*Official 2015 Philadelphia Eagles* - Winning when it doesnt count (1 Viewer)

[Bigboy10182000]

@AdamSchefter: Chiefs releasing WR Dwayne Bowe today.

I posted that guys Twitter last night and even called him a troll. He is NAILING every one of these moves

He may know things... But Bowe being released today was knowledge about 4-5 days ago... Schef et al posted this...

Murray to the Eagles wasnt a shocker either...

It was common knowledge that this move will be done right after the announcement of Murray signing with us?FWIW, he said Bowe would be here within a week.

Just that Bowe was being cut today... It was always being done today acc to reports from as far back as 4-5 days ago.

If he signs w Philly then Id say ya... He knows some things.

That damn dude called that Matthews would sign here as well. Said we're keeping all the Murray, Mathews and Sproles

 

[dhockster]

They're actually 5 months apart.

Murray just turned 27 last month. I knew McCoy was 26, which is why I said 1 year, buy Shady will be 27 in July.

All of which only makes my original point stronger.

Murray is old as hell. 400 plus touches last year will reveal as much this year!

Career touches: McCoy: 1,761

Murray: 1,105

While the 400+ touches last season is concerning (+ injury history), McCoy has much more wear and tear

That seems to help your point until you realize that the reason Murray has so many fewer touches is because he has missed 21 games due to injury.

Honestly, I think it's possible that the Eagles sold low on McCoy and bought high on Murray. When you look at their careers as a whole, last year seems more like the outlier for each guy than the expected.

I don't think the Eagles sold low on McCoy. Watching all the games last year, he was much more hesitant, always looking for the big play. This resulted in a lot of 2 and 3 yard losses and 2nd and long situations. I will not be surprised if a career regression started last year. Or if Buffalo has a better blocking scheme for McCoy than Chip did, maybe he has a couple really good years before falling off.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

So if Murrays is breaking down it looks like we covered our ###.

Top 2 RB in rush yards from the gun last year I believe.

I think this is the key. McCoy complained about running out of the shotgun. Fine, you don't like it go to Buffalo. Chip got the guys who fit his system.

Howie must have had to deal with a LOT these past few years.I just watched Private Parts last night and I imagine Howie running around like Pig Vomit trying to stop Chip

Now I have that image of Paul Giamatti.

He was perfect for that part lol

 

[Hang 10]

Murray has 656 less career touches than LeSean McCoy. Interesting.

Carry on.

I guess that's one positive of being injured often. Less mileage!

 

[flapgreen]

They're actually 5 months apart.

Murray just turned 27 last month. I knew McCoy was 26, which is why I said 1 year, buy Shady will be 27 in July.

All of which only makes my original point stronger.

Murray is old as hell. 400 plus touches last year will reveal as much this year!

Career touches: McCoy: 1,761

Murray: 1,105

While the 400+ touches last season is concerning (+ injury history), McCoy has much more wear and tear

That seems to help your point until you realize that the reason Murray has so many fewer touches is because he has missed 21 games due to injury.Honestly, I think it's possible that the Eagles sold low on McCoy and bought high on Murray. When you look at their careers as a whole, last year seems more like the outlier for each guy than the expected.

I don't think the Eagles sold low on McCoy. Watching all the games last year, he was much more hesitant, always looking for the big play. This resulted in a lot of 2 and 3 yard losses and 2nd and long situations. I will not be surprised if a career regression started last year. Or if Buffalo has a better blocking scheme for McCoy than Chip did, maybe he has a couple really good years before falling off.

Most Eagles fans said he was the best back in the league before last year. Now he's due to regress?

 

[B-Deep]

They're actually 5 months apart.

Murray just turned 27 last month. I knew McCoy was 26, which is why I said 1 year, buy Shady will be 27 in July.

All of which only makes my original point stronger.

Murray is old as hell. 400 plus touches last year will reveal as much this year!

Career touches: McCoy: 1,761

Murray: 1,105

While the 400+ touches last season is concerning (+ injury history), McCoy has much more wear and tear

That seems to help your point until you realize that the reason Murray has so many fewer touches is because he has missed 21 games due to injury.Honestly, I think it's possible that the Eagles sold low on McCoy and bought high on Murray. When you look at their careers as a whole, last year seems more like the outlier for each guy than the expected.

