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OFFICIAL Detroit Lions 2010 offseason thread (1 Viewer)

I now it's only a 7th, but why give up anything for a guy who was likely to be cut?

Maybe other teams were after him?

 
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I now it's only 7th, but why give up anything for a guy who was likely to be cut?Maybe other teams were after him?
There have to be plenty of teams who would want a QB like Hill as their backup. Also, there aren't many QBs available right now, so the move was a good one in my opinion. If they let him get cut, they would risk someone else signing him. I would agree to wait until he was cut if there were other options, but there aren't many.
 
Can't understand anybody questioning giving up a single seventh round pick for NEXT year if the coaching staff wanted the player. Very cheap insurance in my opinion.

 
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Kiper, McShay agree: Lions will get Ndamukong Suh

The Detroit News

ESPN's Mel Kiper, draft expert, and Todd McShay have released their latest mock drafts for the first round. There are quite a few differences, but Kiper and McShay both have Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford going No. 1 to the Rams, Nebraska defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh going No. 2 to the Lions, and Michigan defensive end Brandon Graham heading to New England at No. 22.

Rounding out Kiper's top five are Oklahoma's defensive tackle Gerald McCoy to Tampa Bay, Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen to Washington and Tennessee safety Eric Berry to Kansas City.

McShay's top five is the same except that he has Oklahoma State offensive tackle Russell Okung going to Washington.
 
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Kiper, McShay agree: Lions will get Ndamukong Suh

The Detroit News

ESPN's Mel Kiper, draft expert, and Todd McShay have released their latest mock drafts for the first round. There are quite a few differences, but Kiper and McShay both have Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford going No. 1 to the Rams, Nebraska defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh going No. 2 to the Lions, and Michigan defensive end Brandon Graham heading to New England at No. 22.

Rounding out Kiper's top five are Oklahoma's defensive tackle Gerald McCoy to Tampa Bay, Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen to Washington and Tennessee safety Eric Berry to Kansas City.

McShay's top five is the same except that he has Oklahoma State offensive tackle Russell Okung going to Washington.
Yeah most every mock now has Bradford going #1. I will be giddy as a school boy if we get Suh... our horrible defense will have grown tremendously in one offseason.. :bag:
 
The Lions traded their 6th and swapped 5ths with Atlanta for CB Chris Houston. They also signed CB Jonathan Wade. Both are 3rd year players.I like the Houston trade. He has played decent at times and for the small cost we paid it was a solid deal. He will compete to start. Wade is an interesting prospect. I'm not expecting much but if he turns out to be a decent nickel or dime corner I'll be happy. These 2 are instantly the best corners on the roster...which tells why they went after both. There was literally no corners on the roster. I'm really hoping they use the 2.02 and/or the 3.02 on corners.
Yes, we now have 2 CB's under contract and I think this is still the weakest position of the team. What CB will be there at 2.02 that is worth the pick? Kareem Jackson? I can see the Lions making a bonehead move like Jahvid Best here.
As much as we need CBs, I think they would be all over Best if he somehow fell this far. I highly doubt that happens though. Personally, I would not have a problem with them taking Best if he is the highest player on their board. I don't want them to take a CB just to take a CB and the way they drafted last year (pretty much BPA), I doubt they will.
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I now it's only 7th, but why give up anything for a guy who was likely to be cut?Maybe other teams were after him?
There have to be plenty of teams who would want a QB like Hill as their backup. Also, there aren't many QBs available right now, so the move was a good one in my opinion. If they let him get cut, they would risk someone else signing him. I would agree to wait until he was cut if there were other options, but there aren't many.
The Lions used the 7th round pick they got from the Jets for that former NE backup QB last year. I think.
 
Lions | May look to take Best in second round

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John Niyo, of the Detroit News, reports the Detroit Lions may look to take University of California RB Jahvid Best in the second round if he is available.

 
I think Detroit has done a solid job so far this off season. Wasn't wild about Burleson but this team is going to start being competitive and a franchise LT named Okung is going toreally start to mold this offense. I hope the fans of Detroit are on the elevator up. I like Stafford, he has some weapons now at his disposal, defense is a work in progress but I'll watch 38-35 shootouts in Detroit, no problem.

