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*Official 2015 Philadelphia Eagles* - Winning when it doesnt count (4 Viewers)

So... Sanchez?
For a guy who criticizes Philly sports radio so much, you're just as bad as them. Sanchez will not be the starter, relax.
Hey during the game I'm emotional. Bradford looks worse than Barkley. THAN BARKLEY!
Guys are open, Bradford's not seeing them. We're seeing the results of Chip Kelly bringing in his guys. I've said all offseason, I'm fine with him bringing in the guys he wanted, and will wait till games begin to judge. Well, we're seeing it now.

 
So... Sanchez?
For a guy who criticizes Philly sports radio so much, you're just as bad as them. Sanchez will not be the starter, relax.
Hey during the game I'm emotional. Bradford looks worse than Barkley. THAN BARKLEY!
Guys are open, Bradford's not seeing them. We're seeing the results of Chip Kelly bringing in his guys. I've said all offseason, I'm fine with him bringing in the guys he wanted, and will wait till games begin to judge. Well, we're seeing it now.
You may be right that guys are getting open, I wish we could see it though.

 
No reason we shouldn't roll them. Bradford needs to show something, anything. He needs to have a normal QB game at least. 250 yards, 2 TDs, no picks.
Prescient. :)

13/26-247-3 (0 INT, 3:24 left in 4th).

50% completion percentage not good, TD/INT ratio good, 9.5 Y/A average an improvement.

But the most important stat is a win, hopefully PHI can prevent a TD (up by 4), and pull their record even to .500 after an ominous, disturbing 0-2 start. Maybe he was just rusty after an effectively season and a half hiatus?

 
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It doesn't matter who the QB is if the O-Line is gonna play that poorly.
Yeah, Oline looks very very bad. Can talk all you want about how much time the qb has to throw, but our Rushing game can't get going at all. Murray went 7 carries for 6 yards after his big run. Wash has a great Run D, but our line needs to open up lanes bigger then that (no pun intended).

Frustrating loss. Sam was getting comfortable and going deep and looking good. Like someone mentioned in the game thread though, sometimes other teams just make good plays. They made some great catches to win the game. Just hoping New O can pull it off tonight so we're amazingly only 1 game back of the div lead.

 
I think that loss is all on Chip, or whoever was calling the plays in the fourth qtr. Lead was only 4 and they got conservative. After throwing it all over the yard in the second half, they went ultra-conservative with two straight fourth qtr drives starting near mid-field...and punted on both drives. This offense just can't do conservative successfully, and they've proven that over and over again.

I refuse to blame the defense. Yeah...they gave up a long game winning TD drive in last minutes, but they were again on the field too long. The Skin's also made one great contested catch after another on that drive, a couple of which were almost interceptions instead. On the field that much and giving up 23 points on the road isn't a bad job at all.

 
RE: the O-line.

It's like they're bipolar. AWFUL run blocking, just absolutely AWFUL.

Pass blocking has been inconsistant. At times they look very good, and at others it seems like some of the lineman just get beat too easily. Bradford had plenty of time most of the game, but at other times a 3 or 4 man rush is on him almost immediately...makes no sense.

 
The inability to get a ####### first down, whether it's in the first quarter, or in the fourth with a lead is a ####### problem.

 
Matthews or mega tron decision for me
Just my opinion, but I think the Eagles get some of their groove back tomorrow and drop at least 30 on the Washingtons. I'm starting Matthews, and Bradford, with no worries.
I can see Matthews - Bradford though? Man, I'd need to see him actually show some something...
Well I have Mariota on a bye, that's part of the reason. I almost picked up Carr to spot start but I have faith in Sam getting right against the woeful Washington secondary. We'll see. :shrug:
I love Sam and I'd start Carr in a heartbeat this week over him.
At least it worked out fantasy wise. But I'm sick. :sadbanana:

 
Bradford had a few good passes but you can't give away a whole half of football each week and be a complete statue back there with this oline. Will be interesting to see at what point Sanchez gets in if Bradford continues to take half the game off.

