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**** Official Dolphins 2013 Thread **** (1 Viewer)

Sounds like the Fins are getting desperate and will overpay for Albert....
That is how fragile this situation is. If Ireland lets Long walk and then overpays for Albert, local media down here is going to have a feast. They have all along but this might put a big halt on all these season tickets they have been selling. So disappointing when I have been banging the drum on this since we drafted Martin last season.

What's scary is Miami is there everyday with Martin, they have had a year to size him up...if they are this desperate for Albert then why let Long walk in the 1st place. I just don't understand.

 
Sounds like the Fins are getting desperate and will overpay for Albert....
That is how fragile this situation is. If Ireland lets Long walk and then overpays for Albert, local media down here is going to have a feast. They have all along but this might put a big halt on all these season tickets they have been selling. So disappointing when I have been banging the drum on this since we drafted Martin last season.

What's scary is Miami is there everyday with Martin, they have had a year to size him up...if they are this desperate for Albert then why let Long walk in the 1st place. I just don't understand.
I don't get a good vibe from Albert, I sense someone who will lack the motivation he needs to be worth what he's asking once he's hit his pay day. I don't like this speculation at all, hopefully this is some sort of smokescreen. I'd honestly rather roll the dice with Martin/Winston and whomever we can pick up in the draft.

 
So ... Bess is linked to CLE, ARI, STL, SF, MIN and all those teams are ones I've heard may be interested in moving up/down. 1st round move in the works? or just the mid-round pick that's been thrown out there?

 
Sounds like the Fins are getting desperate and will overpay for Albert....
That is how fragile this situation is. If Ireland lets Long walk and then overpays for Albert, local media down here is going to have a feast. They have all along but this might put a big halt on all these season tickets they have been selling. So disappointing when I have been banging the drum on this since we drafted Martin last season. What's scary is Miami is there everyday with Martin, they have had a year to size him up...if they are this desperate for Albert then why let Long walk in the 1st place. I just don't understand.
From what I've read, they don't seem very pleased with the idea of moving Martin over.It sounds like they did everything they could to bring Long back around the same contract he signed. I thought that was too much for him and certainly too much for Albert.I hate this move...
 
Rooster said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Slapdash said:
Sounds like the Fins are getting desperate and will overpay for Albert....
That is how fragile this situation is. If Ireland lets Long walk and then overpays for Albert, local media down here is going to have a feast. They have all along but this might put a big halt on all these season tickets they have been selling. So disappointing when I have been banging the drum on this since we drafted Martin last season.

What's scary is Miami is there everyday with Martin, they have had a year to size him up...if they are this desperate for Albert then why let Long walk in the 1st place. I just don't understand.
I don't get a good vibe from Albert, I sense someone who will lack the motivation he needs to be worth what he's asking once he's hit his pay day. I don't like this speculation at all, hopefully this is some sort of smokescreen. I'd honestly rather roll the dice with Martin/Winston and whomever we can pick up in the draft.
2nd the motion although we would not be strong at Tackle.

 
Rooster said:
So ... Bess is linked to CLE, ARI, STL, SF, MIN and all those teams are ones I've heard may be interested in moving up/down. 1st round move in the works? or just the mid-round pick that's been thrown out there?
If Bess is on his way out with a mid round pick...I pray they are not taking Austin with the intent of putting him in the slot...well wait a minute let''s think about this...Austin is a terrible route runner IMHO, please don't do this.

 
I don't much like the idea of dealing Bess either....

Really hope all of this is a smokescreen and the team is going to trade down and stock up in the draft.

 
According to Steve Wyche on twitter, Chiefs and Dolphins will resume talks about Albert this morning. I'm beginning to feel like Armando is right when he says that the Chiefs want a trade and the Dolphins want a trade, so it's probably going to happen.

 
Best case scenario:

Dolphins keep delaying on the Albert deal, and then after the Chiefs have already drafted his replacement they are able to make a deal tomorrow morning to get him for a 3rd round pick once the Chiefs realize they are stuck.

Draft Eifert then package a 2nd and a maybe a 3rd or 4th they get for Bess and move back into the bottom of the 1st and get a CB that falls, seems like people are all over the place on who are CB's #2, #3, and #4 (Rhodes, Hatden, Trufant) and one of them will fall down into the 27 to 29 range. Use our remaining 2nd tomorrow on the best player available at CB, S, OL. Use a third on Ryan Swope to replace Bess.

