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*Official 2018 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles* - Tough way to go out. Magic finally gone. (1 Viewer)

And I’m not going to get into all of the Dallas stuff but how can anyone say they have a great scouting department? Look at the deal Dak is on right now and how can anyone say it’s not a travesty what they surrounded him with?! Absolutely awful job of surrounding him with talent while on a rookie deal. Inexcusable 

 
And I’m not going to get into all of the Dallas stuff but how can anyone say they have a great scouting department? Look at the deal Dak is on right now and how can anyone say it’s not a travesty what they surrounded him with?! Absolutely awful job of surrounding him with talent while on a rookie deal. Inexcusable 
Coming in peace - just a counter point.

I really don't understand this. I'm not saying we have the best front office but to say the Cowboys have not drafted well is not true either.  Please look at their history over the last 6-7 years. They have nailed almost all early round picks and have also found depth players in later rounds and also a starting QB in the 4th.  I personally believe with better coaching and slightly better QB (In the Romo years) play - that they could have another SB. Also, keep in mind they have been in cap hell the last 3-4 years.

Like all NFL teams - Dallas has some weaker positions and we are starting to see a change in philosophy which to be honest - is refreshing. Less focus on WR's (Star players), more focus on youth and depth and speed,

Offense - Dallas has a capable QB with a somewhat limited ceiling. A top 5 RB, who can be dominant at times. The O-line that was completely re-vamped. T Smith is healthy add in Connor with Fredbeard, Martin and Collins. We have a starting LT as our swing tackle.  I know-I know. Yes, there are no superstars at WR or TE.  It's not like you guys had a Julio/Beckham/Brown either though.  At TE - Rico, could be something - or could be a total bust. We have a couple guys you can play. 

Defense - We are rounding into shape imo. Vander Esch, Smith no brace this year, Irving, Lawrence, Charlton and some good young corners Lewis and Awuzie! We still have Sean Lee and some decent DLine rotation players.  I would say Safety is an opportunity to improve for sure.

The Cowboys are one of the youngest teams in the league, they have rid themselves of almost ALL bad contracts. They will have a TON of cap room next year -close to 70-80 million. I have not been optimistic for while with this team, but am seeing signs of this turning around. 

I get we Cowboy fans will have to bear the jokes of 2 playoffs wins - just like you guys had to deal with the empty trophy case jokes. It's Football and that's what makes it fun.  I get it's more fun to say Dallas sucks or Jerry this or we can't draft  - I just like it balanced with some analysis or forethought.

 
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Coming in peace - just a counter point.

I really don't understand this. I'm not saying we have the best front office but to say the Cowboys have not drafted well is not true either.  Please look at their history over the last 6-7 years. They have nailed almost all early round picks and have also found depth players in later rounds and also a starting QB in the 4th.  I personally believe with better coaching and slightly better QB (In the Romo years) play - that they could have another SB. Also, keep in mind they have been in cap hell the last 3-4 years.

Like all NFL teams - Dallas has some weaker positions and we are starting to see a change in philosophy which to be honest - is refreshing. Less focus on WR's (Star players), more focus on youth and depth and speed,

Offense - Dallas has a capable QB with a somewhat limited ceiling. A top 5 RB, who can be dominant at times. The O-line that was completely re-vamped. T Smith is healthy add in Connor with Fredbeard, Martin and Collins. We have a starting LT as our swing tackle.  I know-I know. Yes, there are no superstars at WR or TE.  It's not like you guys had a Julio/Beckham/Brown either though.  At TE - Rico, could be something - or could be a total bust. We have a couple guys you can play. 

Defense - We are rounding into shape imo. Vander Esch, Smith no brace this year, Irving, Lawrence, Charlton and some good young corners Lewis and Awuzie! We still have Sean Lee and some decent DLine rotation players.  I would say Safety is an opportunity to improve for sure.

The Cowboys are one of the youngest teams in the league, they have rid themselves of almost ALL bad contracts. They will have a TON of cap room next year -close to 70-80 million. I have not been optimistic for while with this team, but am seeing signs of this turning around. 

I get we Cowboy fans will have to bear the jokes of 2 playoffs wins - just like you guys had to deal with the empty trophy case jokes. It's Football and that's what makes it fun.  I get it's more fun to say Dallas sucks or Jerry this or we can't draft  - I just like it balanced with some analysis or forethought.
Wasting your breath/ keystrokes 

 
Wasting your breath/ keystrokes 
I've been around a long time.  Most of these guys actually don't hate me and allow me to post some constructive stuff.  I'm not much for trash talking or trolling in here. I'll be fine - thanks for your concern though :lmao:  .

