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Footballguy
They were doing a pretty good job of managing Carson for awhile, glad he's off the leash.
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Official 2016 GOP thread: Is it really going to be Donald Trump?? (2 Viewers)
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urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Yeah, I am firmly in the "I hate the GOP" camp now.
Fennis
Footballguy
Welcome, here's your button and welcome packet. Let us know if you have any questions.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I collect political buttons. My collection rocks. I have "I like Ike" pins, some FDR stuff, things like that. I don't want this button.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
The inmates are running the asylum and the leadership doesn't deserve the title. They need to be blowed up, fracture, and rebuild themselves from the ground up.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Can't disagree with any of that. Was curious if it was one thing that caused you to finally jump but it seems just a slow buildup of crazy that caused you to be done. It's a shame they can't have grownups leading their fights but hopefully that'll change by the next Presidential election (2020).
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
Yankee what are your thoughts on Trump? Think I already know but figured I'd ask instead of assuming.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Let's say Republicans lose this election. What's their next move? Do Cruz and his cronies gain more power?
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I prefer more process than policy in the sense that there is never going to be a party that I agree with 100% on policy because I don't think our government functions correctly to begin with. But I always fell more with the GOP in a majority of issues. Now, I find myself more and more thinking that I am Jeff Daniels from Newsroom on HBO when it comes to being a republican and I can't stand the stupid running my party anymore. The whole lot of them are still fighting for recognition and respect like they are in high school and the pretty girl didn't talk to them once.
Grow the eff up.
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
Republicans lose USA becomes another Mexico and we won't have another Republican president in our lifetime.
The Commish
Footballguy
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
How do you mean, another Mexico? Our citizens will flee the country for greener pastures? We'll speak Spanish? Overrun by drug cartels?
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
The Commish
Footballguy
Equal opportunity hate for any/all the yahoos that have been ddriving this country into the ground the past X decades. Set X at whatever level you see fit.What's the whole way?You're halfway there GB
RBM
Footballguy
I'd suggest it depends on who wins the GOP nomination, and how badly the election goes. For example, if Cruz is the nominee and gets spanked in the general and they lose a significant number of seats in the House, one would think he and his cronies lose power. However, if Bush or Kasich gets the nomination, lose the general and lose seats, Cruz's group can argue that "they need to return to the base".
Eephus
Footballguy
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
That character was created by an extreme leftist. To say you identify with him makes you a pawn for propaganda
The General
Footballguy
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
So who else is going to watch the Democratic Debate to help them fall asleep?
timschochet
Footballguy
Yeah this is a long standing NRA lie. The people who claim it have no understanding of the history.
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
Joe Summer
Footballguy
The Nazis didn't "disarm" the Jews, since Jews didn't own very many weapons anyway (thanks to Germany's strict anti-gun regulations in 1919 and 1928, long before the Nazis took over).But if you want to look to a real-life example of your NRA fantasy, just read up on the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, where thousands of armed Jews resisted the Nazi attempt at genocide.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
There was not enough Jews (under 1% of German population IIRC) and those sympathetic to Jews, even if armed, to really have been able to made a difference. Nazi propaganda would have used it as yet another reason why the Jewish 'problem' needed a 'final solution'. Though a truly armed Jewish population within Nazi Germany would have taken more resources away from the fighting fronts and helped to shorten the war.
The Jews learned their lesson though and hence Israel will never allow itself to be a victim.
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/10/09/ben-carson-right-yes-jews-guns-holocaust/
The Nazi genocide against Jews relied on two factors: a population that, understandably, believed no sane or rational force on the planet, let alone the highly civilized Germans, would systematically murder civilians for no discernable purpose; and disarming that population before they could recognize the truth. Gun control had a long history in Germany long before the Holocaust. In 1920, Germany essentially seized all firearms. In 1928, they liberalized their gun laws but still required licenses to purchase weapons (and banned gypsies from obtaining such licenses); until 1938, the law would be used as an excuse to confiscate weapons from Jews.
