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Official Bishop Sankey - Best RB in the 2014 Draft (2 Viewers)

Sankey is listed at #2 on the depth chart today.

I am boggled by the Shonn Greene situation. Nobody mentions him and he seems like waiver fodder. Yet he's #1. Is he owned in your leagues? Should he be?

 
Sankey is listed at #2 on the depth chart today.

I am boggled by the Shonn Greene situation. Nobody mentions him and he seems like waiver fodder. Yet he's #1. Is he owned in your leagues? Should he be?
Greene just isn't that good, and the Jets gave him every opportunity. Fantasy-wise you could pencil him in for 7 points every week, with an occasional big game that padded his year-end stats. He'll get snaps with the Titans, but if you start him on your fantasy team, don't expect much.

 
He was around RB15 doing that with the Jets despite his talent level. That's what I can't get over.

2011 10.2 PPG

2012 10.6 PPG
I looked at the logs from that season and he had 9 games with less than 10 points in PPR. One huge game with 34 points that skewed his final numbers. A lot of his owners didn't start him for that game since he'd had 2, 7, 3, 5 points the previous 4 weeks.

 
If I were a Sankey owner it wouldn't be the situation that's concerning but rather what he's shown thus far. The guy seems to lack physicality and goes down too easy. On plays where he should get 5 yds he's getting 3... Reminds me a little of Lamar miller or jahvid best, and not in a good way.

 
If I were a Sankey owner it wouldn't be the situation that's concerning but rather what he's shown thus far. The guy seems to lack physicality and goes down too easy. On plays where he should get 5 yds he's getting 3... Reminds me a little of Lamar miller or jahvid best, and not in a good way.
I could not disagree with you more!

 
As key's usage this preseason has been concerning. There is really no way to sugar coat that. If he doesn't see a decent amount of time early with the 1s in next weeks game, the most telling of all preseason, then he has to start seeing his value decrease IMO.
Gio's first preseason game - 10/28(2.8 YPC)/1 TD, 3 catches for 16 yards

Sankey's first preseason game - 13/37(2.8 YPC), 3 catches for 28 yards, 1 TD

Gio's second preseason game - 7/37(5.3 YPC)/1 TD, 1 catches for 22 yards

Sankey's second preseason game - 6/31(5.2 YPC)

Gio's third preseason game - 6/39(6.5 YPC), 2 catches for 17 yards
Sankey's third preseason game - 7/43(6.1 YPC), 1 catch for 3 yards.

I know it will be brushed off since he didn't play with the starters but there it is.

 
If I were a Sankey owner it wouldn't be the situation that's concerning but rather what he's shown thus far. The guy seems to lack physicality and goes down too easy. On plays where he should get 5 yds he's getting 3... Reminds me a little of Lamar miller or jahvid best, and not in a good way.
I could not disagree with you more!
No matter what happens from here on out, you were wrong by default. The dude you've been pimping for 24 pages couldn't beat out Shonn ####### Greene of all people, a RB with stone hands who has averaged sub 4YPC over the past two years. I have no doubt that Sankey will be worked in more as the season progresses but he is without a doubt one of the biggest losers of the 2014 preseason, proving his ADP was hyper inflated. Expectations clearly need to be tempered at this point. Just give it a rest already.

 
Took him at 1.1 in a dynasty league and I have him in several re-drafts...

I also "Put my money where my mouth is" and took him on my FFPC Team where I drafted from the 3 slot yesterday. He could help me win a lot of cash this year...

1- Jimmy Graham

2- Alshon Jeffery

3- Doug Martin

4- Victor Cruz

5- Trent Richardson

6- Bishop Sankey

7- Travis Kelce

8- Dwayne Bowe

9- Sammy Watkins

10- Tony Romo

11- RG3

12- Knile Davis

13- Doug Baldwin

14- Tre Mason

15- Richard Rogers

16- SF Defense

17- Bryce Brown

18- Allen Robinson

19- Matt Bryant

20- Odell Beckum Jr

I keep hearing about Shonn Greene and Dexter McCluster... Don't listen to that noise!
wow at that draft. and not bc of sankey.

 
Sankey is listed at #2 on the depth chart today.