 
Da Guru said:
What ever happened to Drew Stanton? Is he still with the team?
He's still there and probably going to be 3rd string again.
Drew Stanton can`t play in this league.
:lmao: Hopefully there will be a vet out there after the cuts that can replace him.
Why would a vet want to be a 3rd stringer? The only way Stanton isn't the 3rd stringer is if they draft a QB.
There are only so many QB jobs in the NFL (3 x 32). 3rd string for the Lions > out of the league. But you are right in that they may draft one late to compete for the #3.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
I think Detroit has done a solid job so far this off season. Wasn't wild about Burleson but this team is going to start being competitive and a franchise LT named Okung is going toreally start to mold this offense. I hope the fans of Detroit are on the elevator up. I like Stafford, he has some weapons now at his disposal, defense is a work in progress but I'll watch 38-35 shootouts in Detroit, no problem.
The Lions have one of the historically worst D's in the league. If they pass on Suh it will be a monumental blunder, so Im expecting it, very Lion like
 
Ministry of Pain said:
I think Detroit has done a solid job so far this off season. Wasn't wild about Burleson but this team is going to start being competitive and a franchise LT named Okung is going toreally start to mold this offense. I hope the fans of Detroit are on the elevator up. I like Stafford, he has some weapons now at his disposal, defense is a work in progress but I'll watch 38-35 shootouts in Detroit, no problem.
The Lions have one of the historically worst D's in the league. If they pass on Suh it will be a monumental blunder, so Im expecting it, very Lion like
Depends on the perceived drop from their top rated OL to the guys available in the later rounds. They must do something to protect their new franchise QB, esp playing in a division that now features two of the best DEs in the league.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
I think Detroit has done a solid job so far this off season. Wasn't wild about Burleson but this team is going to start being competitive and a franchise LT named Okung is going toreally start to mold this offense. I hope the fans of Detroit are on the elevator up. I like Stafford, he has some weapons now at his disposal, defense is a work in progress but I'll watch 38-35 shootouts in Detroit, no problem.
The Lions have one of the historically worst D's in the league. If they pass on Suh it will be a monumental blunder, so Im expecting it, very Lion like
Depends on the perceived drop from their top rated OL to the guys available in the later rounds. They must do something to protect their new franchise QB, esp playing in a division that now features two of the best DEs in the league.
true, considering their investment in Stafford, and the gaping holes they have across the team, going O-Line might not be a horrible idea.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
I think Detroit has done a solid job so far this off season. Wasn't wild about Burleson but this team is going to start being competitive and a franchise LT named Okung is going toreally start to mold this offense. I hope the fans of Detroit are on the elevator up. I like Stafford, he has some weapons now at his disposal, defense is a work in progress but I'll watch 38-35 shootouts in Detroit, no problem.
The Lions have one of the historically worst D's in the league. If they pass on Suh it will be a monumental blunder, so Im expecting it, very Lion like
Depends on the perceived drop from their top rated OL to the guys available in the later rounds. They must do something to protect their new franchise QB, esp playing in a division that now features two of the best DEs in the league.
true, considering their investment in Stafford, and the gaping holes they have across the team, going O-Line might not be a horrible idea.
OL withthe 1st pick of the 2nd round with Suh in the 1st is what I wouldn't mind seeing.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
I think Detroit has done a solid job so far this off season. Wasn't wild about Burleson but this team is going to start being competitive and a franchise LT named Okung is going toreally start to mold this offense. I hope the fans of Detroit are on the elevator up. I like Stafford, he has some weapons now at his disposal, defense is a work in progress but I'll watch 38-35 shootouts in Detroit, no problem.
The Lions have one of the historically worst D's in the league. If they pass on Suh it will be a monumental blunder, so Im expecting it, very Lion like
Depends on the perceived drop from their top rated OL to the guys available in the later rounds. They must do something to protect their new franchise QB, esp playing in a division that now features two of the best DEs in the league.
true, considering their investment in Stafford, and the gaping holes they have across the team, going O-Line might not be a horrible idea.
OL withthe 1st pick of the 2nd round with Suh in the 1st is what I wouldn't mind seeing.
This.
 