 
I think that loss is all on Chip, or whoever was calling the plays in the fourth qtr. Lead was only 4 and they got conservative. After throwing it all over the yard in the second half, they went ultra-conservative with two straight fourth qtr drives starting near mid-field...and punted on both drives. This offense just can't do conservative successfully, and they've proven that over and over again.

I refuse to blame the defense. Yeah...they gave up a long game winning TD drive in last minutes, but they were again on the field too long. The Skin's also made one great contested catch after another on that drive, a couple of which were almost interceptions instead. On the field that much and giving up 23 points on the road isn't a bad job at all.
It goes both ways. You and I both know, if we started slinging the ball deep during those 2 drives, and ended up punting, people would be in here screaming that we HAVE to give the ball to our 10 million dollar RBs and there's no excuse for Chip not running the ball. It's easy to say you're smarter then the coach when we lose. Don't think the problem was the fact that we TRIED to run the ball, it's the fact that we SUCKED at running the ball. And that can be put on the RB's, or the O line.

Part of the reason the D was on the field so much was also the fact that we couldn't stop them on third down. I agree it also is heavily due to us having such quick 3 and outs, but a D gets just as tired playing 15 plays on the field then they do because of too short of a break on the sideline. It's on both O and D that they were so tired.

 
There's so many issues, no one's wrong. The problem is where to start?

The ####### kicker was a big factor this week. So much to fix, that's the biggest problem. Sucks.

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

On a positive, Jenkins and Hicks have been huge and the stars of our team.

 
There's so many issues, no one's wrong. The problem is where to start?

The ####### kicker was a big factor this week. So much to fix, that's the biggest problem. Sucks.
Do we go sign Forbath? Seems like he's clearly the best one left out there now. Woulda been nice to have him this week on his old home field. He woulda drilled that FG for us.

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

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Really?? I try and not get involved but this is too much. I'm convinced it's just about you being right. He was ####### BRUTAL in the first half that people openly wondered when Sanchez was coming in. NO, he wasn't even close to good enough today.

Fine you're right. Bradford was a machine.

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

On a positive, Jenkins and Hicks have been huge and the stars of our team.
Bradford had a great 3rd quarter sandwiched between a terrible first half and 4th qtr. Had I not watched the whole game, I'd say the stats looked good.

 
Best title ever. "Oh no, we suck again."

Really getting tired of the Eagles ruining my Sunday's. At this point I just have to laugh.

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

On a positive, Jenkins and Hicks have been huge and the stars of our team.
Bradford had a great 3rd quarter sandwiched between a terrible first half and 4th qtr. Had I not watched the whole game, I'd say the stats looked good.
Two of Bradford's long TDs were nice throws but terrible defense. Culliver must have been playing on one leg because you rarely see guys that wide open deep.

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

On a positive, Jenkins and Hicks have been huge and the stars of our team.
Bradford had a great 3rd quarter sandwiched between a terrible first half and 4th qtr. Had I not watched the whole game, I'd say the stats looked good.
Problem I have is there's no time for much praise. The team is 1-3 and a #### show. No one has been good enough.

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

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Really?? I try and not get involved but this is too much. I'm convinced it's just about you being right. He was ####### BRUTAL in the first half that people openly wondered when Sanchez was coming in. NO, he wasn't even close to good enough today. Fine you're right. Bradford was a machine.
Funny he tried to place his insecurities on me. Egos are generally fragile, hence the outbursts. Not worth paying any mind man
 
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Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

On a positive, Jenkins and Hicks have been huge and the stars of our team.
Bradford had a great 3rd quarter sandwiched between a terrible first half and 4th qtr. Had I not watched the whole game, I'd say the stats looked good.
Two of Bradford's long TDs were nice throws but terrible defense. Culliver must have been playing on one leg because you rarely see guys that wide open deep.
Good point, also I think a lot of it was the fact the passes went to guys that are NEVER thrown to. Riley Cooper? Celek has been mostly a blocker and Mile Austin shouldn't be in the NFL.

