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*Official 2015 Philadelphia Eagles* - Winning when it doesnt count (1 Viewer)

Another win or the season's over game. I have very little faith we can do it.

Buy knowing the Eagles, we win this week then lose in week 17 to a Giants team that has nothing to play for and Wash wins the division at 8-8 when they pummel the Cowboys.

 
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The injuries are the only thing I'm disappointed with in this game. Arizona is a damn good team, and an incredible offense. With our CB's being out, I'm surprised they didn't drop way more on us. We aren't a super bowl team, but I'd rather a playoff spot then not a playoff spot.

Like we knew would happen, it all comes down to the Washington game. I think we can beat a Giants team playing for nothing, but it's going to be a tight, vicious game vs Washington Saturday night. Probably the only Saturday night I'm off work in the year so excited to get to watch the game.

 
The Eagles are supposed to be tough.

I don't know if Chip Kelly is your guy but I would give him one more year to find a Quarterback to fit his system. Notably, someone to get Agholor the ball.

Bradford doesn't have it, imo.

 
The Eagles are supposed to be tough.

I don't know if Chip Kelly is your guy but I would give him one more year to find a Quarterback to fit his system. Notably, someone to get Agholor the ball.

Bradford doesn't have it, imo.
was this an old post from October that you forgot to hit send?Bradford has looked better every game and his numbers over the last 7 games are top ten in the league. He's not Tom Brady, but he's the least of Philly's problems right now.

 
The Eagles are supposed to be tough.

I don't know if Chip Kelly is your guy but I would give him one more year to find a Quarterback to fit his system. Notably, someone to get Agholor the ball.

Bradford doesn't have it, imo.
was this an old post from October that you forgot to hit send?Bradford has looked better every game and his numbers over the last 7 games are top ten in the league. He's not Tom Brady, but he's the least of Philly's problems right now.
Yup and who is available that is better? Quite honestly they were lucky to even get him. Top 10-15 QBs are typically locked up.

 
Despite loss, Eagles' Sam Bradford shows he's a winner

Updated: December 21, 2015 — 3:01 AM EST

by Sam Donnellon, Daily News Sports Columnist. @samdonnellon

HE LAID there flat on his back, motionless, the air out of his body, the air out of the crowd at Lincoln Financial Field too.

At another time - say, earlier this season - such a sight might have been met with indifference from some, enthusiasm by others, nervous anticipation by all. But that was before we saw what Mark Sanchez could do with a year of this offense under his belt.

And it was before we saw what Sam Bradford could do with half of that, without the fear of re-injury haunting his head. There was none of that now as he stuck in there to convert a third-and-13 with a strike to Jordan Matthews over the middle, two Arizona blitzers engulfing him just after the release, more than 500 pounds collapsing on him as he struck the cold turf.

This was early in Sunday night's 40-17 loss to Arizona, a loss that meant little in this season of anomalies except for this: Bradford is making the plays elite quarterbacks make, and playing with a toughness and resilience his injury history belies, winning over the crowd the hardest way possible, the way a Roman gladiator would.

In the end, Bradford's numbers reflected the gritty, if uneven performance of his entire team. Forty one pass attempts, 361 yards, two touchdown passes and two ugly picks, one returned for a touchdown.

In the end, he was hardly the reason they lost and not amazing enough for them to win, but he sure left a lot of good thought for the future in the suggestion box. He completed one clutch throw as he was driven to the ground at the back of the end zone, and completed the Eagles' longest touchdown pass in five years, a 78-yard bomb to Matthews, as he was again driven to the ground violently.

A quarterback who had spent much of this season as the focal point of civic frustration with this team had evolved over the previous few weeks as the best reason to hold onto hope. Drops and penalties along the line have continued to sabotage drives and held down scores, but until that first pick, Bradford had eliminated many of the mistakes that hounded his first half, and had become, of late, wonderfully productive on these low-percentage third-down plays, taking more than his share of punishment along the way.

"I think we did some really good things," said Bradford, sounding beat up and tired. "That was a really good defense we played tonight. I think they're top-five in the league in total defense. We made some plays. It's not like they shut us down all night. We just had too many self-inflicted wounds to do anything."

So there was Bradford halfway through the first quarter Sunday night, a battle winner but possibly out of this and all remaining wars. A concussion and shoulder injury had already forced him from two games this season, and it was logical to assume from his immobility that this hit produced a recurrence of one or both.

But here's what we're learning about the guy Chip Kelly picked up for what now amounts to - with Nick Foles riding the pine in St. Louis - a second-round pick. He's tough. He's resilient. And if you give him just enough time and catch the catchable balls and don't fumble and block legally, he may just yet deserve that franchise tag at year's end.