OL withthe 1st pick of the 2nd round with Suh in the 1st is what I wouldn't mind seeing.
This.
Either way I wouldnt call it a monumental blunder, it all depends on the draft grades. Even if Suh is the real deal but the Lions get a franchise LT they still come out ahead.
:( Its not like they are gonna take a WR or a RB or something here. The pick is going to go to one of the lines. While I would prefer the D-Line and Suh/McCoy, I wouldn't be upset if they took Okung, assuming they think he is franchise caliber LT.
 
OL withthe 1st pick of the 2nd round with Suh in the 1st is what I wouldn't mind seeing.
This.
Either way I wouldnt call it a monumental blunder, it all depends on the draft grades. Even if Suh is the real deal but the Lions get a franchise LT they still come out ahead.
:wolf: Its not like they are gonna take a WR or a RB or something here. The pick is going to go to one of the lines. While I would prefer the D-Line and Suh/McCoy, I wouldn't be upset if they took Okung, assuming they think he is franchise caliber LT.
thats the thing, I dont think he is a franchise OT, I dont think he will grade that high either. So it's probably dont matter. These guys doing thing mock have the Lions drafting for need rather than BPA. There is the financial consideration for #2 overall, not sure a DT is where they want to spend that money. Who knows?
 
It's hard to quantify, that's for sure. It may come down to which position has a bigger "dropoff" in their mind's at the beginning of the 2nd round. Will there be a better OL or DT at that point, if they consider the 1st round guys to be somewhat equal?

 
Mayhew drafted according to his board last year and I expect the same this year.
Julius Peppers(twice), Jared Allen(twice), Clay Mathews (twice), that is 3 guys that are capable of disrupting a lot of your offense for almost half the season...you better keep Stafford uprgight if you have any chance at all. Suh would help their DL tremendously and give them quite a force inside at DT, something they are not known for. I could be on board for a DT in the 1st and then someone else in the 2nd but I think they could find another DT in the 2nd that is decent. Not many pure LT that can play directly from college. Okung though has been losing a bit of steam the past few days, all rumors though.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
Anthony Borbely said:
Mayhew drafted according to his board last year and I expect the same this year.
Julius Peppers(twice), Jared Allen(twice), Clay Mathews (twice), that is 3 guys that are capable of disrupting a lot of your offense for almost half the season...you better keep Stafford uprgight if you have any chance at all. Suh would help their DL tremendously and give them quite a force inside at DT, something they are not known for. I could be on board for a DT in the 1st and then someone else in the 2nd but I think they could find another DT in the 2nd that is decent. Not many pure LT that can play directly from college. Okung though has been losing a bit of steam the past few days, all rumors though.
I think the main argument on the DT @ #2 side is that Okung is just not a "franchise" LT in the mold of Jake Long, etc. And that the main problem on the OL is not LT, it's LG. Adding to that, Suh grades out higher than Okung anyway and the Lions will take talent over need even though they signed Williams at DT already.Yes, the Lions need to improve the OL. But the biggest glaring hole is DL as evidenced by the worst ranked defense for 2 years running now. Lions have proved that they can score on offense, but they have also proved they absolutely can't stop any team in the league from scoring on them.That said, I would be happy either way. Just think, we're arguing over which LINEMAN they should draft... not a QB/WR/RB... things are slowly improving.
 
Pacman next? From PFT.

"Mayhew said he's been talking to Lions coach Jim Schwartz, who coached Jones for two seasons in Tennessee, as well as Deion Sanders, who has mentored Jones and who was a teammate of Mayhew's at Florida State. So far, Mayhew says, he's encouraged by what he's hearing.

"He hasn't been in trouble for almost two years now," Mayhew said. "That's a pretty big hoop to jump through."