I am boggled by the Shonn Greene situation. Nobody mentions him and he seems like waiver fodder. Yet he's #1. Is he owned in your leagues? Should he be?
Greene just isn't that good, and the Jets gave him every opportunity. Fantasy-wise you could pencil him in for 7 points every week, with an occasional big game that padded his year-end stats. He'll get snaps with the Titans, but if you start him on your fantasy team, don't expect much.
so why should we own Sankey hoping that he will take Greene's job and not own Greene who has the job?

 
Sankey is listed at #2 on the depth chart today.

I am boggled by the Shonn Greene situation. Nobody mentions him and he seems like waiver fodder. Yet he's #1. Is he owned in your leagues? Should he be?
Greene just isn't that good, and the Jets gave him every opportunity. Fantasy-wise you could pencil him in for 7 points every week, with an occasional big game that padded his year-end stats. He'll get snaps with the Titans, but if you start him on your fantasy team, don't expect much.
so why should we own Sankey hoping that he will take Greene's job and not own Greene who has the job?
Who would you rather have had at the beginning of last year: BJGE or Gio?

Sometimes you have to take the young backup RB, rather than the veteran starting RB.

I'm not sold on Sankey, by any means, but if I had to pick one, I'd probably choose him over Greene, for his potential upside.

 
Took him at 1.1 in a dynasty league and I have him in several re-drafts...

I also "Put my money where my mouth is" and took him on my FFPC Team where I drafted from the 3 slot yesterday. He could help me win a lot of cash this year...

1- Jimmy Graham

2- Alshon Jeffery

3- Doug Martin

4- Victor Cruz

5- Trent Richardson

6- Bishop Sankey

7- Travis Kelce

8- Dwayne Bowe

9- Sammy Watkins

10- Tony Romo

11- RG3

12- Knile Davis

13- Doug Baldwin

14- Tre Mason

15- Richard Rogers

16- SF Defense

17- Bryce Brown

18- Allen Robinson

19- Matt Bryant

20- Odell Beckum Jr

I keep hearing about Shonn Greene and Dexter McCluster... Don't listen to that noise!
wow at that draft. and not bc of sankey.
Team is very weak at RB.

 
If I were a Sankey owner it wouldn't be the situation that's concerning but rather what he's shown thus far. The guy seems to lack physicality and goes down too easy. On plays where he should get 5 yds he's getting 3... Reminds me a little of Lamar miller or jahvid best, and not in a good way.
I could not disagree with you more!
No matter what happens from here on out, you were wrong by default. The dude you've been pimping for 24 pages couldn't beat out Shonn ####### Greene of all people, a RB with stone hands who has averaged sub 4YPC over the past two years. I have no doubt that Sankey will be worked in more as the season progresses but he is without a doubt one of the biggest losers of the 2014 preseason, proving his ADP was hyper inflated. Expectations clearly need to be tempered at this point. Just give it a rest already.
Gio couldn't beat out BJGE of all people.

 
oh man the gio bjge situation was way way different. like completely different. gio was clearly gonna be an important part of the team and was getting plenty of first team run. this situation is much cloudier.

 
oh man the gio bjge situation was way way different. like completely different. gio was clearly gonna be an important part of the team and was getting plenty of first team run. this situation is much cloudier.
Gio didn't get any starter reps with Cincy in the 2013 pre-season.

He went into the 2013 season as the #2 to BJGE's #1.

It was believed (and turned out to be the case) that BJGE would be the starter to start the season & be the goal-line back last year, while Gio would be the COP back.

The situations seem fairly similar to me. Could you demonstrate how they are different?

 
oh man the gio bjge situation was way way different. like completely different. gio was clearly gonna be an important part of the team and was getting plenty of first team run. this situation is much cloudier.
Gio didn't get any starter reps with Cincy in the 2013 pre-season.

He went into the 2013 season as the #2 to BJGE's #1.

It was believed (and turned out to be the case) that BJGE would be the starter to start the season & be the goal-line back last year, while Gio would be the COP back.