 
Coming in peace - just a counter point.

I really don't understand this. I'm not saying we have the best front office but to say the Cowboys have not drafted well is not true either.  Please look at their history over the last 6-7 years. They have nailed almost all early round picks and have also found depth players in later rounds and also a starting QB in the 4th.  I personally believe with better coaching and slightly better QB (In the Romo years) play - that they could have another SB. Also, keep in mind they have been in cap hell the last 3-4 years.

Like all NFL teams - Dallas has some weaker positions and we are starting to see a change in philosophy which to be honest - is refreshing. Less focus on WR's (Star players), more focus on youth and depth and speed,

Offense - Dallas has a capable QB with a somewhat limited ceiling. A top 5 RB, who can be dominant at times. The O-line that was completely re-vamped. T Smith is healthy add in Connor with Fredbeard, Martin and Collins. We have a starting LT as our swing tackle.  I know-I know. Yes, there are no superstars at WR or TE.  It's not like you guys had a Julio/Beckham/Brown either though.  At TE - Rico, could be something - or could be a total bust. We have a couple guys you can play. 

Defense - We are rounding into shape imo. Vander Esch, Smith no brace this year, Irving, Lawrence, Charlton and some good young corners Lewis and Awuzie! We still have Sean Lee and some decent DLine rotation players.  I would say Safety is an opportunity to improve for sure.

The Cowboys are one of the youngest teams in the league, they have rid themselves of almost ALL bad contracts. They will have a TON of cap room next year -close to 70-80 million. I have not been optimistic for while with this team, but am seeing signs of this turning around. 

I get we Cowboy fans will have to bear the jokes of 2 playoffs wins - just like you guys had to deal with the empty trophy case jokes. It's Football and that's what makes it fun.  I get it's more fun to say Dallas sucks or Jerry this or we can't draft  - I just like it balanced with some analysis or forethought.
good post and good points.  just my two cents, but I think a lot of the backlash was due to the statement that the cowboys have the best front office in football.  Definitely stating they are the best screams of blind homerism.   stating they have one of the better front offices probably would have been received better, especially considering there isn't any qualitative way to measure best vs worst

 
good post and good points.  just my two cents, but I think a lot of the backlash was due to the statement that the cowboys have the best front office in football.  Definitely stating they are the best screams of blind homerism.   stating they have one of the better front offices probably would have been received better, especially considering there isn't any qualitative way to measure best vs worst
Fair - winning and losing in the NFL is a fine line though.  Literally coaching and QB play can make a huge difference.  I'm just saying their draft results have to be top 5 at least in the last few years. They aren't the train wreck that casual fans and ESPN make them out to be.

 
Cowboys roster is good, probably not as deep as ideal, which is why injuries have seemed to derail them more then other teams, but their front office certainly isn't bad.  Now let's move on from Cowboys discussion...

 
Coming in peace - just a counter point.

I really don't understand this. I'm not saying we have the best front office but to say the Cowboys have not drafted well is not true either.  Please look at their history over the last 6-7 years. They have nailed almost all early round picks and have also found depth players in later rounds and also a starting QB in the 4th.  I personally believe with better coaching and slightly better QB (In the Romo years) play - that they could have another SB. Also, keep in mind they have been in cap hell the last 3-4 years.

Like all NFL teams - Dallas has some weaker positions and we are starting to see a change in philosophy which to be honest - is refreshing. Less focus on WR's (Star players), more focus on youth and depth and speed,

Offense - Dallas has a capable QB with a somewhat limited ceiling. A top 5 RB, who can be dominant at times. The O-line that was completely re-vamped. T Smith is healthy add in Connor with Fredbeard, Martin and Collins. We have a starting LT as our swing tackle.  I know-I know. Yes, there are no superstars at WR or TE.  It's not like you guys had a Julio/Beckham/Brown either though.  At TE - Rico, could be something - or could be a total bust. We have a couple guys you can play. 

Defense - We are rounding into shape imo. Vander Esch, Smith no brace this year, Irving, Lawrence, Charlton and some good young corners Lewis and Awuzie! We still have Sean Lee and some decent DLine rotation players.  I would say Safety is an opportunity to improve for sure.

