Official 2016 GOP thread: Is it really going to be Donald Trump?? (3 Viewers)

[NorvilleBarnes]

Post Iowa PPP poll

25 Trump

21 Cruz

21 Rubio

11 Carson

5 Bush

5 Kasich

5 Paul (out)

3 Christie

3 Fiorinna

1 Gilmore

0 Santorum (out)

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Post Iowa PPP poll

25 Trump

21 Cruz

21 Rubio

11 Carson

5 Bush

5 Kasich

5 Paul (out)

3 Christie

3 Fiorinna

1 Gilmore

0 Santorum (out)

Yeah Trump's going down, maybe 3rd.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Post Iowa PPP poll

25 Trump

21 Cruz

21 Rubio

11 Carson

5 Bush

5 Kasich

5 Paul (out)

3 Christie

3 Fiorinna

1 Gilmore

0 Santorum (out)

Gilmore up Infinity % since last pole

-QG

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Post Iowa PPP poll

25 Trump

21 Cruz

21 Rubio

11 Carson

5 Bush

5 Kasich

5 Paul (out)

3 Christie

3 Fiorinna

1 Gilmore

0 Santorum (out)

Yeah Trump's going down, maybe 3rd.

A nine point drop. Not good.

 

[Jeremy]

Post Iowa PPP poll

25 Trump

21 Cruz

21 Rubio

11 Carson

5 Bush

5 Kasich

5 Paul (out)

3 Christie

3 Fiorinna

1 Gilmore

0 Santorum (out)

Yeah Trump's going down, maybe 3rd.

Unless he throws up all over himself in the next few weeks, Rubio will have this in the bag by Super Tuesday. Now that the Trump supporters have had their chance to vent, most will fall in line with the most electable candidate very quickly, IMO.

 

[Rove!]

Kathleen McKinley ‏@KatMcKinley
NYT: Why Cuz/Rubio not historic "Neither Mr. Cruz nor Mr. Rubio meets conventional expectations of how Latino pols are supposed to behave"

This is so AWFUL.

NYT - "Obama not really black either".

it's racist

 

[TobiasFunke]

Kathleen McKinley ‏@KatMcKinley
NYT: Why Cuz/Rubio not historic "Neither Mr. Cruz nor Mr. Rubio meets conventional expectations of how Latino pols are supposed to behave"

This is so AWFUL.

NYT - "Obama not really black either".

it's racist

Can you link the actual tweet/article? Your link just goes to some MILF's twitter page.

ETA: Never mind, I googled it. As expected it's a silly misrepresentation of the actual column (just one guy, not the Times editorial staff BTW), which talks about why their win/3rd place showing are not being "celebrated as historic, or at least worth a headline or two." The idea is that Latinos do not embrace them, thus no celebration. The column then goes on cite a number of examples of the Latino community rejecting them, including a Univision anchor and the country's largest Spanish-language newspaper, and then goes into more nuanced stuff about "Latino political culture."

So, that woman is full of ####. Nice-looking, though.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Rubio=Zero chance in National IMO

I don't know if any of them can actually win but Rubio will get crushed. And it does look like he has a much better chance of being the GOP nominee than many thought a few weeks ago. Who could be excited about him? I'm a Floridian and cannot stand the guy.

 

[SIDA!]

Who could be excited about him?

People who like boots with heels and "foam parties."

Just sayin...

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Rubio=Zero chance in National IMO

I don't know if any of them can actually win but Rubio will get crushed. And it does look like he has a much better chance of being the GOP nominee than many thought a few weeks ago. Who could be excited about him? I'm a Floridian and cannot stand the guy.

‘Morning Joe’ Hosts Press Santorum to Name One Rubio Accomplishment — They Start Laughing When He Answers

“I’m just asking you to name one accomplishment that Marco Rubio — but list one accomplishment. Just one. Just one that Marco achieved. Maybe a bill that he wrote. Maybe a moment in a committee,” Scarborough said back.

