Official Dez Bryant (2 Viewers)

[comfortably numb]

It's not a team I'm rooting for or supporting. There was a basketball player a few years back that was accused of dog fighting. He was terminated from the team. It was a class act by the team. Another NBA team picked him up. I'll never support the other team, I will support the team that released him.

Michael Vick committed a heinous crime. Because of that he did a couple years in jail. He also cost himself millions of dollars due to his stupidity.

Andy Reid hired Michael Vick to play for the Eagles because he thought there was a chance that Vick could be a great QB for the Eagles. In addition, he also wanted to give a young man who had messed up a chance to redeem himself (something he could not do for his son who OD'ed). If Vick messed up in any way, he would have been cut immediately. He did not. He turned his life around. His biggest contribution to the Eagles was probably not on the field, but in the lockerroom. He took a volatile situation with a rookie head coach and a teammate who made racist statements (Cooper) and calmed everything down. This led to Cooper having the best year of his career.

We all mess up in some way. Some of us mess up criminally. Some of us mess up publicly. Some do both. I just hope that when you mess up and need someone to help you, forgive you, or stand in your corner, you have somebody there for you. Even if you appear unwilling to do the same for other people.

We all do, but CE doesn't

Fact.

What about the dogs Michael Vick either directly or indirectly strangled, electrocuted, and drowned? Do they get a second chance? Maybe they did get a second chance and just didn't want to attempt to rip that other dogs face off, which was across the pit from them, with people screaming at them from the sidelines - tough second chance they might have got there.

People that are willing to treat other living objects like that really don't deserve a second chance in my book. I don't know, maybe I just never saw the thrill in burning ants with a magnifying glass as a kid... I guess I'm just not a sociopath and I don't believe that behavior is ever really gone from a person. It's certainly not gone because you lost millions of dollars, spent a few years in jail, and came back to get a second chance by Andy Reid to make millions again.

Making a mistake? Sure, you deserve a second chance. If Dez Bryant beat up his girlfriend in a parking lot? That's one helluva a mistake. He deserves to be punished for it. What's the punishment? I have no idea, but the idea that because he got away with it 4 years ago so now it should go unpunished doesn't sit well for me.

You are fully entitled to not support a company that employs the type of people that do things you find abhorrent. Fine. No problem. But the NFL employs Michael Vick. You can try and spin it any way you want but the NFL employs him so why are you still supporting this company? You condemn others, linking their support of the NFL as tacit approval for dog killing etc, yet somehow you are above this because you don't support the 'team' he plays for. At least be consistent in your application of what you deem unacceptable.

Who cuts his checks - the NFL or the Philadelphia Eagles? Who gave him the contract - the NFL or the Philadelphia Eagles?

I'm absolutely consistent in my application of what I deem acceptable. I'll never buy a piece of Iggles or Jets merchandise.

If people want to make the argument that the NFL employs him, I disagree. A team choose to sign him, just like a team can choose to sign Ray Rice. So which team is going to look at their PR department and say, "Well, get ready..."? Because the NFL is in charge of the teams but the teams choose who they sign to represent them. It's not a hard concept, sorry so many of you have difficulty accepting it.

If the company you currently work for knowingly employs a dog killer or wife beater do you quit your job? Take a leave of absence?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

So if u are a fan of the nfl, and the nfl employs vick, then you too must be ok with killing dogs.

just singleing out jets or eagles fans for that is hilarious.

The way I look at it is the NFL doesn't employ Vick, the Jets do. I understand revenue sharing and "duh shield" and all of that, but I don't think you'll see a organization like the Packers or Patriots employing guys like that anytime soon.

Lmao

 

[Old Smiley]

I will never like Vick. I'll be glad when he retires. I kind of like the Jets, so I wasn't happy when they acquired him. Didn't like when the Eagles gave him all that money and was glad when it blew up.

 

[-CE-]

It's not a team I'm rooting for or supporting. There was a basketball player a few years back that was accused of dog fighting. He was terminated from the team. It was a class act by the team. Another NBA team picked him up. I'll never support the other team, I will support the team that released him.

Michael Vick committed a heinous crime. Because of that he did a couple years in jail. He also cost himself millions of dollars due to his stupidity.