The Cowboys are one of the youngest teams in the league, they have rid themselves of almost ALL bad contracts. They will have a TON of cap room next year -close to 70-80 million. I have not been optimistic for while with this team, but am seeing signs of this turning around. 

I get we Cowboy fans will have to bear the jokes of 2 playoffs wins - just like you guys had to deal with the empty trophy case jokes. It's Football and that's what makes it fun.  I get it's more fun to say Dallas sucks or Jerry this or we can't draft  - I just like it balanced with some analysis or forethought.
I appreciate the reply.  I was speaking mainly to what they have done to help Dak out for the past 2-3 years.  My opinion on Dak seems to be similar to yours and with that said I would have expected more weapons and targets for him.  We all know what happens when that rookie deal is on it's last, or next to last, year so the window is getting small especially when a lot of the OL deals and Zeke will need a new contract as well.  Those guys and Lawrence (is he still on the franchise tag? IDK) will take up huge chunks.  

Admittedly I don't know the ins and outs of Dallas but from the outside looking in, it seemed like they're doing a poor job of helping him.

 
good post and good points.  just my two cents, but I think a lot of the backlash was due to the statement that the cowboys have the best front office in football.  Definitely stating they are the best screams of blind homerism.   stating they have one of the better front offices probably would have been received better, especially considering there isn't any qualitative way to measure best vs worst
This.  Like almost everything in sports (and life), the truth lies somewhere in between the two extremes that people like to argue.  Dallas front office has NOT been awful the last few years.... in fact they have started to draft pretty well.  I also think the extreme posts from Eagles fans were due to a completely homer statement that they have hands down been the best in the NFL.  If you're going to make statements like that, you'll get called out on it.  Especially in a rivals thread. 

I'll personally give their recent drafts a B+/A-.  It's impossible to rank them #1 or #7, etc, but I'd put them around # 5-10 if I had to.  All other points are fair though... it hasn't equated to playoff success/super bowls (which seemed to be what Dallas fans have used as the ONLY measuring point of success when talking to us before this year). 

 
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Coming in peace - just a counter point.

I really don't understand this. I'm not saying we have the best front office but to say the Cowboys have not drafted well is not true either.  Please look at their history over the last 6-7 years. They have nailed almost all early round picks and have also found depth players in later rounds and also a starting QB in the 4th.  I personally believe with better coaching and slightly better QB (In the Romo years) play - that they could have another SB. Also, keep in mind they have been in cap hell the last 3-4 years.

Like all NFL teams - Dallas has some weaker positions and we are starting to see a change in philosophy which to be honest - is refreshing. Less focus on WR's (Star players), more focus on youth and depth and speed,

Offense - Dallas has a capable QB with a somewhat limited ceiling. A top 5 RB, who can be dominant at times. The O-line that was completely re-vamped. T Smith is healthy add in Connor with Fredbeard, Martin and Collins. We have a starting LT as our swing tackle.  I know-I know. Yes, there are no superstars at WR or TE.  It's not like you guys had a Julio/Beckham/Brown either though.  At TE - Rico, could be something - or could be a total bust. We have a couple guys you can play. 

Defense - We are rounding into shape imo. Vander Esch, Smith no brace this year, Irving, Lawrence, Charlton and some good young corners Lewis and Awuzie! We still have Sean Lee and some decent DLine rotation players.  I would say Safety is an opportunity to improve for sure.

The Cowboys are one of the youngest teams in the league, they have rid themselves of almost ALL bad contracts. They will have a TON of cap room next year -close to 70-80 million. I have not been optimistic for while with this team, but am seeing signs of this turning around. 

I get we Cowboy fans will have to bear the jokes of 2 playoffs wins - just like you guys had to deal with the empty trophy case jokes. It's Football and that's what makes it fun.  I get it's more fun to say Dallas sucks or Jerry this or we can't draft  - I just like it balanced with some analysis or forethought.
You seem like a smart dude, but there's a lot of let's say, agitation, with Philly fans in regards to Dallas fans. I'm sure some would even admit it, LOL.

I mean, I get it. Years & years of playing second fiddle to the Cowboys has to do some damage. I was honestly shocked Philly fans were surprised when I mentioned I didn't view them as a big rival (previous to this season). The vast majority of the Dallas fans I know (& there's a lot of them), feel the same way. Just the opposite is true with them. We all have differing opinions, but you have to realize where they're coming from.