Brzezinski added, “Jeb Bush ran Florida. Donald Trump built a company. Marco Rubio…finish the sentence.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/02/04/morning-joe-hosts-press-santorum-to-name-one-rubio-accomplishment-they-start-laughing-when-he-answers/

Wow. He actually made that worse "Hey the last year . . . I mean the last FOUR years no one did anything." What a great tag line. Vote Rubio - no one else did anything either.

 

[3C's]

Poor Carly #sadface http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/mitt-romney-carly-fiorina-debate/index.html

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Poor Carly #sadface http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/mitt-romney-carly-fiorina-debate/index.html

She should counter program a rally for vets.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Poor Carly #sadface http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/mitt-romney-carly-fiorina-debate/index.html

She should counter program a rally for vets.

I would just like her up there to say:

GOD HAS SMITE MY FACE AND MY BUSINESS ACUMEN BUT I STILL RAN FOR PRESIDENT, #####ES!

 

[Binky The Doormat]

Poor Carly #sadface http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/mitt-romney-carly-fiorina-debate/index.html

She should counter program a rally for vets.

I would just like her up there to say:

GOD HAS SMITE MY FACE AND MY BUSINESS ACUMEN BUT I STILL RAN FOR PRESIDENT, #####ES!

#### that ####, may she die in hell.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Poor Carly #sadface http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/mitt-romney-carly-fiorina-debate/index.html

She should counter program a rally for vets.

I would just like her up there to say:

GOD HAS SMITE MY FACE AND MY BUSINESS ACUMEN BUT I STILL RAN FOR PRESIDENT, #####ES!

It would be kind of funny if they put her in the undercard debate. Alone.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Poor Carly #sadface http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/mitt-romney-carly-fiorina-debate/index.html

She should counter program a rally for vets.

I would just like her up there to say:

GOD HAS SMITE MY FACE AND MY BUSINESS ACUMEN BUT I STILL RAN FOR PRESIDENT, #####ES!

It would be kind of funny if they put her in the undercard debate. Alone.

lol

Then ABC should have a downstream font with

Carly Fiorina

___________________

Even Huckabee gave up!

 

[RBM]

Poor Carly #sadface http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/mitt-romney-carly-fiorina-debate/index.html

She should counter program a rally for vets.

I would just like her up there to say:GOD HAS SMITE MY FACE AND MY BUSINESS ACUMEN BUT I STILL RAN FOR PRESIDENT, #####ES!

It would be kind of funny if they put her in the undercard debate. Alone.

Gilmore is still out there.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

I wonder if Scot Walker regrets getting out so early.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I wonder if Scot Walker regrets getting out so early.

Always room for the 50th best governor IMO.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

No wait, I forgot Rick Snyder. Walker will have to settle for 49th!

 

[timschochet]

I know I'm a day late but that Jeb "please clap" thing deserves talking about. It may be the single most saddest, most pathetic moment I can ever recall for a Presidential campaign.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I know I'm a day late but that Jeb "please clap" thing deserves talking about. It may be the single most saddest, most pathetic moment I can ever recall for a Presidential campaign.

The weirdest thing to me is how these moderates keep attacking Rubio and not Trump. Jeb's ad blitz in Iowa may have cost Rubio 2nd there.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Kathleen McKinley ‏@KatMcKinley
NYT: Why Cuz/Rubio not historic "Neither Mr. Cruz nor Mr. Rubio meets conventional expectations of how Latino pols are supposed to behave"

This is so AWFUL.

NYT - "Obama not really black either".

it's racist

Can you link the actual tweet/article? Your link just goes to some MILF's twitter page.

ETA: Never mind, I googled it. As expected it's a silly misrepresentation of the actual column (just one guy, not the Times editorial staff BTW), which talks about why their win/3rd place showing are not being "celebrated as historic, or at least worth a headline or two." The idea is that Latinos do not embrace them, thus no celebration. The column then goes on cite a number of examples of the Latino community rejecting them, including a Univision anchor and the country's largest Spanish-language newspaper, and then goes into more nuanced stuff about "Latino political culture."

So, that woman is full of ####. Nice-looking, though.

Featured political blogger for The Houston Chron for 10 yrs.