I don't think the Eagles sold low on McCoy. Watching all the games last year, he was much more hesitant, always looking for the big play. This resulted in a lot of 2 and 3 yard losses and 2nd and long situations. I will not be surprised if a career regression started last year. Or if Buffalo has a better blocking scheme for McCoy than Chip did, maybe he has a couple really good years before falling off.

Most Eagles fans said he was the best back in the league before last year. Now he's due to regress?

well duh, that's always how it works (and not just for eagles fans)

 

[Billy Bats]

So is Chip planning on using Sproles in the slot a whole lot more now?

And will we see more of Matthews and Murray in the backfield at the same time than we did McCoy/Sproles?

 

[pizzatyme]

Damn the trolls! LOL

 

[Amused to Death]

So is Chip planning on using Sproles in the slot a whole lot more now?

And will we see more of Matthews and Murray in the backfield at the same time than we did McCoy/Sproles?

You know the wish bone offense is due to make a come back.

 

[12punch]

They're actually 5 months apart.

Murray just turned 27 last month. I knew McCoy was 26, which is why I said 1 year, buy Shady will be 27 in July.

All of which only makes my original point stronger.

Murray is old as hell. 400 plus touches last year will reveal as much this year!

can I ask what 400 touches has got to do with anything?

 

[Hang 10]

They're actually 5 months apart.

Murray just turned 27 last month. I knew McCoy was 26, which is why I said 1 year, buy Shady will be 27 in July.

All of which only makes my original point stronger.

Murray is old as hell. 400 plus touches last year will reveal as much this year!

can I ask what 400 touches has got to do with anything?

Most running backs fall of the cliff statically after years with 350+ carries. At the least you expect that their best years are usually behind them.

 

[12punch]

They're actually 5 months apart.

Murray just turned 27 last month. I knew McCoy was 26, which is why I said 1 year, buy Shady will be 27 in July.

All of which only makes my original point stronger.

Murray is old as hell. 400 plus touches last year will reveal as much this year!

can I ask what 400 touches has got to do with anything?

Most running backs fall of the cliff statically after years with 350+ carries. At the least you expect that their best years are usually behind them.

is this fact or urban legend?

should I snopes it?

 

[Hang 10]

They're actually 5 months apart.

Murray just turned 27 last month. I knew McCoy was 26, which is why I said 1 year, buy Shady will be 27 in July.

All of which only makes my original point stronger.

Murray is old as hell. 400 plus touches last year will reveal as much this year!

can I ask what 400 touches has got to do with anything?

Most running backs fall of the cliff statically after years with 350+ carries. At the least you expect that their best years are usually behind them.

is this fact or urban legend?

should I snopes it?

Doesn't everyone know that here? I thought this was a fantasy football website.

http://www.footballdocs.com/running_back_carries.html

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

Anyone have the actual numbers on Murray's contract? I had heard it was backloaded.

 

[GoBirds]

Too bad Gore didn't sign.......what will we do.

 

[12punch]

They're actually 5 months apart.

Murray just turned 27 last month. I knew McCoy was 26, which is why I said 1 year, buy Shady will be 27 in July.

All of which only makes my original point stronger.

Murray is old as hell. 400 plus touches last year will reveal as much this year!

can I ask what 400 touches has got to do with anything?

Most running backs fall of the cliff statically after years with 350+ carries. At the least you expect that their best years are usually behind them.

is this fact or urban legend?

should I snopes it?

Doesn't everyone know that here? I thought this was a fantasy football website.

http://www.footballdocs.com/running_back_carries.html

I can't tell if you're being ironic

 

[Hang 10]

They're actually 5 months apart.

Murray just turned 27 last month. I knew McCoy was 26, which is why I said 1 year, buy Shady will be 27 in July.

All of which only makes my original point stronger.

Murray is old as hell. 400 plus touches last year will reveal as much this year!

can I ask what 400 touches has got to do with anything?

Most running backs fall of the cliff statically after years with 350+ carries. At the least you expect that their best years are usually behind them.

is this fact or urban legend?

should I snopes it?

Doesn't everyone know that here? I thought this was a fantasy football website.

http://www.footballdocs.com/running_back_carries.html

I can't tell if you're being ironic

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Looks like Mariota had a rough pro-day. Forget all the trading he may just fall to us lol

 

[Billy Bats]

Looks like Mariota had a rough pro-day. Forget all the trading he may just fall to us lol

Mariota; 'I sat down with the Buccaneers as well as the Eagles. Today I will be finishing up with the Titans.'