And so, after a few minutes that seemed like hours, Bradford rose slowly to his feet as the Linc crowd rose quickly to theirs. He remained out for exactly one play, and two plays later was popped again as he delivered a pass to Zach Ertz at the goal line that was broken up violently.

Later in the game, passing from the back of his end zone, Bradford was buried again by 287-pound tackle Ed Stinson as he delivered a 22-yard strike to Josh Huff. That began a long promising third-quarter drive with the Eagles trailing by 13, a drive that ended when Arizona's Markus Golden blitzed from Bradford's blind side and violently separated him and the ball as he looked downfield.

He wasn't perfect. The pick-6 was an awful ball and it pushed Arizona's lead to 37-10 late in the third quarter. But that play was followed by a bomb to Matthews, the kind of throw that has been at the crux of criticism directed at Bradford this season. Again, Bradford delivered the ball with a blitzer - this time linebacker Alex Okafor - about to pile drive him to the ground. Again the ball was on the money, hitting Matthews in stride for a 78-yard touchdown - by far his longest touchdown pass of the season.

And the Eagles' longest since 2010.

That's the real silver lining from Sunday night's loss and the weeks leading up to it. Yes, the Eagles are still in it, their playoff fate determined by how they fare over the final two games. But the excitement comes from the real possibility that, amid a season full of misjudging personnel,

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You can't put the 200+ rushing on the secondary though. That was embarrassing.
Some of it you can. They couldn't tackle.
If the RB is getting to your secondary, your front 7 have failed anyway.
Our LBs were very poor last night. Particularly Kendricks and Alonso. It's now clear how much Jordan Hicks meant to this run defense IMO, and his injury was more significant than I realized.

 
The more I digest it, the more frustrating last nights loss was. Arizona is good. Probably top 3 in the league but we weren't even close. If John Brown doesn't drop 3 passes right in his hands, its most likely 24-10 at the half and maybe more since one was the very first play of the game.

We didn't even compete in a pretty important game. And what's worse WR got injured during it. Washington like them or not, is playing pretty good right now. They're getting good QB play AND they're scoring points. I don't like our defense's jekyl and Hyde style against them.

 
The more I digest it, the more frustrating last nights loss was. Arizona is good. Probably top 3 in the league but we weren't even close. If John Brown doesn't drop 3 passes right in his hands, its most likely 24-10 at the half and maybe more since one was the very first play of the game.

We didn't even compete in a pretty important game. And what's worse WR got injured during it. Washington like them or not, is playing pretty good right now. They're getting good QB play AND they're scoring points. I don't like our defense's jekyl and Hyde style against them.
And if Mathews could have gained a half yard on the fourth down, it was very likely 17-17 at the half. The game ended up getting out of hand. The defense was putrid. But I liked seeing that we have beaten New England, played a full competitive game with Carolina, and played a pretty-much dead even half of football with Arizona. If Maxwell and Rowe are out, I doubt we beat Washington. They're barely average as is, and their backups are much worse. Like Mighty Mice stated, I had no idea how much we were going to miss Jordan Hicks. We're likely to make Alfred Morris look good again.

 
The more I digest it, the more frustrating last nights loss was. Arizona is good. Probably top 3 in the league but we weren't even close. If John Brown doesn't drop 3 passes right in his hands, its most likely 24-10 at the half and maybe more since one was the very first play of the game.

We didn't even compete in a pretty important game. And what's worse WR got injured during it. Washington like them or not, is playing pretty good right now. They're getting good QB play AND they're scoring points. I don't like our defense's jekyl and Hyde style against them.
I don't know that I agree that we weren't even close. There was a couple points in the game where we had a great chance to be right back in the game and just didn't make the plays. Obviously the drive before the half was huge but we had a few other where someone made a key drop on a catchable pass or we had a fumble.

I think Washington win big Saturday Night.

Just some random stuff:

Jason Peters cant get to guard fast enough

All the knocks on Bradfords health and you didn't hear much about how tough he is. I cant tell you how many times it looks like he gets destroyed stepping into a throw knowing he is going to get drilled. Look at the Matthews TD pass as an example. That's a big-time throw. Another is the 3rd and 13 from our 3 when he steps into it and delivers a good ball to Huff for the first down.

We need a good receiving option so bad. One good one would open up so many things for our team.