Andy Reid hired Michael Vick to play for the Eagles because he thought there was a chance that Vick could be a great QB for the Eagles. In addition, he also wanted to give a young man who had messed up a chance to redeem himself (something he could not do for his son who OD'ed). If Vick messed up in any way, he would have been cut immediately. He did not. He turned his life around. His biggest contribution to the Eagles was probably not on the field, but in the lockerroom. He took a volatile situation with a rookie head coach and a teammate who made racist statements (Cooper) and calmed everything down. This led to Cooper having the best year of his career.

We all mess up in some way. Some of us mess up criminally. Some of us mess up publicly. Some do both. I just hope that when you mess up and need someone to help you, forgive you, or stand in your corner, you have somebody there for you. Even if you appear unwilling to do the same for other people.

We all do, but CE doesn't

Fact.

What about the dogs Michael Vick either directly or indirectly strangled, electrocuted, and drowned? Do they get a second chance? Maybe they did get a second chance and just didn't want to attempt to rip that other dogs face off, which was across the pit from them, with people screaming at them from the sidelines - tough second chance they might have got there.

People that are willing to treat other living objects like that really don't deserve a second chance in my book. I don't know, maybe I just never saw the thrill in burning ants with a magnifying glass as a kid... I guess I'm just not a sociopath and I don't believe that behavior is ever really gone from a person. It's certainly not gone because you lost millions of dollars, spent a few years in jail, and came back to get a second chance by Andy Reid to make millions again.

Making a mistake? Sure, you deserve a second chance. If Dez Bryant beat up his girlfriend in a parking lot? That's one helluva a mistake. He deserves to be punished for it. What's the punishment? I have no idea, but the idea that because he got away with it 4 years ago so now it should go unpunished doesn't sit well for me.

You are fully entitled to not support a company that employs the type of people that do things you find abhorrent. Fine. No problem. But the NFL employs Michael Vick. You can try and spin it any way you want but the NFL employs him so why are you still supporting this company? You condemn others, linking their support of the NFL as tacit approval for dog killing etc, yet somehow you are above this because you don't support the 'team' he plays for. At least be consistent in your application of what you deem unacceptable.

Who cuts his checks - the NFL or the Philadelphia Eagles? Who gave him the contract - the NFL or the Philadelphia Eagles?

I'm absolutely consistent in my application of what I deem acceptable. I'll never buy a piece of Iggles or Jets merchandise.

If people want to make the argument that the NFL employs him, I disagree. A team choose to sign him, just like a team can choose to sign Ray Rice. So which team is going to look at their PR department and say, "Well, get ready..."? Because the NFL is in charge of the teams but the teams choose who they sign to represent them. It's not a hard concept, sorry so many of you have difficulty accepting it.

If the company you currently work for knowingly employs a dog killer or wife beater do you quit your job? Take a leave of absence?

I can pretty much guarantee you that you'd never find me working for a company that would knowingly employ either of these things. For certain the company I work for now never would.

 

[-CE-]

Who cuts his checks - the NFL or the Philadelphia Eagles? Who gave him the contract - the NFL or the Philadelphia Eagles?

I'm absolutely consistent in my application of what I deem acceptable. I'll never buy a piece of Iggles or Jets merchandise.

If people want to make the argument that the NFL employs him, I disagree. A team choose to sign him, just like a team can choose to sign Ray Rice. So which team is going to look at their PR department and say, "Well, get ready..."? Because the NFL is in charge of the teams but the teams choose who they sign to represent them. It's not a hard concept, sorry so many of you have difficulty accepting it.

dude please quit...your bs was almost funny at first....now you are just making an ### of yourself

Hope that isn't a hard concept for you to understand

So you're of the mindset that the NFL chooses which players will play for which teams?

The NFL hands out punishments. The teams choose which character issues they are willing to accept as a part of their culture.

If you disagree, well, you're wrong.

 

[comfortably numb]

It's not a team I'm rooting for or supporting. There was a basketball player a few years back that was accused of dog fighting. He was terminated from the team. It was a class act by the team. Another NBA team picked him up. I'll never support the other team, I will support the team that released him.

Michael Vick committed a heinous crime. Because of that he did a couple years in jail. He also cost himself millions of dollars due to his stupidity.

Andy Reid hired Michael Vick to play for the Eagles because he thought there was a chance that Vick could be a great QB for the Eagles. In addition, he also wanted to give a young man who had messed up a chance to redeem himself (something he could not do for his son who OD'ed). If Vick messed up in any way, he would have been cut immediately. He did not. He turned his life around. His biggest contribution to the Eagles was probably not on the field, but in the lockerroom. He took a volatile situation with a rookie head coach and a teammate who made racist statements (Cooper) and calmed everything down. This led to Cooper having the best year of his career.