Worse case scenario:

Make the Albert deal before the draft and give up a #2, trade Bess, the #12 and a third round pick to move up a few slots to the Browns spot because they hear that the Bills and Jets both want Austin and select Austin to replace Bess and pass on a DB like Milliner.

I hate to say it but I see them doing the worse case or something close to more then the best case.

 
Scenario #1

I am starting to think Miami will become a good dance partner to trade down or out of the 1st round. This draft has a good sweet spot in the 2nd-4th round, not much difference. i can see Miami actually turning these 5 picks into maybe 6-7+ picks wth a few of them coming next year in a draft that should have more talent in it. I can see Miami trading out of the 1st and picking up perhaps 1-2 more picks in the 2nd round which seems to have a lot of value at the moment. The Phins could use as many as 2-3 DBs to come on to this roster and compete for spots. Miami needs a Tackle at some point, perhaps a few weapons to give our young QB, lot of things Miami can do tonight and trading down is a good option IMO.

Scenario #2

Miami keeps their pick and takes any number of guys. They could go Eifert if he is there. I also could see them grabbing Kenny Vaccaro who I think would pair nicely with Rashad Jones. And it seems like Miami could be int he Tavon Austin sweepstakes...to me that is like Teddy Ginn from years back.

Scenario #3

They go OT/OG with a number of picks. I would not be thrilled with this as I think they need to invest in Tannehill not just with Wallace but continue to add more firepower in an offensive minded league. Fluker or either Guard would be disappointing after it seems you are focusing more on the passing game.

Scenario #4

They trade up. Could they trade up to grab one of the top Tackles? Sure but at a big price. Do they need to move up to grab a TE or WR?...possible. I sort of hope they don't trade up which is why I listed these in order of preference, If you have some other ideas then have at it.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Scenario #1I am starting to think Miami will become a good dance partner to trade down or out of the 1st round. This draft has a good sweet spot in the 2nd-4th round, not much difference. i can see Miami actually turning these 5 picks into maybe 6-7+ picks wth a few of them coming next year in a draft that should have more talent in it. I can see Miami trading out of the 1st and picking up perhaps 1-2 more picks in the 2nd round which seems to have a lot of value at the moment. The Phins could use as many as 2-3 DBs to come on to this roster and compete for spots. Miami needs a Tackle at some point, perhaps a few weapons to give our young QB, lot of things Miami can do tonight and trading down is a good option IMO. Scenario #2Miami keeps their pick and takes any number of guys. They could go Eifert if he is there. I also could see them grabbing Kenny Vaccaro who I think would pair nicely with Rashad Jones. And it seems like Miami could be int he Tavon Austin sweepstakes...to me that is like Teddy Ginn from years back. Scenario #3They go OT/OG with a number of picks. I would not be thrilled with this as I think they need to invest in Tannehill not just with Wallace but continue to add more firepower in an offensive minded league. Fluker or either Guard would be disappointing after it seems you are focusing more on the passing game. Scenario #4They trade up. Could they trade up to grab one of the top Tackles? Sure but at a big price. Do they need to move up to grab a TE or WR?...possible. I sort of hope they don't trade up which is why I listed these in order of preference, If you have some other ideas then have at it.
5. trade up and pick f-ing dion Jordan?!?!
 
I'm not shocked they traded up, just didn't see DE/OLB as a pressing need. I'm all for getting Wake some help but I thought Vernon showed a lot last year and made some big plays on special teams. I would have liked Miami to keep their picks and fill out some much needed depth. They moved up but only the #42 to go from #12 to #3 seems like a pretty good deal except this draft was not top heavy. They had a chance to take a Left Tackle but passed. The Front 7 now has...LDE-Odrick, LDT-Starks, RDT-Soliai, RDE-Wake with Vernon and the rookie Jordan rotating at DE. The LBs consist of Wheeler, Ellerbe and Koa Misi...I think Odrick and Misi look like busts, both were under Ireland's watch. Front 7 in the draft...we were so good against the run last year, I guess we can improve now at pass rush. I'm still kind of befuddled. A lot of people like Dion Jordan...he needs to be Von Miller and I don't think he is that good to be honest.