In 1933, upon Hitler’s assumption of power, “non-Nazis throughout Germany were disarmed as ‘Communists,’” according to legal scholar Stephen Halbrook; simultaneously, Nazis were armed. The Nazis banned ownership of any “military” firearms by non-Nazi civilians, but naturally put special emphasis on seizing any guns from Jews. Handgun importation was banned.
Finally, in 1938, the Nazis enacted the Weapons Law, which banned weapons ownership without a license, just like the 1928 law; the law itself did not explicitly deny licenses to Jews. But the law did ban Jews from firearms businesses, and further required full government-available records of all gun sales. After Kristallnacht, the Nazis utilized the law to ban guns from all Jews after utilizing the media to blame “armed Jews” for unrest. The order issued by the government on November 10, 1938 read: “Persons who, according to the Nurnberg law, are regarded as Jews, are forbidden to possess any weapon. Violators will be condemned to a concentration camp and imprisoned for a period of up to 20 years.” In fact, all weapons were banned from Jews, including stabbing and cutting weapons, as well as swords, students’ rapiers, clubs, horsewhips, brass knuckles, and hunting knives. “The Jews must be warned,” the regulations said, “that they should interpret the new ordinance and the already existing Weapons Law strictly.” Foreign Jews were made subject to the regulations as well. The law was used as an immediate excuse to round up and ship off Jews to concentration camps.
Today’s Nazi enablers are yesterday’s Nazi enablers. And they have a strange preference for government disarmament of the populace.
Resistance to tyranny is a virtue, today and yesterday. Those who stand in the way of such virtue side with evil. And the left consistently sides with evil.
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timschochet
Footballguy
Breitbart is so stupid. I'm not sure there is a worse, more inaccurate political website on the net. I suppose World Net Daily.
Fennis
Footballguy
that's just not true either. What ended the war was Germany opening an eastern front, a minor insurrection inside Germany would have played no role.
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squistion
Footballguy
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
Carson is the one if the best things going for Trump. Trump looks legit next to him. He is crazy, really can't believe he was a brain surgeon.
What point is he even trying to make with the Jews gun thing? It's just another odd thing the weirdo has said.
He is the number 2 and Trump is the 1, nice work GOP voters.
What point is he even trying to make with the Jews gun thing? It's just another odd thing the weirdo has said.
He is the number 2 and Trump is the 1, nice work GOP voters.
ffldrew
Footballguy
I think Carson has a crazy right-wing uncle who sends him the crazy e-mail/facebook post dujour and he just repeats it.
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
This relates to people attacking Brietbart
Drudge On corporate control of news outlets: “I just wish there was more media that was trailblazing and independent, and this, to me, is a big danger right now in this setup. You’ve got these corporations like the New York Times and Amazon now with the Washington Post, and Time Warner, and–all of them seem to be the same. This is what’s frightening. And there’s so much news in the course of the day, and the reason I think the Drudge Report is interesting every morning is it’s not exactly the same as you would see elsewhere. And that’s because I’m not involved with other people.”
Drudge On political television: “Why are we not allowed to have a Gore Vidal-William Buckley anymore in the media scene. Do you see who they hire–do you see who’s hired for the shows? How dull they are? Dull! Dull as dishwater… Where are the flamboyant characters? This is what America desperately needs right now: flamboyant, intellectual characters who can cut different ways. And that’s just what I’m missing. I’ve been fortunate enough to meet some of the greats of this generation. And I’ve got to tell you, they are there. It’s just they are suppressed and hidden and they’re not hired the way Gore Vidal and Buckley were back [in the] previous generation. They were not afraid of ideas. This generation is frightened of ideas, or at least it’s being suppressed.”
Drudge On Jones’ debate with Piers Morgan: “[That] ended up being the most dramatic moment on CNN in a generation. That’s why they need to hire people away from 6th Avenue just to look at the scene. I remember once saying to Charlie Rose, ‘why don’t you have more conservatives on?’ And he says, ‘Who?’ And there’s a whole list of them. Why are they limiting themselves, because you would say it’s a contrived plan–to limit. But I still think to make provocative programming, you’ve got to have different points of view a la the Buckley and Gore Vidal. Where is that in this culture? It’s missing. I get it from InfoWars. I get it from other places, too–mainly talk radio. Talk radio seems to be the driving force of this culture, at least in spoken word. I’m not getting it from television that much; I’m just not. Where are the intriguing television shows? You could say Homeland, you can say some of these others. Okay, yes. But where are the real dynamic things that are pushing?”