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

On a positive, Jenkins and Hicks have been huge and the stars of our team.
Bradford had a great 3rd quarter sandwiched between a terrible first half and 4th qtr. Had I not watched the whole game, I'd say the stats looked good.
Two of Bradford's long TDs were nice throws but terrible defense. Culliver must have been playing on one leg because you rarely see guys that wide open deep.
Good point, also I think a lot of it was the fact the passes went to guys that are NEVER thrown to. Riley Cooper? Celek has been mostly a blocker and Mile Austin shouldn't be in the NFL.
The play to Celek was nice, as he side stepped an unblocked Kerrigen. But as I said, the other ones were plays an NFL QB should make.

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

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Really?? I try and not get involved but this is too much. I'm convinced it's just about you being right. He was ####### BRUTAL in the first half that people openly wondered when Sanchez was coming in. NO, he wasn't even close to good enough today.

Fine you're right. Bradford was a machine.
When did I say Bradford was a machine? He was not "####### brutal" the first half. When did he miss open guys? He had no time and had numerous passes dropped. He wasn't amazing, but he was far from "brutally bad"

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

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Really?? I try and not get involved but this is too much. I'm convinced it's just about you being right. He was ####### BRUTAL in the first half that people openly wondered when Sanchez was coming in. NO, he wasn't even close to good enough today.Fine you're right. Bradford was a machine.
Funny he tried to place his insecurities on me. Egos are generally fragile, hence the outbursts. Not worth paying any mind man
Yet you still continue to choose to discuss it. If Bradford had led us to a game winning drive in the end, or had a great game and we lost, would you EVER come in here and say "I was wrong, Bradford was great". Thing is, you're the one with the problem who is unable to ever say they were wrong.

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

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Really?? I try and not get involved but this is too much. I'm convinced it's just about you being right. He was ####### BRUTAL in the first half that people openly wondered when Sanchez was coming in. NO, he wasn't even close to good enough today.Fine you're right. Bradford was a machine.
Funny he tried to place his insecurities on me. Egos are generally fragile, hence the outbursts. Not worth paying any mind man
Yet you still continue to choose to discuss it. If Bradford had led us to a game winning drive in the end, or had a great game and we lost, would you EVER come in here and say "I was wrong, Bradford was great". Thing is, you're the one with the problem who is unable to ever say they were wrong.
But he wasn't great. If he won 20-16, We'd be saying good improvement but theres a lot to work on. 1 quarter of good football a week isn't enough.

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

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Really?? I try and not get involved but this is too much. I'm convinced it's just about you being right. He was ####### BRUTAL in the first half that people openly wondered when Sanchez was coming in. NO, he wasn't even close to good enough today.Fine you're right. Bradford was a machine.
Funny he tried to place his insecurities on me. Egos are generally fragile, hence the outbursts. Not worth paying any mind man
Yet you still continue to choose to discuss it. If Bradford had led us to a game winning drive in the end, or had a great game and we lost, would you EVER come in here and say "I was wrong, Bradford was great". Thing is, you're the one with the problem who is unable to ever say they were wrong.
But he wasn't great. If he won 20-16, We'd be saying good improvement but theres a lot to work on. 1 quarter of good football a week isn't enough.
So you're honestly saying, if a defender who has nothing to do with Sam, picked off the last Cousins throw of the game, you'd be in here saying Sam had "good improvement", but because the defender didn't pick off the last throw, that he was "####### brutal" and the reason we lost? How does that make sense?