We all mess up in some way. Some of us mess up criminally. Some of us mess up publicly. Some do both. I just hope that when you mess up and need someone to help you, forgive you, or stand in your corner, you have somebody there for you. Even if you appear unwilling to do the same for other people.

We all do, but CE doesn't

Fact.

What about the dogs Michael Vick either directly or indirectly strangled, electrocuted, and drowned? Do they get a second chance? Maybe they did get a second chance and just didn't want to attempt to rip that other dogs face off, which was across the pit from them, with people screaming at them from the sidelines - tough second chance they might have got there.

People that are willing to treat other living objects like that really don't deserve a second chance in my book. I don't know, maybe I just never saw the thrill in burning ants with a magnifying glass as a kid... I guess I'm just not a sociopath and I don't believe that behavior is ever really gone from a person. It's certainly not gone because you lost millions of dollars, spent a few years in jail, and came back to get a second chance by Andy Reid to make millions again.

Making a mistake? Sure, you deserve a second chance. If Dez Bryant beat up his girlfriend in a parking lot? That's one helluva a mistake. He deserves to be punished for it. What's the punishment? I have no idea, but the idea that because he got away with it 4 years ago so now it should go unpunished doesn't sit well for me.

You are fully entitled to not support a company that employs the type of people that do things you find abhorrent. Fine. No problem. But the NFL employs Michael Vick. You can try and spin it any way you want but the NFL employs him so why are you still supporting this company? You condemn others, linking their support of the NFL as tacit approval for dog killing etc, yet somehow you are above this because you don't support the 'team' he plays for. At least be consistent in your application of what you deem unacceptable.

Who cuts his checks - the NFL or the Philadelphia Eagles? Who gave him the contract - the NFL or the Philadelphia Eagles?

I'm absolutely consistent in my application of what I deem acceptable. I'll never buy a piece of Iggles or Jets merchandise.

If people want to make the argument that the NFL employs him, I disagree. A team choose to sign him, just like a team can choose to sign Ray Rice. So which team is going to look at their PR department and say, "Well, get ready..."? Because the NFL is in charge of the teams but the teams choose who they sign to represent them. It's not a hard concept, sorry so many of you have difficulty accepting it.

If the company you currently work for knowingly employs a dog killer or wife beater do you quit your job? Take a leave of absence?

I can pretty much guarantee you that you'd never find me working for a company that would knowingly employ either of these things. For certain the company I work for now never would.

Thanks for not answering the question

 

[-CE-]

I'm absolutely consistent in my application of what I deem acceptable. I'll never buy a piece of Iggles or Jets merchandise.

If people want to make the argument that the NFL employs him, I disagree. A team choose to sign him, just like a team can choose to sign Ray Rice. So which team is going to look at their PR department and say, "Well, get ready..."? Because the NFL is in charge of the teams but the teams choose who they sign to represent them. It's not a hard concept, sorry so many of you have difficulty accepting it.

If the company you currently work for knowingly employs a dog killer or wife beater do you quit your job? Take a leave of absence?

I can pretty much guarantee you that you'd never find me working for a company that would knowingly employ either of these things. For certain the company I work for now never would.

Thanks for not answering the question

OK, to put it another way, yes, I'd absolutely quit my company if it did that.

I don't expect everyone to do the same, but yea, I'm not going to work next to a guy who has killed dogs.

Let me just preempt you with: NFL players choose to sign contracts for teams.

 

[Penguin]

The police incident report. (allegedly)

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/photo/2015/02/26/0ap3000000474214.pdf

 

[comfortably numb]

I'm absolutely consistent in my application of what I deem acceptable. I'll never buy a piece of Iggles or Jets merchandise.

If people want to make the argument that the NFL employs him, I disagree. A team choose to sign him, just like a team can choose to sign Ray Rice. So which team is going to look at their PR department and say, "Well, get ready..."? Because the NFL is in charge of the teams but the teams choose who they sign to represent them. It's not a hard concept, sorry so many of you have difficulty accepting it.

If the company you currently work for knowingly employs a dog killer or wife beater do you quit your job? Take a leave of absence?

I can pretty much guarantee you that you'd never find me working for a company that would knowingly employ either of these things. For certain the company I work for now never would.

Thanks for not answering the question

OK, to put it another way, yes, I'd absolutely quit my company if it did that.