Drudge Will media institutions successfully censor alternative viewpoints? “It all depends if the sick Americans get unsick. If you get well, you’re not that interested in what Anderson Cooper is saying about things. You’re just not, I’m sorry. I don’t mean to be insulting. if you’re sick, you find comfort in that.”
Drudge On threats to free speech: “If they get enough sick people to elect it, the demographics will take care of themselves… so it’s already happening. I’m just warning this country that, yes, don’t get into this false sense that you are an individual when you’re on Facebook. No you’re not. You’re a pawn in their scheme.”
Drudge On corporate control of news outlets: “I just wish there was more media that was trailblazing and independent, and this, to me, is a big danger right now in this setup. You’ve got these corporations like the New York Times and Amazon now with the Washington Post, and Time Warner, and–all of them seem to be the same. This is what’s frightening. And there’s so much news in the course of the day, and the reason I think the Drudge Report is interesting every morning is it’s not exactly the same as you would see elsewhere. And that’s because I’m not involved with other people.”
Drudge On political television: “Why are we not allowed to have a Gore Vidal-William Buckley anymore in the media scene. Do you see who they hire–do you see who’s hired for the shows? How dull they are? Dull! Dull as dishwater… Where are the flamboyant characters? This is what America desperately needs right now: flamboyant, intellectual characters who can cut different ways. And that’s just what I’m missing. I’ve been fortunate enough to meet some of the greats of this generation. And I’ve got to tell you, they are there. It’s just they are suppressed and hidden and they’re not hired the way Gore Vidal and Buckley were back [in the] previous generation. They were not afraid of ideas. This generation is frightened of ideas, or at least it’s being suppressed.”
Drudge On Jones’ debate with Piers Morgan: “[That] ended up being the most dramatic moment on CNN in a generation. That’s why they need to hire people away from 6th Avenue just to look at the scene. I remember once saying to Charlie Rose, ‘why don’t you have more conservatives on?’ And he says, ‘Who?’ And there’s a whole list of them. Why are they limiting themselves, because you would say it’s a contrived plan–to limit. But I still think to make provocative programming, you’ve got to have different points of view a la the Buckley and Gore Vidal. Where is that in this culture? It’s missing. I get it from InfoWars. I get it from other places, too–mainly talk radio. Talk radio seems to be the driving force of this culture, at least in spoken word. I’m not getting it from television that much; I’m just not. Where are the intriguing television shows? You could say Homeland, you can say some of these others. Okay, yes. But where are the real dynamic things that are pushing?”
Drudge Will media institutions successfully censor alternative viewpoints? “It all depends if the sick Americans get unsick. If you get well, you’re not that interested in what Anderson Cooper is saying about things. You’re just not, I’m sorry. I don’t mean to be insulting. if you’re sick, you find comfort in that.”
Drudge On threats to free speech: “If they get enough sick people to elect it, the demographics will take care of themselves… so it’s already happening. I’m just warning this country that, yes, don’t get into this false sense that you are an individual when you’re on Facebook. No you’re not. You’re a pawn in their scheme.”
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timschochet
Footballguy
So when the cut and paster gets criticized for cut and pasting Breitbart, he defends himself by cut and pasting Matt Drudge. Brilliant.
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
You're one of those sick people that Drudge was talking about.
timschochet
Footballguy
Wait- are these actually your own words? I'm stunned. Wasn't Ann Coulter available?
CBusAlex
Footballguy
squistion
Footballguy
It is documented that Breitbart has run with false stories in the past based on the rumors and unproven facts (just some examples): http://m.snopes.com/2015/06/14/breitbart-pear-flag/, http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/shariatexas.asp Anyone who links to them, instantly loses what little credibility they have.
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
So every media outlet that called George Zimmerman a white guy can't be trusted anymore? I would agree with that TBH
squistion
Footballguy
Odd that you haven't complained about all the Republicans in the Hillary thread and asked them to leave.
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