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Anthony Borbely said:
Mayhew drafted according to his board last year and I expect the same this year.
Julius Peppers(twice), Jared Allen(twice), Clay Mathews (twice), that is 3 guys that are capable of disrupting a lot of your offense for almost half the season...you better keep Stafford uprgight if you have any chance at all. Suh would help their DL tremendously and give them quite a force inside at DT, something they are not known for. I could be on board for a DT in the 1st and then someone else in the 2nd but I think they could find another DT in the 2nd that is decent. Not many pure LT that can play directly from college. Okung though has been losing a bit of steam the past few days, all rumors though.
The thing about the Lions is they've NEVER had a good defense, at least not since Super Bowl 1 and beyond. When the Lions were decent, it was because they had Barry, a decent line and some pretty good receivers.If you want to change things around in Detroit and do something different.......bring a Defense to the D. You are right, you can't let Stafford just get pounded on either, there are a ton of holes in Detroit but I'd like to see a concentrated effort to build a defense the next couple of years. Hopefully, they can draft some guys in the deeper rounds that some offensive lineman can step in and play. It's rare but not unheard of where a 4th, 5th or 6th round offensive lineman can come in on a team and make an impact.
 
I like all the Lions moves this year. Is Bryant Johnson still there? He made a name for himself as a slot receiver and can still be productive there. Vandenbosch should be fine in the defense with Schwarz there. Corey Williams is also versatile enough to be a running down DE so DL depth is a must. Hill may start.

And concerning their first rounder, they need to trade it. Suh is unproven professionally and the Lions would do better financially and teamwise with either a whole bunch of picks or a player/picks package. Suh should be demanded by a lot of teams and I can see somebody trading the kitchen sink to get him. Suh could fit in an be productive, but he had better dominate the trenches for the money he is going to be paid. If they can get out of the lottery, they could easily speed their recovery (if there is to be one).

And a Kevin smith/ best combo could kill.

 
I like all the Lions moves this year. Is Bryant Johnson still there? He made a name for himself as a slot receiver and can still be productive there. Vandenbosch should be fine in the defense with Schwarz there. Corey Williams is also versatile enough to be a running down DE so DL depth is a must. Hill may start.

And concerning their first rounder, they need to trade it. Suh is unproven professionally and the Lions would do better financially and teamwise with either a whole bunch of picks or a player/picks package. Suh should be demanded by a lot of teams and I can see somebody trading the kitchen sink to get him. Suh could fit in an be productive, but he had better dominate the trenches for the money he is going to be paid. If they can get out of the lottery, they could easily speed their recovery (if there is to be one).

And a Kevin smith/ best combo could kill.
:banned: = bolded.The lions cupboard is bare, they need EVERYTHING, except WR1, QB, TE and a Saftey.

These Dline move are encouraging but really they cant get cute, they have to take the BEST PLAYER. period. Suh IMO has the potential to be a dominate Warren Sapp type DT. Cant see how you pass on him.

 
I like all the Lions moves this year. Is Bryant Johnson still there? He made a name for himself as a slot receiver and can still be productive there. Vandenbosch should be fine in the defense with Schwarz there. Corey Williams is also versatile enough to be a running down DE so DL depth is a must. Hill may start.

And concerning their first rounder, they need to trade it. Suh is unproven professionally and the Lions would do better financially and teamwise with either a whole bunch of picks or a player/picks package. Suh should be demanded by a lot of teams and I can see somebody trading the kitchen sink to get him. Suh could fit in an be productive, but he had better dominate the trenches for the money he is going to be paid. If they can get out of the lottery, they could easily speed their recovery (if there is to be one).

And a Kevin smith/ best combo could kill.
Everyone in the draft is unproven professionally.
 