I hope Agholor is learning something from these reps. He is just invisible otherwise

I have no issues with going for it on 4th down. You had 2 healthy CB's on the roster, playing against a team you know can score in what was essentially a meaningless game. I DO have a problem with the call. It cant be all finesse all the time and than try to get tough yards against a D like theirs. We need a big package (that's what she said) similar to what GB and NE have for those yards in cold games

How does the D look so jekel and hyde? Coaching. Kiss Billy Davis good-bye. He has done and absolutely awful job this season

Kiko Alonso actually makes Casey Matthews look good. I don't know that I have seen a softer NFL Lber

The Demarco Murray signing will be one we look back on for many, many years. It was just that bad of a deal. With that said I have to credit Chip for not doubling down by feeling like he HAS to play him. He's been bad and bad players shouldn't play no matter how much they make

 
Alonso is just invisible.He seems to get swallowed up on blocks every running play. I'm not sure what it is - is he just not sure what to do, so he just lets the guy block him out of the play? Does he over commit? Kendricks at least is around the ball and making plays, it just seems like Alonso is never in position to make a stop.

 
I'm pretty convinced at this point we need to keep Bradford around next season. Don't see him as the problem at all on this team. he had some costly turnovers, yes - that wasn't good, but that happens. In general, he did a good job, and has been doing a good job. Our passing game averaged the same yards per play as the cards did - those turnovers and the inability to stop the run were the difference, and what got this out of hand.

Don't really care if we make the playoffs this year - we're not in the same class as Arizona and Carolina. I hope we do, but it's not a big deal. We need to have a solid draft though - get some young talent that can contribute. Best available with our #1, but we need to come away with some OL. If there's a good OT, that would be huge.

 
Alonso is just invisible.He seems to get swallowed up on blocks every running play. I'm not sure what it is - is he just not sure what to do, so he just lets the guy block him out of the play? Does he over commit? Kendricks at least is around the ball and making plays, it just seems like Alonso is never in position to make a stop.
He's afraid of contact and wants no part of it at all. He's a chaser

 
There is no shame in losing to the Cardinals. They are an extremely good team.

Overall, I don't like the outlook for the Eagles, though. I don't know how you give that ball to Matthews and not Murray early in the game when they were still hanging in there.

They really shouldn't have been "hanging in there" because a couple of easy drops save the Eagles a lot of points that the Cardinals could have hung on them early.

Chip doesn't seem to be making the smartest decisions and the Alonso trade might be the worst. His opinion on what they needed at RB was flat out wrong. A commitment to Shady and Sproles was all they needed so they had what they needed and let it get away and don't use it correctly. Alonso has shown to not be what they thought they were getting OR they are seriously misusing him and not putting him in the correct positions to be effective. Whichever it is, it comes back to Chip.

The Eagles can not win with that secondary. They have been outclassed by the better teams all year. The win against the Patriots was a lot of unusual plays all going their way and catching the Patriots in a state of flux. The Patriots have been off by their standards as they adjust to all the offensive injuries so I can't measure the Eagles by that game. I look at Carolin and last night and they appear completely outplayed.

 
I mean, you can't give Murray the ball on the 4th and 1 play. He hadn't logged a carry yet-if you sub him in at that point the entire world knows you are going to him. I don't mind the call personally-its why we were excited when Chip came here-knowing that he'd make the ballsy calls. Frankly, I think that part of his game hasn't lived up to the hype. At that point, when a TD ties it, know the team on the other side is going to score points, you gotta do it.

 
There is no shame in losing to the Cardinals. They are an extremely good team.

Overall, I don't like the outlook for the Eagles, though. I don't know how you give that ball to Matthews and not Murray early in the game when they were still hanging in there. You give the ball to Matthews because he's better, that's it.

They really shouldn't have been "hanging in there" because a couple of easy drops save the Eagles a lot of points that the Cardinals could have hung on them early. This goes both ways as well. We had quite a few drives where we killed ourselves with stupid plays. Its happens and bad teams make more bad plays than good teams but all teams make mistakes

Chip doesn't seem to be making the smartest decisions and the Alonso trade might be the worst. His opinion on what they needed at RB was flat out wrong. A commitment to Shady and Sproles was all they needed so they had what they needed and let it get away and don't use it correctly. Alonso has shown to not be what they thought they were getting OR they are seriously misusing him and not putting him in the correct positions to be effective. Whichever it is, it comes back to Chip. You're looking at that trade wrong. The alternative was to just cut McCoy since Buffalo stated they would not part with a pick and they were the only team interested in McCoy

The Eagles can not win with that secondary. They have been outclassed by the better teams all year. The win against the Patriots was a lot of unusual plays all going their way and catching the Patriots in a state of flux. The Patriots have been off by their standards as they adjust to all the offensive injuries so I can't measure the Eagles by that game. I look at Carolin and last night and they appear completely outplayed. I disagree here as well. The secondary seemed fine when the pass rush was there. The pass rush and blitzing stopped and the secondary started to look bad again. Im not saying the secondary is Seattle but theyre not a bad secondary. What you saw last night was and that will happen to any team when youre down your top 3 CB's
 
We need to hang on to Bradford and get rid of Billy Davis to start the offseason. Add talent through the draft and FA and hope this WR trio develops over time. We just don't have the talent to compete with top teams but in this division we aren't far out.