So he sat down with the 1st and 2nd picks and the Eagles.

 

[Billy Bats]

@eagles: .@rmathews24 :This is a running back's dream to play in an offense like this. I really wanted to come here and play for Chip. #FlyEaglesFly

5:37pm - 12 Mar 15

 

[Billy Bats]

@eagles: Ryan Mathews says #Eagles potential signing of DeMarco Murray "didn't deter me at all ... I really bought into Chip's system."

5:31pm - 12 Mar 15

Mathews: Being able to play with a guy like (Murray) would be great ... I wouldn't shy away from it at all.

Mathews says sports science aspect of program was one of the things that intrigued him

 

[dhockster]

They're actually 5 months apart.

Murray just turned 27 last month. I knew McCoy was 26, which is why I said 1 year, buy Shady will be 27 in July.

All of which only makes my original point stronger.

Murray is old as hell. 400 plus touches last year will reveal as much this year!

Career touches: McCoy: 1,761

Murray: 1,105

While the 400+ touches last season is concerning (+ injury history), McCoy has much more wear and tear

That seems to help your point until you realize that the reason Murray has so many fewer touches is because he has missed 21 games due to injury.Honestly, I think it's possible that the Eagles sold low on McCoy and bought high on Murray. When you look at their careers as a whole, last year seems more like the outlier for each guy than the expected.

I don't think the Eagles sold low on McCoy. Watching all the games last year, he was much more hesitant, always looking for the big play. This resulted in a lot of 2 and 3 yard losses and 2nd and long situations. I will not be surprised if a career regression started last year. Or if Buffalo has a better blocking scheme for McCoy than Chip did, maybe he has a couple really good years before falling off.

Most Eagles fans said he was the best back in the league before last year. Now he's due to regress?

What do you expect from a fan? Eagle fans think McCoy is going to regress. Buffalo fans think that they solved their running back problems. Eagle fans think Demarco Murray is awesome. Cowboy fans think he was used too much, is injury prone, and can't outrun my grandmother. All your teams moves are good. All other team moves are bad. This is what fans do in the off-season. It's only when the regular season rolls around and McCoy goes for 2,000 yards and Murray breaks his leg in the opener that maybe fans admit their team didn't do so great in free agency. Or maybe they don't.

 

[flapgreen]

That's a good point.

 

[massraider]

What an entertaining offseason by one team.

 

[Insein]

That's a good point.

Except the bears. They just suck.

 

[Insein]

What an entertaining offseason by one team.

What an entertaining 5 days. Sheesh.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip Kelly presser, two days in a row! "With zone scheme we're looking for one cut, downhill runner."

@MattLombardo975: Chip: DeMarco's style, a physical downhill runner is what made him appealing to us. You better have two of them. #Eagles

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip said you better have 2 RBs when you have a downhill scheme, hence also Ryan Mathews

@MattLombardo975: Chip: Being able to distribute the carries between two guys is really what we're trying to do. #Eagles

@LesBowen: Chip: we had a couple guys wed targeted. Just how it shakes itself out. Got Ryan and DeMarco. Youve got to run the ball in this league.

@EliotShorrParks: Chip says the running style of Murray as a one-cut runner was appealing. #Eagles

@MattLombardo975: Chip: With Ryan Matthews here, we hope DeMarco won't carry the ball 392 times. If we didn't, Murray would carry the ball 692 times. #Eagles

@EliotShorrParks: Chip says he hopes DeMarco doesn't carry the ball over 300 times this season...."If he does, we ran it over 600 times" #Eagles

@TomPelissero: #Eagles czar Chip Kelly makes clear he doesn't envision DeMarco Murray being a workhorse back. Plan is to spread it around.

@EliotShorrParks: Chip says he called DeMarco, not the other way around. #Eagles

@TomPelissero: Chip: "Darren (Sproles) is a Swiss army knife. You can use him in a million different ways." Says he remains an integral part.

@MattLombardo975: Chip: Darren Sproles is still with us. He's a Swiss Army knife. He's a big part of what we do here. #Eagles

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip: Ryan was clued into whole thing. He knew DeMarco was coming. is comfortable about situation.

@AroundTheNFL: Chip Kelly says he doesnt plan to run DeMarco Murray running nearly as much. Will spread it around. Sproles will stay.

