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*Official 2015 Philadelphia Eagles* - Winning when it doesnt count (1 Viewer)
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Maggot Brain
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https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/12/07/pro-bill-belichick-is-right-fletcher-cox-is-really-good/
Patriots head coach Bill Belichick said all week, and again after the Patriots’ loss to Philadelphia Sunday, that Fletcher Cox is one of the league’s best defensive linemen. And while Cox didn’t notch a single sack against the Patriots, he was a dominant force once more in a season in which he isn’t getting nearly enough credit.
For once the numbers guys and Belichick are on the same page publicly.
Cox didn’t get a sack on Brady, but took him to the ground four times and notched 14 total pressures in the game on 50 pass-rushing snaps. No other defender notched more pressures this week.
Cox and Brandon Graham in particular were a major force against Tom Brady all game long. The pair combined for 24 total pressures, with Vinny Curry and Connor Barwin chipping in with another three sacks and nine additional pressures.
Despite being accepted as a pretty good player, Cox, like many other defensive line studs, will remain in the shadow of J.J. Watt, one of the league’s most dominant forces.
Watt is again crushing all comers this season, but Cox is one of a number of players having excellent seasons in his own right, and plays in an interesting scheme that might make his grades even more impressive.
While league-wide the two-gapping 3-4 defenses of old have almost died out, the Eagles still run more of it than anybody else, meaning their defensive line trio of Cox, Bennie Logan at nose tackle and Cedric Thornton at the other defensive end spot are head-up over blockers more than any other team in the league. Instead of attacking gaps and disrupting in the backfield, they are tasked with standing up a blocker and defending the gap on either side of him – an inherently tougher thing to do and be productive at.
Cox doesn’t have the attacking free reign that other players, even at his position, have in the NFL, and yet he continues to be consistently productive. This season he has 59 total pressures and two batted passes, and has also graded well against the run.
He is one of seven players to earn our blue-chip rating over the season among all defensive interior players, and when Belichick praises him as one of the best defensive linemen in the NFL, he is right on point — whether Cox managed to record a sack in the game or not.
There are few players as disruptive as Cox, and if the Eagles can get the kind of support play from those around him that they got from the rest of that defense this week, this is a unit talented enough to cause problems for a lot of teams.
Patriots head coach Bill Belichick said all week, and again after the Patriots’ loss to Philadelphia Sunday, that Fletcher Cox is one of the league’s best defensive linemen. And while Cox didn’t notch a single sack against the Patriots, he was a dominant force once more in a season in which he isn’t getting nearly enough credit.
For once the numbers guys and Belichick are on the same page publicly.
Cox didn’t get a sack on Brady, but took him to the ground four times and notched 14 total pressures in the game on 50 pass-rushing snaps. No other defender notched more pressures this week.
Cox and Brandon Graham in particular were a major force against Tom Brady all game long. The pair combined for 24 total pressures, with Vinny Curry and Connor Barwin chipping in with another three sacks and nine additional pressures.
Despite being accepted as a pretty good player, Cox, like many other defensive line studs, will remain in the shadow of J.J. Watt, one of the league’s most dominant forces.
Watt is again crushing all comers this season, but Cox is one of a number of players having excellent seasons in his own right, and plays in an interesting scheme that might make his grades even more impressive.
While league-wide the two-gapping 3-4 defenses of old have almost died out, the Eagles still run more of it than anybody else, meaning their defensive line trio of Cox, Bennie Logan at nose tackle and Cedric Thornton at the other defensive end spot are head-up over blockers more than any other team in the league. Instead of attacking gaps and disrupting in the backfield, they are tasked with standing up a blocker and defending the gap on either side of him – an inherently tougher thing to do and be productive at.
Cox doesn’t have the attacking free reign that other players, even at his position, have in the NFL, and yet he continues to be consistently productive. This season he has 59 total pressures and two batted passes, and has also graded well against the run.
He is one of seven players to earn our blue-chip rating over the season among all defensive interior players, and when Belichick praises him as one of the best defensive linemen in the NFL, he is right on point — whether Cox managed to record a sack in the game or not.