This post isn't meant to start anything. I guess more than anything it's me validating the rivalry now. They have an excellent team & like you said, we're on the verge (maybe of something really special). That's a recipe for a serious rivalry & I, for one, welcome it.

 
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Wentz is gonna cost us 35 mil a year, isn't he..  Wonder if there's a way to get the stats on win/loss records once a QB gets over a certain percentage of the teams salary cap.  I think there's a curve, where once a QB gets too high, the team itself gets too shorthanded to be competitive.  With limited assets, as important as a QB is, there is still a limit to what they should be paid.

I think that's partially why NE has sustained success - they have excellent QB play, but Brady is paid in the middle of the road territory.

Over the past 3 seasons, team’s whose QB ranks in the Top 10 financially have averaged 8 wins, and only a 1/3 end up making the postseason

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/2017/quarterback/full-cap/

Last year, 6 of the top 10 QB spenders didn't make the playoffs.  5 of the bottom 11 DID.

This article talks about it a bit too.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/02/nfl-quarterback-salaries-salary-cap-kirk-cousins-free-agency

 
Curious to know - who this group feels is there most level headed and informed Eagles fan on this board? 

Will Wentz be ready game one - as things stand now? Rehab going well?

 
Curious to know - who this group feels is there most level headed and informed Eagles fan on this board? 

Will Wentz be ready game one - as things stand now? Rehab going well?
Unless there's a set-back, the feeling is he will be cleared for game 1. But it's also widely believed he won't be 100% his old-self week 1. May have some limited mobility, will not have had a full off-season and pre-season to prepare, etc., so that could affect whether they play him week 1 (or if he plays, expecting him to pick up where he left off might be too much.) 

 
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Wentz is gonna cost us 35 mil a year, isn't he..  Wonder if there's a way to get the stats on win/loss records once a QB gets over a certain percentage of the teams salary cap.  I think there's a curve, where once a QB gets too high, the team itself gets too shorthanded to be competitive.
It's proportional, too. While he may cost us $30-$35MM/year eventually, at that point the cap will be higher so the percent he takes up won't be too different than what teams like GB, ATL, etc. have to deal with. Makes it more difficult, but not impossible. That's why seizing on this window, while he's on his rookie contract, is a priority for the front office. 

 
It's proportional, too. While he may cost us $30-$35MM/year eventually, at that point the cap will be higher so the percent he takes up won't be too different than what teams like GB, ATL, etc. have to deal with. Makes it more difficult, but not impossible. That's why seizing on this window, while he's on his rookie contract, is a priority for the front office. 
Right - Seattle hasn't been back since Wilson got off his rookie deal.  I think Green Bay and New Orleans won before their QB signed huge deals too (and Rodgers is about to get even higher)  Baltimore obviously the shining example of this.  I don't think Atlanta (and GB soon) are going to be in great shape if they commit too high a %.   There's probably a correlation between the % you commit, and the value of your QB, and if you overpay - you're done (unless you can get super lucky and hit on a lot of mid-range draft picks).

 
Curious to know - who this group feels is there most level headed and informed Eagles fan on this board? 

Will Wentz be ready game one - as things stand now? Rehab going well?
I've only been here for a year reading off and on but Deamon seems incredible reasonable and I can't think of who it is who does the all 22

As it stands right now Wentz Rehab is apparently going better then expected. No one would be shocked if he's starting week 1

 
It's proportional, too. While he may cost us $30-$35MM/year eventually, at that point the cap will be higher so the percent he takes up won't be too different than what teams like GB, ATL, etc. have to deal with. Makes it more difficult, but not impossible. That's why seizing on this window, while he's on his rookie contract, is a priority for the front office. 
Here why I don't believe the people who say tanking happens in the nFL. You have a short window and one of the reasons why I want the NBA to go to a similar hard cap as the NFL. I think when it comes to contracts overall the NFL has the best system in terms of becoming and signing FA, extending your own players etc. 