Mayhew drafted according to his board last year and I expect the same this year.
Julius Peppers(twice), Jared Allen(twice), Clay Mathews (twice), that is 3 guys that are capable of disrupting a lot of your offense for almost half the season...you better keep Stafford uprgight if you have any chance at all. Suh would help their DL tremendously and give them quite a force inside at DT, something they are not known for. I could be on board for a DT in the 1st and then someone else in the 2nd but I think they could find another DT in the 2nd that is decent. Not many pure LT that can play directly from college. Okung though has been losing a bit of steam the past few days, all rumors though.
The thing about the Lions is they've NEVER had a good defense, at least not since Super Bowl 1 and beyond. When the Lions were decent, it was because they had Barry, a decent line and some pretty good receivers.If you want to change things around in Detroit and do something different.......bring a Defense to the D. You are right, you can't let Stafford just get pounded on either, there are a ton of holes in Detroit but I'd like to see a concentrated effort to build a defense the next couple of years. Hopefully, they can draft some guys in the deeper rounds that some offensive lineman can step in and play. It's rare but not unheard of where a 4th, 5th or 6th round offensive lineman can come in on a team and make an impact.
After seeing the way Det drafted last year I'm fairly confident that they are going to be going BPA. Figuring out who that would be is difficult though as 2 different teams can drastically rank the same players. It seems pretty concise that the best overall players and guys who will get the top grades in this class are Suh, McCoy and Berry though. Everyone seems to think that if Det is to draft a DT it is going to be Suh but I think McCoy is being underrated by a lot of people and IMO McCoy is probably ahead of Suh on a lot of teams boards. Is Det one of them? I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me. One thing is for certain none of the tackles would be BPA at the 2 spot. This is why Det is so hell bent on trying to trade the pick IMO but in the end they won't be able to and will take one of the 3 guys above.
 
Mayhew drafted according to his board last year and I expect the same this year.
Julius Peppers(twice), Jared Allen(twice), Clay Mathews (twice), that is 3 guys that are capable of disrupting a lot of your offense for almost half the season...you better keep Stafford uprgight if you have any chance at all. Suh would help their DL tremendously and give them quite a force inside at DT, something they are not known for. I could be on board for a DT in the 1st and then someone else in the 2nd but I think they could find another DT in the 2nd that is decent. Not many pure LT that can play directly from college. Okung though has been losing a bit of steam the past few days, all rumors though.
The thing about the Lions is they've NEVER had a good defense, at least not since Super Bowl 1 and beyond. When the Lions were decent, it was because they had Barry, a decent line and some pretty good receivers.If you want to change things around in Detroit and do something different.......bring a Defense to the D. You are right, you can't let Stafford just get pounded on either, there are a ton of holes in Detroit but I'd like to see a concentrated effort to build a defense the next couple of years. Hopefully, they can draft some guys in the deeper rounds that some offensive lineman can step in and play. It's rare but not unheard of where a 4th, 5th or 6th round offensive lineman can come in on a team and make an impact.
After seeing the way Det drafted last year I'm fairly confident that they are going to be going BPA. Figuring out who that would be is difficult though as 2 different teams can drastically rank the same players. It seems pretty concise that the best overall players and guys who will get the top grades in this class are Suh, McCoy and Berry though. Everyone seems to think that if Det is to draft a DT it is going to be Suh but I think McCoy is being underrated by a lot of people and IMO McCoy is probably ahead of Suh on a lot of teams boards. Is Det one of them? I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me. One thing is for certain none of the tackles would be BPA at the 2 spot. This is why Det is so hell bent on trying to trade the pick IMO but in the end they won't be able to and will take one of the 3 guys above.
I agree with BPA through the entire draft for the Lions minus WR and QB. I like McCoy too and that's why I love the Lions pick at NO. 2 because even if the Rams went Suh, we'd be able to take McCoy who could end up being a better defensive player. If there were only 1 of those guys and then some great WR (like Calvin Johnson) on the board I'd hate being NO. 2. I think the Lions are in a good position at 2 and will get a defensive staple to build around on their team but I do hopes they get Suh but I feel good about both.
 
http://www.locksmithsportspicks.com/2010-n...it-lions-32510/

2010 NFL Mock Draft: Detroit Lions

Written by Jimmy Boyd on March 25, 2010

Detroit knows it must get better defensively in order to compete in the NFC North. The team has taken some steps toward doing so already this offseason with the signing of defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch and trading for defensive tackle Corey Williams. We expect Detroit to continue to build on the defensive side of the ball through the draft this year. In this article, we’ll take a quick look at how the Lions might try to spend its early draft picks. Looking for a place to bet your NFL picks in 2010? Bet on the NFL at BetUS where our readers get up to 145% in sign up bonuses!