There are few players as disruptive as Cox, and if the Eagles can get the kind of support play from those around him that they got from the rest of that defense this week, this is a unit talented enough to cause problems for a lot of teams.
duaneok66
Footballguy
Insein
Footballguy
Spotrac is estimating Tyrod Taylor at 4 years $82mil. Bradford will have better passing numbers and possibly a playoff appearance. Sam will be paid the going rate in the $17-20 mil range. These last 4 games will show us if he's worth it.
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Mighty Mice
Footballguy
Interesting article I came across: http://fivethirtyeig...in-nfl-history/
Carolina's week 17 comeback v Cleveland last year avoided the record being bested by the NFC South teams. This years NFC East? 10 wins and counting. Just one more, guys!
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Through last season, the 2008 NFC West remains the worst division in sports history. (The Cardinals won the division with a 9-7 record. 6-0 in division, 3-7 outside of division). The table below shows all 897 division-seasons that have taken place in the four major American sports leagues since divisions were instituted.These seasons are sorted by winning percentage in non-division games.
RANK YEAR LEAGUE DIVISION NON-DIV WINS NON-DIV LOSSES NON-DIV WIN %
1 2008 NFL NFC West 10 30 .250
2 2014 NFL NFC South 10.5 29.5 .263
3 2008 NFL AFC West 11 29 .275
4 1984 NFL NFC Central 11.5 28.5 .288
5 1979 NHL Smythe 65 159 .290
6 2009 NFL NFC West 12 28 .300
7 2013 NFL AFC South 12 28 .300
8 1982 NFL NFC West 7 15 .318
9 1979 NFL NFC West 13 27 .325
10 1984 NFL AFC Central 13 27 .325
Carolina's week 17 comeback v Cleveland last year avoided the record being bested by the NFC South teams. This years NFC East? 10 wins and counting. Just one more, guys!
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Through last season, the 2008 NFC West remains the worst division in sports history. (The Cardinals won the division with a 9-7 record. 6-0 in division, 3-7 outside of division). The table below shows all 897 division-seasons that have taken place in the four major American sports leagues since divisions were instituted.These seasons are sorted by winning percentage in non-division games.
RANK YEAR LEAGUE DIVISION NON-DIV WINS NON-DIV LOSSES NON-DIV WIN %
1 2008 NFL NFC West 10 30 .250
2 2014 NFL NFC South 10.5 29.5 .263
3 2008 NFL AFC West 11 29 .275
4 1984 NFL NFC Central 11.5 28.5 .288
5 1979 NHL Smythe 65 159 .290
6 2009 NFL NFC West 12 28 .300
7 2013 NFL AFC South 12 28 .300
8 1982 NFL NFC West 7 15 .318
9 1979 NFL NFC West 13 27 .325
10 1984 NFL AFC Central 13 27 .325
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
God Bless the Smythe Division.
jon007
Footballguy
McCoy can barely hold his #### together with interviews this week. I can't possibly see how this benefits McCoy. T-mobile is real threat on that offense. We need to play McCoy just like any other running back. Sure he may be extra motivated but I don't think it will take much for him to lose his composure possibly play one of his worst games of the season.
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Ya I don't feel great about it. The more I think of it I think we lose the next 2 (while playing better and keeping them close), and then win the final 2 and take the div.
27-24 type game.
The Duff Man
Footballguy
The Bills figure to play a role in who wins the NFC East as they play Philly, Was, Dal the next three weeks.
Overall most Redskins fans feel he's really good for what he has cost so far. Next year his cap hit goes up though. As far as that punt return I don't have much of a problem with it overall since that's Jackson's game. He typically doesn't return punts and they put him back there to make a play. unfortunately he's so apt to fumble (Eagles fans have seen that before), you just have to understand that that's always going to be a part of Jackson's game. He's probably about as likely to fumble it as he is to bust a long one for A TD.
ETA: I don't think you'd have many football fans in general argue that he's a #1 wr. He has a special talent to stretch the field in a way not many players can and he does a ton with the ball in his hands, but he's most effective as a complimentary piece in an offense, not the feature.