I don't expect everyone to do the same, but yea, I'm not going to work next to a guy who has killed dogs.

Let me just preempt you with: NFL players choose to sign contracts for teams.

Lol

Great shtick

 

[-CE-]

The police incident report. (allegedly)

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/photo/2015/02/26/0ap3000000474214.pdf

So this Alex Penson guy might not exist?

He's not listed as another involved party, birth date is unknown.

Sounds like Dez drug this lady from her car to his then came back.

 

[-CE-]

I'm absolutely consistent in my application of what I deem acceptable. I'll never buy a piece of Iggles or Jets merchandise.

If people want to make the argument that the NFL employs him, I disagree. A team choose to sign him, just like a team can choose to sign Ray Rice. So which team is going to look at their PR department and say, "Well, get ready..."? Because the NFL is in charge of the teams but the teams choose who they sign to represent them. It's not a hard concept, sorry so many of you have difficulty accepting it.

If the company you currently work for knowingly employs a dog killer or wife beater do you quit your job? Take a leave of absence?

I can pretty much guarantee you that you'd never find me working for a company that would knowingly employ either of these things. For certain the company I work for now never would.

Thanks for not answering the question

OK, to put it another way, yes, I'd absolutely quit my company if it did that.

I don't expect everyone to do the same, but yea, I'm not going to work next to a guy who has killed dogs.

Let me just preempt you with: NFL players choose to sign contracts for teams.

Lol

Great shtick

What's the shtick? Sorry if you're unable to move freely from one company to another, believe it or not... it's not difficult.

 

[-CE-]

Who cuts his checks - the NFL or the Philadelphia Eagles? Who gave him the contract - the NFL or the Philadelphia Eagles?

I'm absolutely consistent in my application of what I deem acceptable. I'll never buy a piece of Iggles or Jets merchandise.

If people want to make the argument that the NFL employs him, I disagree. A team choose to sign him, just like a team can choose to sign Ray Rice. So which team is going to look at their PR department and say, "Well, get ready..."? Because the NFL is in charge of the teams but the teams choose who they sign to represent them. It's not a hard concept, sorry so many of you have difficulty accepting it.

dude please quit...your bs was almost funny at first....now you are just making an ### of yourself

Hope that isn't a hard concept for you to understand

So you're of the mindset that the NFL chooses which players will play for which teams?

The NFL hands out punishments. The teams choose which character issues they are willing to accept as a part of their culture.

If you disagree, well, you're wrong.

No...I am of the mindset that I am here for FF discussion, about a "Fantasy" game......not to hear you spew your self-righteous point of view

Then why aren't you asking questions about FF? Seems to me you've mislead yourself a little bit.

Basically none of this thread is about FF. It's about Dez Bryant and his transgressions. If you want to reverse and go back to the original statement, you'll find that some morons don't think Dez should be punished for his actions because they occurred in the past.

You're also free to scroll right on by anything that isn't FF. Sorry if you're too stupid to tell the difference and must read everything in front of you.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Dez Bryant is and has been one of the best wide receivers in The NFL. Nothing has changed.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

You're also free to scroll right on by anything that isn't FF. Sorry if you're too stupid to tell the difference and must read everything in front of you.
If you want to reverse and go back to the original statement, you'll find that some morons don't think Dez should be punished for his actions because they occurred in the past.

Hey CE, I know you're passionate about your position, but continuing to use name calling to describe anyone not agreeing with your position will just get you banned. It isn't necessary, and isn't appreciated by either the posters or the mods. Just a fair warning. Turn it down a notch or three.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Bazinga and CE, please let's all stay cool on this. It's a super serious topic obviously. But don't call each other stupid. Hopefully, facts will tell the story.

J

 

[massraider]

The police incident report. (allegedly)

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/photo/2015/02/26/0ap3000000474214.pdf

So this Alex Penson guy might not exist?

He's not listed as another involved party, birth date is unknown.

Sounds like Dez drug this lady from her car to his then came back.

No, it doesn't sound like that.

 

[VarsityBlues123]

so the police dont have the video but others know of its existence and whats on it?

 

[ILUVBEER99]

unless there is a video released this is a non-issue, and i'm someone who thinks Dez is a complete nutcase. Based purely on the police report it doesn't make Dez look bad at all.

 

[12punch]

so the police dont have the video but others know of its existence and whats on it?