 
I don't think anyone anticipated Alonso being this ineffective. He was electric his rookie year, then hurt the following. I think the perception of the trade going so horribly wrong is because we brought in Murray, who has also been a disappointment. If we had just done the McCoy/Alonso trade, then brought in a rookie RB instead, I don't think people would be so upset.

 
I don't think anyone anticipated Alonso being this ineffective. He was electric his rookie year, then hurt the following. I think the perception of the trade going so horribly wrong is because we brought in Murray, who has also been a disappointment. If we had just done the McCoy/Alonso trade, then brought in a rookie RB instead, I don't think people would be so upset.
Plus I think you give him a year after the injury and see if there is any improvement next year.

 
I don't know about Alonzo. Some mentioned it today on the radio and when you watch the TV you can see it. He looks to avoid contact. He gets near a pile and then gets blocked. He doesn't seem to be slow getting to the ball. He just Turtles up at contact. The guy may have lost his will to play.

 
Also, the league wussing out on suspending OBJ the ret of the year. Can't afford to have him out that last game and miss highlight reel.

I love the people on the radio that think we win this week and we've won the division. Sigh

 
Coming around on the Foles and a 2nd for Bradford trade as the season unfolds. With Nick Foles benched and ineffective in St. Louis, it really only amounts to a second-round pick for a potentially good starting QB. And, I'm glad we were not the team that signed Nick to an extension. Big fan from his time here, but it all just fell apart this season.

Sam's a quiet leader. There have been several comments from guys in the locker room that he's been more vocal lately and been lifting the team's energy. He's getting more mobile, too and taking off an a handful of runs the last few weeks that were never there the fist half of the season. He seems much more comfortable overall, and that's to be expected. Beyond that, he's tough and can take a pop. He got hammered last night and stood tall in the pocket and threw darts. He paid the price on the long TD, the 3rd and 13 throw to Huff, and many other plays. Did you hear the crowd cheer when he came back in after missing only one play?

Drafting or signing an RT and moving Johnson to LT and Peters to LG next year would help keep him upright, and I'm starting to see that if you give Bradford time and catch the ball, he can be a better than average NFL starter. Easily worth a 2nd.

 
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Coming around on the Foles and a 2nd for Bradford trade as the season unfolds. With Nick Foles benched and ineffective in St. Louis, it really only amounts to a second-round pick for a potentially good starting QB. And, I'm glad we were not the team that signed Nick to an extension. Big fan from his time here, but it all just fell apart this season.

Sam's a quiet leader. There have been several comments from guys in the locker room that he's been more vocal lately and been lifting the team's energy. He's getting more mobile, too and taking off an a handful of runs the last few weeks that were never there the fist half of the season. He seems much more comfortable overall, and that's to be expected. Beyond that, he's tough and can take a pop. He got hammered last night and stood tall in the pocket and threw darts. He paid the price on the long TD, the 3rd and 13 throw to Huff, and many other plays. Did you hear the crowd cheer when he came back in after missing only one play?

Drafting or signing an RT and moving Johnson to LT and Peters to LG next year would help keep him upright, and I'm starting to see that if you give Bradford time and catch the ball, he can be a better than average NFL starter. Easily worth a 2nd.
yup, and considering Foles might end up getting cut, it looks like a great trade.
 
Coming around on the Foles and a 2nd for Bradford trade as the season unfolds. With Nick Foles benched and ineffective in St. Louis, it really only amounts to a second-round pick for a potentially good starting QB. And, I'm glad we were not the team that signed Nick to an extension. Big fan from his time here, but it all just fell apart this season.

Sam's a quiet leader. There have been several comments from guys in the locker room that he's been more vocal lately and been lifting the team's energy. He's getting more mobile, too and taking off an a handful of runs the last few weeks that were never there the fist half of the season. He seems much more comfortable overall, and that's to be expected. Beyond that, he's tough and can take a pop. He got hammered last night and stood tall in the pocket and threw darts. He paid the price on the long TD, the 3rd and 13 throw to Huff, and many other plays. Did you hear the crowd cheer when he came back in after missing only one play?

Drafting or signing an RT and moving Johnson to LT and Peters to LG next year would help keep him upright, and I'm starting to see that if you give Bradford time and catch the ball, he can be a better than average NFL starter. Easily worth a 2nd.
yup, and considering Foles might end up getting cut, it looks like a great trade.
I'm on board, let him keep developing in the system. He's not old.....6 years younger that Eli, 7 than Romo, and Cousins is less than a year younger than him. Still need a good number 2 but who doesn't.

