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*Official 2015 Philadelphia Eagles* - Winning when it doesnt count (4 Viewers)
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Long Ball Larry
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Show some respect. The guy is the general manager of Philadelphia Sports Nation.Late225 said:
fred_1_15301
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I never liked McCoy and I'm a Pitt graduate school alumni. Although this source doesn't seem credible, it wouldn't shock me in the least bit if it were true. He does seem like a complete jerk.
Bigboy10182000
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I thought I posted it here but the one game I worked I remember hearing complain about saying how much he "hates football" and just whining in general on the sidelines
The mobile sucks for searching so I can't fine it right now.
The mobile sucks for searching so I can't fine it right now.
Took me way too long, but I found it:
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/702775-official-2014-philadelphia-eagles-thread/page-88
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JetMaxx, on 15 Dec 2014 - 08:51 AM, said:
Last night in the 4th quarter after the last pick by SanchezBigboy10182000, on 15 Dec 2014 - 08:49 AM, said:
When was this?Bigboy10182000, on 15 Dec 2014 - 08:47 AM, said:
He comes off of the field last night yelling "I F'ing hate football man!" I wanted to punch him.dhockster, on 15 Dec 2014 - 08:39 AM, said:
He's gone.Bigboy10182000, on 15 Dec 2014 - 08:26 AM, said:
McCoy is under contract for 3 more years. His cap number is $12M next year. If cut he costs about $4.5M in dead money so we would realize a $7.5M cap savings if we cut him.
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To be fair, sometimes I hated football after Sanchez threw a pick during that 3 game skid.Took me way too long, but I found it:
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/702775-official-2014-philadelphia-eagles-thread/page-88
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JetMaxx, on 15 Dec 2014 - 08:51 AM, said:
Last night in the 4th quarter after the last pick by SanchezBigboy10182000, on 15 Dec 2014 - 08:49 AM, said:
When was this?Bigboy10182000, on 15 Dec 2014 - 08:47 AM, said:
He comes off of the field last night yelling "I F'ing hate football man!" I wanted to punch him.dhockster, on 15 Dec 2014 - 08:39 AM, said:
He's gone.Bigboy10182000, on 15 Dec 2014 - 08:26 AM, said:
McCoy is under contract for 3 more years. His cap number is $12M next year. If cut he costs about $4.5M in dead money so we would realize a $7.5M cap savings if we cut him.
The source isn't credible but I wouldn't say you could completely dismiss this either. That twitter stuff with his baby mama and the thing where he allegedly left a girl stranded by the side of the highway because she wouldn't participate in whatever he had happening on some party bus he'd organised don't make him seem like the greatest guy in the world.
Snotbubbles
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I know, I keep coming back to check and no one has posted anything, and no new eagles news has come out.
I mean the draft is 2 weeks away today, just get here already!
Seems like a lot of ppl have us taking Safety round 1 and that he will still be there. Keep hearing he doesn't fit our scheme, but then some sites and mocks say he's a perfect fit so I'm unsure if I'd be incredibly happy landing the top S or not.
Insein
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Any secondary pick I'd be happy with. WR, Secondary and Oline should be the picks unless someone ridiculous is sitting there at your pick at a position of non need.
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I'm really starting to think we aren't getting a WR at 20. The clear top 3 guys will for sure be gone. Strong is falling down lists. It would have to be Perriman or Beckham... both of which would be big risks, but could have big payoffs. Anyone excited/not excited about Perriman?
Mighty Mice
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I would be behind a Perriman pick. Deep speed and an NFL pedigree. Be nice to have a 'field stretcher' a la DJax (and to a lesser degree Maclin). Of course, I'm biased as a UCF alum and employee here in Orlando. Seen lots of Perriman and think he could excel in the system.
Ultimately I don't see WR as a huge need for Kelly, though. He doesn't seem to place a big priority on the position, even going back to Oregon, and IMO it would be odd to see him use #20 there. Be much happier with DB or OLine...but agree that WR is a need and if it's Perryman I would like the selection.