I don't really understand why the police would have any video

others knew of a ray rice video and what was on it, apparently

 

[12punch]

unless there is a video released this is a non-issue, and i'm someone who thinks Dez is a complete nutcase. Based purely on the police report it doesn't make Dez look bad at all.

I believe the police report was made after the incident was over

that's like saying ray rice didn't look bad until we found out he punched some chick

 

[ILUVBEER99]

unless there is a video released this is a non-issue, and i'm someone who thinks Dez is a complete nutcase. Based purely on the police report it doesn't make Dez look bad at all.

I believe the police report was made after the incident was over

that's like saying ray rice didn't look bad until we found out he punched some chick

completely agree. i'm just saying without the video there is nothing in the police report that will cause any issues for him. If video is released showing something different everything changes.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Whole thing kind of feels like it was hyped up by people (probably the old friends Dez cut out of his life years ago to get straight) who knew about this "incident" (which probably happened but left no proof) and wanted to cash in. Their bluff was called, blackmail failed.

Makes me trust Schefter less if the whole thing is false. He straight up said he knew there was a video and he knew what was on it, that he'd been working on the story for a long time. If it turns out there was never a video, just this old inconclusive police report, he's a jackass. I know all media "insiders" are partially bull#### artists but I've considered him on a slightly higher level of trustworthiness in the past.

I wanna know where the $225,000 bid info and stuff came from. The people trying to get paid by Dez?

 

[rdrouyn]

From the police report, sounds like he was rescuing the lady from his homies that had borrowed his car. The only thing he seems guilty of is having poor judgement in picking friends.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Whole thing kind of feels like it was hyped up by people (probably the old friends Dez cut out of his life years ago to get straight) who knew about this "incident" (which probably happened but left no proof) and wanted to cash in. Their bluff was called, blackmail failed.

Makes me trust Schefter less if the whole thing is false. He straight up said he knew there was a video and he knew what was on it, that he'd been working on the story for a long time. If it turns out there was never a video, just this old inconclusive police report, he's a jackass. I know all media "insiders" are partially bull#### artists but I've considered him on a slightly higher level of trustworthiness in the past.

I wanna know where the $225,000 bid info and stuff came from. The people trying to get paid by Dez?

Hi Connskin,

What I heard from Schefter was him being very reluctant to talk about it and being very clear to say he had not seen the video. And it's also important I think to know he didn't bring it up. Schefter was asked directly on the radio about the video.

Like it is with most things - especially important or potentially explosive things like this, it's good to get some context. The 2 minute audio of the what he said is on this page. http://thebiglead.com/2015/02/25/dez-bryant-video-adam-schefter-espn/

He also said that it was his best guess that Bryant winds up staying with Dallas for next year.

Do you have a quote or audio from Schefter saying he'd seen the video?

J

 

[dhockster]

Basically none of this thread is about FF. It's about Dez Bryant and his transgressions. If you want to reverse and go back to the original statement, you'll find that some morons don't think Dez should be punished for his actions because they occurred in the past.

You're also free to scroll right on by anything that isn't FF. Sorry if you're too stupid to tell the difference and must read everything in front of you.

So you think if it comes out that Dez Bryant did something wrong and he broke the law or broke the conduct policy of the NFL he should be punished. I can agree with that, even though a significant time has passed. But what about after he is punished? Does he have to continue paying for his crime? With Vick, it sounds like you basically think that even though he squared himself with society (did his jail time) and was re-instated by the NFL because he had done his jail time, that no one should sign him. He should continue to have to pay for his crime. Do you think any criminals deserve a second chance in society or are they all beyond redemption?

Serious question, because it totally goes against what I believe as a Christian.

 

[dickey moe]

5 gazillion times worse than Ray Rice

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Whole thing kind of feels like it was hyped up by people (probably the old friends Dez cut out of his life years ago to get straight) who knew about this "incident" (which probably happened but left no proof) and wanted to cash in. Their bluff was called, blackmail failed.

Makes me trust Schefter less if the whole thing is false. He straight up said he knew there was a video and he knew what was on it, that he'd been working on the story for a long time. If it turns out there was never a video, just this old inconclusive police report, he's a jackass. I know all media "insiders" are partially bull#### artists but I've considered him on a slightly higher level of trustworthiness in the past.

I wanna know where the $225,000 bid info and stuff came from. The people trying to get paid by Dez?

Hi Connskin,

What I heard from Schefter was him being very reluctant to talk about it and being very clear to say he had not seen the video. And it's also important I think to know he didn't bring it up. Schefter was asked directly on the radio about the video.

