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*Official 2015 Philadelphia Eagles* - Winning when it doesnt count (6 Viewers)

I went back through the numbers, Chip Kelly's record without Nick Foles is a complete joke. I thought I'd be more pissed at him being benched, but I'm not. This is typical of the NFL/media.

Foles 15-4 winning record, threw for 40TD/12INTs, nearly set NFL effectncy records in 2013, won a division and a probowl MVP, 90 career QB rate and didn't get sacked much with an awful Oline

Without Foles Chip's QBs are 9-14, 30TD/29INTs, and 1-8 record vs winning teams(Foles was 4-1).

Kids career is basically over, and Chip is back to being mocked like he was before Foles. I would normally write a whole article, but the numbers don't support any other argument for two second.
Take it to the Foles thread. He's a joke
 
I went back through the numbers, Chip Kelly's record without Nick Foles is a complete joke. I thought I'd be more pissed at him being benched, but I'm not. This is typical of the NFL/media.

Foles 15-4 winning record, threw for 40TD/12INTs, nearly set NFL effectncy records in 2013, won a division and a probowl MVP, 90 career QB rate and didn't get sacked much with an awful Oline

Without Foles Chip's QBs are 9-14, 30TD/29INTs, and 1-8 record vs winning teams(Foles was 4-1).

Kids career is basically over, and Chip is back to being mocked like he was before Foles. I would normally write a whole article, but the numbers don't support any other argument for two second.
Take it to the Foles thread. He's a joke
And Chip is a QB making genius. I know
 
You are as good as your record is. Pulling the plug on this year. Assume Chip has one more year left unless he sees the writing on the wall and bails. Got one more year to try another QB and see what happens from there.

 
This team is complete trash, and I don't see how it's anyone's fault but Chip. If you wanna argue that this lineup is better than in Reid's last year it just makes Chip look even worse.

 
This team is complete trash, and I don't see how it's anyone's fault but Chip. If you wanna argue that this lineup is better than in Reid's last year it just makes Chip look even worse.
the Eagles suck this year. And now I remember why I hated the thought of switching to Sanchez when Bradford was healthy. He's so so bad. The shocking thing today was the defense. Wth happened to it? It was the one bright spot this year.

 
You guys seen enough sanchez yet? I did. Last year was enough for me
Hate him, where can you find good QB in this league though except the draft.

We will have to roll w Bradford into next year unless we can find someone else somehow.

I'm good with Shurmer going too, let Chip pick a couple new coordinators.

 
This team is complete trash, and I don't see how it's anyone's fault but Chip. If you wanna argue that this lineup is better than in Reid's last year it just makes Chip look even worse.
the Eagles suck this year. And now I remember why I hated the thought of switching to Sanchez when Bradford was healthy. He's so so bad.The shocking thing today was the defense. Wth happened to it? It was the one bright spot this year.
This.

 
So we went from hoping for 3 wins in a row (4 in a row) to now possibly seeing 3 losses in a row to sub .500 teams? This is Kotite esque.

 
Well we just need to give Kelly a year to figure this out. After all this is his first year as GM and he changed a while bunch of things.

 
Chip,is a delusional human being. Just watching his presser. Delusional.
Oh god I didn't even see it. How bad?
Well, he really came down hard on the D (and rightly so) but I have to agree with Ray that it's preposterous to think the O is t full of issues. They can't go downfield. They can only dink and dunk. Personal, scheme...whatever. It's all on Chip. And it's really depressing to think wether Chip stays or not, this team is set back a long time. No development. He was asked if he's lost control of the team and of course he says no but B West really went off and said, "No way that guys aren't questioning this with the sleep trackers, the smoothies and the practicing every day, etc."

 
Yay guys come on we are like 5 plays away from being 9-0. What are we all complaining for.
Sorry that you're just a negative nancy whose life is miserable 24 hours a day. Some real fans look for reasons to be optimistic.While the rest of us think of reasons how we might still make our way into the playoffs, you can sit in the dark and cry about the Marcus Smith pick two years ago. You must be a joy to be around.
You remind me of some Flyer fans from a few years back that kept insisting were just a goalie away or just a defenseman away or just a scorer away from the Cup.Look if we're in a rebuild and Kelly wants the Mulligan to figure things out fine. I mean I'm onboard with the sixers plan. Why not another. But the Eagles were supposed to be different. We were supposed to be asscending. Instead were at square one.