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

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Really?? I try and not get involved but this is too much. I'm convinced it's just about you being right. He was ####### BRUTAL in the first half that people openly wondered when Sanchez was coming in. NO, he wasn't even close to good enough today.Fine you're right. Bradford was a machine.
Funny he tried to place his insecurities on me. Egos are generally fragile, hence the outbursts. Not worth paying any mind man
Yet you still continue to choose to discuss it. If Bradford had led us to a game winning drive in the end, or had a great game and we lost, would you EVER come in here and say "I was wrong, Bradford was great". Thing is, you're the one with the problem who is unable to ever say they were wrong.
But he wasn't great. If he won 20-16, We'd be saying good improvement but theres a lot to work on. 1 quarter of good football a week isn't enough.
So you're honestly saying, if a defender who has nothing to do with Sam, picked off the last Cousins throw of the game, you'd be in here saying Sam had "good improvement", but because the defender didn't pick off the last throw, that he was "####### brutal" and the reason we lost? How does that make sense?
Part of the job. QB gets all the praise and all the blame.

 
All I'm saying is that he wasn't great, but he did improve a lot this week. He looked decisive and confident in the 2nd half. Some eagles fans even were in there briefly praising him, and admitting they take back what they said about him. But the second the D can't hold Wash at the end, all that is out the window. I understand being an emotional fan but it's ok to be critical of the O line, the run game, the WR drops, the WR fumbles, etc. Bradford OVERALL today played good enough for us to win the game. If 250 and 3 and 0 int's isn't good enough for you, then maybe you shouldn't be expecting a Brady/Manning performance every time. He needs to be better, but the bigger issue is our Oline and WR drops. We lead the league in drops but no one in here seems to put any of those drops on the WR's because it's easier to be mad at Bradford. It's lazy.

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

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Really?? I try and not get involved but this is too much. I'm convinced it's just about you being right. He was ####### BRUTAL in the first half that people openly wondered when Sanchez was coming in. NO, he wasn't even close to good enough today.Fine you're right. Bradford was a machine.
Funny he tried to place his insecurities on me. Egos are generally fragile, hence the outbursts. Not worth paying any mind man
Yet you still continue to choose to discuss it. If Bradford had led us to a game winning drive in the end, or had a great game and we lost, would you EVER come in here and say "I was wrong, Bradford was great". Thing is, you're the one with the problem who is unable to ever say they were wrong.
is there anyway we can wrap all of this up today, or tomorrow at the latest?

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

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Really?? I try and not get involved but this is too much. I'm convinced it's just about you being right. He was ####### BRUTAL in the first half that people openly wondered when Sanchez was coming in. NO, he wasn't even close to good enough today.Fine you're right. Bradford was a machine.
Funny he tried to place his insecurities on me. Egos are generally fragile, hence the outbursts. Not worth paying any mind man
Yet you still continue to choose to discuss it. If Bradford had led us to a game winning drive in the end, or had a great game and we lost, would you EVER come in here and say "I was wrong, Bradford was great". Thing is, you're the one with the problem who is unable to ever say they were wrong.
Meh. I said that I'd like to see the whole field to judge Bradford in the first half, but felt like he had adequate time on most of his drop-backs. Washington was getting decent pressure, but it was rarely IMMEDIATE except on a couple of blitzes, and even those were not well designed/hidden blitzes (IE: Sam should have seen them coming). It felt like he was holding the ball too long and going down when he could have thrown it away at the very least. That said, he didn't force anything and throw a dumb pick.

He showed his natural talent in the second half with some gorgeous passes deeper downfield...but he also had wide open players and a clean pocket as he did so. Pretty as those throws were, that's the absolute least we should expect from him...and it's not enough to lead this team deep into the playoffs.

He has tremendous natural talent, and it's quite possible he's still shaking off some rust...but right now he doesn't look like much of an improvement on Foles. Foles has a lot of fight and heart...I haven't seen that from Bradford just yet. While it's probably too soon to throw dirt on Bradford, the early returns are not inspiring much confidence.