DEFYING most polls and predictions, a Latino won the Republican Iowa caucuses, and another Latino came in third. Together, they won more than half the vote.

With Senator Ted Cruz taking nearly 28 percent of the vote and Senator Marco Rubio getting 23 percent, each vastly surpassed the results for any other Latino candidate in any previous United States presidential contest.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/04/opinion/campaign-stops/ted-cruz-and-marco-rubio-made-history-didnt-you-hear.html?_r=0

Three of the top four vote getters in GOP Iowa were not white.

70% of the vote went to two Hispanics and an African American.

This gets framed the way the headline writers want to write it.

For the first time ever a presidential primary was won by a Latino. That's a factual headline.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

I know I'm a day late but that Jeb "please clap" thing deserves talking about. It may be the single most saddest, most pathetic moment I can ever recall for a Presidential campaign.

I can't wait for the NH Primaries. Surely Jeb will drop out if he does poorly there.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Kathleen McKinley ‏@KatMcKinley
NYT: Why Cuz/Rubio not historic "Neither Mr. Cruz nor Mr. Rubio meets conventional expectations of how Latino pols are supposed to behave"

This is so AWFUL.

NYT - "Obama not really black either".

it's racist

Can you link the actual tweet/article? Your link just goes to some MILF's twitter page.

ETA: Never mind, I googled it. As expected it's a silly misrepresentation of the actual column (just one guy, not the Times editorial staff BTW), which talks about why their win/3rd place showing are not being "celebrated as historic, or at least worth a headline or two." The idea is that Latinos do not embrace them, thus no celebration. The column then goes on cite a number of examples of the Latino community rejecting them, including a Univision anchor and the country's largest Spanish-language newspaper, and then goes into more nuanced stuff about "Latino political culture."

So, that woman is full of ####. Nice-looking, though.

Featured political blogger for The Houston Chron for 10 yrs.

DEFYING most polls and predictions, a Latino won the Republican Iowa caucuses, and another Latino came in third. Together, they won more than half the vote.

With Senator Ted Cruz taking nearly 28 percent of the vote and Senator Marco Rubio getting 23 percent, each vastly surpassed the results for any other Latino candidate in any previous United States presidential contest.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/04/opinion/campaign-stops/ted-cruz-and-marco-rubio-made-history-didnt-you-hear.html?_r=0

Three of the top four vote getters in GOP Iowa were not white.

70% of the vote went to two Hispanics and an African American.

This gets framed the way the headline writers want to write it.

For the first time ever a presidential primary was won by a Latino. That's a factual headline.

Yes it is, but nobody writes headlines like that.

And yes, when Obama would reach some particular accomplishment (primary, nomination, win the general) people made a big deal of him being the first black man to do it, but that's because the black community was almost universally proud of him and embraced him. The writer's point was that the Latino community is not proud of Cruz and Rubio and does not embrace them because they've betrayed principles important to that community, and that's part of the reason why nobody made a big deal of their barrier-breaking primary results.

 

[joffer]

To head their new task force on executive overreach, the GOP selected "cantaloupe calves" Steve King

 

[culdeus]

Jeb and jeb pacs still have 100m in the bank. When he finally quits what happens to it?

 

[Todem]

Jeb and jeb pacs still have 100m in the bank. When he finally quits what happens to it?

Cocaine and hookers my friend.

 

[Righetti]

Jeb and jeb pacs still have 100m in the bank. When he finally quits what happens to it?

Cocaine and hookers my friend.

is W joining the campaign staff?

 

[SIDA!]

Kathleen McKinley ‏@KatMcKinley
NYT: Why Cuz/Rubio not historic "Neither Mr. Cruz nor Mr. Rubio meets conventional expectations of how Latino pols are supposed to behave"

This is so AWFUL.

NYT - "Obama not really black either".

it's racist

Can you link the actual tweet/article? Your link just goes to some MILF's twitter page.

ETA: Never mind, I googled it. As expected it's a silly misrepresentation of the actual column (just one guy, not the Times editorial staff BTW), which talks about why their win/3rd place showing are not being "celebrated as historic, or at least worth a headline or two." The idea is that Latinos do not embrace them, thus no celebration. The column then goes on cite a number of examples of the Latino community rejecting them, including a Univision anchor and the country's largest Spanish-language newspaper, and then goes into more nuanced stuff about "Latino political culture."