I'm not saying I won't be on board if we get to the playoffs. I just don't see this team doing anything even if we somehow got there. We have the same record as the Dolphins, Bucs, Chiefs, Raiders, Colts, Texans, Skins, Bears, Rams and Seahawks. We're mediocre. Have strange things happened in the NFL where teams suddenly turn it around and go on a run? sure. But forgive me if I don't feel like putting myself out on that ledge again.
1/2 game out with 6 to play and you're giving up. Lol. It must suck being you. Football season is so fun. Oy
:lmao: its like words are your enemy or something.
I bet if someone told you that after week 10, we'd have the same record as the Colts, Rams, and Seahawks, you'd have taken it. There's a ton of parity in the league. Pats are head and shoulders above everyone else. Then, there's not a team we can't beat. Carolina is every power ranking's #2. We were a Huff drop in the end zone from tying them up. Not sure why you're so positive we can't sneak in the playoffs and make some noise.
update?

 
And all this Chip the GM crap needs to chill a little. The guy hasn't even had a full season as the GM yet.
Yes but you know he's had major decision making privelegs since he got here. I could maybe give Howie some credit/blame but too many picks are uncharasteric of Howie. Has Chips finger prints all over it. I.E. Marcus Smith.
Marcus Smith was Howie after he convinced Chip he could get Matthews later.

Not directed at you, but this is why I hate this city. They only deal in 10's and 1's.....they feel like a 10 after a win and a 1 after a loss. Chip the GM will never be able to be a 5-7, which is more likely what he has been so far. We are supposed to have intelligent fans, right? Why does it need to be explained to intelligent fans that our GM isn't even 1 year into his plan?!? How many football GM's can fix every issue their team has in one off-season?
This. Chip drafted Hicks, and he may be the steal of the draft. Never gets mentioned by his haters. Just the misses (which every single team has)
I think I mentioned Hicks about a dozen times as a great pick. Now let's look at Eric Rowe, Marcus Smith, Josh Huff, Earl Wolff, Taylor Hart, etc.Chip gets credit for Hicks and Logan. Lane was default. Matthews has been decent but not a stud when compared to the other WRs we could have had. Ertz is completely under used or just not that good. What other good picks has he made?
The jury is still out on his drafts though IMO. All of them really.

When you talk about him as a talent evaluator do you just limit it to drafts? I look at the Nolan Carrolls, Sproles, Jenkins, Walter Thurmond, Barwins etc as damn good moves by him. THOSE are the moves that should stand out to intelligent fans IMHO. Parkey last season too.

Hell, even go back and look in this thread when Maxwell was doing awful and see how many times his name is mentioned. He's been playing very well over the past 4 weeks and see how often his name is mentioned. That's the Philly I hate. There's going to be good and bad, but not here. There's bad and backhanded good.
A small portion of Eagles fans are among the worst in the league. Just sickening to listen to. Miserable and negative 100% of the time.

Of course no one is mentioning Maxwell's improved play. What fun is that? Look at Bradford's stats over the last two games. 44 of 61 (72%) for 531 yards, 2 TDs and 0 interceptions. Yet the guys who have been calling for his head all season suddenly have nothing to say about him. Onto the next thing to gripe about.
Two good postings. That Sha/Insein will stubbornly scoff off and say "whatever man, I'm mad" then go hide in a corner until there's another opportunity to come out and yell about how bad things are. I like objective fans that can actually admit they're wrong or give credit when it's due, even if it's against their hateful agenda they've boasted during the down times. Those aren't real fans.
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Yay guys come on we are like 5 plays away from being 9-0. What are we all complaining for.
Sorry that you're just a negative nancy whose life is miserable 24 hours a day. Some real fans look for reasons to be optimistic.While the rest of us think of reasons how we might still make our way into the playoffs, you can sit in the dark and cry about the Marcus Smith pick two years ago. You must be a joy to be around.
You remind me of some Flyer fans from a few years back that kept insisting were just a goalie away or just a defenseman away or just a scorer away from the Cup.Look if we're in a rebuild and Kelly wants the Mulligan to figure things out fine. I mean I'm onboard with the sixers plan. Why not another. But the Eagles were supposed to be different. We were supposed to be asscending. Instead were at square one.