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

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Really?? I try and not get involved but this is too much. I'm convinced it's just about you being right. He was ####### BRUTAL in the first half that people openly wondered when Sanchez was coming in. NO, he wasn't even close to good enough today.Fine you're right. Bradford was a machine.
Funny he tried to place his insecurities on me. Egos are generally fragile, hence the outbursts. Not worth paying any mind man
Yet you still continue to choose to discuss it. If Bradford had led us to a game winning drive in the end, or had a great game and we lost, would you EVER come in here and say "I was wrong, Bradford was great". Thing is, you're the one with the problem who is unable to ever say they were wrong.
But he wasn't great. If he won 20-16, We'd be saying good improvement but theres a lot to work on. 1 quarter of good football a week isn't enough.
So you're honestly saying, if a defender who has nothing to do with Sam, picked off the last Cousins throw of the game, you'd be in here saying Sam had "good improvement", but because the defender didn't pick off the last throw, that he was "####### brutal" and the reason we lost? How does that make sense?
Part of the job. QB gets all the praise and all the blame.
It is part of the job, but you have to agree it's often misplaced praise/blame on their shoulders all the time. If you were told he'd have a 250+ 3td/0int game beforehand, you would take that from him and be satisfied. It seems like he is going to be called either amazing or brutal... there's no in between for you guys.

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

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Really?? I try and not get involved but this is too much. I'm convinced it's just about you being right. He was ####### BRUTAL in the first half that people openly wondered when Sanchez was coming in. NO, he wasn't even close to good enough today.Fine you're right. Bradford was a machine.
Funny he tried to place his insecurities on me. Egos are generally fragile, hence the outbursts. Not worth paying any mind man
Yet you still continue to choose to discuss it. If Bradford had led us to a game winning drive in the end, or had a great game and we lost, would you EVER come in here and say "I was wrong, Bradford was great". Thing is, you're the one with the problem who is unable to ever say they were wrong.
is there anyway we can wrap all of this up today, or tomorrow at the latest?
I'd love that. But the constant bashing of Bradford will inevitably continue. Eagles fans are notorious for hating their own team. Not sure why we can't just say "he wasn't great, but he improved a lot, had a solid game overall, but he as well as the wr's, oline, rbs, etc need to pick it up and play better". Calling for Sanchez right now is insane.

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

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Really?? I try and not get involved but this is too much. I'm convinced it's just about you being right. He was ####### BRUTAL in the first half that people openly wondered when Sanchez was coming in. NO, he wasn't even close to good enough today.Fine you're right. Bradford was a machine.
Funny he tried to place his insecurities on me. Egos are generally fragile, hence the outbursts. Not worth paying any mind man
Yet you still continue to choose to discuss it. If Bradford had led us to a game winning drive in the end, or had a great game and we lost, would you EVER come in here and say "I was wrong, Bradford was great". Thing is, you're the one with the problem who is unable to ever say they were wrong.
Meh. I said that I'd like to see the whole field to judge Bradford in the first half, but felt like he had adequate time on most of his drop-backs. Washington was getting decent pressure, but it was rarely IMMEDIATE except on a couple of blitzes, and even those were not well designed/hidden blitzes (IE: Sam should have seen them coming). It felt like he was holding the ball too long and going down when he could have thrown it away at the very least. That said, he didn't force anything and throw a dumb pick.

He showed his natural talent in the second half with some gorgeous passes deeper downfield...but he also had wide open players and a clean pocket as he did so. Pretty as those throws were, that's the absolute least we should expect from him...and it's not enough to lead this team deep into the playoffs.

He has tremendous natural talent, and it's quite possible he's still shaking off some rust...but right now he doesn't look like much of an improvement on Foles. Foles has a lot of fight and heart...I haven't seen that from Bradford just yet. While it's probably too soon to throw dirt on Bradford, the early returns are not inspiring much confidence.
Well said. At least that was calm and thought out. He missed a couple throws and definitely took a few sacks when he probably could have gotten rid of it. On the flip side he also amazingly took off and ran for a few balls, and was smart with the ball. We've been so sick of the game changing INT's we've seen the last few years from our QBs (with the exception of Foles' one season). People in here flooded with posts about making dangerous throws and not protecting the ball enough. At least Sam has done well with this. He does have 4 int's in 3 games but half of those weren't even remotely on him and were because the WR missed the catch and tipped the ball up.

