*Official 2015 Philadelphia Eagles* - Winning when it doesnt count (1 Viewer)

[Bigboy10182000]

@ByDavidMurphy: Sam Bradford's best attribute might be that he is not Jake Locker.

 

[flysack]

Foles stinks. I don't like Bradford much but if he meets the second round conditions he's an upgrade from Foles who is back peddling to St. Louis as we speak.

It was fairly obvious that Chip didn't like him.....but I would have thought Foles' value would have been a bit higher around the league.

The Bills would've given more for Foles. Why couldn't they have ripped off Chip twice?

Twice?

Oh ok. I'm stretching the McCoy trade as a ripoff. It was fairly fair and only time will tell who comes out on top.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

:X

 

[brainee]

Going to look how a big Philadelphia Eagles board is reacting, and the whole thing has crashed

 

[Ash]

I've learned a lesson today. I'm not going to laugh at the Browns or the Raiders anymore.

 

[GoBirds]

So how much cap room do we have left?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Holy flerkin schnitt! just saw the news.

 

[Billy Bats]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

 

[Soulfly3]

@RapSheet 15s

15 seconds ago
I wouldn’t. RT @CowboysNation: I think we can end the Mariota to Philly talk.

 

[Insein]

Foles stinks. I don't like Bradford much but if he meets the second round conditions he's an upgrade from Foles who is back peddling to St. Louis as we speak.

You're on crack. Foles has accomplished more in 3 years than Bradford has his whole career.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Admittedly I haven't seen much of Bradford but I always thought that when a team picks a QB early they have to surround him with weapons. Good thing we got rid of all of ours.

 

[Insein]

An always injured underperforming QB with a horrible contract ... shouldn't he have been worth a single mid-round draft pick at best?

And certainly not a 2nd round pick AND A BETTER ####### QB!

 

[flapgreen]

Wtf

 

[Billy Bats]

An always injured underperforming QB with a horrible contract ... shouldn't he have been worth a single mid-round draft pick at best?

And certainly not a 2nd round pick AND A BETTER ####### QB!

But if the Titans reallllly like him over a rookie.....

 

[Hang 10]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

If that was true why didn't of any of those teams trade for Sam?

 

[Bob Magaw]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

But in this scenario, the team acquiriing Bradford keeps their first round pick, so that doesn't help get Mariota.

 

[Thunderlips]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

The problem though is the money. Bradford's salary is going to be a sticking point in regards to moving up. Realistically...you're (probably at the least) looking at:

2015 1,2

2015 1 (2 to St. Louis )

Bradford

another couple of mid level picks over the next two/three years.

 

[Casting Couch]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

NFL executives..... really ?

 

[Amused to Death]

Alright let's try to think happy thoughts. The Eagles still have a ton of cap space. Could they re-work Bradford's contract to something more trade-friendly, eating some of the cap in the process.

Reports are some teams at the top of the draft like Bradford. Its possible the TB trade rumors were real. Maybe a trade of Bradford with a better contact and a package of picks / players gets us #1 and Evans as previously leaked. Could it be possible TB is scared off from Winston's off-field stuff and don't want to use the 1 for Mariota, a QB that wouldn't play for a year or two.

Let's hope.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@EliotShorrParks: So all Chip has to talk about at the owner meetings is Roseman, Gamble, McCoy, Maclin, Foles, Bradford, Alonso and racism.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

If that was true why didn't of any of those teams trade for Sam?

Because they had nothing to offer as far as QB goes to the Rams.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@MattLombardo975: Bradford's repetitive accuracy and sound decision making (when healthy) should tell us all we need to know about what a "Chip Kelly QB" is.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Wait, we're still doing the Mariota thing?

 

[Bushead]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

The problem though is the money. Bradford's salary is going to be a sticking point in regards to moving up. Realistically...you're (probably at the least) looking at:

2015 1,2

2015 1 (2 to St. Louis )

Bradford

another couple of mid level picks over the next two/three years.

Would Eagles get the conditional 3rd pick back from Rams for Bradford playing less than 50% of games for Philly if they trade him?

 

[Hang 10]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

If that was true why didn't of any of those teams trade for Sam?

Because they had nothing to offer as far as QB goes to the Rams.

They have a top 10 pick.