 
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Ministry of Pain said:
Scenario #1I am starting to think Miami will become a good dance partner to trade down or out of the 1st round. This draft has a good sweet spot in the 2nd-4th round, not much difference. i can see Miami actually turning these 5 picks into maybe 6-7+ picks wth a few of them coming next year in a draft that should have more talent in it. I can see Miami trading out of the 1st and picking up perhaps 1-2 more picks in the 2nd round which seems to have a lot of value at the moment. The Phins could use as many as 2-3 DBs to come on to this roster and compete for spots. Miami needs a Tackle at some point, perhaps a few weapons to give our young QB, lot of things Miami can do tonight and trading down is a good option IMO. Scenario #2Miami keeps their pick and takes any number of guys. They could go Eifert if he is there. I also could see them grabbing Kenny Vaccaro who I think would pair nicely with Rashad Jones. And it seems like Miami could be int he Tavon Austin sweepstakes...to me that is like Teddy Ginn from years back. Scenario #3They go OT/OG with a number of picks. I would not be thrilled with this as I think they need to invest in Tannehill not just with Wallace but continue to add more firepower in an offensive minded league. Fluker or either Guard would be disappointing after it seems you are focusing more on the passing game. Scenario #4They trade up. Could they trade up to grab one of the top Tackles? Sure but at a big price. Do they need to move up to grab a TE or WR?...possible. I sort of hope they don't trade up which is why I listed these in order of preference, If you have some other ideas then have at it.
5. trade up and pick f-ing dion Jordan?!?!
They did the worst case scenario IMHO, this was not a draft to move up.

 
you nailed the description when you said Vernon and Jordan rotating at de. you don't trade up and give up a second to grab a part time player. 3rd overall is an impact pick. someone who starts immediately. Jordan didn't even play full time on a happy defense.

 
Ireland outsmarted them on this one.

Only used pick 42 to move up from 12 to 3. Landed one of the premier players in draft. Jordan is an explosive guy who just recently moved to defense. I view him as a more athletic Bruce Irvin. Yes, Jordan has only been a part-timer so far, but that doesn't mean he can't accept a higher workload.

The pick also is consistent with what Miami has been doing all offseason - working to improve our team speed and Ireland is doing that everywhere.

Also, let's look what was on the board at 12. Not much.

The only plays in this draft were to move up or down and Ireland got that done. Love the move for Miami.

They haven't addressed left tackle yet, but there are plenty of options still on the board, Albert is obviously still in play and I have not given up on Martin yet. The team's number one priority for him this offseason is to get much stronger. I do believe there is talent there.

 
Sure didn't see that move coming.

Front 7 will be stout.

I want no part of Albert - don't want to lose the pick or give this guy 9 million a year. With the Chiefs taking a LT yesterday does the price of Albert come down? You would think it does.

They need to address the secondary.

 
Jordan runs a 4.6. Thats WR speed. I've seen comparisons to Jason Taylkor, Aldon Smith, and Julian Peterson - thats some top shelf talent.

Seems like a guy that can line up at DE or at LB depending upon situation, and either get after the passer, or possibly even lock down some of the receiving threats at TE. He dropped into coverage regularly at Oregon. Having to face Gronk/Hernandez twice a year, that could be a nice luxury. Not to mention having to face their QB twice also - gotta get to him (and all other QBs) to cover up would could be a weakness at the corners.

I like this. That Denesive front 7 should be outright nasty.

Not at all comfortable with trading 54 for Albert, but I could get behind giving up one of our 3rd rounders for him. KC has to be sweating it a bit right now. Hopefully, Ireland takes advantage.

 
Jordan runs a 4.6. Thats WR speed. I've seen comparisons to Jason Taylkor, Aldon Smith, and Julian Peterson - thats some top shelf talent.

Seems like a guy that can line up at DE or at LB depending upon situation, and either get after the passer, or possibly even lock down some of the receiving threats at TE. He dropped into coverage regularly at Oregon. Having to face Gronk/Hernandez twice a year, that could be a nice luxury. Not to mention having to face their QB twice also - gotta get to him (and all other QBs) to cover up would could be a weakness at the corners.

I like this. That Denesive front 7 should be outright nasty.

Not at all comfortable with trading 54 for Albert, but I could get behind giving up one of our 3rd rounders for him. KC has to be sweating it a bit right now. Hopefully, Ireland takes advantage.
Why is KC sweating? Eric Fisher is a more natural RT. If anything, their leverage just increased because Miami didn't take an OT.

 
Jordan runs a 4.6. Thats WR speed. I've seen comparisons to Jason Taylkor, Aldon Smith, and Julian Peterson - thats some top shelf talent.

Seems like a guy that can line up at DE or at LB depending upon situation, and either get after the passer, or possibly even lock down some of the receiving threats at TE. He dropped into coverage regularly at Oregon. Having to face Gronk/Hernandez twice a year, that could be a nice luxury. Not to mention having to face their QB twice also - gotta get to him (and all other QBs) to cover up would could be a weakness at the corners.