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

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Really?? I try and not get involved but this is too much. I'm convinced it's just about you being right. He was ####### BRUTAL in the first half that people openly wondered when Sanchez was coming in. NO, he wasn't even close to good enough today.Fine you're right. Bradford was a machine.
Funny he tried to place his insecurities on me. Egos are generally fragile, hence the outbursts. Not worth paying any mind man
Yet you still continue to choose to discuss it. If Bradford had led us to a game winning drive in the end, or had a great game and we lost, would you EVER come in here and say "I was wrong, Bradford was great". Thing is, you're the one with the problem who is unable to ever say they were wrong.
is there anyway we can wrap all of this up today, or tomorrow at the latest?
I'd love that. But the constant bashing of Bradford will inevitably continue. Eagles fans are notorious for hating their own team. Not sure why we can't just say "he wasn't great, but he improved a lot, had a solid game overall, but he as well as the wr's, oline, rbs, etc need to pick it up and play better". Calling for Sanchez right now is insane.
Seriously, wrap it up already. It's not your place to tell anyone how they are suppose to feel about how he has played which isn't good at all. Everyone knows your position, lets move on.

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

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Really?? I try and not get involved but this is too much. I'm convinced it's just about you being right. He was ####### BRUTAL in the first half that people openly wondered when Sanchez was coming in. NO, he wasn't even close to good enough today.Fine you're right. Bradford was a machine.
Funny he tried to place his insecurities on me. Egos are generally fragile, hence the outbursts. Not worth paying any mind man
Yet you still continue to choose to discuss it. If Bradford had led us to a game winning drive in the end, or had a great game and we lost, would you EVER come in here and say "I was wrong, Bradford was great". Thing is, you're the one with the problem who is unable to ever say they were wrong.
But he wasn't great. If he won 20-16, We'd be saying good improvement but theres a lot to work on. 1 quarter of good football a week isn't enough.
So you're honestly saying, if a defender who has nothing to do with Sam, picked off the last Cousins throw of the game, you'd be in here saying Sam had "good improvement", but because the defender didn't pick off the last throw, that he was "####### brutal" and the reason we lost? How does that make sense?
Part of the job. QB gets all the praise and all the blame.
It is part of the job, but you have to agree it's often misplaced praise/blame on their shoulders all the time. If you were told he'd have a 250+ 3td/0int game beforehand, you would take that from him and be satisfied. It seems like he is going to be called either amazing or brutal... there's no in between for you guys.
I literally said that 3 posts up. But I watched the game.

 
so will Chip start going for 2 more often? i don't know if he can rely on any kicker floating around. big concern with the OL, but thought we would be trying more of them

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

.
Really?? I try and not get involved but this is too much. I'm convinced it's just about you being right. He was ####### BRUTAL in the first half that people openly wondered when Sanchez was coming in. NO, he wasn't even close to good enough today.Fine you're right. Bradford was a machine.
Funny he tried to place his insecurities on me. Egos are generally fragile, hence the outbursts. Not worth paying any mind man
Yet you still continue to choose to discuss it. If Bradford had led us to a game winning drive in the end, or had a great game and we lost, would you EVER come in here and say "I was wrong, Bradford was great". Thing is, you're the one with the problem who is unable to ever say they were wrong.
is there anyway we can wrap all of this up today, or tomorrow at the latest?
I'd love that. But the constant bashing of Bradford will inevitably continue. Eagles fans are notorious for hating their own team. Not sure why we can't just say "he wasn't great, but he improved a lot, had a solid game overall, but he as well as the wr's, oline, rbs, etc need to pick it up and play better". Calling for Sanchez right now is insane.
Seriously, wrap it up already. It's not your place to tell anyone how they are suppose to feel about how he has played which isn't good at all. Everyone knows your position, lets move on.
He played good enough to win us the game today. That's all I'm saying and that's all that matters. It's not your place to tell me how I'm supposed to feel about it anyways. It seems to be okay with everyone to disagree with how I feel about him, but not okay for me to disagree with how you feel about him. It's just frustrating to see fans hate on our own team and refusing to give credit if/when credit is finally due.

