as one of them .
"They've gotta try to make it work," said Corry.
http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/10/29/eagles-wake-up-call-with-murray-money-cant-be-ignored/#dtJFHX4IfVAJx7ru.99
Insein
Footballguy
Dammit! I'll try harder. I'm ordering a Foles jersey as we speak.
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