 
The more I digest it, the more frustrating last nights loss was. Arizona is good. Probably top 3 in the league but we weren't even close. If John Brown doesn't drop 3 passes right in his hands, its most likely 24-10 at the half and maybe more since one was the very first play of the game.

We didn't even compete in a pretty important game. And what's worse WR got injured during it. Washington like them or not, is playing pretty good right now. They're getting good QB play AND they're scoring points. I don't like our defense's jekyl and Hyde style against them.
And if Mathews could have gained a half yard on the fourth down, it was very likely 17-17 at the half. The game ended up getting out of hand. The defense was putrid. But I liked seeing that we have beaten New England, played a full competitive game with Carolina, and played a pretty-much dead even half of football with Arizona. If Maxwell and Rowe are out, I doubt we beat Washington. They're barely average as is, and their backups are much worse. Like Mighty Mice stated, I had no idea how much we were going to miss Jordan Hicks. We're likely to make Alfred Morris look good again.
Some people forget who are losses are to. We have 5 losses this year with Bradford as our QB for the game. 3 of them were in his first 4 games in 2 years, where he was learning the system and knocking off the rust. The other 2 of them were to the 2 best teams in the NFC. We are clearly not elite and not deserving of a Super Bowl if we can't hang with those elite teams, but since he's hit his stride in week 5, we haven't even seen him lose a game to a bad, average, or even a just pretty good team.

We get a couple of those big tests coming up. Let's hope our D can hold it close enough, but our offense is clicking pretty good right now.

 
There is no shame in losing to the Cardinals. They are an extremely good team.

Overall, I don't like the outlook for the Eagles, though. I don't know how you give that ball to Matthews and not Murray early in the game when they were still hanging in there.

They really shouldn't have been "hanging in there" because a couple of easy drops save the Eagles a lot of points that the Cardinals could have hung on them early.

Chip doesn't seem to be making the smartest decisions and the Alonso trade might be the worst. His opinion on what they needed at RB was flat out wrong. A commitment to Shady and Sproles was all they needed so they had what they needed and let it get away and don't use it correctly. Alonso has shown to not be what they thought they were getting OR they are seriously misusing him and not putting him in the correct positions to be effective. Whichever it is, it comes back to Chip.

The Eagles can not win with that secondary. They have been outclassed by the better teams all year. The win against the Patriots was a lot of unusual plays all going their way and catching the Patriots in a state of flux. The Patriots have been off by their standards as they adjust to all the offensive injuries so I can't measure the Eagles by that game. I look at Carolin and last night and they appear completely outplayed.
Watching Shady's antics and hearing him talk this year makes me not even remotely think that was a bad trade. He likely would have been cut anyways. If we got a 6th rounder back for him I would have been happy. Disappointed Kiko isn't doing better for sure, but he was just a bonus anyways.

Agree with point 2. But I'm starting to believe that it's the scheme and not the players. We keep bringing in new guys at CB all the time. Big names, no names, rookies, seasoned vets. Nothing seems to work back there and I don't know why.

 
Also, the league wussing out on suspending OBJ the ret of the year. Can't afford to have him out that last game and miss highlight reel.

I love the people on the radio that think we win this week and we've won the division. Sigh
It's huge for us that he's out next week. I'd rather play the Giants once they're eliminated then play them with a shot to get into the playoffs. Coughlin may sit ODB the last game anyways. Doubtful, but you never know. And without much to play for, not sure how they will show up. They had nothing to play for in week 17 last year, and their defense just went to ####. ODB/Randle did drop like 350 yards on us alone, but I think a deflated Giants team is beatable.

 
Coming around on the Foles and a 2nd for Bradford trade as the season unfolds. With Nick Foles benched and ineffective in St. Louis, it really only amounts to a second-round pick for a potentially good starting QB. And, I'm glad we were not the team that signed Nick to an extension. Big fan from his time here, but it all just fell apart this season.

Sam's a quiet leader. There have been several comments from guys in the locker room that he's been more vocal lately and been lifting the team's energy. He's getting more mobile, too and taking off an a handful of runs the last few weeks that were never there the fist half of the season. He seems much more comfortable overall, and that's to be expected. Beyond that, he's tough and can take a pop. He got hammered last night and stood tall in the pocket and threw darts. He paid the price on the long TD, the 3rd and 13 throw to Huff, and many other plays. Did you hear the crowd cheer when he came back in after missing only one play?

Drafting or signing an RT and moving Johnson to LT and Peters to LG next year would help keep him upright, and I'm starting to see that if you give Bradford time and catch the ball, he can be a better than average NFL starter. Easily worth a 2nd.
yup, and considering Foles might end up getting cut, it looks like a great trade.
:hifive:

 
The more I digest it, the more frustrating last nights loss was. Arizona is good. Probably top 3 in the league but we weren't even close. If John Brown doesn't drop 3 passes right in his hands, its most likely 24-10 at the half and maybe more since one was the very first play of the game.

