Official Dez Bryant (4 Viewers)

[menobrown]

Really hard to imagine a video that's 5x worse than Ray Rice. Did he beat up a paraplegic or something?

Not to me it's not.

Don't confuse this with me saying what Rice did was ok but he got provoked to some degree, lost his cool and took a single swing. A single split second heat of the moment bad decision on his part. That's obviously bad and I'd add that when he and his wife watch that video I somehow think he has to explain his actions afterwards to her more than the punch itself.

But some idea's of of something worse would be someone throwing multiple punches, someone continuing to beat on someone who was down, someone being caught on video more than once beating on someone. These things are all worse than a single split second swing because they all seem to indicate behavior more severe than someone losing their cool for a split second.

 

[General Tso]

Really hard to imagine a video that's 5x worse than Ray Rice. Did he beat up a paraplegic or something?

Not to me it's not.

Don't confuse this with me saying what Rice did was ok but he got provoked to some degree, lost his cool and took a single swing. A single split second heat of the moment bad decision on his part. That's obviously bad and I'd add that when he and his wife watch that video I somehow think he has to explain his actions afterwards to her more than the punch itself.

But some idea's of of something worse would be someone throwing multiple punches, someone continuing to beat on someone who was down, someone being caught on video more than once beating on someone. These things are all worse than a single split second swing because they all seem to indicate behavior more severe than someone losing their cool for a split second.

menobrown the tightrope walker!

 

[rdrouyn]

Crazy conspiracy theory alert:

Jerry Jones is planning on leaking a video of Dez Bryant hitting his momma if he doesn't sign with the Cowboys. If you think about it for a while, it starts making sense. Who else would have access to said video other than the Cowboys brass? Who would stand to gain the most by scaring off other teams from signing Dez? The pieces fit. Just sayin'.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

You guys remember the weird Desean/gang stuff that took on a life of it's own for no reason whatsoever in the dead of last offseason? This is like that. It's not real or the video would be out by now.

 

[Soulfly3]

You guys remember the weird Desean/gang stuff that took on a life of it's own for no reason whatsoever in the dead of last offseason? This is like that. It's not real or the video would be out by now.

Like how the Ray Rice video ssurfaced right away?

 

[ConnSKINS26]

You guys remember the weird Desean/gang stuff that took on a life of it's own for no reason whatsoever in the dead of last offseason? This is like that. It's not real or the video would be out by now.

Like how the Ray Rice video ssurfaced right away?

We already had proof that happened, and most of the details. Actually seeing it happen later set people off more, but the video of him dragging her came out pretty much right away and so did the fact that he knocked her out.

 

[menobrown]

It's not real or the video would be out by now.

I don't think it is either. And I say that because a week ago Dez seemed a little upset about the likelihood of getting franchise tagged vs signed long term. If this video was real I just think Dez would not be spouting off on social media last week but would have much bigger concerns to worry about.

 

[VarsityBlues123]

Doesnt matter what anyone thinks because until a video surfaces its all gossip. the Desean Jackson stuff was real but flashing gang signs is different then actual violence which I am only assuming would be on the alleged video based off the "5x" worse comments. it has to be a violent or highly illegal act if a video exists for it to cause this issue. lets say a video exists of him hitting his mom that would be a career changer for him and the cowboys as in maybe no more Dez in the NFL.

 

[Leroy's Aces]

It's not real or the video would be out by now.

I don't think it is either. And I say that because a week ago Dez seemed a little upset about the likelihood of getting franchise tagged vs signed long term. If this video was real I just think Dez would not be spouting off on social media last week but would have much bigger concerns to worry about.

Having said that, he has been quite silent on Twitter since Feb 20th, now four days without a comment. Reading the tea leaves, it could be an old video with his mom or potentially a new one with some girl. Assuming there is something out there, one could guess like the video owners tried the blackmail route with Dez and his agent, which makes a mom video more likely (old news, paid my price, screw off, don't care type of response) and have since been trying to market it to the trollish gossip sites like Deadspin and so on. If he had Arli$$ as an agent, this would have all been paid off by now.

