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Official CJ Spiller (1 Viewer)

jmo87usc said:
 I'd rather take the chance of seeing him do well on someone else's roster than waste a spot on my own with false hope. 
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I get it and to use a Mayock expression I'm not exactly standing on a table pounding my fists for him and to use another NFL themed expression I think chances are better than not he won't provide a big payoff.

But in terms of dynasty leagues and roster most of them allow for increased or unlimited roster space this time of year and his acquisition cost in most leagues is extremely cheap. So in dynasty leagues I think he's a great low cost speculative add, if he looks great in preseason you keep him and maybe you have something and if he looks like he did last year you cut bait and move on. This time of year that should have a minimal impact on draining your dynasty roster.

Same approach I'd take in redrafts leagues that draft early. I'll take a late round shot on him, if he looks the part great and if not I'll cut.

Bottom line is I would not count on him, I would not pay a lot for him, but I'm 100% on board with picking him up as low cost acquisition to see if he looks different in camp/preseason.

 
Saints coach Sean Payton says C.J. Spiller has looked "noticeably different" this offseason.
"His health and movement skills look noticeably different," were Payton's exact words. "He worked his butt off in the offseason to get the strength back in that knee. That’s been really encouraging." For his part, Spiller still believes he can "flourish" in New Orleans. We aren't buying it. Increasingly beset by injury, Spiller's performance has been on a steady downward trajectory. Veteran beat writer Mike Triplett believes Spiller has to "outperform others in a crowded Saints backfield to secure a key role on the team." We agree.

 
Source: ESPN.com

 
The New Orleans Times-Picayune reports it's "pretty apparent" C.J. Spiller is behind Tim Hightower in the Saints' running back rotation.
The Saints have gone to great pains to talk Spiller up this offseason, but he's apparently the same place he was at the end of last season: Behind Hightower. It's an embarrassing failure for a back on a four-year, $16 million contract. Hightower hadn't touched the ball since 2011 before last November. We wouldn't consider Spiller's roster spot guaranteed.
 

Related: Tim Hightower
 
Source: Larry Holder on Twitter


 
 
C.J. Spiller (knee) said he's feeling the best he's felt since signing with the Saints.

"Just hopefully I can stay on the right track with everything, and once we kick this thing off, be ready to go," Spiller said. "I definitely feel real good." Spiller's early-season role remains uncertain, but he has volunteered to return kickoffs on top of whatever offensive role he holds. It was notable that in the preseason, Spiller ran extensively with the first-team offense as Mark Ingram's COP back.

Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune
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It seems like Spiller will be the COP back regardless, which limits his upside and makes him a very risky weekly play. And if Ingram goes down, Hightower proved himself extremely well last season after Ingram broke his [leg? forget if it was arm or leg], so it's not like Spiller has a fast track to being a feature back either. He's more like the Darren Sproles/Danny Woodhead type. In that capacity he'd have a somewhat decent upside, but still a limited role. Though I think if it's Hightower they'd be forced to give Spiller more work, so an Ingram injury does help Spiller. Just not as much as an injury to Forte would help Powell, for example. 

 
That all said, I think the Times-Picayune guy is the same beat writer who wrote last season that Spiller could catch 90 balls out of the backfield last year, so maybe take his input with a grain of salt. 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
That all said, I think the Times-Picayune guy is the same beat writer who wrote last season that Spiller could catch 90 balls out of the backfield last year, so maybe take his input with a grain of salt. 
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It's possible that the goal was for him to be that involved last year or even this year but injuries got in the way. That's essentially Spiller's whole career, what could have been if injuries hadn't gotten in the way.

 
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Wise Old Owl said:
It's possible that the goal was for him to be that involved last year or even his year but injuries got in the way. That's essentially Spiller's whole career, what could have been if injuries hadn't gotten in the way.
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Yep - funny, I was thinking of starting a topic about this. Javhed Best comes to mind, along with many others. 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
It seems like Spiller will be the COP back regardless, which limits his upside and makes him a very risky weekly play. And if Ingram goes down, Hightower proved himself extremely well last season after Ingram broke his [leg? forget if it was arm or leg], so it's not like Spiller has a fast track to being a feature back either. He's more like the Darren Sproles/Danny Woodhead type. In that capacity he'd have a somewhat decent upside, but still a limited role. Though I think if it's Hightower they'd be forced to give Spiller more work, so an Ingram injury does help Spiller. Just not as much as an injury to Forte would help Powell, for example. 
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Ingram hurt his shoulder and missed 4 games.  Put up great ppg numbers in every game he played though

 
I own Ingram and have been carrying both Hightower and Spiller all preseason.  Just dropped Spiller and have zero qualms about it.