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I literally no zero Redskins fans who consider Jackson as our # 1 receiver. And I live and work in DC, so I run into a lot of them! Truly, the # 1 receiving threat on the Redskins is Jordan Reed. Even Garcon is an afterthought.
What I think Washington does have in Jackson is a dynamic playmaker who can stretch the field (when healthy). And honestly, you really can see the difference when he's in there. He gives the Redskins offense something they simply don't have otherwise.
The problem with Jackson is simply that he can't stay healthy, and so, at 9M + it's quite a hefty price to pay. I'd love it if they could keep him, but if they can sign someone else who can stretch the field in similar fashion for a lesser price, they probably should and will do it. So, at least for this one Redskins fan, I'm not under any kind of illusion with Jackson that he is some stud # 1 receiver. But fact is, he really does have playmaking ability when healthy, and that's unique on a Washington team that simply doesn't have that kind of speed at the WR position otherwise.
I suppose I could just as easily say that Philadelphia fans are just all too eager to downplay Jackson's ability since he's not on their team anymore. That's kind of an "easy" argument to make to tweak other team's fans. But the reality is Jackson is who he is: a dynamic playmaker who has value stretching the field but who cannot stay healthy as much as you would like.
jon007
Footballguy
Jackson in one game summed up his entire legacy as an Eagle. A bonehead play followed by a brilliant play. In the end you guys still lost the game. Really, does it take until the 4th quarter for Cousins to start looking for Jackson over the top? Jackson has the talent to beat 99% of the corners covering him but some how always falls short. I find it incredibly laughable that the two divas from the cowboys and redskins is who shared jerseys after the game. Neither gave 2 ####s if they won or lost.
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Insein
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
Go back and read the DJax thread from when you got him and all the Skins fans saying how rare it is to get a #1 like him.
Injury thing is dead on, it's week 14 and he has 300 yards? You can call him dynamic or whatever you want, who cares he doesn't play.
He doesn't care that he gave away a shot at a winning drive and gift wrapped the winning TD to the other team, he scored after that so he's good. He's out for him, hasn't improved the Skins W/L at all. In fact they are better this year with him out than when he was playing last year. Way bigger ego than how good he actually is.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Per Chip's presser he will be "eased in." I'd temper expectations for a lot of carries. Now what he might do with ten carries? Who knows?
eh. If you can go back and pull a quote from me saying he's a rare # 1 go for it. I guess I can only speak for myself and not others...so perhaps someone else said he was. You can always cherry pick crazy quotes from "some" Redskins fans and then turn around and call the whole fan base "delusional." That's usually what happens.Go back and read the DJax thread from when you got him and all the Skins fans saying how rare it is to get a #1 like him.
Injury thing is dead on, it's week 14 and he has 300 yards? You can call him dynamic or whatever you want, who cares he doesn't play.
He doesn't care that he gave away a shot at a winning drive and gift wrapped the winning TD to the other team, he scored after that so he's good. He's out for him, hasn't improved the Skins W/L at all. In fact they are better this year with him out than when he was playing last year. Way bigger ego than how good he actually is.
Somebody above made the point that we "still lost the game" and DJax was why. FIrst of all, let's just be clear...a lot of teams lose games and you don't conclude that everyone on the team is a bum. Eagles are 5-7, same as the Redskins, with higher expectations. Using this logic, we should conclude that everyone on the Eagles team is a bust? I don't think so...that's just way too simplistic.
Besides, DJax didn't cost the Redskins that game...crappy offense the ENTIRE game cost them that game. They had 9 points through 3.5 quarters and that wasn't because DJAx was dropping the ball. DC press has pointed out that DJAx was open earlier in the game and Cousins didn't hit him, either because he was under too much pressure or just didn't pull the trigger. To ignore the first 3.5 quarters then say "DJAX lost you the game" that's just something you say to feed into the Philadelphia fan narrative which is: "We are better off that he's not with us." Did he make a mistake that hurt the team? Yes. Should he alone be pointed to as the cause of the loss. No way.