I'm not saying I won't be on board if we get to the playoffs. I just don't see this team doing anything even if we somehow got there. We have the same record as the Dolphins, Bucs, Chiefs, Raiders, Colts, Texans, Skins, Bears, Rams and Seahawks. We're mediocre. Have strange things happened in the NFL where teams suddenly turn it around and go on a run? sure. But forgive me if I don't feel like putting myself out on that ledge again.
1/2 game out with 6 to play and you're giving up. Lol. It must suck being you. Football season is so fun. Oy
:lmao: its like words are your enemy or something.
I bet if someone told you that after week 10, we'd have the same record as the Colts, Rams, and Seahawks, you'd have taken it. There's a ton of parity in the league. Pats are head and shoulders above everyone else. Then, there's not a team we can't beat. Carolina is every power ranking's #2. We were a Huff drop in the end zone from tying them up. Not sure why you're so positive we can't sneak in the playoffs and make some noise.
update?
One game out of first. But thoroughly disgusted. Offense stunk. Defense stunk. Can't believe we,very hot the soft spot of the schedule and have come up 0-2. Not one thing to be optimistic about today.
 
And all this Chip the GM crap needs to chill a little. The guy hasn't even had a full season as the GM yet.
Yes but you know he's had major decision making privelegs since he got here. I could maybe give Howie some credit/blame but too many picks are uncharasteric of Howie. Has Chips finger prints all over it. I.E. Marcus Smith.
Marcus Smith was Howie after he convinced Chip he could get Matthews later.

Not directed at you, but this is why I hate this city. They only deal in 10's and 1's.....they feel like a 10 after a win and a 1 after a loss. Chip the GM will never be able to be a 5-7, which is more likely what he has been so far. We are supposed to have intelligent fans, right? Why does it need to be explained to intelligent fans that our GM isn't even 1 year into his plan?!? How many football GM's can fix every issue their team has in one off-season?
This. Chip drafted Hicks, and he may be the steal of the draft. Never gets mentioned by his haters. Just the misses (which every single team has)
I think I mentioned Hicks about a dozen times as a great pick. Now let's look at Eric Rowe, Marcus Smith, Josh Huff, Earl Wolff, Taylor Hart, etc.Chip gets credit for Hicks and Logan. Lane was default. Matthews has been decent but not a stud when compared to the other WRs we could have had. Ertz is completely under used or just not that good. What other good picks has he made?
The jury is still out on his drafts though IMO. All of them really.

When you talk about him as a talent evaluator do you just limit it to drafts? I look at the Nolan Carrolls, Sproles, Jenkins, Walter Thurmond, Barwins etc as damn good moves by him. THOSE are the moves that should stand out to intelligent fans IMHO. Parkey last season too.

Hell, even go back and look in this thread when Maxwell was doing awful and see how many times his name is mentioned. He's been playing very well over the past 4 weeks and see how often his name is mentioned. That's the Philly I hate. There's going to be good and bad, but not here. There's bad and backhanded good.
A small portion of Eagles fans are among the worst in the league. Just sickening to listen to. Miserable and negative 100% of the time. Of course no one is mentioning Maxwell's improved play. What fun is that? Look at Bradford's stats over the last two games. 44 of 61 (72%) for 531 yards, 2 TDs and 0 interceptions. Yet the guys who have been calling for his head all season suddenly have nothing to say about him. Onto the next thing to gripe about.
Two good postings. That Sha/Insein will stubbornly scoff off and say "whatever man, I'm mad" then go hide in a corner until there's another opportunity to come out and yell about how bad things are. I like objective fans that can actually admit they're wrong or give credit when it's due, even if it's against their hateful agenda they've boasted during the down times. Those aren't real fans.
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Well we just need to give Kelly a year to figure this out. After all this is his first year as GM and he changed a while bunch of things.
I do agree with this. This season is very disappointing and frustrating, but Chip should have another year to put it together.

 
And all this Chip the GM crap needs to chill a little. The guy hasn't even had a full season as the GM yet.
Yes but you know he's had major decision making privelegs since he got here. I could maybe give Howie some credit/blame but too many picks are uncharasteric of Howie. Has Chips finger prints all over it. I.E. Marcus Smith.
Marcus Smith was Howie after he convinced Chip he could get Matthews later.

