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***Official 2016 Presidential Race Thread*** Debate #3 TONIGHT! (1 Viewer)

Yeah, this is the subject of the James O'Keefe video, which I had been ignoring because it's James O'Keefe. But after watching Donna Brazille fumble her way through the interview by Megyn Kelly, I'm no longer inclined to dismiss it out of hand.
it 's the truth.

Lying, cheating, whatever it takes is now the mainstream.

 
If we're going to just concede that both of them are YUGE liars it's painfully obvious that Hillary is better at it.

 
Trump has that open border card so what does he do?  He talks about Hillary wanting to build a wall.

Really.  He is such a half-wit.

 
I liked how Trump tried to use Ginsburg.

It's the one thing Ginsburg has said in year's that Republicans agree with.

Either they don't know what you are talking about or they disagree with you.  Idiot.

 
awwww...timmy has a friend...now you're not the only one who terribly hacks the term "false equivalency"....two peas in a pod :lol:   
It's "false equivalence," not "false equivalency."  As such a huge practitioner of it I would think you would at least get the term right.  Weird!   
This shtick is Donald and Hillary all wrapped up into one...well done.  The pivot away from the point (very Hillary)  that I haven't attempted to equate anything to focus on the semantics that mean nothing (very Donald Trump).  Kinda wish I stuck around last night to see more :lol:  

 
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Yea. What was hos point? Hillary wants a wall and obama has deported more than any president in 50 years. How does that help him?
Because Hillary was saying how outlandish it is to build a wall and deport illegals...even though she favored building a "fence" and Obama has deported more people than any other president - something like 2.5 million if I remember correctly.

It shows her flip-flopping on the issues if it can be used for political fodder.

 
Because Hillary was saying how outlandish it is to build a wall and deport illegals...even though she favored building a "fence" and Obama has deported more people than any other president - something like 2.5 million if I remember correctly.

It shows her flip-flopping on the issues if it can be used for political fodder.
No.  It shows that there is a reasonable way to accomplish immigration reform that addresses the major concerns (and that Obama has been doing a good job) without uprooting families and fragmenting the country and a whole demographic. 

 
No.  It shows that there is a reasonable way to accomplish immigration reform that addresses the major concerns (and that Obama has been doing a good job) without uprooting families and fragmenting the country and a whole demographic. 
Definitely need to worry about not fragmenting the illegal immigrant demographic.  We need their votes.

 
Now imagine if any of the other Republicans had suggested that we build a fence instead of a wall during the primaries.

[trumpkins] IT'S NOT THE SAME! NOT EVEN CLOSE! PLUS IT JUST SOUNDS WEIRD TO CHANT "BUILD THAT FENCE!" [/trumpkins]

 
This, to me, is incredible. That Trump can even muster 20% of votes is an indictment of just how unlikable Hillary is, our frustrations with politicians, and the failure of our public education system. 
Anybody else but Trump running and Clinton may have had to drop out of the race and be replaced with all the corruption leaks. That Mrs. Clinton is going to win is almost incomprehensible to any logical person due to all her baggage. My 2 daughters are voting for the first time ever and they do not like Trump....but they despise Mrs. Clinton and view her as a despicable liar...so both are voting Johnson.  Of course Johnson has no chance but if any year a "good" third party candidate had a chance it would have been this year.

 
Now imagine if any of the other Republicans had suggested that we build a fence instead of a wall during the primaries.

[trumpkins] IT'S NOT THE SAME! NOT EVEN CLOSE! PLUS IT JUST SOUNDS WEIRD TO CHANT "BUILD THAT FENCE!" [/trumpkins]
It probably would have been more like, "See!  They agree with Trump!  They want a wall, fence, or whatever, but they haven't gotten it done.  Trump will get it built!"

 
Donald doesn't have a haymaker. Never had one. He's a tomato can.
Headed for the political equivalent of Palookaville after a knockout, semi-consciously picked up from the canvas like a limp rag doll, wheezing through smashed ribs and mumbling he got robbed of the title and wants to appeal the decision as he chokes on pieces of his broken, bloody teeth.

 
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:goodposting: If Hillary wins, The GOP and those that support Trump better hope he's antic's don't give the Senate and House back to the Dem's or we are all in for a world of hurt.
Oh, goodness, I couldn't agree more!  The country's economy historically struggles so with Democratic presidents in charge, the current Democrat in the Oval Office is wildly and historically unpopular, and the "world of hurt" provided by a Democratic Senate would include securing a liberal majority on the Supreme Court that would actually imperil the ability of corporations to control and influence daily life in this country, which would be terrible!

Or . . . wait . . . .    

 
I really hope that Trump kills the RNC this election.  Gives Hillary the needed votes to ram through the supreme court nominee.  Also, pull the RNC to the middle.  Maybe the RNC will realize that radicals are Killin their  party.  

 
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Oh, goodness, I couldn't agree more!  The country's economy historically struggles so with Democratic presidents in charge, the current Democrat in the Oval Office is wildly and historically unpopular, and the "world of hurt" provided by a Democratic Senate would include securing a liberal majority on the Supreme Court that would actually imperil the ability of corporations to control and influence daily life in this country, which would be terrible!

Or . . . wait . . . .    
Last time the Democrats controlled all 3 We got the wonderful ACA which is crashing and burning and taking the rest of us with it.

BTW.. Just so you know, I'd feel the same way if the Republicans were going to gain control of all 3.

Either Party in Full control puts me in this guys place :scared:

 
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I really hope that Trump kills the RNC this election.  Gives Hillary the needed votes to ram through the supreme court nominee.  Also, pull the RNC to the middle.  Maybe the RNC will realize that radicals are Killin their  party.  
I'm still going with my initial feelings that if/when Hillary wins, the current nominee for the Supreme Court will be approved as fast as they can.. The Republicans fully supported the nominee the last time he came up.

The only reason they haven't approved him is because Obama nominated him.. But 99.9% sure they are more worried what she'll nominate and sooner or later that open spot has to be filled.

If she wins and the Republicans keep control of the Senate and House and they don't approve him, then we easily could be looking at 2 to 4 years before we have a full court again. :oldunsure:

 
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I'm still going with my initial feelings that if/when Hillary wins, the current nominee for the Supreme Court will be approved as fast as they can.. The Republicans fully supported the nominee the last time he came up.

The only reason they haven't approved him is because Obama nominated him.. But 99.9% sure they are more worried what she'll nominate and sooner or later that open spot has to be filled.

If she wins and the Republicans keep control of the Senate and House and they don't approve him, then we easily could be looking at 2 to 4 years before we have a full court again. :oldunsure:
I really doubt this. It's been lost in the Presidential race fireworks, but Americans have been really pissed at Congress for the last few years -- the last approval rating I saw for Congress as a whole was 11% or something. And it's largely due to BS like refusing to even hold hearings on Garland.

 
I really doubt this. It's been lost in the Presidential race fireworks, but Americans have been really pissed at Congress for the last few years -- the last approval rating I saw for Congress as a whole was 11% or something. And it's largely due to BS like refusing to even hold hearings on Garland.
As I said, if they keep control and DON'T approve the current nominee, I just don't see Hillary nominating anyone that they would approve.. Thus it could be 2 years until the next election before anything happens as I don't see her comprising enough to nominate someone they would approve.. :oldunsure:

 
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