None of this is to say that I'm crazy about Jackson. As I say, if I could find someone who could stretch the field for less $, and stay healthy, I'd be happy if they got rid of him for someone else. IN the meantime, there is no denying that he brings something unique to the REdkins at this point and time.
Bottom line: you don't have to bury a guy in "black and white" fashion to keep from being "delusional." You can be just as "delusional" burying a guy outright as saying he's a stud outright. The truth here, just in my opinion, is in the middle. But you guys watched him for a lot of years so I respect what you have to say about him. Though...to be fair, when he was on your team, I heard Eagles fans singing his praises as well...it just seems kind of "convenient" now that you all "never liked him" somehow...
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GoBirds
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
Wasn't pinning that claim on you, but there were plenty.eh. If you can go back and pull a quote from me saying he's a rare # 1 go for it. I guess I can only speak for myself and not others...so perhaps someone else said he was. You can always cherry pick crazy quotes from "some" Redskins fans and then turn around and call the whole fan base "delusional." That's usually what happens.Go back and read the DJax thread from when you got him and all the Skins fans saying how rare it is to get a #1 like him.
Injury thing is dead on, it's week 14 and he has 300 yards? You can call him dynamic or whatever you want, who cares he doesn't play.
He doesn't care that he gave away a shot at a winning drive and gift wrapped the winning TD to the other team, he scored after that so he's good. He's out for him, hasn't improved the Skins W/L at all. In fact they are better this year with him out than when he was playing last year. Way bigger ego than how good he actually is.
Somebody above made the point that we "still lost the game" and DJax was why. FIrst of all, let's just be clear...a lot of teams lose games and you don't conclude that everyone on the team is a bum. Eagles are 5-7, same as the Redskins, with higher expectations. Using this logic, we should conclude that everyone on the Eagles team is a bust? I don't think so...that's just way too simplistic.
Besides, DJax didn't cost the Redskins that game...crappy offense the ENTIRE game cost them that game. They had 9 points through 3.5 quarters and that wasn't because DJAx was dropping the ball. DC press has pointed out that DJAx was open earlier in the game and Cousins didn't hit him, either because he was under too much pressure or just didn't pull the trigger. To ignore the first 3.5 quarters then say "DJAX lost you the game" that's just something you say to feed into the Philadelphia fan narrative which is: "We are better off that he's not with us." Did he make a mistake that hurt the team? Yes. Should he alone be pointed to as the cause of the loss. No way.
None of this is to say that I'm crazy about Jackson. As I say, if I could find someone who could stretch the field for less $, and stay healthy, I'd be happy if they got rid of him for someone else. IN the meantime, there is no denying that he brings something unique to the REdkins at this point and time.
Bottom line: you don't have to bury a guy in "black and white" fashion to keep from being "delusional." You can be just as "delusional" burying a guy outright as saying he's a stud outright. The truth here, just in my opinion, is in the middle. But you guys watched him for a lot of years so I respect what you have to say about him. Though...to be fair, when he was on your team, I heard Eagles fans singing his praises as well...it just seems kind of "convenient" now that you all "never liked him" somehow...
Not getting into it on this guy again, his stats and the team record with/without him speak for itself. He can make some plays but at the same time that arrogant BS before the punt and the play sum him up pretty well. You can claim that didn't cost you the game just like if the Seahawks scored more in the Superbowl the INT didn't cost them the game I guess. Not getting into that one.
Loved Maclin, hate that he's gone. DJax wasn't a bad move by Chip.
I understand where you are coming from, dude.Wasn't pinning that claim on you, but there were plenty.eh. If you can go back and pull a quote from me saying he's a rare # 1 go for it. I guess I can only speak for myself and not others...so perhaps someone else said he was. You can always cherry pick crazy quotes from "some" Redskins fans and then turn around and call the whole fan base "delusional." That's usually what happens.Go back and read the DJax thread from when you got him and all the Skins fans saying how rare it is to get a #1 like him.
Injury thing is dead on, it's week 14 and he has 300 yards? You can call him dynamic or whatever you want, who cares he doesn't play.