 

[georg013]

If I was a Dez owner, I would say anything to convince myself this isn't true. Stuff like this only happens to guys like Gordon. The dumb players. Not Dez. I mean, he CHANGED. Right? He was supposed to be the safer option. Boy I hope this doesn't turn out to be true. He is going to change a lot of people's draft boards if it is. Who would have thought Gordon and Dez owners possibly taking a year off together. You can bet your ### they wont slap him on the wrist if it turns out this video is as bad as "they" say. Stay tuned! What an offseason. Just might have to bump him down my dynasty rankings. Character counts you know... Where are Deion and Michael? Surely they would be vouching for their "son" right? Or maybe it's a non-story. Who knows.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

the Desean Jackson stuff was real

No, it wasn't.

 

[VarsityBlues123]

the Desean Jackson stuff was real

No, it wasn't.

Yes it was.

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/03/eagles_desean_jackson_off-the-field_troubles.html


Rather, sources close to Jackson and within the Eagles' organization say, it originally was Jackson's off-field behavior that concerned the front office. A bad attitude, an inconsistent work ethic, missed meetings and a lack of chemistry with head coach Chip Kelly were the original reasons for his fall from grace, sources told NJ.com.

Then, suddenly, the Eagles had even more serious concerns when they were revealed by NJ.com -- Jackson's continued association with reputed Los Angeles street gang members who have been connected to two homicides since 2010.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Too much smoke for there not to be a fire at this point. Hopefully not as bad as everyone is speculating.

 

[jeaton6]

So if you can move him straight up (or even giving up a low rookie pick like a 2nd rounder as well) for Julio, AJG or DT do you do so ahead of further news or roll the dice this is BS?

 

[Bruce Hammond]

Perhaps there is video of him somewhere in Gillette Stadium before the Colts-Pats game, beating up 11 footballs and knocking the PSI out of them.

 

[mquinnjr]

Crazy conspiracy theory alert:

Jerry Jones is planning on leaking a video of Dez Bryant hitting his momma if he doesn't sign with the Cowboys. If you think about it for a while, it starts making sense. Who else would have access to said video other than the Cowboys brass? Who would stand to gain the most by scaring off other teams from signing Dez? The pieces fit. Just sayin'.

I think this is more of Jerry playing Dez throughout his rookie deal. Jerry knew he was trouble off the field, and nasty on it. Dangle the carrot, get as much out of Dez as you can under the cap friendly deal until he can become a free agent, and be done with him. I know he's awesome, but a long-term deal with guaranteed money to a guy with documented off the field violence issues in this day and age...might be driving the bus on this one to get the tape out there. "If I can't have him, no one will!"

 

[B-Deep]

If there is a video, as a cowbpys fan, i want it to come out sooner rather than later

 

[Soulfly3]

If this is true, I am so happy I traded him away towards end of last season's dynasty...

Dez and Gordon on my bench for 1+yrs, Id just hang up the boots.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

the Desean Jackson stuff was real

No, it wasn't.

Yes it was.

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/03/eagles_desean_jackson_off-the-field_troubles.html

Rather, sources close to Jackson and within the Eagles' organization say, it originally was Jackson's off-field behavior that concerned the front office. A bad attitude, an inconsistent work ethic, missed meetings and a lack of chemistry with head coach Chip Kelly were the original reasons for his fall from grace, sources told NJ.com.

Then, suddenly, the Eagles had even more serious concerns when they were revealed by NJ.com -- Jackson's continued association with reputed Los Angeles street gang members who have been connected to two homicides since 2010.

You have a strange definition of truth. Anonymous sources spilling to NJ.com, wow!

 

[jeaton6]

Well Maybe I overreacted but I just dealt him for AJ green straight up.

 

[Soulfly3]

Well Maybe I overreacted but I just dealt him for AJ green straight up.

you overreacted by getting the better WR?

 

[jeaton6]

Well Maybe I overreacted but I just dealt him for AJ green straight up.

you overreacted by getting the better WR?

Before this news I think most valued Dez higher than Green (startup ADP as a reference). Not signicantly but enough for Dez to likely command Green + a little something.

 

[Soulfly3]

Well Maybe I overreacted but I just dealt him for AJ green straight up.

you overreacted by getting the better WR?

Before this news I think most valued Dez higher than Green (startup ADP as a reference). Not signicantly but enough for Dez to likely command Green + a little something.

