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Cousins in the 4th round. HUGE difference.
I mean they literally ended up trading a high 3rd round pick for a QB, when taking one 1st overall - it's not much of a stretch to think they would have still taken a QB if that traded pick had been in the 2nd round. Clearly they wanted a vet to pair with the rookie, and were willing to trade decent collateral to make it happen.
I spoke of this earlier, but spending a 3rd on Tyrod passes the smell test, especially since you might be able to resign him (no way Foles would stay to be Mayfield's backup in Cleveland).
And Dallas fans don't talk about their 5 rings that were won including the last one thats still on VHS?So last year.
People said this was a reason that NFL GMs weren't big on Signing Kaepernick. The difference is Nick doesn't rock the boat in anyway from clubhouse or media standpoint. He was always laser focused. I don't think you question a guys dedication who just won SB MVP though and also Nick is the type of guy who seems like a great teammate. He just knows Clevland wasn't a good situation for him. The reason Kaepernick gets ragged on about this is there's actual former teammates who apparently questioned his dedication and Vernon Davis and others left do to the babying the 49ers gave him. Nick was always dedicated and went through a pretty rough patch before Pederson talked him into coming back where his career began and it rejuvenated him. I only brought CK into this because it's the closes to questioning a guys dedication as I can remember about if a team should sign a guy or not.
I wouldn't trust anyone in Cleveland even the WRs. It seems guys are good till they go there. Plus I don't see what all the hoopla about Hue Jackson is. He's underwhelming and was pretty mediocre in his last HC gig.
If you believe the rumors about the fallout between Bill and Kraft then there's a theory that Bill sent Jimmy G to SF because he trusted Kyle Shanahan with Jimmys career. Remember Kyle's dad Mike and Bill are fairly close friends in case you didn't know. Some people thought it was weird NE only got basically the 43r overall pick because Bill was giving a discount to a friend he trusted. Plus I think he wanted to stick it to Kraft. I don't think you can compare what NE got for Garoppolo to what the Eagles could get to Foles as they are completely different circumstances overall.
Were not going to agree, but I will try one more time:
I appreciate your honesty. And yes it was a trap question to expose your blind hometown. You knew it was a trap and still jumped in headfirstIs this a trap? LOL.
No GM would prefer Foles over Dak longterm. It's not even close.
As far as the coaches, Garrett is a year removed from COY.
I love the Pederson is a guru narrative.
Given our history, it might be best to say the above is only my opinion & not meant to trigger Philly fans.
If it's a genuinely honest question, I gave you an honest answer.
If it was a trap, it wasn't a very good one, LOL. You need to do something much more obvious next time.I appreciate your honesty. And yes it was a trap question to expose your blind hometown. You knew it was a trap and still jumped in headfirst
There's no argument for me that could overcome using the 35th overall pick for Foles, who you expect to be a backup, on a rebuilding team no less, then turn around & take a QB at 1, especially since Foles will be a FA next season & you won't be able to resign him.
:knee slap: No but there are these really old people who still use that joke.And Dallas fans don't talk about their 5 rings that were won including the last one thats still on VHS?
I think there's a difference between Dallas fans from the Philly/NYC area (perhaps elsewhere as well) and those who are from the Dallas market. I know from my own experience that local Cowboys fans talk about their rings compared to Philly's lack of a championship constantly. And I mean every chance they get. And not just talk radio but in person.:knee slap: No but there are these really old people who still use that joke.And Dallas fans don't talk about their 5 rings that were won including the last one thats still on VHS?
Sounds like my kinda guy.Amused to Death said:
That dude is a putz.Amused to Death said:
Those old VHS tapes are probably now disintegrating and ruined tooGoBirds said:Poor Dallas fans, suffering through a long offseason staring at our trophy trying to remember what it was like.
Sounds no different then a guy I use to work with. He was fired after sexually harassing a female employee though.Amused to Death said:
Absolutely not. The Browns have been roasted and burned so much for taking a "franchise qb" too late (late first, 2nd, etc). There was no way they were making that mistake again. They were reportedly even considering going QB at 1 AND 4 to make sure they got it right. They clearly don't plan on having Baker start right away, so yes it would be worth pick 35 to have Foles under center for a year. He could learn from Foles, and Foles would help them win some games. At this point I think the "tank" is done, and they'd be much happier winning 5 games than 1 this year.
The 1 & 4 thing was pure media hype. Like you said, "reportedly".
It's probably about the same percentage in your thread. It just looks like more because 1% of 10 000 posts is a lot more than 1% of 100 posts.
This is something the Browns of the last 10 years would have done. Man, I'm glad you're not a GM.
I think they likely would've gone Chubb or Barkley at 1 if they had landed Foles. With them also having 4, Chubb or Barkley were much more likely to come off the board before Ward.
After they got Taylor of course not. But if they traded for foles at 35, then didn't take a new young franchise qb (you said yourself no way foles is a franchise qb), then that would have been awful. They got screwed on missing out on Carson, there was absolutely NO CHANCE IN HELL Cleve wasn't taking a QB at 1 or 4. None. They worked them all out, they've came out and said how torn they were on the two... you think after all that talk of QBs, scouting, etc, that they were just going to say "Naw, Foles is now our guy, let's not take a QB in the first"
Huh? That doesn't make any sense. They wouldn't have gone Chubb at 1 clearly (or they would have taken him at 4). Barkley? Sure, maybe. But again I highly doubt it. It was QB before the superbowl and QB after the superbowl.
They weren't taking Mayfield at 1 if they invested in the 35th overall pick, only to lose Foles the very next year.
"I will never not lie to you" hahhaa
You're confused. I'm simply saying they would go some combination of non-QBs at 1 & 4 if they invested the 35th overall in Foles.
They need someone to win games now. Foles could do that.
You've said "we'll agree to disagree" 5 times. Usually that means you're done talking. But with you its just the same thing over and over. You're wrong, move on.
No let’s muck up three more pages of the eagles thread about what we think the browns would have done at 1 and 4 if they had traded 35 for foles. Right on topic
I haven't gotten bent out of shape. Multiple posters in here have told you that all you do is rehash the same things over and over. You say you'll move on, then can't help yourself but come back in here and say the same thing again and again.
Drop it and get back to football.I haven't gotten bent out of shape. Multiple posters in here have told you that all you do is rehash the same things over and over. You say you'll move on, then can't help yourself but come back in here and say the same thing again and again.
LOL Who is this "we" that has tried with me? You're in the minority in here man. Unfortunately for such a thick skinned guy you're not really able to just move on from something despite people telling you that you're going in circles. WE have tried with you and it's hopeless. Back to your own thread you go.