Bleacher report article discussing Perriman to the Eagles:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2432414-philadelphia-eagles-draft-countdown-making-the-case-for-breshad-perriman
Ultimately I don't see WR as a huge need for Kelly, though. He doesn't seem to place a big priority on the position, even going back to Oregon, and IMO it would be odd to see him use #20 there. Be much happier with DB or OLine...but agree that WR is a need and if it's Perryman I would like the selection.
Bleacher report article discussing Perriman to the Eagles:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2432414-philadelphia-eagles-draft-countdown-making-the-case-for-breshad-perriman
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I'm not a scout so my information is second hand, but the knock on Collins is that he is more of an in the box safety and has coverage issues. Doesn't sound like the type of safety that our system requires. We'd be looking more at a CB who is a good tackler that we could convert to safety. Otherwise, I'd have to think the Eagles would have just signed Ward last year and been done with the position for awhile.
They're showing a ton of interest in Adrian Amos from Penn State. He looks like a guy who can be a target in the 3rd round. Great in coverage, S/CB experience, but the knock on him is run support. With the solid run D with the front 7, I think Amos would be a great target.
Other guys to consider are Eric Rowe (2nd/3rd) and Kurtis Drummond (not sure, I've seen him mocked from 2nd-5th). Josh Shaw is another guy who might be able to play safety. He played CB/S at times during USC - I'm not how sure his pool incident would fit with the "culture".
I'm not sure if they think of Byron Jones as a corner or safety - my gut says corner.
I'm starting to become a fan of going OT in round 1. The guys we brought in for "top 30 visits" who are first round guys are Lael Collins and TJ Clemmings. If both are gone (Clemmings might be available when we pick), I think we go with another position in round 2.
The other option based on needs in this draft is CB. Dave Spadaro recently said there are 5-6 corners in this draft who can do what we want out of the position. Byron Jones, Marcus Peters, Trae Waynes were mentioned specifically and will all be gone by round 2. Do we roll the dice we'll get someone later? I think it's a position of need since we're working out so many corners.
There are a few other players we worked out that are first round targetable like Shane Ray, but it doesn't look like he'll make it to us. Another thing I love about going OT in the first round is that we'll need multiple linemen for the future, so if another one falls to us later, we'll have the option of taking him as well. Ali Marpet in the 3rd jumps out at me if he's still available. He was another one of our top 30 visits.
Wide receiver has been a sexy pick in mocks, but I think it's our fallback plan in the first 3 rounds if a round-grade appropriate CB/OT/S/OLB is not available in the first few rounds. We already have 5 guys penciled in to make the team next year. Matthews, Cooper, Huff, Austin, Ajiritutu. We carried 6 last year, so six is likely this year as well. There will be a draftable WR available in every round like last year, and I think it's a second tier priority compared to the other positions, but a good fallback plan. My guess is if the board falls right, we'll end up with a fan favorite WR in the 4th/5th round like Chris Conley.
I want to make a list of the top 30 visits and prospects we talked to soon based on expected round availability and figure out what I think a solid draft will be for us based on who will be available when, and what the depth will look like in the subsequent rounds.
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I think CB in round 1 would be good. I think where we pick I might go with Jalen Collins. Reports were he was the only guy who would consistently shutdown ODB Jr. in LSU practices.
ShaHBucks
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Collins will be a waste of a high draft pick. He's a guy with all the tools that never produces. Byron Jones or Eric Rowe
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I don't think it would be odd at all. Remember, last year he pushed to use his #1 pick on Jordan Mathews and was talked out of it and into waiting for round 2 for him.
Mayock's new rankings have Damarious Randall as the new #1 ranked Safety. I know his rankings don't mean much, but all the talk has been about Collins if we got Safety at #20, so this could be a potential as well. He is undersized which Chip won't like, but he is a Pac 12 player which he most definitely will.