 

[bushdocda]

Does personnel control mean he really has ALL the say in trades such as this one? I mean, he at least bounced this off the FedEx guy or someone right?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@SI_PeterKing: Just got told, Chip came hard after Bradford. Thats why this happened. So theres that.

 

[Thunderlips]

Wait, we're still doing the Mariota thing?

I have to think so. Bringing Bradford in with the sudden lack of skill players doesn't help the team. I imagine most had Foles (in some capacity) moving in the trade to move up. As it stands, if a team likes Bradford...I don't see why they wouldn't take him and whatever picks they're giving. The second to St. Louis obviously hurts......but maybe there was a team that valued Bradford a lot more than Foles.....to the point that the second will be negligible.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

If that was true why didn't of any of those teams trade for Sam?

Because they had nothing to offer as far as QB goes to the Rams.

They have a top 10 pick.

And what QB would the Rams get. Clearly they would prefer Foles.

 

[Hang 10]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

If that was true why didn't of any of those teams trade for Sam?

Because they had nothing to offer as far as QB goes to the Rams.

They have a top 10 pick.

And what QB would the Rams get. Clearly they would prefer Foles.

Case Keenum? Marcus mariota?

You don't think a top 10 pick is enough for Bradford by itself?

 

[Thunderlips]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

If that was true why didn't of any of those teams trade for Sam?

Because they had nothing to offer as far as QB goes to the Rams.

They have a top 10 pick.

And what QB would the Rams get. Clearly they would prefer Foles.

Case Keenum? Marcus mariota?

You don't think a top 10 pick is enough for Bradford by itself?

Do the Rams feel they are close to competing?....If they did with Bradford....it wouldn't make much sense to move him for a pick and be without a QB.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@Jeff_McLane: The Browns were one. RT @SI_PeterKing: There were other teams, multiple, involved in the chase for Bradford.

Shumer getting back at his old team

 

[flapgreen]

Chip is off his meds. How long until owner steps in? He's trying to get fired on purpose.

 

[Billy Bats]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

NFL executives..... really ?

For real! They're the guys that are usually in charge. HTH.

 

[Han Solo]

Lol...nobody else is trading for Sam...what do you think a fan base would do if their team planned to trade for Sam flipping Bradford... I'll tell you what they would do. They would flock to a message board and post that the reason they traded for Sam was just because other teams really want him more so wait and see what we get for him...lol...chip Kelly...chooo chooo...

 

[Billy Bats]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

If that was true why didn't of any of those teams trade for Sam?

Because they had nothing to offer as far as QB goes to the Rams.

They have a top 10 pick.

And the Rams dont like Winston or Mariota.

 

[Hang 10]

Lol...nobody else is trading for Sam...what do you think a fan base would do if their team planned to trade for Sam flipping Bradford... I'll tell you what they would do. They would flock to a message board and post that the reason they traded for Sam was just because other teams really want him more so wait and see what we get for him...lol...chip Kelly...chooo chooo...

 

[Thunderlips]

Lol...nobody else is trading for Sam...what do you think a fan base would do if their team planned to trade for Sam flipping Bradford... I'll tell you what they would do. They would flock to a message board and post that the reason they traded for Sam was just because other teams really want him more so wait and see what we get for him...lol...chip Kelly...chooo chooo...

LOL!

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

If that was true why didn't of any of those teams trade for Sam?

Because they had nothing to offer as far as QB goes to the Rams.

They have a top 10 pick.

And what QB would the Rams get. Clearly they would prefer Foles.

Case Keenum? Marcus mariota?

You don't think a top 10 pick is enough for Bradford by itself?

You are missing the point. THEY wanted Foles over any of the QBs in the draft and didnt have to give up their first and got a 2nd back. Its a huge win for the Rams.

 

[Amused to Death]

Lol...nobody else is trading for Sam...what do you think a fan base would do if their team planned to trade for Sam flipping Bradford... I'll tell you what they would do. They would flock to a message board and post that the reason they traded for Sam was just because other teams really want him more so wait and see what we get for him...lol...chip Kelly...chooo chooo...

Hey! Slap us in the face with reality in other threads. Let us have this one to cling to a shred of hope! In Chip we trust or get out!

 

[Dr. Octopus]

@Jeff_McLane: The Browns were one. RT @SI_PeterKing: There were other teams, multiple, involved in the chase for Bradford.

