CGRdrJoe said:
I thought it was 100 and 10 percent the perfect ending
Carr was in bounds when he slid with 2:04 left in the game and the refs stop the clock because he ended up out of bounds. The clock should have been run down to the 2 minute warning, instead the raiders get a delay of game arguing it and face 1st and 15. Jax had 1 timeout left and should not have gotten the ball back with more than 40 seconds left. Very fitting
I'll need to rewatch that -- were we out of challenges at that point? Imagine so if they got a delay of game at that point as it was still within the challengable time frame.
I don't feel sorry for the fans in Oakland. It is an hour and half flight to Vegas where they can see their team play in a stadium that isn't an embarrassment of a sewer cess pool with an infield half the season. How many games sold out the entire time they were back in Oakland?
I was a fan growing up in the burbs of L.A. and they left. It sucked but it wasn't the end of the world. I saw a couple of games there but only for the love of the team because other than the people the fan experience sucked there.
A brand new awesome stadium in a place that you actually don't mind visiting.
Nope. It may not be a popular opinion but I don't feel sorry for any Oakland area fans.
Some tough love there. Yes, it is literally the worst stadium in the NFL, and a poor stadium by any professional sports standard. But that's not entirely on fans. In this day and age I don't blame Oakland, its mayor, or its residents in choosing to fund other needs besides having to allocate tax dollars to a billion dollar stadium.
I don't know every last detail of the back and forth that got us here, and I am sure everyone could have played it better -- Oakland, its city council, the team, the NFL -- but in this day and age of sports dollar excess, I really do feel for the fans if it's between their sports team and schools/infrastructure/social programs, etc. Or between groceries and the exorbitant price of a ticket to the game.
Davis may be the poorest owner among the billionaires that own clubs, but he and the league make money. I think in a case like OAK they could likely be less profitable, build a new stadium, and be as loyal to the fans as they are to the team. But that's not how capitalism and the NFL works.
STC, no one's taking shots at fans who showed up today. Its yet another non-playoff season but I was totally invested today knowing its last game in Oakland and watching all the history shown during game.
I think Bruno said 'those fans' as they were the ones in stadium today, but he was referring to all of us Raider fans. We were teased at 6-4 and embarrassed again as we drop to 6-8. Those last 4 losses have been by 88 points . We have the 4th worst pt differential in league.
Bruno2 and Ed are spot on. Gruden is drawing up a great plan to start game but not adjusting well at all. Today NE struggles to go up at half 13-10 and it finishes 34-13. That's coaching adjustments.
I hear ya -- we were all invested in this game. And all valid points about the slipshop effort to close and the need for a better 2nd half game plan to adjust.
Just trying to bring a little balanced perspective and optimism, as literally nothing has changed.
We were always leaving Oakland this year -- would have been fantastic to win and go out on a high note, but that's never a guarantee, regardless of how good or bad the team plays.
We have been a non-playoff team pretty much since the Jets loss. We are decimated by injury and the way we're built and the personnel at our disposal, we had very little shot. We are still not mathematically eliminated, but weren't after the Jets game either -- in both cases I don't think anyone here thought it would be likely we'd get into the postseason.
This was always a building block to next year. We were thrilled to seem like we could compete with playoff teams this year, but really we all just wanted to be competitive. We still are. Against any team. I just don't expect we'd win against any team. Like always, we just need to be much better, and keep improving.
Truly sucky time and way to lose, and can't help but leave a bitter taste in the mouth. But it doesn't change that next year still looks like it could be another year where, with the right pieces added and some health, we could be that team we aspired to be this season.
In fact, I'd bet on it.