Like it is with most things - especially important or potentially explosive things like this, it's good to get some context. The 2 minute audio of the what he said is on this page. http://thebiglead.com/2015/02/25/dez-bryant-video-adam-schefter-espn/

He also said that it was his best guess that Bryant winds up staying with Dallas for next year.

Do you have a quote or audio from Schefter saying he'd seen the video?

J

No, but that's not quite what I said. I said he said he knew the video existed, and what was on it, not that he'd seen it himself. I'll give a listen to the audio you linked when I get home, like you said context is important. His reluctance to talk about it won't really mean much if the video never existed and he said it did, but I get what you're saying.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Whole thing kind of feels like it was hyped up by people (probably the old friends Dez cut out of his life years ago to get straight) who knew about this "incident" (which probably happened but left no proof) and wanted to cash in. Their bluff was called, blackmail failed.

Makes me trust Schefter less if the whole thing is false. He straight up said he knew there was a video and he knew what was on it, that he'd been working on the story for a long time. If it turns out there was never a video, just this old inconclusive police report, he's a jackass. I know all media "insiders" are partially bull#### artists but I've considered him on a slightly higher level of trustworthiness in the past.

I wanna know where the $225,000 bid info and stuff came from. The people trying to get paid by Dez?

Hi Connskin,

What I heard from Schefter was him being very reluctant to talk about it and being very clear to say he had not seen the video. And it's also important I think to know he didn't bring it up. Schefter was asked directly on the radio about the video.

Like it is with most things - especially important or potentially explosive things like this, it's good to get some context. The 2 minute audio of the what he said is on this page. http://thebiglead.com/2015/02/25/dez-bryant-video-adam-schefter-espn/

He also said that it was his best guess that Bryant winds up staying with Dallas for next year.

Do you have a quote or audio from Schefter saying he'd seen the video?

J

No, but that's not quite what I said. I said he said he knew the video existed, and what was on it, not that he'd seen it himself. I'll give a listen to the audio you linked when I get home, like you said context is important. His reluctance to talk about it won't really mean much if the video never existed and he said it did, but I get what you're saying.

Thanks Connskin,

Give it a listen as I found it to have a different vibe than much of what I'd heard before.

It's something of a unique spot for reporters these days where they go to more of a detective mode trying to uncover and run down stories. That's old school journalism but not something you see a lot of now. Especially not in sports.

It feels to me that in this day and age of TMZ and Deadspin and where those sites are actively saying they'll pay for the video, very little stays hidden. In other words, if it's out there, I'd be really surprised if it stays hidden.

I do know this, Adam Schefter is not in the business of spending time on things that don't matter. So when he says he's been working on this a lot, I tend to think there's something there that's enough to warrant his attention. But reporters are like cops, there are a lot of dead ends where a story is run down only to find it's not a real story. That could very well be the case here. I certainly hope so. We'll see.

J

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Given that there's a police record of an incident in a Wal-Mart parking lot, and Wal-Mart typically has plenty of security cameras around their stores it would be pretty surprising if there wasn't a video.

 

[VarsityBlues123]

Given that there's a police record of an incident in a Wal-Mart parking lot, and Wal-Mart typically has plenty of security cameras around their stores it would be pretty surprising if there wasn't a video.

is it possible we are just waiting for the franchise tag before the video comes out? i had my car hit in a Walmart parking lot once and they could go back months to get video if not years since its all recorded on hard drive and not recorded to vhs anymore and hasnt been for years according to my lawyer.

 

[-CE-]

Basically none of this thread is about FF. It's about Dez Bryant and his transgressions. If you want to reverse and go back to the original statement, you'll find that some morons don't think Dez should be punished for his actions because they occurred in the past.

You're also free to scroll right on by anything that isn't FF. Sorry if you're too stupid to tell the difference and must read everything in front of you.

So you think if it comes out that Dez Bryant did something wrong and he broke the law or broke the conduct policy of the NFL he should be punished. I can agree with that, even though a significant time has passed. But what about after he is punished? Does he have to continue paying for his crime? With Vick, it sounds like you basically think that even though he squared himself with society (did his jail time) and was re-instated by the NFL because he had done his jail time, that no one should sign him. He should continue to have to pay for his crime. Do you think any criminals deserve a second chance in society or are they all beyond redemption?

Serious question, because it totally goes against what I believe as a Christian.