 
Right - Seattle hasn't been back since Wilson got off his rookie deal.  I think Green Bay and New Orleans won before their QB signed huge deals too (and Rodgers is about to get even higher)  Baltimore obviously the shining example of this.  I don't think Atlanta (and GB soon) are going to be in great shape if they commit too high a %.   There's probably a correlation between the % you commit, and the value of your QB, and if you overpay - you're done (unless you can get super lucky and hit on a lot of mid-range draft picks).
I actually called Seattle's decline a year or two prior to Wilson's extension. I said they won't be able to keep all of their key defensive guys and pay Wison when they need help on the offensive line and offensive skilled positions. I thought having Lynch made them more dangerous with Wilson's athleticism but looking at the SEA offensive players go elsewhere their game elevated else where which is a concern. Meanwhile many of their defensive players on new teams are an incredible disappointment. Seattle hid a lot of their weaknesses with Lynch there and Wilson on a rookie salary plus their defense in their prime. Once those guys were out of their prime and everyone started to cost more and Lynch retiring things went down hill fast. Sea main issues were just never fixed. Just band aid. It does get hard though but with Roseman as our GM I'm sure he'll get creative. Wouldn't shock me either if Wentz took less to help the team either Ala what Brady did for yrs. 

 
Happy 3 month Anniversary of the Eagles Super Bowl LII victory.  I might come down from that cloud around training camp...maybe.

 
Curious to know - who this group feels is there most level headed and informed Eagles fan on this board? 

Will Wentz be ready game one - as things stand now? Rehab going well?
ehh, think you are looking more for a doctor then a fan opinion. word is all over the place of where he may be. considering we won;t see him in July and they still have BD Nick, there is not a need to rush Wentz back. Eagles can still start seaon 1-2 or whatever and should still make the playoffs

 
Happy 3 month Anniversary of the Eagles Super Bowl LII victory.  I might come down from that cloud around training camp...maybe.
watching it right now (need to wash away the Sixers' last 2 games). i'm happy they didn't get a RB, would like to see what Clement can do with more reps. he has earned it. i know Pats D isn't stellar, but kid looked good

 
Right - Seattle hasn't been back since Wilson got off his rookie deal.  I think Green Bay and New Orleans won before their QB signed huge deals too (and Rodgers is about to get even higher)  Baltimore obviously the shining example of this.  I don't think Atlanta (and GB soon) are going to be in great shape if they commit too high a %.   There's probably a correlation between the % you commit, and the value of your QB, and if you overpay - you're done (unless you can get super lucky and hit on a lot of mid-range draft picks).
There is almost certainly a correlation there. Any time you have an elite player(s) under contract for cheap its a huge advantage. QB is obviously the best position to have this at, but even a team like Denver which was paying Manning top dollar, had guys like Miller, Harris and Thomas on rookie deals for most of their run. 

 
i put this in the other thread, but it is nice to see the Cowboys shook when the Eagles took Goedart:

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2018/5/4/17295490/what-theyre-saying-day-2-draft-edition-david-does-dallas

the video is great
Being the Super Bowl Champ I've taken the offseason off and just let Howie do it. 

People wonder why we took a TE when we have Ertz but after watching Goedert videos a bit teams won't be double covering Ertz. 

So in one pick the Eagles get better while making a rivalry team weaker at a position. 

It's moves like this that we might be seeing the beginning of dynasty.

 
Wentz is gonna cost us 35 mil a year, isn't he..  Wonder if there's a way to get the stats on win/loss records once a QB gets over a certain percentage of the teams salary cap.  I think there's a curve, where once a QB gets too high, the team itself gets too shorthanded to be competitive.  With limited assets, as important as a QB is, there is still a limit to what they should be paid.

I think that's partially why NE has sustained success - they have excellent QB play, but Brady is paid in the middle of the road territory.
I'm wondering (hoping) if maybe Carson is the type of guy that would do the same and take less money in order for us to build a good team around him too?

 
I'm wondering (hoping) if maybe Carson is the type of guy that would do the same and take less money in order for us to build a good team around him too?
That's more likely to happen with his 3rd contract. The 2nd contract is where you can be set for life (as well as your children) so these guys have to get all they can with a career like football. Not saying Wentz wouldn't take a small hometown discount, but he's still going to take up a huge chunk of the cap when eligible for FA.

It's just a fact of life with that particular position. You have to really be diligent about the cap at all times.

 
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I believe the only reason Brady does it is because his wife is worth so much money
Tom is the equivalent of a BB and Kraft Yes Man so I think for yrs he was all about helping them. Now with all the rumors I think he's tired of being BB's ##### and wants to do things his way. More of I've sacrificed a ton for your guys the least you can do is sacrifice something for me. 