We didn't even compete in a pretty important game. And what's worse WR got injured during it. Washington like them or not, is playing pretty good right now. They're getting good QB play AND they're scoring points. I don't like our defense's jekyl and Hyde style against them.
And if Mathews could have gained a half yard on the fourth down, it was very likely 17-17 at the half. The game ended up getting out of hand. The defense was putrid. But I liked seeing that we have beaten New England, played a full competitive game with Carolina, and played a pretty-much dead even half of football with Arizona. If Maxwell and Rowe are out, I doubt we beat Washington. They're barely average as is, and their backups are much worse. Like Mighty Mice stated, I had no idea how much we were going to miss Jordan Hicks. We're likely to make Alfred Morris look good again.
Some people forget who are losses are to. We have 5 losses this year with Bradford as our QB for the game. 3 of them were in his first 4 games in 2 years, where he was learning the system and knocking off the rust. The other 2 of them were to the 2 best teams in the NFC. We are clearly not elite and not deserving of a Super Bowl if we can't hang with those elite teams, but since he's hit his stride in week 5, we haven't even seen him lose a game to a bad, average, or even a just pretty good team.We get a couple of those big tests coming up. Let's hope our D can hold it close enough, but our offense is clicking pretty good right now.
Bradford is moving the ball pretty good but this offense is far from clicking. We've scored more than 30 pts on offense only once this year. We had 9 games last year with 30 or more and 8 in 2013.

 
Also, the league wussing out on suspending OBJ the ret of the year. Can't afford to have him out that last game and miss highlight reel.

I love the people on the radio that think we win this week and we've won the division. Sigh
It's huge for us that he's out next week. I'd rather play the Giants once they're eliminated then play them with a shot to get into the playoffs. Coughlin may sit ODB the last game anyways. Doubtful, but you never know. And without much to play for, not sure how they will show up. They had nothing to play for in week 17 last year, and their defense just went to ####. ODB/Randle did drop like 350 yards on us alone, but I think a deflated Giants team is beatable.
You're acting like we have a good team. Who's to say ours shows up?

 
Also, the league wussing out on suspending OBJ the ret of the year. Can't afford to have him out that last game and miss highlight reel.

I love the people on the radio that think we win this week and we've won the division. Sigh
It's huge for us that he's out next week. I'd rather play the Giants once they're eliminated then play them with a shot to get into the playoffs. Coughlin may sit ODB the last game anyways. Doubtful, but you never know. And without much to play for, not sure how they will show up. They had nothing to play for in week 17 last year, and their defense just went to ####. ODB/Randle did drop like 350 yards on us alone, but I think a deflated Giants team is beatable.
You're acting like we have a good team. Who's to say ours shows up?
You act like it's your job to reply to every post with some form of disagreement. "Good" is relative. I think we have a better then average team but a team that is extremely far from being elite.

 
Also, the league wussing out on suspending OBJ the ret of the year. Can't afford to have him out that last game and miss highlight reel.

I love the people on the radio that think we win this week and we've won the division. Sigh
Yeah Mikey miss kept saying that an Eagles win this week coupled with a Giants loss would get the Eagles in. Can he really be that ignorant?

 
Also, the league wussing out on suspending OBJ the ret of the year. Can't afford to have him out that last game and miss highlight reel.

I love the people on the radio that think we win this week and we've won the division. Sigh
It's huge for us that he's out next week. I'd rather play the Giants once they're eliminated then play them with a shot to get into the playoffs. Coughlin may sit ODB the last game anyways. Doubtful, but you never know. And without much to play for, not sure how they will show up. They had nothing to play for in week 17 last year, and their defense just went to ####. ODB/Randle did drop like 350 yards on us alone, but I think a deflated Giants team is beatable.
You're acting like we have a good team. Who's to say ours shows up?
You act like it's your job to reply to every post with some form of disagreement. "Good" is relative. I think we have a better then average team but a team that is extremely far from being elite.
I just don't get people who think the Ginats game is a gimme but Dallas will give Washington trouble. Like it or not, Washington is a more balanced team than us right now.

 
Also, the league wussing out on suspending OBJ the ret of the year. Can't afford to have him out that last game and miss highlight reel.

I love the people on the radio that think we win this week and we've won the division. Sigh
Yeah Mikey miss kept saying that an Eagles win this week coupled with a Giants loss would get the Eagles in. Can he really be that ignorant?
He can and he will. Don't you tell him he can't be ignorant.