Correct. I don't believe someone who fights dogs and kills dogs can be redeemed. A sociopath isn't ever "cured." He might learn to manage his tendencies, but deep down inside he doesn't care that some animal struggled with all of its might just to stay alive in its final moments while he choked it death or submerged it under water.

Like the one writer says, he'll always be DKQB to me.

 

[12punch]

this thread certainly took a turn

 

[Routilla]

Too bad the people who either know something tangible or are full of BS will not come clean either way and put this to bed one way or the other. Ho hum. Have a good weekend everybody.

 

[rdrouyn]

The only facts we have to go on are the police reports, which say that Desmond Bryant wasn't accused or suspected of anything.

From the facts in the police report, it is very likely that Dez wasn't even the one dragging the lady across the parking lot.

Again, his homies are probably thugs, but you can say that about many NFL players that grew up in poor neighborhoods. Seems like he has stayed clear of them in recent years.

The only reason why this has come out now is for two possible reasons.

1) The cowboys want to hurt his negotiating power and scare off other teams. (probably not the case, since they can always franchise him and forget about it)

2) His former friends are extorting him for a piece of his new contract.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Basically none of this thread is about FF. It's about Dez Bryant and his transgressions. If you want to reverse and go back to the original statement, you'll find that some morons don't think Dez should be punished for his actions because they occurred in the past.

You're also free to scroll right on by anything that isn't FF. Sorry if you're too stupid to tell the difference and must read everything in front of you.

So you think if it comes out that Dez Bryant did something wrong and he broke the law or broke the conduct policy of the NFL he should be punished. I can agree with that, even though a significant time has passed. But what about after he is punished? Does he have to continue paying for his crime? With Vick, it sounds like you basically think that even though he squared himself with society (did his jail time) and was re-instated by the NFL because he had done his jail time, that no one should sign him. He should continue to have to pay for his crime. Do you think any criminals deserve a second chance in society or are they all beyond redemption?

Serious question, because it totally goes against what I believe as a Christian.

Correct. I don't believe someone who fights dogs and kills dogs can be redeemed. A sociopath isn't ever "cured." He might learn to manage his tendencies, but deep down inside he doesn't care that some animal struggled with all of its might just to stay alive in its final moments while he choked it death or submerged it under water.

Like the one writer says, he'll always be DKQB to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LrFEbxWzXI

 

[Faust]

Four potential replacements in draft for Cowboys' Dez Bryant

 

[dhockster]

If you believe that Dez was being extorted, then you have to believe that there is concrete proof of whatever it was that happened. Dez knows what happened. But the only way he is paying anybody off is if they showed him the incriminating evidence against him.

 

[dhockster]

Basically none of this thread is about FF. It's about Dez Bryant and his transgressions. If you want to reverse and go back to the original statement, you'll find that some morons don't think Dez should be punished for his actions because they occurred in the past.

You're also free to scroll right on by anything that isn't FF. Sorry if you're too stupid to tell the difference and must read everything in front of you.

So you think if it comes out that Dez Bryant did something wrong and he broke the law or broke the conduct policy of the NFL he should be punished. I can agree with that, even though a significant time has passed. But what about after he is punished? Does he have to continue paying for his crime? With Vick, it sounds like you basically think that even though he squared himself with society (did his jail time) and was re-instated by the NFL because he had done his jail time, that no one should sign him. He should continue to have to pay for his crime. Do you think any criminals deserve a second chance in society or are they all beyond redemption?

Serious question, because it totally goes against what I believe as a Christian.

Correct. I don't believe someone who fights dogs and kills dogs can be redeemed. A sociopath isn't ever "cured." He might learn to manage his tendencies, but deep down inside he doesn't care that some animal struggled with all of its might just to stay alive in its final moments while he choked it death or submerged it under water.

Like the one writer says, he'll always be DKQB to me.

Fair enough. You are entitled to your viewpoint. If you haven't seen it already, maybe you show check out "Les Miserables". The police officer Javert basically does not believe in redemption. He ultimately can't deal with the fact that a man who he thinks is nothing more than a criminal saves his life.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

So, still no new news. Blackmail sure takes its sweet time.

I hear the blackmailer's note is on its way though...

 

[-CE-]

Basically none of this thread is about FF. It's about Dez Bryant and his transgressions. If you want to reverse and go back to the original statement, you'll find that some morons don't think Dez should be punished for his actions because they occurred in the past.