Id take Green 105% of the time, every time. That's just me.

Great move for you, and can't help but think the other owner has no clue about the news.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Crazy conspiracy theory alert:

Jerry Jones is planning on leaking a video of Dez Bryant hitting his momma if he doesn't sign with the Cowboys. If you think about it for a while, it starts making sense. Who else would have access to said video other than the Cowboys brass? Who would stand to gain the most by scaring off other teams from signing Dez? The pieces fit. Just sayin'.

I tend to think something along these lines is happening but what if their isn't a tape and the Cowboys are using the 'threat' of a tape as leverage in contract talks? I think that is very likely.

Florio says that EVERYONE in the business has heard these rumors of an 'alleged' tape being out there and he says matter-of-factly that the 'alleged' tape is the reason why contract talks between the Boys and Dez haven't progressed into a long-term contract.

Florio conducted this interview days ago before the 'rumor' of the tape blew up.

Go to the link to hear the short podcast where Florio is VERY CAREFUL in noting that he doesn't know if any video exists but that EVERYONE has heard rumors about a tape and what is on it but he wouldn't say what he has heard is on the tape for obvious reasons. But the fact that EVERYONE knows about this 'alleged' tape means the Boys hold leverage because what team would offer him a long-term contract on the open market knowing that at any time some devastating tape could pop-up?

LINK to Florio's interview where he acknowledges that rumors have been out there for months about the 'all edged' tape and everyone has been trying to get their hands on it.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/02/20/mike-florio-on-rumors-holding-up-dezs-contract-talks/

Mike Florio On Rumors Holding Up Dez’s Contract TalksFebruary 20, 2015 8:53 AM
Mike Florio from ProFootballTalk.com discussed the rumors regarding why Dez Bryant has not received a new contract from the Dallas Cowboys.

During his interaction with Shan & RJ, Florio brings up the possibility of a video involving Dez Bryant.

“I don’t know if there’s any video that exists,” says Florio. “I’m just saying there is some chatter out there.”

Dez's cryptic tweet seems to hint he's being blackmailed by some threat to expose something in his past that could be damaging but he is basically calling the bluff. I think he was possibly blackmailed in the past by this threat but he's not standing for it any longer. Hmnn. The tape exists or it doesn't but it seems the threat of a tape was used against Dez from his tweet.

February 20, 2015

... Just cut the bs .... its clear as day what's going on... I might need to do an exclusive interview about my life these past 5 years since the world is destined to know... I, use to let people take advantage of my life now that I no longer allow that to happen it seems to be a problem... I'm not ashamed of none of my past incidents because that's what made me who I am today.

 

[VarsityBlues123]

the Desean Jackson stuff was real

No, it wasn't.

Yes it was.

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/03/eagles_desean_jackson_off-the-field_troubles.html


Rather, sources close to Jackson and within the Eagles' organization say, it originally was Jackson's off-field behavior that concerned the front office. A bad attitude, an inconsistent work ethic, missed meetings and a lack of chemistry with head coach Chip Kelly were the original reasons for his fall from grace, sources told NJ.com.

Then, suddenly, the Eagles had even more serious concerns when they were revealed by NJ.com -- Jackson's continued association with reputed Los Angeles street gang members who have been connected to two homicides since 2010.

You have a strange definition of truth. Anonymous sources spilling to NJ.com, wow!

Aren't most people who uncover things that they dont want to be outed for called anonymous sources? If you think his gang ties did not have anything to do with him leaving the Eagles that is your choice. There is video evidence of him throwing gang signs up and as I mentioned in my original post before you deleted most of it so other can take it out of context I said:

Doesnt matter what anyone thinks because until a video surfaces its all gossip. the Desean Jackson stuff was real but flashing gang signs is different then actual violence which I am only assuming would be on the alleged video based off the "5x" worse comments. it has to be a violent or highly illegal act if a video exists for it to cause this issue. lets say a video exists of him hitting his mom that would be a career changer for him and the cowboys as in maybe no more Dez in the NFL.

So I blatantly said gang signs is different from actual violence and made it clear is said "gang signs."