This used to be a place to discuss the team with good fans who would rather the team win then be right as opposed to ESPN and CSN comment sections filled with anger and hate. I'm as pissed off as anyone about being 1-3, but think the blame goes all around and am more pissed at our fumbling, pass dropping, interception causing WR's and our Oline that can't get our run game going if their lives depended on it. We are 30th in the NFL in Rushing yards.... that in my opinion is our number 1 issue yet is barely being talked about compared to Bradford.

 
Would it absolutely KILL someone to just admit "Hey I overreacted about Bradford in the first half. He ended up looking good, accurate, and was a huge reason we were even in the game". You asked for 250 and 2 and he did better. Just for once give him a little credit here, he was definitely not the reason we lost that game if you look at his game as a whole. These drops are killing him, our drives, and our record. We should have the NFL drops lead by a big margin now after this week and most of those are inexcusable drops.

.
Really?? I try and not get involved but this is too much. I'm convinced it's just about you being right. He was ####### BRUTAL in the first half that people openly wondered when Sanchez was coming in. NO, he wasn't even close to good enough today.Fine you're right. Bradford was a machine.
Funny he tried to place his insecurities on me. Egos are generally fragile, hence the outbursts. Not worth paying any mind man
Yet you still continue to choose to discuss it. If Bradford had led us to a game winning drive in the end, or had a great game and we lost, would you EVER come in here and say "I was wrong, Bradford was great". Thing is, you're the one with the problem who is unable to ever say they were wrong.
is there anyway we can wrap all of this up today, or tomorrow at the latest?
I'd love that. But the constant bashing of Bradford will inevitably continue. Eagles fans are notorious for hating their own team. Not sure why we can't just say "he wasn't great, but he improved a lot, had a solid game overall, but he as well as the wr's, oline, rbs, etc need to pick it up and play better". Calling for Sanchez right now is insane.
Seriously, wrap it up already. It's not your place to tell anyone how they are suppose to feel about how he has played which isn't good at all. Everyone knows your position, lets move on.
He played good enough to win us the game today. That's all I'm saying and that's all that matters. It's not your place to tell me how I'm supposed to feel about it anyways. It seems to be okay with everyone to disagree with how I feel about him, but not okay for me to disagree with how you feel about him. It's just frustrating to see fans hate on our own team and refusing to give credit if/when credit is finally due.

This used to be a place to discuss the team with good fans who would rather the team win then be right as opposed to ESPN and CSN comment sections filled with anger and hate. I'm as pissed off as anyone about being 1-3, but think the blame goes all around and am more pissed at our fumbling, pass dropping, interception causing WR's and our Oline that can't get our run game going if their lives depended on it. We are 30th in the NFL in Rushing yards.... that in my opinion is our number 1 issue yet is barely being talked about compared to Bradford.
You've destroyed the last 10 pages of this thread letting everyone know how you feel, we get it. It's very reasonable for people to be unhappy with Bradford, he has stepped into an offense that has been a machine the last 2 years and makes it look terrible at times with flashes of being OK. We are in last place. We traded away a quarterback that had a lot of success in this offense for Bradford AND gave up picks to pay him a lot more than Foles. The quarterback that was traded away had a 27-2 ratio one year and a 7 TD game. So far Bradford is making that move look completely unnecessary and a terrible decision. Does he change that and shake off the rust, we will see. I feel good about most of Chip's moves besides this one and am a Chip supporter, you can't nail them all. Sproles was a brilliant move. After what Bradford has shown so far though it is completely reasonable for fans to be unhappy with him and the fact the trade was made. 100%.

That said, let it go already. You keep repeating the same thing.

 
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