@EliotShorrParks: Chip says Murray was offered more money from another team. #Eagles

@howardeskin: Chip Kelly thought Demarco Murray would be out of #eagles price range when free agency started.

@EliotShorrParks: Chip says he expects Polk to be back. #Eagles

@MattLombardo975: Chip: Our plan was, if we're going to lose LeSean, we better get two guys. #Eagles

@TomPelissero: Chip says DeMarco Murray, Frank Gore, Ryan Mathews were #Eagles' top 3 targets in free agency and they wanted to land two of them.

@MattLombardo975: Kelly says that Chris Polk is also part of the team's plans. Can't have enough good football players. #Eagles

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip said he still plans to retain RFA running back Chris Polk, said he needs RBs. Could just have 3 TEs this year.

@EliotShorrParks: Chip says he is comfortable where the team is financially. #Eagles

@MattLombardo975: Chip: We're not done. We still have the draft and a few more opportunities. Howie Roseman and those guys do a great job w/the cap. #Eagles

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip credits RB coach Duce Staley, calls him one of the best RB coaches out there, said he was big part of this.

@howardeskin: Chip Kelly "once we knew Frank Gore was going to #colts I called Demarco Murray to come to #eagles. " http://t.co/S6VeiVrwib

@LesBowen: Chip notes strong WR draft

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip said not sure if he'll make a WR move in free agency, not sure if they can, but will look hard at this year's WR draft class.

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip said not sure if he'll make a WR move in free agency, not sure if they can, but will look hard at this year's WR draft class.

@MattLombardo975: Chip Kelly says not to read into #Eagles meeting Marcus Mariota today. QB coach Ryan Day meets with every quarterback prospect.

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip repeats he is "philosophically opposed" to moving up in the draft, wants more picks, not fewer. #NoMariota

@RapSheet: In the last week, I think everybody on this roster was talked about being on the trade block. Chip Kelly.

@MattLombardo975: Chip: Philosophically we are against trading up for any player.We want to keep our picks. We want to build through the draft not free agency

@JohnMiddlekauff: Chip Kelly just said everyone was on the block at one point & time over the last week

@EliotShorrParks: "If we are willing to trade LeSean McCoy and Nick Foles, then nobody is untouchable." #Eagles

@ZBerm: Chip said Eagles didn't think Murray would be in their price range. They dealt McCoy, got Alonso and cap space. Pick player who filled it

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip said he went into FA with a dollar figure earmarked for each positio. Said # is flexible but actions clearly show he values RB over WR.

@MattLombardo975: Murray: Dallas will always have a special place in my heart. I'll miss the bonds I had. I'm excited to be here and w/this organization.

@GeoffMosherCSN: DeMarco: "I felt this was a great opportunity for us to win a Super Bowl at the end of the day."

@MattLombardo975: Murray: Sam Bradford helped a lot. He's like a brother to me. We played a lot of great games at OU. He texted me right after he got here.

@EaglesInsider: Murray on when this became a possibility: As soon as I got the phone call from Chip yesterday

@MattLombardo975: Murray: I was confident this kind of contract was out there. It wasn't the biggest contract but the organization caught my eye. #Eagles

@MattLombardo975: Murray: There were 2-3 better offers better than the #Eagles out there. This was about winning a Super Bowl.

@EliotShorrParks: DeMarco Murray he likes how Lurie lets Chip do his thing.......#shots #jerry

@LesBowen: Murray: on jersey burning: I dont take it personally

@GeoffMosherCSN: Murray on Cowboys fans ripping him: "I don't take it personal.I'm sure their feelings are hurt. I apologize for that. I'm ready to move on."

 

[JaxBill]

Looks like Mariota had a rough pro-day. Forget all the trading he may just fall to us lol

Mariota; 'I sat down with the Buccaneers as well as the Eagles. Today I will be finishing up with the Titans.'

So he sat down with the 1st and 2nd picks and the Eagles.

The Negadelphian ‏@TheNegadelphian 24m24 minutes ago

"We interview everybody at the combine.... that's kinda why we go to the combine" Chip Kelly burns @howardeskin again. Throw in the towel.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Hearing him today and seeing what he's been doing you can tell just how hamstrung he was these past couple years.

 

[massraider]

What an entertaining offseason by one team.

What an entertaining 5 days. Sheesh.