I like this. That Denesive front 7 should be outright nasty.

Not at all comfortable with trading 54 for Albert, but I could get behind giving up one of our 3rd rounders for him. KC has to be sweating it a bit right now. Hopefully, Ireland takes advantage.
Why is KC sweating? Eric Fisher is a more natural RT. If anything, their leverage just increased because Miami didn't take an OT.
Miami needs a LT a whole lot more than KC needs to get rid of one.

 
Like most of you, I wasn't shocked that Miami traded up. It seemed like going up or down would help the team get the best value at need positions. I also don't think that they gave up too much to move up to #3 overall...very reasonable price, IMO.

When they didn't take an OT, I was just as shocked as everyone else. Now that I've had a night to sleep on it, I'm liking the pick more and more for two primary reasons:

1) It's been proven over the years that the way to beat the Patriots is to get pressure on Brady. Make him move. Make him uncomfortable back there. This pick helps us to do that better.

2) IF you have a strong, consistent pass rush (think Giants super bowl years), then you don't need a Champ Bailey back there in coverage. You only need serviceable DB's. This takes some pressure off the need for us to HAVE to draft a top DB.

If the above holds, then the only real "need" is O-Line, and with the picks we have I'd like to think we can find some decent quality in the draft. Like most of you here, I don't like the idea of trading with the Chiefs or moving Bess.

 
Jordan runs a 4.6. Thats WR speed. I've seen comparisons to Jason Taylkor, Aldon Smith, and Julian Peterson - thats some top shelf talent. Seems like a guy that can line up at DE or at LB depending upon situation, and either get after the passer, or possibly even lock down some of the receiving threats at TE. He dropped into coverage regularly at Oregon. Having to face Gronk/Hernandez twice a year, that could be a nice luxury. Not to mention having to face their QB twice also - gotta get to him (and all other QBs) to cover up would could be a weakness at the corners. I like this. That Denesive front 7 should be outright nasty. Not at all comfortable with trading 54 for Albert, but I could get behind giving up one of our 3rd rounders for him. KC has to be sweating it a bit right now. Hopefully, Ireland takes advantage.
Why is KC sweating? Eric Fisher is a more natural RT. If anything, their leverage just increased because Miami didn't take an OT.
I'd be sweating if I spent the overall #1 on a RT
 
audiophile said:
2) IF you have a strong, consistent pass rush (think Giants super bowl years), then you don't need a Champ Bailey back there in coverage. You only need serviceable DB's. This takes some pressure off the need for us to HAVE to draft a top DB.
File this under "good in theory, not necessarily true in practice". A handful of teams have used a disproportionate number of picks on the D-line/DE's in the last few years, and few if any have built a good defense out of it. Even the Giants, who are pretty much a best case scenario (they've had like 4 different studs at DE in the last 6 years) really have not been a top defense as a whole. They've just had a few big games at the right time (the Super Bowl) to bend people's perception. For as much trouble as the pass rush caused in the 2007 and 2011 Super Bowls, it brought them the 17th and 27th ranked defenses those years and they were lucky to even squeak into the playoffs on the backs of their offense. Indy is another good example of a best-case scenario. Freeney/Mathis were as good a pair as you'll find on the ends, yet defense was always that team's weakness. The reality of the situation is that there's a long ways to go to see if Dion Jordan even becomes a good DE. And even if he does, it's not going to suddenly make problems in the secondary disappear. Even in this passing era, none of the great defenses of recent history have had two great pass rushing DEs and none of the teams with two great pass rushing DEs have been more than mediocre defenses. It's merely a piece of the pie, and a much smaller one than people would have you believe.
 
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Still not too sure what to think of this one. Like MOP, moving down seemed like the play. I'm glad they didn't take Lane Johnson, I don't think he is worth such a high pick. It just seems like a luxury pick for a team that has holes elsewhere. The coaching staff must be really high on this kid or our current secondary to make this move.

All that aside, Dion is a very exciting prospect. He is a physical specimen who can line up in multiple places. Games are won in the trenches and this front 7 is loaded.

Now we need to find the solution at LT. Watson or Armstead would be great.

 
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ChuckLiddell said:
Jordan runs a 4.6. Thats WR speed. I've seen comparisons to Jason Taylkor, Aldon Smith, and Julian Peterson - thats some top shelf talent.