So, that woman is full of ####. Nice-looking, though.

Featured political blogger for The Houston Chron for 10 yrs.

DEFYING most polls and predictions, a Latino won the Republican Iowa caucuses, and another Latino came in third. Together, they won more than half the vote.

With Senator Ted Cruz taking nearly 28 percent of the vote and Senator Marco Rubio getting 23 percent, each vastly surpassed the results for any other Latino candidate in any previous United States presidential contest.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/04/opinion/campaign-stops/ted-cruz-and-marco-rubio-made-history-didnt-you-hear.html?_r=0

Three of the top four vote getters in GOP Iowa were not white.

70% of the vote went to two Hispanics and an African American.

This gets framed the way the headline writers want to write it.

For the first time ever a presidential primary was won by a Latino. That's a factual headline.

Yes it is, but nobody writes headlines like that.

And yes, when Obama would reach some particular accomplishment (primary, nomination, win the general) people made a big deal of him being the first black man to do it, but that's because the black community was almost universally proud of him and embraced him. The writer's point was that the Latino community is not proud of Cruz and Rubio and does not embrace them because they've betrayed principles important to that community, and that's part of the reason why nobody made a big deal of their barrier-breaking primary results.

There is always a catch, some reason, or justification for those on the left to explain away double standards and hypocrisy.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Kathleen McKinley ‏@KatMcKinley
NYT: Why Cuz/Rubio not historic "Neither Mr. Cruz nor Mr. Rubio meets conventional expectations of how Latino pols are supposed to behave"

This is so AWFUL.

NYT - "Obama not really black either".

it's racist

Can you link the actual tweet/article? Your link just goes to some MILF's twitter page.

ETA: Never mind, I googled it. As expected it's a silly misrepresentation of the actual column (just one guy, not the Times editorial staff BTW), which talks about why their win/3rd place showing are not being "celebrated as historic, or at least worth a headline or two." The idea is that Latinos do not embrace them, thus no celebration. The column then goes on cite a number of examples of the Latino community rejecting them, including a Univision anchor and the country's largest Spanish-language newspaper, and then goes into more nuanced stuff about "Latino political culture."

So, that woman is full of ####. Nice-looking, though.

Featured political blogger for The Houston Chron for 10 yrs.

DEFYING most polls and predictions, a Latino won the Republican Iowa caucuses, and another Latino came in third. Together, they won more than half the vote.

With Senator Ted Cruz taking nearly 28 percent of the vote and Senator Marco Rubio getting 23 percent, each vastly surpassed the results for any other Latino candidate in any previous United States presidential contest.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/04/opinion/campaign-stops/ted-cruz-and-marco-rubio-made-history-didnt-you-hear.html?_r=0

Three of the top four vote getters in GOP Iowa were not white.

70% of the vote went to two Hispanics and an African American.

This gets framed the way the headline writers want to write it.

For the first time ever a presidential primary was won by a Latino. That's a factual headline.

Yes it is, but nobody writes headlines like that.

And yes, when Obama would reach some particular accomplishment (primary, nomination, win the general) people made a big deal of him being the first black man to do it, but that's because the black community was almost universally proud of him and embraced him. The writer's point was that the Latino community is not proud of Cruz and Rubio and does not embrace them because they've betrayed principles important to that community, and that's part of the reason why nobody made a big deal of their barrier-breaking primary results.

There is always a catch, some reason, or justification for those on the left to explain away double standards and hypocrisy.

The point is that there was no hypocrisy. The article was mischaracterized by the MILF blogger. It wasn't about how the media reported the event, it was about how the Latino community reacted to the event and why.

What, you want to tell minority communities how they have to feel and react to things? What kind of evil dictatorial 1984-esque government do you favor? Oh, right ....

 

[AnonymousBob]

I know I'm a day late but that Jeb "please clap" thing deserves talking about. It may be the single most saddest, most pathetic moment I can ever recall for a Presidential campaign.