He doesn't care that he gave away a shot at a winning drive and gift wrapped the winning TD to the other team, he scored after that so he's good. He's out for him, hasn't improved the Skins W/L at all. In fact they are better this year with him out than when he was playing last year. Way bigger ego than how good he actually is.
Somebody above made the point that we "still lost the game" and DJax was why. FIrst of all, let's just be clear...a lot of teams lose games and you don't conclude that everyone on the team is a bum. Eagles are 5-7, same as the Redskins, with higher expectations. Using this logic, we should conclude that everyone on the Eagles team is a bust? I don't think so...that's just way too simplistic.
Besides, DJax didn't cost the Redskins that game...crappy offense the ENTIRE game cost them that game. They had 9 points through 3.5 quarters and that wasn't because DJAx was dropping the ball. DC press has pointed out that DJAx was open earlier in the game and Cousins didn't hit him, either because he was under too much pressure or just didn't pull the trigger. To ignore the first 3.5 quarters then say "DJAX lost you the game" that's just something you say to feed into the Philadelphia fan narrative which is: "We are better off that he's not with us." Did he make a mistake that hurt the team? Yes. Should he alone be pointed to as the cause of the loss. No way.
None of this is to say that I'm crazy about Jackson. As I say, if I could find someone who could stretch the field for less $, and stay healthy, I'd be happy if they got rid of him for someone else. IN the meantime, there is no denying that he brings something unique to the REdkins at this point and time.
Bottom line: you don't have to bury a guy in "black and white" fashion to keep from being "delusional." You can be just as "delusional" burying a guy outright as saying he's a stud outright. The truth here, just in my opinion, is in the middle. But you guys watched him for a lot of years so I respect what you have to say about him. Though...to be fair, when he was on your team, I heard Eagles fans singing his praises as well...it just seems kind of "convenient" now that you all "never liked him" somehow...
Not getting into it on this guy again, his stats and the team record with/without him speak for itself. He can make some plays but at the same time that arrogant BS before the punt and the play sum him up pretty well. You can claim that didn't cost you the game just like if the Seahawks scored more in the Superbowl the INT didn't cost them the game I guess. Not getting into that one.
Loved Maclin, hate that he's gone. DJax wasn't a bad move by Chip.
Bottom line: I think there's a fair chance he's not on the Eagles OR Redskins two years from now...so may all be moot. We'll see...
At various times this year, I've thought we'd be better if we still had McCoy or if we still had Maclin. I've never once considered us better with DeSean Jackson on board. He's a cancer. Plays hard about 25% of the time. Only cares about himself and self-promoting. Injured as much as he plays. No thanks. I was ecstatic to see him leave.
Autumn Wind
Footballguy
I'd almost prefer it to be a case of bad scheme. Chip gambled and lost, simple as that.
Owned. But then again, there are some of the Eagle fans who are just mad at everyone like Bird guy, others are not and tend to be easier to have a conversation with. DJax is a highly skilled clown, he was both great and an idiot on Philly, Wash, and will continue to be on his next team I would say. Shame he doesn't get it, or he would be a true #1eh. If you can go back and pull a quote from me saying he's a rare # 1 go for it. I guess I can only speak for myself and not others...so perhaps someone else said he was. You can always cherry pick crazy quotes from "some" Redskins fans and then turn around and call the whole fan base "delusional." That's usually what happens. Somebody above made the point that we "still lost the game" and DJax was why. FIrst of all, let's just be clear...a lot of teams lose games and you don't conclude that everyone on the team is a bum. Eagles are 5-7, same as the Redskins, with higher expectations. Using this logic, we should conclude that everyone on the Eagles team is a bust? I don't think so...that's just way too simplistic.Go back and read the DJax thread from when you got him and all the Skins fans saying how rare it is to get a #1 like him.
He doesn't care that he gave away a shot at a winning drive and gift wrapped the winning TD to the other team, he scored after that so he's good. He's out for him, hasn't improved the Skins W/L at all. In fact they are better this year with him out than when he was playing last year. Way bigger ego than how good he actually is.