The move I really felt for sure is a mistake is letting Maclin go. If there are durability things we don't know about that the Eagles have concerns about, fine.

But if it's just dollars, then I disagree with it. That contract is gonna look like a bargain within a year. The cap is going up 20 mill the next two years, and Maclin will be making WR2 numbers.

 

[JaxBill]

What an entertaining offseason by one team.

What an entertaining 5 days. Sheesh.

The move I really felt for sure is a mistake is letting Maclin go. If there are durability things we don't know about that the Eagles have concerns about, fine.

But if it's just dollars, then I disagree with it. That contract is gonna look like a bargain within a year. The cap is going up 20 mill the next two years, and Maclin will be making WR2 numbers.

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip said he went into FA with a dollar figure earmarked for each positio. Said # is flexible but actions clearly show he values RB over WR.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Uptempo, late in games, with a tired D and a fresh Murray, Mathews or Sproles. I'm ok with this.

 

[Hang 10]

What an entertaining offseason by one team.

What an entertaining 5 days. Sheesh.

The move I really felt for sure is a mistake is letting Maclin go. If there are durability things we don't know about that the Eagles have concerns about, fine. But if it's just dollars, then I disagree with it. That contract is gonna look like a bargain within a year. The cap is going up 20 mill the next two years, and Maclin will be making WR2 numbers.

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip said he went into FA with a dollar figure earmarked for each positio. Said # is flexible but actions clearly show he values RB over WR.

This obviously bull ####. Does anyone think the plan going into free agency was to dump McCoy and actually increase the money at the RB position? What if Gore had actually signed?

 

[12punch]

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip said he went into FA with a dollar figure earmarked for each positio. Said # is flexible but actions clearly show he values RB over WR.

yeah, I remember a week ago the narrative was he didn't put a premium on rb

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

playing devil's advocate here and I am genuinely curious about this... denver use to crank out 1000 yard rushers picking up guys off the street and putting them behind the phat o-line. after TDavis there were I think three guys who hit the lottery there to prove they couldn't run to save their life elsewhere. Murray, coming off an awesome season, had an o-line that is as close to that denver o-line of the late 90s into the millenial as i've seen since. does he really fit the bill of a stud rb potentially playing behind this o-line that looked not so good? is this because mccoy wore out his welcome last year more so than murray's prospects that you guys like this over keeping mccoy?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

What an entertaining offseason by one team.

What an entertaining 5 days. Sheesh.

The move I really felt for sure is a mistake is letting Maclin go. If there are durability things we don't know about that the Eagles have concerns about, fine. But if it's just dollars, then I disagree with it. That contract is gonna look like a bargain within a year. The cap is going up 20 mill the next two years, and Maclin will be making WR2 numbers.

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip said he went into FA with a dollar figure earmarked for each positio. Said # is flexible but actions clearly show he values RB over WR.

This obviously bull ####. Does anyone think the plan going into free agency was to dump McCoy and actually increase the money at the RB position? What if Gore had actually signed?

@TomPelissero: Chip says DeMarco Murray, Frank Gore, Ryan Mathews were #Eagles' top 3 targets in free agency and they wanted to land two of them.@howardeskin: Chip Kelly "once we knew Frank Gore was going to #colts I called Demarco Murray to come to #eagles. " http://t.co/S6VeiVrwib

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip said he went into FA with a dollar figure earmarked for each positio. Said # is flexible but actions clearly show he values RB over WR.

yeah, I remember a week ago the narrative was he didn't put a premium on rb

Who's narrative? Chips?

 

[massraider]

CHip also said he hopes he can sign DeMarco to a 3rd contract. C'mon now.

 

[Hang 10]

What an entertaining offseason by one team.

What an entertaining 5 days. Sheesh.

The move I really felt for sure is a mistake is letting Maclin go. If there are durability things we don't know about that the Eagles have concerns about, fine. But if it's just dollars, then I disagree with it. That contract is gonna look like a bargain within a year. The cap is going up 20 mill the next two years, and Maclin will be making WR2 numbers.

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip said he went into FA with a dollar figure earmarked for each positio. Said # is flexible but actions clearly show he values RB over WR.

This obviously bull ####. Does anyone think the plan going into free agency was to dump McCoy and actually increase the money at the RB position? What if Gore had actually signed?