Not directed at you, but this is why I hate this city. They only deal in 10's and 1's.....they feel like a 10 after a win and a 1 after a loss. Chip the GM will never be able to be a 5-7, which is more likely what he has been so far. We are supposed to have intelligent fans, right? Why does it need to be explained to intelligent fans that our GM isn't even 1 year into his plan?!? How many football GM's can fix every issue their team has in one off-season?
This. Chip drafted Hicks, and he may be the steal of the draft. Never gets mentioned by his haters. Just the misses (which every single team has)
I think I mentioned Hicks about a dozen times as a great pick. Now let's look at Eric Rowe, Marcus Smith, Josh Huff, Earl Wolff, Taylor Hart, etc.Chip gets credit for Hicks and Logan. Lane was default. Matthews has been decent but not a stud when compared to the other WRs we could have had. Ertz is completely under used or just not that good. What other good picks has he made?
The jury is still out on his drafts though IMO. All of them really.

When you talk about him as a talent evaluator do you just limit it to drafts? I look at the Nolan Carrolls, Sproles, Jenkins, Walter Thurmond, Barwins etc as damn good moves by him. THOSE are the moves that should stand out to intelligent fans IMHO. Parkey last season too.

Hell, even go back and look in this thread when Maxwell was doing awful and see how many times his name is mentioned. He's been playing very well over the past 4 weeks and see how often his name is mentioned. That's the Philly I hate. There's going to be good and bad, but not here. There's bad and backhanded good.
A small portion of Eagles fans are among the worst in the league. Just sickening to listen to. Miserable and negative 100% of the time.

Of course no one is mentioning Maxwell's improved play. What fun is that? Look at Bradford's stats over the last two games. 44 of 61 (72%) for 531 yards, 2 TDs and 0 interceptions. Yet the guys who have been calling for his head all season suddenly have nothing to say about him. Onto the next thing to gripe about.
Two good postings. That Sha/Insein will stubbornly scoff off and say "whatever man, I'm mad" then go hide in a corner until there's another opportunity to come out and yell about how bad things are. I like objective fans that can actually admit they're wrong or give credit when it's due, even if it's against their hateful agenda they've boasted during the down times. Those aren't real fans.
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You seem to find some unhealthy satisfaction in 'being right'. But yes, thanks for bumping this... you'll see that Sha has posted in here only after our losses. Should be a busy week for him, but wasn't a peep after wins. I think even you can see who the real fans of this team are.

We are all upset here, not sure how "i told you so' makes it any worse. Today showed that we just aren't a great team and that is really frustrating. Clearly Sam was the least of our problems.... we have huge holes on both sides of the ball. Will still ruthlessly cheer for us to beat Detroit next week, but today was just a total disaster all the way around. This sucks.

 
And all this Chip the GM crap needs to chill a little. The guy hasn't even had a full season as the GM yet.
Yes but you know he's had major decision making privelegs since he got here. I could maybe give Howie some credit/blame but too many picks are uncharasteric of Howie. Has Chips finger prints all over it. I.E. Marcus Smith.
Marcus Smith was Howie after he convinced Chip he could get Matthews later.

Not directed at you, but this is why I hate this city. They only deal in 10's and 1's.....they feel like a 10 after a win and a 1 after a loss. Chip the GM will never be able to be a 5-7, which is more likely what he has been so far. We are supposed to have intelligent fans, right? Why does it need to be explained to intelligent fans that our GM isn't even 1 year into his plan?!? How many football GM's can fix every issue their team has in one off-season?
This. Chip drafted Hicks, and he may be the steal of the draft. Never gets mentioned by his haters. Just the misses (which every single team has)
I think I mentioned Hicks about a dozen times as a great pick. Now let's look at Eric Rowe, Marcus Smith, Josh Huff, Earl Wolff, Taylor Hart, etc.Chip gets credit for Hicks and Logan. Lane was default. Matthews has been decent but not a stud when compared to the other WRs we could have had. Ertz is completely under used or just not that good. What other good picks has he made?
The jury is still out on his drafts though IMO. All of them really.