 
I believe the only reason Brady does it is because his wife is worth so much money
could be, but i think if you feel you are with the right org it makes sense. i was surprised when Barret Brooks restructured his deal to give Foles money, but it certainly sets a good stage. i think Wentz knows he can't be as good as he can without the weapons and OL around him. time will tell, but Webtz seems to get it if the Eagles keep him for his career

 
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could be, but i think if you feel you are with the right org it makes sense. i was surprised when Barret Brooks restructured his deal to give Foles money, but it certainly sets a good stage. i think Wentz knows he can't be as good as he can without the weapons and OL around him. time will tell, but Webtz seems to get it if the Eagles keep him for his career
How much did it cost Brooks to restructure?

 
to be honest not sure. might have just kicked the can down the road, would need someone else to chime in
LA Times -

"They were estimated to be only around $1.5 million under the cap before this move, in which Brooks still will be paid the same amount of guaranteed money that his original contract stipulated.

By pushing the figures around with accounting magic, he actually will get more than he had been due this year."

Let's not pretend he did Foles a personal favor

 
LA Times -

"They were estimated to be only around $1.5 million under the cap before this move, in which Brooks still will be paid the same amount of guaranteed money that his original contract stipulated.

By pushing the figures around with accounting magic, he actually will get more than he had been due this year."

Let's not pretend he did Foles a personal favor
eeh maybe. still didn't have to do anything. but yes, howie has been exceptional so far. key will be keeping the salary cap flexibility in a few yrs

 
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LA Times -

"They were estimated to be only around $1.5 million under the cap before this move, in which Brooks still will be paid the same amount of guaranteed money that his original contract stipulated.

By pushing the figures around with accounting magic, he actually will get more than he had been due this year."

Let's not pretend he did Foles a personal favor
Tell us more about your GM and how he maneuvered finances to improve your favorite team. 

 
LA Times -

"They were estimated to be only around $1.5 million under the cap before this move, in which Brooks still will be paid the same amount of guaranteed money that his original contract stipulated.

By pushing the figures around with accounting magic, he actually will get more than he had been due this year."

Let's not pretend he did Foles a personal favor
Hmm...
That is kind of weird the way Brooks bragged about it like he was doing it all for Nick and sacrificing a lot.  Oh well.

 
Tell us more about your GM and how he maneuvered finances to improve your favorite team. 
I'm not sure what that has to do with what we are discussing here.

But since you asked, I believe they have improved this off-season and have about 72 million in cap space next season? :shrug:

 
I'm not sure what that has to do with what we are discussing here.

But since you asked, I believe they have improved this off-season and have about 72 million in cap space next season? :shrug:
According to spotrac they'll have 51 million free.

And the Eagles apparently negative 47 million, lol.  Jesus.

 
According to spotrac they'll have 51 million free.

And the Eagles apparently negative 47 million, lol.  Jesus.
Big chunk of that is the 20 mil for Foles which has no way of still being there.  Peters, Jernigan, Kendricks as well still on the books in that analysis.  Still, we have a lot of players eating up a lot of cap.  You gotta know they're planning for Wentz's payday, will be interesting to see how they manage it. 

 
Big chunk of that is the 20 mil for Foles which has no way of still being there.  Peters, Jernigan, Kendricks as well still on the books in that analysis.  Still, we have a lot of players eating up a lot of cap.  You gotta know they're planning for Wentz's payday, will be interesting to see how they manage it. 
Ya, not as bad as it looks on paper, but not great.  I trust Howie will do something with it.  Think he's already starting to plan for it.

 
You seem like a smart dude, but there's a lot of let's say, agitation, with Philly fans in regards to Dallas fans. I'm sure some would even admit it, LOL.

I mean, I get it. Years & years of playing second fiddle to the Cowboys has to do some damage. I was honestly shocked Philly fans were surprised when I mentioned I didn't view them as a big rival (previous to this season). The vast majority of the Dallas fans I know (& there's a lot of them), feel the same way. Just the opposite is true with them. We all have differing opinions, but you have to realize where they're coming from.

This post isn't meant to start anything. I guess more than anything it's me validating the rivalry now. They have an excellent team & like you said, we're on the verge (maybe of something really special). That's a recipe for a serious rivalry & I, for one, welcome it.
I think Bankerguy gets a whole lot less agitation from Eagles fans because he is very realistic about the Cowboys, both the good things and the bad things. Not that there is anything wrong with being optimistic, but you tend to paint everything for the Cowboys with Rose colored glasses, which is why you get more grief.

The Cowboys right now have the a very good roster, however, with Jason Garrett as HC, it is very hard to take them seriously as top tier team in the NFC.

 

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