His mom is now campaigning for him.

 

[SIDA!]

There is always a catch, some reason, or justification for those on the left to explain away double standards and hypocrisy.

The point is that there was no hypocrisy. The article was mischaracterized by the MILF blogger. It wasn't about how the media reported the event, it was about how the Latino community reacted to the event and why.

What, you want to tell minority communities how they have to feel and react to things? What kind of evil dictatorial 1984-esque government do you favor? Oh, right ....

The bias in the media is palpable. It is also one of the reasons why polling shows respect for the profession and negative views of the media have climbed significantly over the years.

Any time a minority is the first to do something that is political on the left or non political we hear about it until our ears bleed. Something with respect to minorities being a first when it comes to GOP politics and it is a virtual blackout. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why. It goes against the bias generally held by those working in the media.

The media (poll after poll) is demonstrably left of center. There are polls that show that there are 3xs as many Dems as GOP reporters, etc. And that is only because a huge chunk of the Dems proclaim themselves as "independents" which we know is bull####.

You had a Dem debate that was moderated by a political commentator with an outright bias in Maddow. Perfectly acceptable. I don't think I heard one mention of her tweak of the GOP about the question last night when she asked what department would you abolish (or create) at last night's debate.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the bias creep in on everything. You can't refer to illegal aliens as illegal aliens...they are undocumented immigrants. Whenever there is a black on white crime you seldom hear any mention of the possibility that it was a hate crime and you will seldom see any mention of the race of the victim(s) and the attacker(s).

It goes on and on. But, I am not going to spend my day arguing with you that there is leftwing bias in the media. Believe what you want.

 

[Righetti]

I know I'm a day late but that Jeb "please clap" thing deserves talking about. It may be the single most saddest, most pathetic moment I can ever recall for a Presidential campaign.

His mom is now campaigning for him.

this feels like the kid who is getting bullied in school having his mom show up to tell that mean boy to stop being so mean

 

[Righetti]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/construction-crane-collapses-manhattan-injures-2-article-1.2521130

 

[TobiasFunke]

There is always a catch, some reason, or justification for those on the left to explain away double standards and hypocrisy.

The point is that there was no hypocrisy. The article was mischaracterized by the MILF blogger. It wasn't about how the media reported the event, it was about how the Latino community reacted to the event and why.

What, you want to tell minority communities how they have to feel and react to things? What kind of evil dictatorial 1984-esque government do you favor? Oh, right ....

The bias in the media is palpable. It is also one of the reasons why polling shows respect for the profession and negative views of the media have climbed significantly over the years.

Any time a minority is the first to do something that is political on the left or non political we hear about it until our ears bleed. Something with respect to minorities being a first when it comes to GOP politics and it is a virtual blackout. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why. It goes against the bias generally held by those working in the media.

The media (poll after poll) is demonstrably left of center. There are polls that show that there are 3xs as many Dems as GOP reporters, etc. And that is only because a huge chunk of the Dems proclaim themselves as "independents" which we know is bull####.

You had a Dem debate that was moderated by a political commentator with an outright bias in Maddow. Perfectly acceptable. I don't think I heard one mention of her tweak of the GOP about the question last night when she asked what department would you abolish (or create) at last night's debate.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the bias creep in on everything. You can't refer to illegal aliens as illegal aliens...they are undocumented immigrants. Whenever there is a black on white crime you seldom hear any mention of the possibility that it was a hate crime and you will seldom see any mention of the race of the victim(s) and the attacker(s).

It goes on and on. But, I am not going to spend my day arguing with you that there is leftwing bias in the media. Believe what you want.

That's a cool rant that has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation or the article the conversation was about. The whole point was that the article had been misrepresented here as addressing the media reaction to Cruz's win when in fact it was addressing the reaction in the Latino community.

With every post I understand your support for Trump more and more. Last post it was an Orwellian desire to tell minorities how they should feel and react to things, now there's a total inability to remain on topic. Are we sure you're not him?

 

[Joe Summer]

With every post I understand your support for Trump more and more. Last post it was an Orwellian desire to tell minorities how they should feel and react to things, now there's a total inability to remain on topic. Are we sure you're not him?