When you talk about him as a talent evaluator do you just limit it to drafts? I look at the Nolan Carrolls, Sproles, Jenkins, Walter Thurmond, Barwins etc as damn good moves by him. THOSE are the moves that should stand out to intelligent fans IMHO. Parkey last season too.

Hell, even go back and look in this thread when Maxwell was doing awful and see how many times his name is mentioned. He's been playing very well over the past 4 weeks and see how often his name is mentioned. That's the Philly I hate. There's going to be good and bad, but not here. There's bad and backhanded good.
A small portion of Eagles fans are among the worst in the league. Just sickening to listen to. Miserable and negative 100% of the time. Of course no one is mentioning Maxwell's improved play. What fun is that? Look at Bradford's stats over the last two games. 44 of 61 (72%) for 531 yards, 2 TDs and 0 interceptions. Yet the guys who have been calling for his head all season suddenly have nothing to say about him. Onto the next thing to gripe about.
Two good postings. That Sha/Insein will stubbornly scoff off and say "whatever man, I'm mad" then go hide in a corner until there's another opportunity to come out and yell about how bad things are. I like objective fans that can actually admit they're wrong or give credit when it's due, even if it's against their hateful agenda they've boasted during the down times. Those aren't real fans.
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You seem to find some unhealthy satisfaction in 'being right'. But yes, thanks for bumping this... you'll see that Sha has posted in here only after our losses. Should be a busy week for him, but wasn't a peep after wins. I think even you can see who the real fans of this team are.We are all upset here, not sure how "i told you so' makes it any worse. Today showed that we just aren't a great team and that is really frustrating. Clearly Sam was the least of our problems.... we have huge holes on both sides of the ball. Will still ruthlessly cheer for us to beat Detroit next week, but today was just a total disaster all the way around. This sucks.
the doomsdayers are happier that the Eagles sucked today than they would be if the played great. Wooohoo!! I was right!! They were really bad. Let's go find old posts by those good, optimistic fans. We'll show 'em. Lol. So sad.

 
Well we just need to give Kelly a year to figure this out. After all this is his first year as GM and he changed a while bunch of things.
I do agree with this. This season is very disappointing and frustrating, but Chip should have another year to put it together.
Those calling for Chip's firing are the same people who wanted Sanchez to start over Bradford. I get its frustrating, but wanting to fire everyone, bench everyone, isn't realistic. This is the NFL, and even if we go 6-10 this year, Chip has had an above average first 3 years as an NFL coach. He's going to get some time despite how much you whine and cry in a forum.

 
Nobody in here wants the Eagles to lose (maybe ShahBucks, I don't know, he is an odd cat). Nothing would make me happier than to be 6-4 right now. Losing these 2 eminently winnable games ruins my ####### day.

Don't call people out about being "real fans" when they are just posting observations, regardless of whether they are negative or positive. I don't bump renesauz's posts, even though he is an eternal optimist.

 
Detroit actually has looked good the last couple weeks and are on a roll. Curious what the line is going to be. For some reason, we have been favoured in 8 of 10 games this year. I hope we go in as underdogs for once, we seem to play better then.

 
Nobody in here wants the Eagles to lose (maybe ShahBucks, I don't know, he is an odd cat). Nothing would make me happier than to be 6-4 right now. Losing these 2 eminently winnable games ruins my ####### day.

Don't call people out about being "real fans" when they are just posting observations, regardless of whether they are negative or positive. I don't bump renesauz's posts, even though he is an eternal optimist.
I have never called you. Insein and ShaHBucks are the anti-Eagles fans. Didn't know we had a beef.
 
Nobody in here wants the Eagles to lose (maybe ShahBucks, I don't know, he is an odd cat). Nothing would make me happier than to be 6-4 right now. Losing these 2 eminently winnable games ruins my ####### day.

Don't call people out about being "real fans" when they are just posting observations, regardless of whether they are negative or positive. I don't bump renesauz's posts, even though he is an eternal optimist.
I think you're giving him too much credit saying that he 'maybe' is a fan. It's pretty clear now that he enjoys these losses much more.

As for the others, I know you cheer for the team, but I dont really see what you're bringing to the table by coming here and saying "you had optimism last week? How's that going for you?" and mocking someone for having that optimism. It's a little hypocritical, and comes across as if you're taking even a small amount of joy in this loss and making those posts. Or maybe it's just a chance to brag and boost your ego when the team gives you nothing. Either way, there's a big difference between 'posting an observation' and rubbing it in an eagles fans face that they were wrong to be hopeful... I think you know that too.