@TomPelissero: Chip says DeMarco Murray, Frank Gore, Ryan Mathews were #Eagles' top 3 targets in free agency and they wanted to land two of them.

Whatever you say chipper. I wonder how many first rounders he's been offered for Ryan Matthews so far.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

What an entertaining offseason by one team.

What an entertaining 5 days. Sheesh.

The move I really felt for sure is a mistake is letting Maclin go. If there are durability things we don't know about that the Eagles have concerns about, fine. But if it's just dollars, then I disagree with it. That contract is gonna look like a bargain within a year. The cap is going up 20 mill the next two years, and Maclin will be making WR2 numbers.

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip said he went into FA with a dollar figure earmarked for each positio. Said # is flexible but actions clearly show he values RB over WR.

This obviously bull ####. Does anyone think the plan going into free agency was to dump McCoy and actually increase the money at the RB position? What if Gore had actually signed?

@TomPelissero: Chip says DeMarco Murray, Frank Gore, Ryan Mathews were #Eagles' top 3 targets in free agency and they wanted to land two of them.

Whatever you say chipper. I wonder how many first rounders he's been offered for Ryan Matthews so far.

you seem hurt. Why?

 

[Hang 10]

What an entertaining offseason by one team.

What an entertaining 5 days. Sheesh.

The move I really felt for sure is a mistake is letting Maclin go. If there are durability things we don't know about that the Eagles have concerns about, fine. But if it's just dollars, then I disagree with it. That contract is gonna look like a bargain within a year. The cap is going up 20 mill the next two years, and Maclin will be making WR2 numbers.

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip said he went into FA with a dollar figure earmarked for each positio. Said # is flexible but actions clearly show he values RB over WR.

This obviously bull ####. Does anyone think the plan going into free agency was to dump McCoy and actually increase the money at the RB position? What if Gore had actually signed?

@TomPelissero: Chip says DeMarco Murray, Frank Gore, Ryan Mathews were #Eagles' top 3 targets in free agency and they wanted to land two of them.

Whatever you say chipper. I wonder how many first rounders he's been offered for Ryan Matthews so far.

you seem hurt. Why?

Not at all. I think watching Chip the GM work is hilarious.

 

[Amused to Death]

What an entertaining offseason by one team.

What an entertaining 5 days. Sheesh.

The move I really felt for sure is a mistake is letting Maclin go. If there are durability things we don't know about that the Eagles have concerns about, fine. But if it's just dollars, then I disagree with it. That contract is gonna look like a bargain within a year. The cap is going up 20 mill the next two years, and Maclin will be making WR2 numbers.

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip said he went into FA with a dollar figure earmarked for each positio. Said # is flexible but actions clearly show he values RB over WR.

This obviously bull ####. Does anyone think the plan going into free agency was to dump McCoy and actually increase the money at the RB position? What if Gore had actually signed?

@TomPelissero: Chip says DeMarco Murray, Frank Gore, Ryan Mathews were #Eagles' top 3 targets in free agency and they wanted to land two of them.

Whatever you say chipper. I wonder how many first rounders he's been offered for Ryan Matthews so far.

you seem hurt. Why?

Redskin fan

 

[Bigboy10182000]

What an entertaining offseason by one team.

What an entertaining 5 days. Sheesh.

The move I really felt for sure is a mistake is letting Maclin go. If there are durability things we don't know about that the Eagles have concerns about, fine. But if it's just dollars, then I disagree with it. That contract is gonna look like a bargain within a year. The cap is going up 20 mill the next two years, and Maclin will be making WR2 numbers.

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip said he went into FA with a dollar figure earmarked for each positio. Said # is flexible but actions clearly show he values RB over WR.

This obviously bull ####. Does anyone think the plan going into free agency was to dump McCoy and actually increase the money at the RB position? What if Gore had actually signed?

@TomPelissero: Chip says DeMarco Murray, Frank Gore, Ryan Mathews were #Eagles' top 3 targets in free agency and they wanted to land two of them.

Whatever you say chipper. I wonder how many first rounders he's been offered for Ryan Matthews so far.

you seem hurt. Why?

Not at all. I think watching Chip the GM work is hilarious.

That strange. Id say a lot of people find it entertaining. Maybe you should relax and have a drink. Sounds like you need one.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

getting chippy in here.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

What an entertaining offseason by one team.

What an entertaining 5 days. Sheesh.