You should know by now that this is just one giant troll job, trying to replicate the faux-Palin supporters from 2008. (S.I.D.A. = Statorama In a Different Alias?)

 

[TobiasFunke]

With every post I understand your support for Trump more and more. Last post it was an Orwellian desire to tell minorities how they should feel and react to things, now there's a total inability to remain on topic. Are we sure you're not him?

You should know by now that this is just one giant troll job, trying to replicate the faux-Palin supporters from 2008. (S.I.D.A. = Statorama In a Different Alias?)

Sure but I think there's some truth behind it, otherwise he wouldn't get so frustrated sometimes.

Also, lod01 and Busted Knucklers are doing the whole Trump voter parody thing way better. Hell Toupee is putting in some solid work too. The Trump Supporters Only thread is an absolute work of art.

 

[QuizGuy66]

So Christie abandoned his campaign for a Springsteen show. Just like he's abandoned his day job.

-QG

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Trump canceled an event in NH?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

To head their new task force on executive overreach, the GOP selected "cantaloupe calves" Steve King

The GOP (and all it entails) has now become thoroughly evil.

 

[SIDA!]

Trump canceled an event in NH?

I believe he flew home last night and due to weather can't fly back in. That is my understanding, anyway.

 

[SIDA!]

There is always a catch, some reason, or justification for those on the left to explain away double standards and hypocrisy.

The point is that there was no hypocrisy. The article was mischaracterized by the MILF blogger. It wasn't about how the media reported the event, it was about how the Latino community reacted to the event and why.

What, you want to tell minority communities how they have to feel and react to things? What kind of evil dictatorial 1984-esque government do you favor? Oh, right ....

The bias in the media is palpable. It is also one of the reasons why polling shows respect for the profession and negative views of the media have climbed significantly over the years.

Any time a minority is the first to do something that is political on the left or non political we hear about it until our ears bleed. Something with respect to minorities being a first when it comes to GOP politics and it is a virtual blackout. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why. It goes against the bias generally held by those working in the media.

The media (poll after poll) is demonstrably left of center. There are polls that show that there are 3xs as many Dems as GOP reporters, etc. And that is only because a huge chunk of the Dems proclaim themselves as "independents" which we know is bull####.

You had a Dem debate that was moderated by a political commentator with an outright bias in Maddow. Perfectly acceptable. I don't think I heard one mention of her tweak of the GOP about the question last night when she asked what department would you abolish (or create) at last night's debate.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the bias creep in on everything. You can't refer to illegal aliens as illegal aliens...they are undocumented immigrants. Whenever there is a black on white crime you seldom hear any mention of the possibility that it was a hate crime and you will seldom see any mention of the race of the victim(s) and the attacker(s).

It goes on and on. But, I am not going to spend my day arguing with you that there is leftwing bias in the media. Believe what you want.

That's a cool rant that has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation or the article the conversation was about. The whole point was that the article had been misrepresented here as addressing the media reaction to Cruz's win when in fact it was addressing the reaction in the Latino community.

With every post I understand your support for Trump more and more. Last post it was an Orwellian desire to tell minorities how they should feel and react to things, now there's a total inability to remain on topic. Are we sure you're not him?

I wasn't commenting on that discussion specifically. I was referring to your seeming blindness to the fact that Cruz' landmark victory received scant attention.

The fact is...the media has not covered Cruz' caucus victory with any fanfare or acknowledgement that he was the first Latino. I wasn't commenting on the reaction of the Latino community. If he was a Dem the response would have been markedly different.

It is a simple fact. The first Latino to ever win a caucus was Cruz. And the media response was crickets.

Minorities received more than 50% of the vote in a GOP primary/caucus and the media response was crickets.

Now...why do you think that is?

 

[TobiasFunke]

There is always a catch, some reason, or justification for those on the left to explain away double standards and hypocrisy.

The point is that there was no hypocrisy. The article was mischaracterized by the MILF blogger. It wasn't about how the media reported the event, it was about how the Latino community reacted to the event and why.