1. Defensive Tackle – Defensive tackle may not be Detroit’s biggest need, but it will be very hard for the Lions to pass up Nebraska’s Ndamukong Suh with the No. 2 overall pick in the draft. Oklahoma’s Gerald McCoy is another option, but I’m bigger on Suh. All any NFL team needs to do is watch his performance in the Big 12 Championship Game against Texas last season and they will be sold. Adding Suh to their front line, along with the aforementioned additions, gives the Lions a chance to make some serious strides in 2010. Plus, Lions head coach Jim Schwartz coached Albert Haynesworth once upon a time when he was on the Titans’ staff. Doesn’t Suh kind of remind you of Haynesworth?

2. Cornerback – This could be Detroit’s biggest problem area. Detroit’s goal will be to land a starter in the defensive backfield in this year’s draft. If the Lions decide to trade down, they could go with a guy like Florida’s Joe Haden. That’s probably not a very likely scenario. What is a more likely scenario would be going after a guy like Oklahoma State’s Perrish Cox in round two or Alabama’s Javier Arenas in round three. Arenas may be intriguing because he is also a proven return man, another area the Lions need to improve. Cox has the aggressiveness and willingness to help support the run and the athletic ability and coverage skills to be an effective corner. Scouts have said he reminds them of the Chargers’ Quentin Jammer. A knock on Arenas is that he is only 5-foot-8. Many see him more as a nickel back instead of an every down guy, but I think he could prove some folks wrong because of his toughness.

3. Running Back – With Kevin Smith recovering from a torn ACL and a separated shoulder, the Lions could look to add a player at the running back position, ideally a more explosive runner than Smith. Clemson’s C.J. Spiller and Cal’s Jahvid Best are the type of game-breakers that would suit the Lions. Best could still be around in round two. He’s probably not an every down back in the pros, but he could be a good complimentary back like Reggie Bush is for the Saints.

If you’re looking for help in beating the NFL odds this season, then make sure you’re playing alongside world champion handicapper Jimmy Boyd. His football picks will keep you cashing clear through the Super Bowl.

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...-chris-houston/

The Falcons announced that, in exchange, they'd receive Detroit's sixth-round pick in the 2010 draft, along with a swap of fifth-round selections.

A league source tells us, however, that the ultimate price was even lower than that.

Per the source, the Lions ultimately gave up a sixth-round pick this year and a conditional seventh-round pick in 2011. The swap of fifth-round selections has been scuttled.

So what happened? According to a separate source, the Lions contacted the Falcons and said that Houston could not pass the physical imposed by Lions' doctors. We're told that the Lions also said that perhaps Houston could pass the physical if the terms of the deal were adjusted.

And so the terms of the deal were adjusted, and Houston passed the physical.

 
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Latest rumor, Detroit looking to trade with Seattle for LG Sims.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/03/31/lions-mulling-deal-for-sims/

I have no idea who this guy is, or if he's potentially worth a 4th rounder which is the compensation Seattle would require.
Looks like it's done. No word on compensation yet.

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2010/...rade_for_r.html

Edit to add: Schefter reporting on Twitter it'll be a fifth rounder.
Kowalski said they traded a 5th rounder.
 
Latest rumor, Detroit looking to trade with Seattle for LG Sims.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/03/31/lions-mulling-deal-for-sims/

I have no idea who this guy is, or if he's potentially worth a 4th rounder which is the compensation Seattle would require.
Looks like it's done. No word on compensation yet.

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2010/...rade_for_r.html

Edit to add: Schefter reporting on Twitter it'll be a fifth rounder.
Kowalski said they traded a 5th rounder.
So this is what it's like to have a real GM running the show...Love all the moves this offseason, and now we're perfectly set up to take Suh with the #2 pick. Things are looking up

 
Latest reports I read is that it's Sims + 7th Rounder for 5th Rounder and Robert Henderson (DE --- Who????)

 

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