The move I really felt for sure is a mistake is letting Maclin go. If there are durability things we don't know about that the Eagles have concerns about, fine. But if it's just dollars, then I disagree with it. That contract is gonna look like a bargain within a year. The cap is going up 20 mill the next two years, and Maclin will be making WR2 numbers.

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip said he went into FA with a dollar figure earmarked for each positio. Said # is flexible but actions clearly show he values RB over WR.

This obviously bull ####. Does anyone think the plan going into free agency was to dump McCoy and actually increase the money at the RB position? What if Gore had actually signed?

@TomPelissero: Chip says DeMarco Murray, Frank Gore, Ryan Mathews were #Eagles' top 3 targets in free agency and they wanted to land two of them.

Whatever you say chipper. I wonder how many first rounders he's been offered for Ryan Matthews so far.

you seem hurt. Why?

Redskin fan

I swear to God I was about to ask that

 

[Hang 10]

What an entertaining offseason by one team.

What an entertaining 5 days. Sheesh.

The move I really felt for sure is a mistake is letting Maclin go. If there are durability things we don't know about that the Eagles have concerns about, fine. But if it's just dollars, then I disagree with it. That contract is gonna look like a bargain within a year. The cap is going up 20 mill the next two years, and Maclin will be making WR2 numbers.

@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip said he went into FA with a dollar figure earmarked for each positio. Said # is flexible but actions clearly show he values RB over WR.

This obviously bull ####. Does anyone think the plan going into free agency was to dump McCoy and actually increase the money at the RB position? What if Gore had actually signed?

@TomPelissero: Chip says DeMarco Murray, Frank Gore, Ryan Mathews were #Eagles' top 3 targets in free agency and they wanted to land two of them.

Whatever you say chipper. I wonder how many first rounders he's been offered for Ryan Matthews so far.

you seem hurt. Why?

Not at all. I think watching Chip the GM work is hilarious.

That strange. Id say a lot of people find it entertaining. Maybe you should relax and have a drink. Sounds like you need one.

Comedy is entertaining. You're not making any sense, guy.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Quick, name that last RB to have a great year following a season with 400+ touches. Go!

You counting postseason carries?

Regular season. And to add, Murray has exactly 450 touches last season.

Ladainian Tomlinson in 2002 had 451 touches. The next season he rushed for 1645 yards-13 TDs and had 100 receptions.

Thanks!

If you need something more recent:

Chris Johnson in 2009 had 408 touches. The next season he rushed for 1364 yards-11 touchdowns and had 44 receptions. He was the last RB in the NFL to hit 400 touches. By the way, after he had 408 touches he eclipsed 1000 yards in 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013 and only missed 1 game in those years. The narrative you're trying to write doesn't exist. There are multiple RBs who have had good seasons after 400+ touches. Age isn't a factor either.

 

[Hang 10]

Quick, name that last RB to have a great year following a season with 400+ touches. Go!

You counting postseason carries?

Regular season. And to add, Murray has exactly 450 touches last season.

Ladainian Tomlinson in 2002 had 451 touches. The next season he rushed for 1645 yards-13 TDs and had 100 receptions.

Thanks!

If you need something more recent:

Chris Johnson in 2009 had 408 touches. The next season he rushed for 1364 yards-11 touchdowns and had 44 receptions. He was the last RB in the NFL to hit 400 touches. By the way, after he had 408 touches he eclipsed 1000 yards in 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013 and only missed 1 game in those years. The narrative you're trying to write doesn't exist. There are multiple RBs who have had good seasons after 400+ touches. Age isn't a factor either.

Oh, it doesn't exist huh? Didn't he rush for about 700 yards less in 2010?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

playing devil's advocate here and I am genuinely curious about this... denver use to crank out 1000 yard rushers picking up guys off the street and putting them behind the phat o-line. after TDavis there were I think three guys who hit the lottery there to prove they couldn't run to save their life elsewhere. Murray, coming off an awesome season, had an o-line that is as close to that denver o-line of the late 90s into the millenial as i've seen since. does he really fit the bill of a stud rb potentially playing behind this o-line that looked not so good? is this because mccoy wore out his welcome last year more so than murray's prospects that you guys like this over keeping mccoy?

Yes I think that the latter point is somewhat correct. It seemed pretty clear that chip did not want McCoy.

 

[Billy Bats]

I'm mad at Chip for ruining this thread.