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***Official Big Brother Thread*** No Spoilers Starts 7/6 (2 Viewers)

Grigs Allmoon said:
I'm way late to this thread, but I watched every episode, and I can't believe Paul lost this. This was a classic case of sore losers in the jury, as this was one of the best games, if not the best, I've seen since I started watching in season 4. I didn't really want Paul to win, as I don't like when they bring people back to play again, but he deserved it. He orchestrated the whole season.
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i thought Paul would win too, but in reality you can't lie to everyone's face and be everybody's friend and think that all will be good. I think by having Xmas and Josh do his dirty work with Alex and Jason, that is where he lost the game. If he would have done of any of those himself, and not tell everyone every time that he knew he was going to get voted out and he is soooo lucky, i think he would have swung another vote or 2.

It is funny that Jessica would have voted for Paul, wonder if he is kicking himself for not getting rid of someone who hated him a lot. Like if he got ri of Cody before Jessica, he would have won

 
I successfully avoided spoilers fro 24 hours.  Lots of good thoughts in this thread. 

After getting sucked in and thinking this would be a good season I was reeled back in with the finale.  I'm one of the few that thinks Josh actually did play a pretty good game, at least the last half.  He ended up reminding me of Zach (from BB16 I think), just way more over the top.  I think no one ever though about putting him up because he was always the source of drama and the an obvious target.  Its pretty ballsy to put your game out there like that. 

While Paul did "play the best game" I think its becoming clear you can't lie/back stab/have people do your dirty work the entire game.  Jury no longer respects that.  You can do it once or twice and put the "big move" on you resume but you can't do it all season long.  I don't feel sorry for Paul at all with the way he was gifted 3 weeks immunity. 

Final thoughts...

Cody winning AFP shows just how many people hated Paul. 

I think Paul had already lost before his Q & A, but he freaking blew it.  Feedsters saw so many moments where Paul instigated bullying in the house.  There is no denying that.  You can search youtube now and see multiple clips of it.  He plotted with a bunch of people one day to get everyone to go after Cody about his service in hopes of getting him to punch someone.  Another time he sent Josh after Mark hoping for the same thing. 

The only time i felt bad for Paul was when Raven was locked on his arm...yikes.  I would have shook her off. 

 
Grigs Allmoon said:
I'm way late to this thread, but I watched every episode, and I can't believe Paul lost this. This was a classic case of sore losers in the jury, as this was one of the best games, if not the best, I've seen since I started watching in season 4. I didn't really want Paul to win, as I don't like when they bring people back to play again, but he deserved it. He orchestrated the whole season.
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no way.  dan and derek were better off the top of my head.

 
Grigs Allmoon said:
I'm way late to this thread, but I watched every episode, and I can't believe Paul lost this. This was a classic case of sore losers in the jury, as this was one of the best games, if not the best, I've seen since I started watching in season 4. I didn't really want Paul to win, as I don't like when they bring people back to play again, but he deserved it. He orchestrated the whole season.
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and I 100% disagree with the bolded.  Paul lost the game for Paul with his goodbye messages, smugness, and the way he handled the Q&A session.

 
Fat Nick said:
This is all the more reason to watch again next season.  No more Paul, no more Josh. 

Josh may be the weakest winner I can recall.

Still saying BB21 needs to be the "battle of the 1st outs," where all the 1st-to-be-voted-out contestants return.
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I want to see GLENN!!!

 
And Josh totally nailed it with all his good bye messages.  That was a fantastic game move.  Paul and all of his post eviction antics in flipping out was pretty much nullified as soon as the evicted HG saw Joshs message. 

Paul was PISSED!

 
modogg said:
It is funny that Jessica would have voted for Paul, wonder if he is kicking himself for not getting rid of someone who hated him a lot. Like if he got ri of Cody before Jessica, he would have won
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Eh I think a big factor in her decision was from what she saw watching at home. She was able to fully see how in control Paul was. 