You're also free to scroll right on by anything that isn't FF. Sorry if you're too stupid to tell the difference and must read everything in front of you.

So you think if it comes out that Dez Bryant did something wrong and he broke the law or broke the conduct policy of the NFL he should be punished. I can agree with that, even though a significant time has passed. But what about after he is punished? Does he have to continue paying for his crime? With Vick, it sounds like you basically think that even though he squared himself with society (did his jail time) and was re-instated by the NFL because he had done his jail time, that no one should sign him. He should continue to have to pay for his crime. Do you think any criminals deserve a second chance in society or are they all beyond redemption?

Serious question, because it totally goes against what I believe as a Christian.

Correct. I don't believe someone who fights dogs and kills dogs can be redeemed. A sociopath isn't ever "cured." He might learn to manage his tendencies, but deep down inside he doesn't care that some animal struggled with all of its might just to stay alive in its final moments while he choked it death or submerged it under water.

Like the one writer says, he'll always be DKQB to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LrFEbxWzXI

CLARK!!!

 

[Casting Couch]

No one, and I mean NO ONE blackmails Alex Person.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

No one, and I mean NO ONE blackmails Alex Person.

A. Person. Couldn't possibly be a made up name. Nah, no way.

 

[12punch]

No one, and I mean NO ONE blackmails Alex Person.

A. Person. Couldn't possibly be a made up name. Nah, no way.

that'd be great if the name wasn't actually penson

 

[Bruce Hammond]

No one, and I mean NO ONE blackmails Alex Person.

A. Person. Couldn't possibly be a made up name. Nah, no way.

that'd be great if the name wasn't actually penson

Shucks, you're right. I double checked.

*points to Casting Couch* Your fault, you set me up! haha

 

[ILUVBEER99]

this has to be one of the craziest rumors in some time. until the police report came out all sources (even legit ones like Schefter) were acting like this was some crazy incident that would ruin his life. In the end the report didn't really make him look bad at all.

Not a fan of Dez and think he's a nut job, but do feel bad for him he was dragged through mud for what amounts to nothing.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Non story

 

[VarsityBlues123]

this has to be one of the craziest rumors in some time. until the police report came out all sources (even legit ones like Schefter) were acting like this was some crazy incident that would ruin his life. In the end the report didn't really make him look bad at all.

Not a fan of Dez and think he's a nut job, but do feel bad for him he was dragged through mud for what amounts to nothing.

So a witness says a person dragged a woman out of her car by her hair and all the people involved say nothing happened? But some believe the people who have something to lose over the one who had nothing to lose just said what they saw? There is video of this if it happened at a Walmart. Cops not doing their due diligence does not mean something didnt happen. I think its funny someone says Dez was dragged through the mud when he puts himself in these situations of issues and when someone witnessed this issue. Cops called to his house 6 times and never an arrest? I am way more than certain the cops are in Jones pocket.

 

[Bojang0301]

Non story

Starting to look that way, especially with PFT not serving updates and ESPN never even acknowledging it as a story. Still sucks that this was a rumor. Will be lingering in everyone's minds until Cowgirls franchise or someone signs him long term.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

LeSean McCoy - RB - Eagles

The Philadelphia Daily News' Paul Domowitch said it is 'not likely' the Eagles want to keep LeSean McCoy at his current $11.95 million cap charge.

McCoy has said he is not open to a pay cut, but a restructuring that kicked some guaranteed money down the road could work for both sides. The Eagles could also conceivably cut McCoy, but that seems unlikely at this point. McCoy averaged 4.23 YPC with just five TDs on 312 carries last season. He lost passing-down and short-yardage work to Darren Sproles and Chris Polk.

Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News Feb 28 - 10:45 AM

 

[12punch]

Rotoworld:

LeSean McCoy - RB - Eagles

The Philadelphia Daily News' Paul Domowitch said it is 'not likely' the Eagles want to keep LeSean McCoy at his current $11.95 million cap charge.

McCoy has said he is not open to a pay cut, but a restructuring that kicked some guaranteed money down the road could work for both sides. The Eagles could also conceivably cut McCoy, but that seems unlikely at this point. McCoy averaged 4.23 YPC with just five TDs on 312 carries last season. He lost passing-down and short-yardage work to Darren Sproles and Chris Polk.

Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News Feb 28 - 10:45 AM

ummmm...ok

rumors now swirling on twitter that dez ducked into the wal-mart bathroom for approximately 98 seconds