 
The more I digest it, the more frustrating last nights loss was. Arizona is good. Probably top 3 in the league but we weren't even close. If John Brown doesn't drop 3 passes right in his hands, its most likely 24-10 at the half and maybe more since one was the very first play of the game.

We didn't even compete in a pretty important game. And what's worse WR got injured during it. Washington like them or not, is playing pretty good right now. They're getting good QB play AND they're scoring points. I don't like our defense's jekyl and Hyde style against them.
And if Mathews could have gained a half yard on the fourth down, it was very likely 17-17 at the half. The game ended up getting out of hand. The defense was putrid. But I liked seeing that we have beaten New England, played a full competitive game with Carolina, and played a pretty-much dead even half of football with Arizona. If Maxwell and Rowe are out, I doubt we beat Washington. They're barely average as is, and their backups are much worse. Like Mighty Mice stated, I had no idea how much we were going to miss Jordan Hicks. We're likely to make Alfred Morris look good again.
Some people forget who are losses are to. We have 5 losses this year with Bradford as our QB for the game. 3 of them were in his first 4 games in 2 years, where he was learning the system and knocking off the rust. The other 2 of them were to the 2 best teams in the NFC. We are clearly not elite and not deserving of a Super Bowl if we can't hang with those elite teams, but since he's hit his stride in week 5, we haven't even seen him lose a game to a bad, average, or even a just pretty good team.We get a couple of those big tests coming up. Let's hope our D can hold it close enough, but our offense is clicking pretty good right now.
Bradford is moving the ball pretty good but this offense is far from clicking. We've scored more than 30 pts on offense only once this year. We had 9 games last year with 30 or more and 8 in 2013.
All I'm saying, is that we are a different team now that our QB is comfortable and I give the first 4 games to being rusty/unfamiliar with the system. Since then, in games he has been our QB, we are scoring 27 points per game. 4th in the NFL only behind Carolina, New England, and Arizona.

I know our D has put up some of those points, and it seems selective to take out the Sanchez games. But I think we are a different team with Sanchez in at QB. I don't think we have the 4th best offense in the NFL by any means, but I'd say we're somewhat clicking now.

 
Also, the league wussing out on suspending OBJ the ret of the year. Can't afford to have him out that last game and miss highlight reel.

I love the people on the radio that think we win this week and we've won the division. Sigh
It's huge for us that he's out next week. I'd rather play the Giants once they're eliminated then play them with a shot to get into the playoffs. Coughlin may sit ODB the last game anyways. Doubtful, but you never know. And without much to play for, not sure how they will show up. They had nothing to play for in week 17 last year, and their defense just went to ####. ODB/Randle did drop like 350 yards on us alone, but I think a deflated Giants team is beatable.
You're acting like we have a good team. Who's to say ours shows up?
You act like it's your job to reply to every post with some form of disagreement. "Good" is relative. I think we have a better then average team but a team that is extremely far from being elite.
I just don't get people who think the Ginats game is a gimme but Dallas will give Washington trouble. Like it or not, Washington is a more balanced team than us right now.
No game in the NFL is a gimme. I'm very worried about this week, Washington looks good right now. That being said, they're worse then 2 of the last 3 teams we've faced by a pretty hefty margin.

 
Deamon said:
Insein said:
Deamon said:
The more I digest it, the more frustrating last nights loss was. Arizona is good. Probably top 3 in the league but we weren't even close. If John Brown doesn't drop 3 passes right in his hands, its most likely 24-10 at the half and maybe more since one was the very first play of the game.

We didn't even compete in a pretty important game. And what's worse WR got injured during it. Washington like them or not, is playing pretty good right now. They're getting good QB play AND they're scoring points. I don't like our defense's jekyl and Hyde style against them.
And if Mathews could have gained a half yard on the fourth down, it was very likely 17-17 at the half. The game ended up getting out of hand. The defense was putrid. But I liked seeing that we have beaten New England, played a full competitive game with Carolina, and played a pretty-much dead even half of football with Arizona. If Maxwell and Rowe are out, I doubt we beat Washington. They're barely average as is, and their backups are much worse. Like Mighty Mice stated, I had no idea how much we were going to miss Jordan Hicks. We're likely to make Alfred Morris look good again.
Some people forget who are losses are to. We have 5 losses this year with Bradford as our QB for the game. 3 of them were in his first 4 games in 2 years, where he was learning the system and knocking off the rust. The other 2 of them were to the 2 best teams in the NFC. We are clearly not elite and not deserving of a Super Bowl if we can't hang with those elite teams, but since he's hit his stride in week 5, we haven't even seen him lose a game to a bad, average, or even a just pretty good team.We get a couple of those big tests coming up. Let's hope our D can hold it close enough, but our offense is clicking pretty good right now.
Bradford is moving the ball pretty good but this offense is far from clicking. We've scored more than 30 pts on offense only once this year. We had 9 games last year with 30 or more and 8 in 2013.
All I'm saying, is that we are a different team now that our QB is comfortable and I give the first 4 games to being rusty/unfamiliar with the system. Since then, in games he has been our QB, we are scoring 27 points per game. 4th in the NFL only behind Carolina, New England, and Arizona.I know our D has put up some of those points, and it seems selective to take out the Sanchez games. But I think we are a different team with Sanchez in at QB. I don't think we have the 4th best offense in the NFL by any means, but I'd say we're somewhat clicking now.
Actually the offense is scoring 22 ppg not including the first 4 games, 24 if you take out Sanchez 2 starts. Which is good for about 18th in the league.
 