 
EYLive said:
I would rank them:
1. Dr. Will
2. Derek
3. Dan

Derek made it look easy. 
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I've only watched since BB15, but I think Derek should have an * by his name.  Cody gifted him that spot in the final 2.  I loved the way Derrick played, and it was great, but he was gift wrapped that final 2 spot if i remember it correctly.  

 
1 Derek

2 Dan

3 Will

Derek cruised thru the game like nothing I've ever seen. Complete control from start to finish. Never had to break a sweat. 

 
Pretty sure everyone would have those guys in their top three, but who would round out the top 5?  

Rachel?

Boogie?

Ian?

 
jb1020 said:
I've only watched since BB15, but I think Derek should have an * by his name.  Cody gifted him that spot in the final 2.  I loved the way Derrick played, and it was great, but he was gift wrapped that final 2 spot if i remember it correctly.  
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Exactly. Derek was overrated and really shouldn't have even won. Cody, his crony, threw away $450k, and gifted Derek the win.

 
bryhamm said:
Derek is the ONLY person to never be on the nomination block and win the game.
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So? Dr Will used to ask to go on the block, insult people while on the block, and demand they vote him out, and he still won. (Well, I guess Boogie won that season.) That's way more impressive.

 
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Never getting on the block is pretty impressive, but talking your way out of eviction  votes is way harder. I rank Dan over Derrick. Never watched a Dr Will season 

 
Grigs Allmoon said:
So? Dr Will used to ask to go on the block, insult people while on the block, and demand they vote him out, and he still won. (Well, I guess Boogie won that season.) That's way more impressive.
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That was the "all star" season when those goofs were just in awe of him.

 
Dan's whole funeral for himself/surviving that week is the single most impressive feat in history though. He was done. That was amazing how he flipped Sid's kid that week. 

 
Where can one watch previous seasons?

I'd like to go back and watch Dr. Will's season - I only saw part of it back in the day.

 
Watching the finale now with the wife - love Dr. Will "are you all a bunch of sore losers?"  What a group of morons - I already know who wins and I shouldn't be surprised these bunch of turds can't realize when they've been outplayed.  

 
That's a rough way for Paul to lose a 2nd time - I really liked Alex the while game but she took it way too personal.  Also, I can't believe Mark would vote for Josh after the way he behaved.  These people are a bunch of ####### idiots.  I totally get why Cody voted against Paul and I bet he loved being the deciding vote but Josh is completely undeserving IMO.

 
Fat Nick said:
I thought these things were just RW/RR contestants.  Are they just open to anybody now?  Also - they still do these challenges?  
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Just within the past year they started doing some different things like this.  They've got like 4 or 5 reality show Brits on this RW/RR Challenge, Vic and Nat, and a few other non RW/RR people.  

 
Bobcat10 said:
Just within the past year they started doing some different things like this.  They've got like 4 or 5 reality show Brits on this RW/RR Challenge, Vic and Nat, and a few other non RW/RR people.  
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I heard CM Punk and Michelle Waterson were competing as well. 

 
EYLive said:
I heard CM Punk and Michelle Waterson were competing as well. 
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They are not on the show Vengeance that started last night.

The Karate Hottie is on Champs vs Pros (all for charity) which I think just has one more episode next week.  She's in the final.  The Pros side had like TO, some famous gymnast and volleyball player, Master P's son, and some others.  The Champs side has some of the best RW/RR winners.  The Champs have actually dominated for the most part.

Punk was on another show earlier this season and I don't think he lasted very long (big surprise).   

 
Celebrity cast:

Shannon Elizabeth

Ross Mathews

Brandi Glanville

Keshia Knight Pulliam

Metta World Peace

Miss Colombia Ardriana Gutierrez

James Maslow

Marissa Jaret Winokur

Mark McGrath

Omarosa Manigualt

Chuck Liddell

 
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