Shumer getting back at his old team

He showed them.

 

[Han Solo]

Lol...nobody else is trading for Sam...what do you think a fan base would do if their team planned to trade for Sam flipping Bradford... I'll tell you what they would do. They would flock to a message board and post that the reason they traded for Sam was just because other teams really want him more so wait and see what we get for him...lol...chip Kelly...chooo chooo...

Hey! Slap us in the face with reality in other threads. Let us have this one to cling to a shred of hope! In Chip we trust or get out!

I hear you. I'm done. Hope it works out for you.

 

[Hang 10]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

If that was true why didn't of any of those teams trade for Sam?

Because they had nothing to offer as far as QB goes to the Rams.

They have a top 10 pick.

And the Rams dont like Winston or Mariota.

They like Foles better than both those guys? Says who? Is Kelly the only guy who likes mariota?

It doesn't matter anyways because no team would have traded a 1st for Bradford. We can speculate ifs all day long.

 

[Amused to Death]

Lol...nobody else is trading for Sam...what do you think a fan base would do if their team planned to trade for Sam flipping Bradford... I'll tell you what they would do. They would flock to a message board and post that the reason they traded for Sam was just because other teams really want him more so wait and see what we get for him...lol...chip Kelly...chooo chooo...

Hey! Slap us in the face with reality in other threads. Let us have this one to cling to a shred of hope! In Chip we trust or get out!

I hear you. I'm done. Hope it works out for you.

LOL, Here's hoping there's another piece to this madness that lands us Mariota.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

If that was true why didn't of any of those teams trade for Sam?

Because they had nothing to offer as far as QB goes to the Rams.

They have a top 10 pick.

And the Rams dont like Winston or Mariota.

They like Foles better than both those guys? Says who? Is Kelly the only guy who likes mariota?

It doesn't matter anyways because no team would have traded a 1st for Bradford. We can speculate ifs all day long.

Says the team that just traded for him?

 

[Hang 10]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

If that was true why didn't of any of those teams trade for Sam?

Because they had nothing to offer as far as QB goes to the Rams.

They have a top 10 pick.

And the Rams dont like Winston or Mariota.

They like Foles better than both those guys? Says who? Is Kelly the only guy who likes mariota?It doesn't matter anyways because no team would have traded a 1st for Bradford. We can speculate ifs all day long.

Says the team that just traded for him?

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess it wasn't really an either or option for the rams.

 

[babydemon90]

Seems bad, but who knows. Maybe Chip saw enough of Bradford tape + Foles to be convinced he'd much rather have Bradford as his QB. Being honest - Foles wasn't great in 2014. Shoddy O-line, yes, but he wasn't great. I'm going to reserve judgement until the season, when we see the results of Chip's plan. It's all speculation at this point.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Chip Kelly is that guy in your fantasy league that can't win so he drops all his players

 

[Billy Bats]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

If that was true why didn't of any of those teams trade for Sam?

Because they had nothing to offer as far as QB goes to the Rams.

They have a top 10 pick.

And the Rams dont like Winston or Mariota.

It doesn't matter anyways because no team would have traded a 1st for Bradford.

Exactly. So the Rams get a QB they like AND keep the 10th overall. That's good for them, right?

 

[Hang 10]

This is calming me down a litte bit...

"This is really fascinating because there are teams that are sitting at the top of the draft, according to executives that I've talked to, who would believe that they would prefer to have Sam Bradford, who's 27 and coming off basically missing the last year and a half of his career -- that they would rather have then take a chance on, say, somebody like Marcus Mariota or Jamies Winston because they have seen what Bradford can do. One caveat to this is: is Bradford healthy or not coming off of two ACL surgeries? But the belief is: take a shot with Bradford and save your first round draft pick and take somebody else."

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/nfl_team_prefer_sam_bradford_over_marcus_mariota.html

If that was true why didn't of any of those teams trade for Sam?

Because they had nothing to offer as far as QB goes to the Rams.

They have a top 10 pick.

And the Rams dont like Winston or Mariota.

It doesn't matter anyways because no team would have traded a 1st for Bradford.

Exactly. So the Rams get a QB they like AND keep the 10th overall. That's good for them, right?

I never said it wasn't. I just doubted that any team at the top draft really preferred Bradford enough to pursue him.