What, you want to tell minority communities how they have to feel and react to things? What kind of evil dictatorial 1984-esque government do you favor? Oh, right ....

The bias in the media is palpable. It is also one of the reasons why polling shows respect for the profession and negative views of the media have climbed significantly over the years.

Any time a minority is the first to do something that is political on the left or non political we hear about it until our ears bleed. Something with respect to minorities being a first when it comes to GOP politics and it is a virtual blackout. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why. It goes against the bias generally held by those working in the media.

The media (poll after poll) is demonstrably left of center. There are polls that show that there are 3xs as many Dems as GOP reporters, etc. And that is only because a huge chunk of the Dems proclaim themselves as "independents" which we know is bull####.

You had a Dem debate that was moderated by a political commentator with an outright bias in Maddow. Perfectly acceptable. I don't think I heard one mention of her tweak of the GOP about the question last night when she asked what department would you abolish (or create) at last night's debate.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the bias creep in on everything. You can't refer to illegal aliens as illegal aliens...they are undocumented immigrants. Whenever there is a black on white crime you seldom hear any mention of the possibility that it was a hate crime and you will seldom see any mention of the race of the victim(s) and the attacker(s).

It goes on and on. But, I am not going to spend my day arguing with you that there is leftwing bias in the media. Believe what you want.

That's a cool rant that has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation or the article the conversation was about. The whole point was that the article had been misrepresented here as addressing the media reaction to Cruz's win when in fact it was addressing the reaction in the Latino community.

With every post I understand your support for Trump more and more. Last post it was an Orwellian desire to tell minorities how they should feel and react to things, now there's a total inability to remain on topic. Are we sure you're not him?

I wasn't commenting on that discussion specifically. I was referring to your seeming blindness to the fact that Cruz' landmark victory received scant attention.

The fact is...the media has not covered Cruz' caucus victory with any fanfare or acknowledgement that he was the first Latino. I wasn't commenting on the reaction of the Latino community. If he was a Dem the response would have been markedly different.

It is a simple fact. The first Latino to ever win a caucus was Cruz. And the media response was crickets.

Minorities received more than 50% of the vote in a GOP primary/caucus and the media response was crickets.

Now...why do you think that is?

Because the Latino community doesn't care for and has largely rejected Cruz, as detailed in the article, and thus there was no sense of pride or accomplishment in that community to be documented?

Because all you need to do to win the Iowa caucuses in the crowded GOP race is garner enough support to fill just over half of the capacity of the University of Iowa's football stadium?

Because winning a primary generally is no major milestone? I don't remember any massive media coverage of Obama as the first black person to win a primary- I don't even remember what state it was, and for all I know he wasn't, maybe Jackson won one or something. Nor do I remember a single mention this week of how close Sanders came to becoming the first Jew to win a primary/caucus. I guess we'll find out next Wednesday if the dominant media narrative after Sanders' win is "first Jew ever to win a primary!" but until then maybe keep a lid on your vast media conspiracy theories.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

There is always a catch, some reason, or justification for those on the left to explain away double standards and hypocrisy.

The point is that there was no hypocrisy. The article was mischaracterized by the MILF blogger. It wasn't about how the media reported the event, it was about how the Latino community reacted to the event and why.

What, you want to tell minority communities how they have to feel and react to things? What kind of evil dictatorial 1984-esque government do you favor? Oh, right ....

The bias in the media is palpable. It is also one of the reasons why polling shows respect for the profession and negative views of the media have climbed significantly over the years.

Any time a minority is the first to do something that is political on the left or non political we hear about it until our ears bleed. Something with respect to minorities being a first when it comes to GOP politics and it is a virtual blackout. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why. It goes against the bias generally held by those working in the media.

The media (poll after poll) is demonstrably left of center. There are polls that show that there are 3xs as many Dems as GOP reporters, etc. And that is only because a huge chunk of the Dems proclaim themselves as "independents" which we know is bull####.