The situations seem fairly similar to me. Could you demonstrate how they are different?
Watch the games, see that Gio can actually run between the tackles effectively and Sankey can't push a pile of 2nd-3rd stringers.

 
oh man the gio bjge situation was way way different. like completely different. gio was clearly gonna be an important part of the team and was getting plenty of first team run. this situation is much cloudier.
Gio didn't get any starter reps with Cincy in the 2013 pre-season.

He went into the 2013 season as the #2 to BJGE's #1.

It was believed (and turned out to be the case) that BJGE would be the starter to start the season & be the goal-line back last year, while Gio would be the COP back.

The situations seem fairly similar to me. Could you demonstrate how they are different?
Watch the games, see that Gio can actually run between the tackles effectively and Sankey can't push a pile of 2nd-3rd stringers.
That's their ability/talent/production, not their situation.

 
oh man the gio bjge situation was way way different. like completely different. gio was clearly gonna be an important part of the team and was getting plenty of first team run. this situation is much cloudier.
Gio didn't get any starter reps with Cincy in the 2013 pre-season.

He went into the 2013 season as the #2 to BJGE's #1.

It was believed (and turned out to be the case) that BJGE would be the starter to start the season & be the goal-line back last year, while Gio would be the COP back.

The situations seem fairly similar to me. Could you demonstrate how they are different?
gio just got a lot more play in the preseason, the coaches expressed more confidence in him, and the coaches maintained that he would be an important part of the offense. none of that has happened for sankey.

 
oh man the gio bjge situation was way way different. like completely different. gio was clearly gonna be an important part of the team and was getting plenty of first team run. this situation is much cloudier.
Gio didn't get any starter reps with Cincy in the 2013 pre-season. He went into the 2013 season as the #2 to BJGE's #1.

It was believed (and turned out to be the case) that BJGE would be the starter to start the season & be the goal-line back last year, while Gio would be the COP back.

The situations seem fairly similar to me. Could you demonstrate how they are different?
gio just got a lot more play in the preseason, the coaches expressed more confidence in him, and the coaches maintained that he would be an important part of the offense. none of that has happened for sankey.
More play?

 
Took him at 1.1 in a dynasty league and I have him in several re-drafts...

I also "Put my money where my mouth is" and took him on my FFPC Team where I drafted from the 3 slot yesterday. He could help me win a lot of cash this year...

1- Jimmy Graham

2- Alshon Jeffery

3- Doug Martin

4- Victor Cruz

5- Trent Richardson

6- Bishop Sankey

7- Travis Kelce

8- Dwayne Bowe

9- Sammy Watkins

10- Tony Romo

11- RG3

12- Knile Davis

13- Doug Baldwin

14- Tre Mason

15- Richard Rogers

16- SF Defense

17- Bryce Brown

18- Allen Robinson

19- Matt Bryant

20- Odell Beckum Jr

I keep hearing about Shonn Greene and Dexter McCluster... Don't listen to that noise!
wow at that draft. and not bc of sankey.
Team is very weak.
Fixed...

 
cvnpoka said:
Bayhawks said:
cvnpoka said:
oh man the gio bjge situation was way way different. like completely different. gio was clearly gonna be an important part of the team and was getting plenty of first team run. this situation is much cloudier.
Gio didn't get any starter reps with Cincy in the 2013 pre-season.

He went into the 2013 season as the #2 to BJGE's #1.

It was believed (and turned out to be the case) that BJGE would be the starter to start the season & be the goal-line back last year, while Gio would be the COP back.

The situations seem fairly similar to me. Could you demonstrate how they are different?
gio just got a lot more play in the preseason, the coaches expressed more confidence in him, and the coaches maintained that he would be an important part of the offense. none of that has happened for sankey.
Gio didn't get "a lot more play" in the preseason. Perhaps you are using hindsight when you state this.

The coaches expressed more confidence in him? What are these?

"I think that it was obvious that he’s a talented young man. He ran the ball very well last night, very decisive, made good cuts. We’ve seen growth from him, as well....we’ve seen growth with Bishop (Sankey). He’s gotten better, obviously, at his exchanges with the quarterbacks. His course on his footwork has improved. His vision is good. He’s seeing the holes well. His protection, he’s done a nicer job with that as he’s gone through it, so from a young guy that you’re trying to get prepared to contribute during the season, you’ve seen growth, you’ve seen him moving along with that, and that’s what you needed to see. I’m happy with him."