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Deamon said:
Insein said:
Deamon said:
The more I digest it, the more frustrating last nights loss was. Arizona is good. Probably top 3 in the league but we weren't even close. If John Brown doesn't drop 3 passes right in his hands, its most likely 24-10 at the half and maybe more since one was the very first play of the game.

We didn't even compete in a pretty important game. And what's worse WR got injured during it. Washington like them or not, is playing pretty good right now. They're getting good QB play AND they're scoring points. I don't like our defense's jekyl and Hyde style against them.
And if Mathews could have gained a half yard on the fourth down, it was very likely 17-17 at the half. The game ended up getting out of hand. The defense was putrid. But I liked seeing that we have beaten New England, played a full competitive game with Carolina, and played a pretty-much dead even half of football with Arizona. If Maxwell and Rowe are out, I doubt we beat Washington. They're barely average as is, and their backups are much worse. Like Mighty Mice stated, I had no idea how much we were going to miss Jordan Hicks. We're likely to make Alfred Morris look good again.
Some people forget who are losses are to. We have 5 losses this year with Bradford as our QB for the game. 3 of them were in his first 4 games in 2 years, where he was learning the system and knocking off the rust. The other 2 of them were to the 2 best teams in the NFC. We are clearly not elite and not deserving of a Super Bowl if we can't hang with those elite teams, but since he's hit his stride in week 5, we haven't even seen him lose a game to a bad, average, or even a just pretty good team.We get a couple of those big tests coming up. Let's hope our D can hold it close enough, but our offense is clicking pretty good right now.
Bradford is moving the ball pretty good but this offense is far from clicking. We've scored more than 30 pts on offense only once this year. We had 9 games last year with 30 or more and 8 in 2013.
All I'm saying, is that we are a different team now that our QB is comfortable and I give the first 4 games to being rusty/unfamiliar with the system. Since then, in games he has been our QB, we are scoring 27 points per game. 4th in the NFL only behind Carolina, New England, and Arizona.I know our D has put up some of those points, and it seems selective to take out the Sanchez games. But I think we are a different team with Sanchez in at QB. I don't think we have the 4th best offense in the NFL by any means, but I'd say we're somewhat clicking now.
Actually the offense is scoring 22 ppg not including the first 4 games, 24 if you take out Sanchez 2 starts. Which is good for about 18th in the league.
Link? That isn't true.

22 OFFENSIVE PPG is not 18th in the league. 22ppg is 18th in the nfl INCLUDING defensive scoring, which you conveniently didn't include for us.

 
i don't get the Kiko hate either. it was a few weeks ago, but maybe it was Seth Joyner or some former LB with the Eagles. It was after maybe the Detroit game when everybody hated everything about the Eagles. Seth (maybe it was Byron?) came out and said that everyone needs to give Kiko a bit of a break. he said he had a similar injury to what Kiko had and busted his butt to come back the next year, and he played at best 70% of what he could. i also think people are underestimating the mystery injury Kiko had after the first few weeks when there were rumors he would be out for the year. my guess is he came back too early and is playing not only not fully recovered from the off-season injury (and not taking reps with the team for majority of his time here), but also learning the scheme and tendencies of this team defense.

as for bradford, i agree he is looking better which is refreshing. However, i still do not have confidence with the Eagles down 7-10 points in the 4th, that the offense can put together a drive and bring the Eagles back. Not blaming all of that on Bradford because there is a whole lot of weird going on with this team with dumb penalties with the OL and continuous drops weekly. Glad Bradford does look better though, and i hope the last 2 weeks of the season he can continue to improve. i would love to have faith in him like i had in McNabb (whether that was smart or justified, who knows?)

 
i tell you the one that i absolutely can not understand is Carolina being number 2 on that list with 29.5. Outside of Cam, i think the Eagles are more talented at amolst every single position (maybe Olsen is better), but Carolina just steamrolls. i bet them in the beginning of the year to be the lowest scoring team and could not have been more wrong. just can't figure out how they put up so many points week in and week out

 

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