You had a Dem debate that was moderated by a political commentator with an outright bias in Maddow. Perfectly acceptable. I don't think I heard one mention of her tweak of the GOP about the question last night when she asked what department would you abolish (or create) at last night's debate.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the bias creep in on everything. You can't refer to illegal aliens as illegal aliens...they are undocumented immigrants. Whenever there is a black on white crime you seldom hear any mention of the possibility that it was a hate crime and you will seldom see any mention of the race of the victim(s) and the attacker(s).

It goes on and on. But, I am not going to spend my day arguing with you that there is leftwing bias in the media. Believe what you want.

That's a cool rant that has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation or the article the conversation was about. The whole point was that the article had been misrepresented here as addressing the media reaction to Cruz's win when in fact it was addressing the reaction in the Latino community.

With every post I understand your support for Trump more and more. Last post it was an Orwellian desire to tell minorities how they should feel and react to things, now there's a total inability to remain on topic. Are we sure you're not him?

I wasn't commenting on that discussion specifically. I was referring to your seeming blindness to the fact that Cruz' landmark victory received scant attention.

The fact is...the media has not covered Cruz' caucus victory with any fanfare or acknowledgement that he was the first Latino. I wasn't commenting on the reaction of the Latino community. If he was a Dem the response would have been markedly different.

It is a simple fact. The first Latino to ever win a caucus was Cruz. And the media response was crickets.

Minorities received more than 50% of the vote in a GOP primary/caucus and the media response was crickets.

Now...why do you think that is?

Because the Latino community doesn't care for and has largely rejected Cruz, as detailed in the article, and thus there was no sense of pride or accomplishment in that community to be documented?

Because all you need to do to win the Iowa caucuses in the crowded GOP race is garner enough support to fill just over half of the capacity of the University of Iowa's football stadium?

Because winning a primary generally is no major milestone? I don't remember any massive media coverage of Obama as the first black person to win a primary- I don't even remember what state it was, and for all I know he wasn't, maybe Jackson won one or something. Nor do I remember a single mention this week of how close Sanders came to becoming the first Jew to win a primary/caucus. I guess we'll find out next Wednesday if the dominant media narrative after Sanders' win is "first Jew ever to win a primary!" but until then maybe keep a lid on your vast media conspiracy theories.

I'm going to do something foolish and try to interject a point here.

I originally took the NYT piece to mean that the national mainstream press had not recognized Cruz's victory in Iowa as being historic because basically the writer - a USC professor - believed that ideology determines race and historicity.

Now, to me, that is an awful idea. Horrible. Cruz is every bit Latino or Hispanic as Obama is black or African-American, he deserves just as much recognition, though I can see the struggle of blacks in America is a bigger, more tragic or grander epic than that of Hispanics, ok (even if Obama himself did not emerge from that epic).

However I do see after reading Tobias' points that the professor is really talking about Jorge Ramos and left-leaning Hispanic press. Ok, I get that, it's maybe a good point. I'm not going to criticize Ramos for breaking his journalistic duty to objectivity to actively cheer for an elderly white woman over fellow Hispanics trying to achieve history. I do think the bigger point still exists though and frankly if journalists' ethnicity is a determinor to how they should react in writing headlines well then the onus on non-Hispanic editors and writers in the mainstream press, who have no such standing, to recognize Cruz's achievement is all the greater given that logic.

 

[timschochet]

Trump canceled an event in NH?

I believe he flew home last night and due to weather can't fly back in. That is my understanding, anyway.

Flew back home??Trump has quit the race!!!-Ted Cruz operatives.

 

[timschochet]

Tuesday night will finally answer the question if Donald a trump is for real.

I think he is and will win, but Im not sure.

 

[Righetti]

So Christie abandoned his campaign for a Springsteen show. Just like he's abandoned his day job.

-QG

So Christie abandoned his campaign for a Springsteen show. Just like he's abandoned his day job.

-QG

If the campaign event featured a buffet he would have had a hard choice

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Megyn Kelly on Jimmy Fallon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=8BP4mRzkrYs

- I think she was great, so composed and very professional. Kelly is one of the best in the business.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Tuesday night will finally answer the question if Donald a trump is for real.

I think he is and will win, but Im not sure.

He's still up 10 in today's poll