Running backs Shonn Greene, Bishop Sankey earn praiseStandouts: Whisenhunt identified running back Bishop Sankey and safety Daimion Stafford as players who got his attention in the preseason opener.

Doesn't sound like the coaches are "down" on Sankey; maybe you have a little bit of bias with regards to this situation?

 
nirad3 said:
Took him at 1.1 in a dynasty league and I have him in several re-drafts...

I also "Put my money where my mouth is" and took him on my FFPC Team where I drafted from the 3 slot yesterday. He could help me win a lot of cash this year...

1- Jimmy Graham

2- Alshon Jeffery

3- Doug Martin

4- Victor Cruz

5- Trent Richardson

6- Bishop Sankey

7- Travis Kelce

8- Dwayne Bowe

9- Sammy Watkins

10- Tony Romo

11- RG3

12- Knile Davis

13- Doug Baldwin

14- Tre Mason

15- Richard Rogers

16- SF Defense

17- Bryce Brown

18- Allen Robinson

19- Matt Bryant

20- Odell Beckum Jr

I keep hearing about Shonn Greene and Dexter McCluster... Don't listen to that noise!
wow at that draft. and not bc of sankey.
Team is very weak.
Fixed...
I feel great about that draft!

Sankey might be my difference maker!!!

 
nirad3 said:
Took him at 1.1 in a dynasty league and I have him in several re-drafts...

I also "Put my money where my mouth is" and took him on my FFPC Team where I drafted from the 3 slot yesterday. He could help me win a lot of cash this year...

1- Jimmy Graham

2- Alshon Jeffery

3- Doug Martin

4- Victor Cruz

5- Trent Richardson

6- Bishop Sankey

7- Travis Kelce

8- Dwayne Bowe

9- Sammy Watkins

10- Tony Romo

11- RG3

12- Knile Davis

13- Doug Baldwin

14- Tre Mason

15- Richard Rogers

16- SF Defense

17- Bryce Brown

18- Allen Robinson

19- Matt Bryant

20- Odell Beckum Jr

I keep hearing about Shonn Greene and Dexter McCluster... Don't listen to that noise!
wow at that draft. and not bc of sankey.
Team is very weak.
Fixed...
I feel great about that draft!

Sankey might be my difference maker!!!
i hate piling on but you seem to be in denial....you have a lot of wildcards and only a couple of proven players...a few injuries waiting to happen ...if J.Charles and Zac Stacy go down you MIGHT have a better team...i wish you the best of luck

 
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cvnpoka said:
Bayhawks said:
cvnpoka said:
oh man the gio bjge situation was way way different. like completely different. gio was clearly gonna be an important part of the team and was getting plenty of first team run. this situation is much cloudier.
Gio didn't get any starter reps with Cincy in the 2013 pre-season.

He went into the 2013 season as the #2 to BJGE's #1.

It was believed (and turned out to be the case) that BJGE would be the starter to start the season & be the goal-line back last year, while Gio would be the COP back.

The situations seem fairly similar to me. Could you demonstrate how they are different?
gio just got a lot more play in the preseason, the coaches expressed more confidence in him, and the coaches maintained that he would be an important part of the offense. none of that has happened for sankey.
Gio didn't get "a lot more play" in the preseason. Perhaps you are using hindsight when you state this.

The coaches expressed more confidence in him? What are these?

"I think that it was obvious that he’s a talented young man. He ran the ball very well last night, very decisive, made good cuts. We’ve seen growth from him, as well....we’ve seen growth with Bishop (Sankey). He’s gotten better, obviously, at his exchanges with the quarterbacks. His course on his footwork has improved. His vision is good. He’s seeing the holes well. His protection, he’s done a nicer job with that as he’s gone through it, so from a young guy that you’re trying to get prepared to contribute during the season, you’ve seen growth, you’ve seen him moving along with that, and that’s what you needed to see. I’m happy with him."