Video of Jackson throwing up gang signs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4gxhaJ4giA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xXGskks098

 

[menobrown]

Well Maybe I overreacted but I just dealt him for AJ green straight up.

you overreacted by getting the better WR?

Before this news I think most valued Dez higher than Green (startup ADP as a reference). Not signicantly but enough for Dez to likely command Green + a little something.

Id take Green 105% of the time, every time. That's just me.

Great move for you, and can't help but think the other owner has no clue about the news.

Rumors aside, I prefer Dez and I'm feel pretty confident in high majority of leagues I'm in if both were available and no rumors existed Dez would be preferred by a decent majority. But it's close enough to for me to say you got 98 or 99 cents on the dollar with Green so if the Dez rumors have you concerned it's a great deal.

 

[Casting Couch]

Well Maybe I overreacted but I just dealt him for AJ green straight up.

you overreacted by getting the better WR?

Before this news I think most valued Dez higher than Green (startup ADP as a reference). Not signicantly but enough for Dez to likely command Green + a little something.

Id take Green 105% of the time, every time. That's just me.

Great move for you, and can't help but think the other owner has no clue about the news.

Rumors aside, I prefer Dez and I'm feel pretty confident in high majority of leagues I'm in if both were available and no rumors existed Dez would be preferred by a decent majority. But it's close enough to for me to say you got 98 or 99 cents on the dollar with Green so if the Dez rumors have you concerned it's a great deal.

I agree with this. I think Dez is the better FF WR, all things being equal. It's close though. If you were worried about the rumors, you got solid value and you can now sleep comfortably at night.

 

[VarsityBlues123]

So it begins. Ruh roh.

NFL Draft Source ‏@NFLDraftSource 34s34 seconds ago
#Cowboys and Dez might want to brace themselves. NOT GOOD! #NFL http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2015/02/music-producer-screenshots-of-dez-bryant-tape-have-been-sent-to-media/ …

 

[Soulfly3]

I agree with this. I think Dez is the better FF WR, all things being equal. It's close though. If you were worried about the rumors, you got solid value and you can now sleep comfortably at night.

2013 PPR, Green outscored Dez on a ppg basis, and last year Dez outscored Green. They're value is near equal, but all things considered, Id take Green.

 

[Soulfly3]

So it begins. Ruh roh.

NFL Draft Source ‏@NFLDraftSource 34s34 seconds ago
#Cowboys and Dez might want to brace themselves. NOT GOOD! #NFL http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2015/02/music-producer-screenshots-of-dez-bryant-tape-have-been-sent-to-media/ …

Even tho I think there's something cooking, the guy who posted that is pretty fake (Jaywan Inc). Known fraudster.

 

[menobrown]

Mike Florio On Rumors Holding Up Dez’s Contract TalksFebruary 20, 2015 8:53 AM
Mike Florio from ProFootballTalk.com discussed the rumors regarding why Dez Bryant has not received a new contract from the Dallas Cowboys.

During his interaction with Shan & RJ, Florio brings up the possibility of a video involving Dez Bryant.

“I don’t know if there’s any video that exists,” says Florio. “I’m just saying there is some chatter out there.”

Does Demaryious Thomas have a video out as well?

 

[VarsityBlues123]

So it begins. Ruh roh.

NFL Draft Source ‏@NFLDraftSource 34s34 seconds ago
#Cowboys and Dez might want to brace themselves. NOT GOOD! #NFL http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2015/02/music-producer-screenshots-of-dez-bryant-tape-have-been-sent-to-media/ …

Even tho I think there's something cooking, the guy who posted that is pretty fake (Jaywan Inc). Known fraudster.

Isnt he is a grammy nominated music producer? He does have almost 300k followers, big risk for him if he has the nuts to do this. Not saying its true just posting what I read.

 

[Quez]

This doesn't sound good. If there is any hint of truth to this, then I would expect the Cowboys to act swiftly. Look at the flack the Ravens got for dragging their feet.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Sure feels like something is about to come out on this one. Dez "not being ashamed of his past incidents" sounds a lot like Adrian Peterson justifying his actions.

Don't have a dog in this fight. Just not trending well at the moment.

 

[MattFancy]

ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk

If you want to hear what I know (and can say) about Dez Bryant situation, tune now to PFT Live on @NBCSportsRadio. Click show box at PFT.