Besides, DJax didn't cost the Redskins that game...crappy offense the ENTIRE game cost them that game. They had 9 points through 3.5 quarters and that wasn't because DJAx was dropping the ball. DC press has pointed out that DJAx was open earlier in the game and Cousins didn't hit him, either because he was under too much pressure or just didn't pull the trigger. To ignore the first 3.5 quarters then say "DJAX lost you the game" that's just something you say to feed into the Philadelphia fan narrative which is: "We are better off that he's not with us." Did he make a mistake that hurt the team? Yes. Should he alone be pointed to as the cause of the loss. No way.
None of this is to say that I'm crazy about Jackson. As I say, if I could find someone who could stretch the field for less $, and stay healthy, I'd be happy if they got rid of him for someone else. IN the meantime, there is no denying that he brings something unique to the REdkins at this point and time.
Bottom line: you don't have to bury a guy in "black and white" fashion to keep from being "delusional." You can be just as "delusional" burying a guy outright as saying he's a stud outright. The truth here, just in my opinion, is in the middle. But you guys watched him for a lot of years so I respect what you have to say about him. Though...to be fair, when he was on your team, I heard Eagles fans singing his praises as well...it just seems kind of "convenient" now that you all "never liked him" somehow...
How about him admitting that he didn't play full speed the year he wanted an extension and didn't get it? That's when I stopped liking him. What kind of pro athlete making that kind of money would ever have that mindset? Just an egomaniac. And all he is a supplemental player. Definitely not a number one receiver. He runs fly patterns. That's it. One trick pony.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Christ...Murray is turning out to be a bigger diva than McCoy and cancer to boot. Nice going Chip. Glad this is the high quality character culture guy you replaced Shady with. Oh and now Chip is apologizing for the way he handled the McCoy trade.
Chip and this roster is like watching a meth addict "repair" a television set. I can't wait for him to be gone. Plus, it's apparent Alonzo is a bust. This trade is epically bad.
Chip should be managing a fast food restaurant, not an NFL team.
Yes. I am seriously PISSED off!
GoBirds
Footballguy
Kevin Kolb sighting.....don't be bitter Kevin. We got your sorry butt paid.Owned. But then again, there are some of the Eagle fans who are just mad at everyone like Bird guy, others are not and tend to be easier to have a conversation with. DJax is a highly skilled clown, he was both great and an idiot on Philly, Wash, and will continue to be on his next team I would say. Shame he doesn't get it, or he would be a true #1eh. If you can go back and pull a quote from me saying he's a rare # 1 go for it. I guess I can only speak for myself and not others...so perhaps someone else said he was. You can always cherry pick crazy quotes from "some" Redskins fans and then turn around and call the whole fan base "delusional." That's usually what happens. Somebody above made the point that we "still lost the game" and DJax was why. FIrst of all, let's just be clear...a lot of teams lose games and you don't conclude that everyone on the team is a bum. Eagles are 5-7, same as the Redskins, with higher expectations. Using this logic, we should conclude that everyone on the Eagles team is a bust? I don't think so...that's just way too simplistic.Go back and read the DJax thread from when you got him and all the Skins fans saying how rare it is to get a #1 like him.
He doesn't care that he gave away a shot at a winning drive and gift wrapped the winning TD to the other team, he scored after that so he's good. He's out for him, hasn't improved the Skins W/L at all. In fact they are better this year with him out than when he was playing last year. Way bigger ego than how good he actually is.
Besides, DJax didn't cost the Redskins that game...crappy offense the ENTIRE game cost them that game. They had 9 points through 3.5 quarters and that wasn't because DJAx was dropping the ball. DC press has pointed out that DJAx was open earlier in the game and Cousins didn't hit him, either because he was under too much pressure or just didn't pull the trigger. To ignore the first 3.5 quarters then say "DJAX lost you the game" that's just something you say to feed into the Philadelphia fan narrative which is: "We are better off that he's not with us." Did he make a mistake that hurt the team? Yes. Should he alone be pointed to as the cause of the loss. No way.
None of this is to say that I'm crazy about Jackson. As I say, if I could find someone who could stretch the field for less $, and stay healthy, I'd be happy if they got rid of him for someone else. IN the meantime, there is no denying that he brings something unique to the REdkins at this point and time.