Running backs Shonn Greene, Bishop Sankey earn praiseStandouts: Whisenhunt identified running back Bishop Sankey and safety Daimion Stafford as players who got his attention in the preseason opener.

Doesn't sound like the coaches are "down" on Sankey; maybe you have a little bit of bias with regards to this situation?
from what i remember the coaches and reporters were talking 5050 split with gio and bjge. from what i remember bernard was entering preseason games a lot earlier than sankey.

 
Bayhawks said:
cvnpoka said:
oh man the gio bjge situation was way way different. like completely different. gio was clearly gonna be an important part of the team and was getting plenty of first team run. this situation is much cloudier.
Gio didn't get any starter reps with Cincy in the 2013 pre-season.

He went into the 2013 season as the #2 to BJGE's #1.

It was believed (and turned out to be the case) that BJGE would be the starter to start the season & be the goal-line back last year, while Gio would be the COP back.

The situations seem fairly similar to me. Could you demonstrate how they are different?
Bayhawks said:
cvnpoka said:
oh man the gio bjge situation was way way different. like completely different. gio was clearly gonna be an important part of the team and was getting plenty of first team run. this situation is much cloudier.
Gio didn't get any starter reps with Cincy in the 2013 pre-season.

He went into the 2013 season as the #2 to BJGE's #1.

It was believed (and turned out to be the case) that BJGE would be the starter to start the season & be the goal-line back last year, while Gio would be the COP back.

The situations seem fairly similar to me. Could you demonstrate how they are different?
incorrect - Gio was the #2 back but he did get work with the first team.

 
Bayhawks said:
cvnpoka said:
oh man the gio bjge situation was way way different. like completely different. gio was clearly gonna be an important part of the team and was getting plenty of first team run. this situation is much cloudier.
Gio didn't get any starter reps with Cincy in the 2013 pre-season.

He went into the 2013 season as the #2 to BJGE's #1.

It was believed (and turned out to be the case) that BJGE would be the starter to start the season & be the goal-line back last year, while Gio would be the COP back.

The situations seem fairly similar to me. Could you demonstrate how they are different?
incorrect - Gio was the #2 back but he did get work with the first team.
Yeah if I remember correctly Gio actually got work with the 1s during the 2013 preseason. It was also made apparent that he was more than just a pass catching back with plus lateral agility as he punched in several of the GL touches he was given during that time span. I distinctly remember Gio's preseason being much more positive than Sankey's.

 
cvnpoka said:
Bayhawks said:
cvnpoka said:
oh man the gio bjge situation was way way different. like completely different. gio was clearly gonna be an important part of the team and was getting plenty of first team run. this situation is much cloudier.
Gio didn't get any starter reps with Cincy in the 2013 pre-season. He went into the 2013 season as the #2 to BJGE's #1.

It was believed (and turned out to be the case) that BJGE would be the starter to start the season & be the goal-line back last year, while Gio would be the COP back.

The situations seem fairly similar to me. Could you demonstrate how they are different?
gio just got a lot more play in the preseason, the coaches expressed more confidence in him, and the coaches maintained that he would be an important part of the offense. none of that has happened for sankey.
Gio didn't get "a lot more play" in the preseason. Perhaps you are using hindsight when you state this. The coaches expressed more confidence in him? What are these?

"I think that it was obvious that he’s a talented young man. He ran the ball very well last night, very decisive, made good cuts. We’ve seen growth from him, as well....we’ve seen growth with Bishop (Sankey). He’s gotten better, obviously, at his exchanges with the quarterbacks. His course on his footwork has improved. His vision is good. He’s seeing the holes well. His protection, he’s done a nicer job with that as he’s gone through it, so from a young guy that you’re trying to get prepared to contribute during the season, you’ve seen growth, you’ve seen him moving along with that, and that’s what you needed to see. I’m happy with him."

Running backs Shonn Greene, Bishop Sankey earn praise

Standouts: Whisenhunt identified running back Bishop Sankey and safety Daimion Stafford as players who got his attention in the preseason opener.

Doesn't sound like the coaches are "down" on Sankey; maybe you have a little bit of bias with regards to this situation?
from what i remember the coaches and reporters were talking 5050 split with gio and bjge. from what i remember bernard was entering preseason games a lot earlier than sankey.
The coaches weren't. Reporters were speculating, but no Cincy coaches said that.
 