Mighty Mice
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I had heard differently, I'll have to Google search that. In any event I would be on board with Perriman and IIRC Chip did have to be talked out of Huff earlier (or maybe I'm confusing that with Matthews?)Deamon said:
Insein
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He also wanted Taylor Hart in the 2nd or 3rd and Howie got him to wait till the 5th. I hope he's learned a bit from last year.
Mighty Mice
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Right it was Chip wanted Matthews early...
"Chip Kelly and Howie Roseman were highly at odds over the first two years in draft strategy. Chip Kelly, for instance, wanted to take Jordan Matthews in the first round this last year. Howie Roseman basically had to explain to him, "No, youre going to be able to get a guy like Matthews in the second round." That happened in a number of other circumstances according to sources who Ive talked to who understand the Eagles situation."
Chalk one up for Howie...we DID get him in the 2nd. And as you note, and the article states, it happened a few times.
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/1/4/7489891/chip-kelly-draft-jordan-matthews-nfl-draft-2014
I actually wonder how our draft would have turned out if we did go by Chip though. I mean, it seems like more of a steal getting Mathews round 2... but I think our 2nd round pick might have turned out better then Smith.
haha quite possibly. In which case it would have made no difference. It likely would have been someone else as good or better then him though, without having to move up.
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Sounds like there's a chance it could have been Huff or HartDeamon said:
Not Hart. He wanted Hart in the 3rd, he wouldn't have gone 2nd. Huff? Maybe. But not sure he would have gone WR in round 1 and 2. Don't think our draft could have gotten much worse. Outside of Mathews, it was awful.
Bigboy10182000
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Tebow won't make the team. And I'm fine with bringing him in
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hope not haha. I don't HATE the move from a football stance. How often does a team turn to their 3rd qb in a season? Almost never. Would Tebow be better to throw in for a couple plays a game instead of barkley? Absolutely.
Makes sense from a football standpoint, but I am dreading this in terms of media, eagles haters, etc.
Bigboy10182000
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He'll be the most talked about 3rd/4th QB ever. Talk radio will be hilarious
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@JayGlazer: Eagles looking for a fourth QB for their offseason program but it's Tebows best chance to get back in the league
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ShaHBucks
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Sorry to interrupt the big signing. I just went 5 rounds. Thank for the link.
CB BYRON JONES
CONNECTICUT(Revis possibilities. I don't say this lightly)
QB BRETT HUNDLEYUCLA(Nevermind..)
G ALI MARPET
HOBART(MY top OT)
OLB JAKE RYANMICHIGAN(Better than Shane Ray)
WR CHRIS CONLEYGEORGIA
WR DARREN WALLERGEORGIA TECH(Developing as a TE. 6'6, sub 4.5 runner)
Enjoy the ride guys. Chip is as unpredictable as they come, and he just passed Bill for the top "I don't give a #### what you think" coach.
Maybe this is to take the attention off his other moves up his sleeve. Realistically this is to add a camp body and he won't make the team. If he does, he'll be qb3 and won't touch the field. EIther way, it will be pretty irrelevant in terms of our actual team, ... not sure how people seem to think this makes Chip dumb, or makes our team worse though. Wonder if we draft a 6th qb.
Maybe this is to take the attention off his other moves up his sleeve. Realistically this is to add a camp body and he won't make the team. If he does, he'll be qb3 and won't touch the field. EIther way, it will be pretty irrelevant in terms of our actual team, ... not sure how people seem to think this makes Chip dumb, or makes our team worse though. Wonder if we draft a 6th qb.
Insein
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Donny Loved Bowling
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Why haven't the Eagles shown any interest in G Justin Blalock?
Interesting thought. i wonder if he is going to go back to his Oregon days and go for 2 every time. Tebow was unstoppable down there.
for the Philadelphia experiment this season. It's going to be glorious.
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