Bottom line: you don't have to bury a guy in "black and white" fashion to keep from being "delusional." You can be just as "delusional" burying a guy outright as saying he's a stud outright. The truth here, just in my opinion, is in the middle. But you guys watched him for a lot of years so I respect what you have to say about him. Though...to be fair, when he was on your team, I heard Eagles fans singing his praises as well...it just seems kind of "convenient" now that you all "never liked him" somehow...
Any thoughts on Chip's comments about Shady? Actually didn't expect him to come out like that and straight up apologize and say Shady is totally right. Wonder if it was a calculated move to take away some of that anger/extra motivation from him this week. Soften him up a little.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Whatever homes...I've about had it with your "glass half full" attitude LOL
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There's glass half full, glass half empty, and then this "grab the glass and throw it against the wall"
None_More_Black
Footballguy
I think that and his nonsensical "we only got rid of Shady because of Bradford's cap hit" is an attempt to take some of the fire out of shady this week but I'm not sure it is going to work. Might as well try I guess.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Ray is the least bombastic and classiest reporter/analyst we have. And I've never heard him curse or get exasperated like he has this season.Insein said:
Insein
Footballguy
Pretty much. Josh Innes had him on and did a cut of his tirade about Chip with unnecessary bleep a few weeks back. It sounded hilarious.
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Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Mighty Mice
Footballguy
Here’s the injury report for the Eagles’ game against the Bills on Sunday at the Linc:
PHILADELPHIA
PROBABLE
RB Kenjon Barner (ankle), QB Sam Bradford (left shoulder), TE Zach Ertz (hip), T Lane Johnson (shoulder), DT Bennie Logan (knee), RB Ryan Mathews (concussion, groin), CB Eric Rowe (ankle), DE Cedric Thornton (ankle), S Walter Thurmond (elbow, shoulder)
Well, not much to see here folks. And for the Eagles, that's a good thing. For the first time this season, no one is listed any worse than probable, meaning everyone on the 53-man roster will likely be healthy enough to play.
PHILADELPHIA
PROBABLE
RB Kenjon Barner (ankle), QB Sam Bradford (left shoulder), TE Zach Ertz (hip), T Lane Johnson (shoulder), DT Bennie Logan (knee), RB Ryan Mathews (concussion, groin), CB Eric Rowe (ankle), DE Cedric Thornton (ankle), S Walter Thurmond (elbow, shoulder)
Well, not much to see here folks. And for the Eagles, that's a good thing. For the first time this season, no one is listed any worse than probable, meaning everyone on the 53-man roster will likely be healthy enough to play.
Mighty Mice
Footballguy
Saw an article on ESPN IIRC this week talking about how Murray isn't a bad scheme fit. Broke down his success running from the shotgun and to the outside in DAL. Author basically said he's toast from the ~470 touches he had in 2014...not a scheme issue at all.
Not sure I by it, but had lots of data to try and back it up.
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Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
unckeyherb
Footballguy
For those that are interested, shady is going to be on 97.5 with Mikey Miss at 4:45 this afternoon
Mighty Mice
Footballguy
Insein
Footballguy
need2know
Footballguy
Insein
Footballguy
ShaHBucks
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I didn't listen to the end, but Westbrook kind of derailed the whole thing. He and Mike each asked a question about Chip to start, then Westbrook moves on to a question about the upcoming game. Mike tries to get to back to the Chip stuff, and Shady is not saying much, but then Westbrook tries to go back to the upcoming game again.
Then Mike kind of gets Shady going a little bit, bringing up quotes from the past about Chip not understanding people of a certain culture and the fact that Shady said that Rex doesn't care what kind of car the players drive. He's winding Shady up a bit, trying to get him to compare the two coaches and really specify the problems with Chip. But Westbrook keeps talking over Shady and giving standard PR type answers for him, like "sometimes two people just don't see eye to eye" and "players like players' coaches".
I guess that Westbrook was trying to save Shady, out of players' loyalty or something, and I don't really care about all the mudslinging, but it just seemed like Westbrook was not going to let Mike create "good radio".
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