Bayhawks said:
cvnpoka said:
oh man the gio bjge situation was way way different. like completely different. gio was clearly gonna be an important part of the team and was getting plenty of first team run. this situation is much cloudier.
Gio didn't get any starter reps with Cincy in the 2013 pre-season.

He went into the 2013 season as the #2 to BJGE's #1.

It was believed (and turned out to be the case) that BJGE would be the starter to start the season & be the goal-line back last year, while Gio would be the COP back.

The situations seem fairly similar to me. Could you demonstrate how they are different?

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Bayhawks said:
cvnpoka said:
oh man the gio bjge situation was way way different. like completely different. gio was clearly gonna be an important part of the team and was getting plenty of first team run. this situation is much cloudier.
Gio didn't get any starter reps with Cincy in the 2013 pre-season.

He went into the 2013 season as the #2 to BJGE's #1.

It was believed (and turned out to be the case) that BJGE would be the starter to start the season & be the goal-line back last year, while Gio would be the COP back.

The situations seem fairly similar to me. Could you demonstrate how they are different?
incorrect - Gio was the #2 back but he did get work with the first team.
This is correct;, but Gio started the season as the clear #2, just as Sankey is.
 
So Gio's situation was similar (at least slightly better, also didn't have someone like McCluster threatening to steal receptions) and he flashed more (presumed better talent) during his rookie preseason yet he was being taken at least a round later than Sankey (6/7th according to MFL). He gave you a damn good return in PPR (finished 13th overal). I have much less faith in Sankey providing the same ROI. I don't see him scoring as many TDs on the ground or catching as many passes.

 
ya i guess its just perception. it seemed to me that the bengals coaches were promising a big role for gio. i dont get that sense in this sankey situation.

ive got no bias. i dont own either as i dont like their prices. i did own gio in a few leagues last yr as he was pretty cheap.

 
ya i guess its just perception. it seemed to me that the bengals coaches were promising a big role for gio. i dont get that sense in this sankey situation.

ive got no bias. i dont own either as i dont like their prices. i did own gio in a few leagues last yr as he was pretty cheap.
I only remember because I owned Gio last year, and I was worried at the beginning of the season that he was going to be a 3rd down/COP back; they seemed intent on keeping BJGE as their main guy.

In that way, this Sankey situation is somewhat similar. Only time will tell if Sankey plays Greene out of town, as Gio did, or if Sankey will squander his opportunity.

 
Sankey is listed at #2 on the depth chart today.

I am boggled by the Shonn Greene situation. Nobody mentions him and he seems like waiver fodder. Yet he's #1. Is he owned in your leagues? Should he be?
Greene just isn't that good, and the Jets gave him every opportunity. Fantasy-wise you could pencil him in for 7 points every week, with an occasional big game that padded his year-end stats. He'll get snaps with the Titans, but if you start him on your fantasy team, don't expect much.
so why should we own Sankey hoping that he will take Greene's job and not own Greene who has the job?
Because Green is terrible and we are projecting Sankey to be better than terrible and for the coaching staff to actually figure this out in the near future.

 
Sankey is listed at #2 on the depth chart today.

I am boggled by the Shonn Greene situation. Nobody mentions him and he seems like waiver fodder. Yet he's #1. Is he owned in your leagues? Should he be?
Greene just isn't that good, and the Jets gave him every opportunity. Fantasy-wise you could pencil him in for 7 points every week, with an occasional big game that padded his year-end stats. He'll get snaps with the Titans, but if you start him on your fantasy team, don't expect much.
so why should we own Sankey hoping that he will take Greene's job and not own Greene who has the job?
Because Green is terrible and we are projecting Sankey to be better than terrible and for the coaching staff to actually figure this out in the near future.
Pretty much this. I'm projecting Sankey to have a dynasty value similar to Leveon Bell after one year with some upside

 
The career of this tough little SOB starts today. Curious to see if his usage changes now that the games matter.

He can do it all and was GREAT in the red zone in college.

Very interested in his opportunity today...

 

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