I've been on the 'optimist' side of things in here, but don't you think I am bitter too? All of our days/weeks are ruined when the team we care about plays like that. It sucks and I'm not sure what Chip should do from here on out. I was disappointed by no oline drafting too, so that needs to be a priority. But as does our run D, our WR's, etc. I don't think a qb with our first round pick is going to solve much. Not having a 2nd rounder next year, not going oline in last years draft, etc. etc. sucks, but it's over and those opportunities are over so we're beating a dead horse.

 
Nobody in here wants the Eagles to lose (maybe ShahBucks, I don't know, he is an odd cat). Nothing would make me happier than to be 6-4 right now. Losing these 2 eminently winnable games ruins my ####### day.

Don't call people out about being "real fans" when they are just posting observations, regardless of whether they are negative or positive. I don't bump renesauz's posts, even though he is an eternal optimist.
I have never called you. Insein and ShaHBucks are the anti-Eagles fans. Didn't know we had a beef.
I think Insein is an actual fan, I just hate the way he goes about it. The way he vents and complains and acts like he could make better decisions then NFL GM's after every loss is what gives Eagles fans a bad reputation. He still cheers for the team though. I think.

 
So pathetic today, can't see how they can do a whole lot to improve by Thursday, given short week and having to travel. Losing to Detroit is a very real possibility. The Lions have won two in a row and are playing very solid pass D. If we leave DET 4-7, and then go to Foxboro, looking at 4-8 real quick. At 4-4, this team still had moments and hitting a softer part of the schedule, had to think that they would be in it until the end. And it began that way v. MIA. But honestly the last 7 Q's of football have been so outrageously bad on offense, defense and special teams alike it's impossible to think they fix this in 2015.

1st Q of the season 1-3

2nd Q of the season 3-1

3rd Q of the season 0-2, @DET, @NE

The wheels have come off, and I fear it is going to be a painful limp to the end of the year. Still some good pieces here, and surely we bring in some rookies and FA's to help. Just need a hard reset and refocus. Need to establish an identity, know what we can do and excel at it. Dictate to other teams in certain aspects of the game, whether that be pass rush, run game, an up tempo risk taking offense, whatever. The most damning thing re: this team and Kelly IMO is how unfocused they are. All year, penalties, mental miscues, and playing with very little fire and emotion when sitting at 4-4 or 4-5 in this division/conference is unacceptable.

No doubt the team questions everything internally right now. Kick a FG on 4th-2 to cut it from 24 to 21, and then try an onsides? Huh?

 
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It makes no sense for Chip to be gone. I'm extremely unhappy with him but it would be completely foolish to make a change now.

But...where are we and where are we going? I can't ever remember feeling this bleak. With Andy's end coming we at at least had the dream of change. But what now?

 
Nobody in here wants the Eagles to lose (maybe ShahBucks, I don't know, he is an odd cat). Nothing would make me happier than to be 6-4 right now. Losing these 2 eminently winnable games ruins my ####### day.

Don't call people out about being "real fans" when they are just posting observations, regardless of whether they are negative or positive. I don't bump renesauz's posts, even though he is an eternal optimist.
I have never called you. Insein and ShaHBucks are the anti-Eagles fans. Didn't know we had a beef.
I think Insein is an actual fan, I just hate the way he goes about it. The way he vents and complains and acts like he could make better decisions then NFL GM's after every loss is what gives Eagles fans a bad reputation. He still cheers for the team though. I think.
A lot of sarcasm and gallows humor.

 
Nobody in here wants the Eagles to lose (maybe ShahBucks, I don't know, he is an odd cat). Nothing would make me happier than to be 6-4 right now. Losing these 2 eminently winnable games ruins my ####### day.

Don't call people out about being "real fans" when they are just posting observations, regardless of whether they are negative or positive. I don't bump renesauz's posts, even though he is an eternal optimist.
I have never called you. Insein and ShaHBucks are the anti-Eagles fans. Didn't know we had a beef.
Yes my track record shows me as anti Eagles. :mellow:

 

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