IMO he will be the COP back and maybe 2 minute back when Ingram is healthy (maybe 6-8 touches per game), and if Ingram goes down, he'll still be the COP back to Hightower (but with more like 8-10 touches).

Either way, another back will be getting the lion's share of touches, including goal line work.  Extremely, extremely limited upside.

 
IMO Sean Payton has been trying to replace Reggie Bush since the day he left.  The Bounty Scandal and pay for play.  This team has been through a lot the past few years. I put a ceiling at Bush's best years.

The offense, when working on all cylinders uses a scat back. 

Drew Brees makes that circus go.  He has all the tools back from last year - plus now a Reggie Bush-like component, a Marques Colston-like component in Thomas and Cooks is a year farther along.  The Saint just gave Drew Brees new toys.  And no off season distractions.   I think there is a reason the Saints just resigned him,  

I'm guessing the offense will come out hot. I expect that offense to possibly challenge the all-time single season passing mark if they can stay healthy.  And they are probably going to need those points. That defense....yikes.  However, there are lots of mouths to feed now.  I think the entire team is going to get limited touches generally.  Question is what can Spiller do with the touches and does he have his speed and strength back.  

 
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I don't get it. Were they trying to trade him, so they talked him up and showcased him? He finally looks good and healthy and seemed to be the passing down RB...what happened?

 
Interesting. Wonder what his role in GB will be? Starks has been underwhelming so far: 11 carries for 10 yards. Wonder if he eats into that role?

 
I think he'll return kicks for one.  Past that I'm not sure... they haven't exactly used the RBs much to this point.  I will say they've used Cobb out of the backfield a lot, which is in an effort to get him matched up on LBs.  Maybe they're better off with Spiller in that role out of the backfield and letting Cobb stay in the slot?

 
MattFancy said:
Interesting. Wonder what his role in GB will be? Starks has been underwhelming so far: 11 carries for 10 yards. Wonder if he eats into that role?
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Starks could be most vulnerable. McCarthy has said that he needs to put more into the running game. If Starks continues to underwhelm then they'll have no choice but to look for a spark behind Lacy.

 
They could use the speed on offense.  They need a shot in the arm.  I'd rather not use Cobb between the tackles anymore.  And Spiller just might be better than Lacy on sweeps and tosses.    

 
Spiller's execution has not been good, his inability to be in the right place at the right time in the way the staff wants has been exposed over and over again. It was not his health last year that was holding him back. That's why he hasn't gotten on the field. Having said that, IMO SF should give him a call.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Spiller's execution has not been good, his inability to be in the right place at the right time in the way the staff wants has been exposed over and over again. It was not his health last year that was holding him back. That's why he hasn't gotten on the field. Having said that, IMO SF should give him a call.
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For me I can't say I agree with the bolded, his lateral cutting ability was non-existent last year and that might be his best trait. But I went to their third pre-season game against the Steelers and seeing Spiller up close in person I certainly think he was back to full health, looked explosiv. So I don't think health is why he got cut.

Maybe he did struggle with the playbook but I'll go to my grave saying he offered more to that offense than Cadet.

 
 


Jets signed RB C.J. Spiller.
Rather absurdly, the Jets are waiving Knile Davis to clear space after he was on the roster for a few hours Tuesday afternoon. Spiller was cut by the Seahawks six days ago. Bilal Powell didn't appear to aggravate his toe injury in Week 8, so the reason for Spiller's addition seems to be little more than adding depth. Spiller is reuniting with his former Bills coach Chan Gailey.

 
 
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter 
Nov 1 - 6:57 PM




 
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Logged in here to post that update. Curious about this as Gailey got the most out of him. But that offense is a mess and Spiller would need a couple weeks to get up to speed.

 
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