What does he mean by "what he can say"? Does he know more than he's letting on? If that's the case, that's pretty ####ty. Just come out with the story if there is one and stop trying to hype it up.

 

[Soulfly3]

PFT radio (Florio) says he HEARD it was from 2011 (if it is real)

 

[MattFancy]

PFT radio (Florio) says he HEARD it was from 2011 (if it is real)

So an incident from 4 years ago is just coming out now? Interesting...

 

[Soulfly3]

PFT radio (Florio) says he HEARD it was from 2011 (if it is real)

So an incident from 4 years ago is just coming out now? Interesting...

Wasnt this during his beat his mom phase?

 

[MattFancy]

PFT radio (Florio) says he HEARD it was from 2011 (if it is real)

So an incident from 4 years ago is just coming out now? Interesting...

Wasnt this during his beat his mom phase?

Could be right. I know that was a few years back.

 

[menobrown]

PFT radio (Florio) says he HEARD it was from 2011 (if it is real)

So an incident from 4 years ago is just coming out now? Interesting...

Wasnt this during his beat his mom phase?

Could be right. I know that was a few years back.

2012 was year he slapped his mama.

 

[Quez]

It wasn't as big of a deal to batter women in 2011, so he may be in the clear. Jk

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

So I'm curious as to the role of the authorities on this.

Rumors say there is video evidence where Dez Bryant is likely committing a crime. (battery or whatever).

Rumors also say that he may have been, or is likely being blackmailed over the release of this video. Yet another crime.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

PFT radio (Florio) says he HEARD it was from 2011 (if it is real)

So an incident from 4 years ago is just coming out now? Interesting...

Timing.

A video tape from 2011 threatened to be released in 2015 right when WR Dezmond Bryant is in the midst of hitting free agency or signing a long-term contract extension.

Hmnn, yeah interesting timing I'd say because the threat of an incriminating tape out there certainly doesn't work in the favor of the person it incriminates.

Timing.

 

[MattFancy]

So I'm curious as to the role of the authorities on this.

Rumors say there is video evidence where Dez Bryant is likely committing a crime. (battery or whatever).

Rumors also say that he may have been, or is likely being blackmailed over the release of this video. Yet another crime.

Agreed. I'm so confused about this whole thing.

If it's "5 times worse than the Ray Rice video" how in the world could this have not been reported 4 years ago when it happened (supposedly)? If it's from a Walmart video, you would have thought someone in their security dept would have seen it prior and said something right?

Now, it totally sounds like blackmailing. The people in possesion either want money from Dez or from a media outlet.

Getcha popcorn ready!

 

[Soulfly3]

Now, it totally sounds like blackmailing. The people in possesion either want money from Dez or from a media outlet.

Getcha popcorn ready!

Media + NFL = monster cash.

Someone is gonna buy it, if it exists. 110%. And it's gonna be plastered everywhere.

 

[Quez]

Jerry Jones likely has some defense contractors on the payroll. The blackmailer better have planned this very well.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

with screenshots out it's pretty much a guarantee something happening. even if it gets squashed somehow the NFL is going to have to react after the Ray Rice incident.

 

[Soulfly3]

I'll believe the screenshot stuff when it actually gets released.

As most said, too much smoke not to be fire.... The Cowboys would be doing a PR firestorm to defend Dez and THE COWBOYS if this wasn't true... Story is gaining too much steam for them to have not reacted beyond a simple "it's not true"

 

[JohnnyU]

I revoked my offer this morning where I was about to offer up the 1.01 and a 2016 1st and Rueben Randle for Dez. I want to see how this plays out. Funny thing is, in another league the owner of Dez and the 2.02 was trying to get a lot for him in an offer to me. I politely said no thanks for now. The last thing I want to happen is give a good amount for him and then all hell breaks loose. It's simply not worth it. Now if I can get him at a discount.....

 

[Soulfly3]

I revoked an offer this morning where I was about to offer up the 1.01 and a 2016 1st and Rueben Randle for Dez. I want to see how this plays out.

if the guy had seen the offer, and knows the rumors, he wouldnt have been able to smash the accept button fast enough, methinks