Seems like a guy that can line up at DE or at LB depending upon situation, and either get after the passer, or possibly even lock down some of the receiving threats at TE. He dropped into coverage regularly at Oregon. Having to face Gronk/Hernandez twice a year, that could be a nice luxury. Not to mention having to face their QB twice also - gotta get to him (and all other QBs) to cover up would could be a weakness at the corners.

I like this. That Denesive front 7 should be outright nasty.

Not at all comfortable with trading 54 for Albert, but I could get behind giving up one of our 3rd rounders for him. KC has to be sweating it a bit right now. Hopefully, Ireland takes advantage.
Why is KC sweating? Eric Fisher is a more natural RT. If anything, their leverage just increased because Miami didn't take an OT.
I hear you on the leverage argument, but I am pretty confident that KC did not just spend the top overall pick on someone they intend to use anywhere other than LT - which is Albert's position, and one that he is being paid $9M this year to play, before becoming a free agent next year.

Way I see it...KC either pays him $9M for one year's worth of service and a potential headache/distraction, only to see him likely walk for nothing next season. Or they take what they can get for him, and move on to the LT of their next decade with no distractions. If nobody is offering anything better than Miami's 3rd round pick, I would say that there is then leverage on both sides.

Miami can always sign Winston, and bump Martin over to LT. Not ideal, but certainly an option.

 
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As a lifelong Dolphins fan , I don't like the pick. I am fine with trading up, but this was not the guy to do it for IMO. There are much more glaring holes that needed to be filled. I do hpe he pans out.

 
This Bess trade sounds terrible. Switched fourths and picked up a fifth for a seventh.

Like the Jamar Taylor pick there a lot.

Don't know much about Dallas Thomas. Seems a couple of players went right before that would have been better (Allen/Armstead).

Traded out of the third for two early fourths. A lot of picks to start off tomorrow.

 
As a lifelong Dolphins/Gators fan, today has been very fun.
yes sir. i think the dolphins could have picked better at 3 and still gotten Jenkins but that front seven is going to be tough. gilleslie will provide good depth. plus, always fun to watch them with more gators. i still remember my jarvis Williams/Louis Oliver poster as a kid.
 
Rotoworld's Fins Draft Analysis:

Miami Dolphins

3. Dion Jordan, defensive end, Oregon.
54. Jamar Taylor, cornerback, Boise State.
77. Dallas Thomas, guard/tackle, Tennessee.
93. Will Davis, cornerback, Utah State.
104. Jelani Jenkins, inside linebacker, Florida.
106. Dion Sims, tight end, Michigan State.
164. Mike Gillislee, running back, Florida.
166. Caleb Sturgis, kicker, Florida.
250. Don Jones, safety, Arkansas State.

Overview: GM Jeff Ireland was pick-rich after unloading Brandon Marshall and Vontae Davis -- two premier NFL starters -- for pennies on the dollar. Those bad trades are factored into Miami's grade. After more trades, the Fins wound up turning the two Marshall third-rounders into Michael Egnew, B.J. Cunningham, blocking tight end Sims, and part of the deal that brought underwhelming corner prospect Davis. For Vontae, they got Taylor straight up. Jordan has a chance to be the best player in this draft class. I like Taylor. Gillislee could be a year-one upgrade onDaniel Thomas if he demonstrates consistency in pass protection. Jones has starter measurables and offered value at the tail end of day three. But Ireland can't be let off the hook for his past talent-shaving trades just because he snuck them into last offseason. The Fins are still paying the piper, and after nauseatingly producing four consecutive losing seasons Ireland has cost himself all possible benefit of the doubt.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/43164/174/draft-2013-afc-draft-grades?pg=2

 
Rotoworld's Fins Draft Analysis:

Miami Dolphins

3. Dion Jordan, defensive end, Oregon.

54. Jamar Taylor, cornerback, Boise State.

77. Dallas Thomas, guard/tackle, Tennessee.

93. Will Davis, cornerback, Utah State.

104. Jelani Jenkins, inside linebacker, Florida.

106. Dion Sims, tight end, Michigan State.

164. Mike Gillislee, running back, Florida.

166. Caleb Sturgis, kicker, Florida.

250. Don Jones, safety, Arkansas State.

Overview: GM Jeff Ireland was pick-rich after unloading Brandon Marshall and Vontae Davis -- two premier NFL starters -- for pennies on the dollar. Those bad trades are factored into Miami's grade. After more trades, the Fins wound up turning the two Marshall third-rounders into Michael Egnew, B.J. Cunningham, blocking tight end Sims, and part of the deal that brought underwhelming corner prospect Davis. For Vontae, they got Taylor straight up. Jordan has a chance to be the best player in this draft class. I like Taylor. Gillislee could be a year-one upgrade onDaniel Thomas if he demonstrates consistency in pass protection. Jones has starter measurables and offered value at the tail end of day three. But Ireland can't be let off the hook for his past talent-shaving trades just because he snuck them into last offseason. The Fins are still paying the piper, and after nauseatingly producing four consecutive losing seasons Ireland has cost himself all possible benefit of the doubt.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/43164/174/draft-2013-afc-draft-grades?pg=2
Who could say such things? The nerve of some people, this man is a professional. He has been the GM for the better part of 5 seasons and has weathered Miami thru from a 1-15 season to this almost on the cusp of being fairly decent team together and you can be sure he knows that Marshall was a time bomb waiting to explode or slash in his case. The man has been making moves left and right showcasing his in depth knowledge of spotting talent. Turned a FA signing into a 4th round pick, never mind the team was starved at WR and spent a fortune to get a deep fly WR but there can't be room on a roster for a receiver who actually catches the football. So let's not sell this guy down the river(asap) because he has shown tenacity in keeping that GM job so let's not criticize but rather praise this front office for the fine job of out thinking everyone. It's Super Bowl in 2013 baby.

 
PFT had a solid take:

Draft review: Miami DolphinsWhat they needed: Offensive line, defensive end, cornerback, safety
Who they got:
Round 1: Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon
Round 2: Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State
Round 3: Dallas Thomas, G, Tennessee; Will Davis, CB, Utah State
Round 4: Jelani Jenkins, LB, Florida; Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State
Round 5: Mike Gillislee, RB, Florida, Caleb Sturgis, K, Florida
Round 7: Don Jones, S, Arkansas State

Where they hit: The Dolphins came into the draft with a ton of picks and they leveraged them well to move up and get Jordan. Giving up one of their two second-round picks for a player who is potentially special coming off the edge was a bold move and it is one that can really pay off for the Dolphins in the short, medium and long term. There’s some concern about how he’ll hold up against the run, but it’s gotta be fun for the Dolphins to think about him attacking opposite from Cameron Wake.

Taylor was a very solid pick at No. 54 from both a need and value standpoint. The Dolphins need a starter and he should be at the top of the list of players in the mix for that role. Davis is ticketed for sub packages, another place where the Dolphins need a boost after last season’s misadventures in the secondary.

Where they missed: Thomas played left tackle in 2011, but he moved to left guard last season and seems a longshot to kick back outside at the NFL level. The Dolphins could stand to get better at guard than they’ve been with John Jerry and Richie Incognito, but it would have been nice to see them get better competition for Jonathan Martin at left tackle. The same goes for safety, where the need isn’t acute but a possible chance to add quality competition to the mix went by the wayside to add depth at tight end and running back.

Impact rookies: Jordan and Taylor will be expected to start and play well at two pivotal spots in the Dolphins defense. Jordan will likely get spotted a bit more as the team tries to bring him along against the run, but both guys will have plenty to do with how well the Dolphins stop the pass. Thomas should challenge for a starting job somewhere on the line, Jenkins excels in coverage so should see a fair amount of time in sub packages and Sturgis will try to push Dan Carpenter out of the kicking job.

Long-term prospects: This was something of an odd draft for the Dolphins since there’s a sense that General Manager Jeff Ireland’s job could hang on this year’s results. Jordan isn’t a developmental pick by any means, but he’s not a perfect fit for the Miami defense and may not be developed enough to immediately become the force Ireland clearly thinks he can be. That’s not a bad thing at all, but there’s some disconnect from the rest of the draft where the Dolphins went with safer picks that filled some obvious needs with players that should help right away. There’s a lot of reason to think this draft will help the Dolphins for years to come. Ireland just has to hope it starts helping right away.
The biggest disapointment in the draft was seeing Terron Armstead and Keenan Allen go right before Miami's 3rd round pick. It just felt like Ireland was teeing up for those two guys who got snatched away. I think Thomas will be a good player and should start at G eventually, but it would have been nicer to go one of those other two.

I really like what the Dion Jordan move says about the mindset of this team. I hope he pans out.

Very excited for the defense this year and going forward.

 
Dolphins in serious talks with Eric Winston now again...
Prolly the best play at this point. He would only come at 3-4 million a year tops.
Assume Martin rolls to left tackle, Dallas will play LG, Incognito either rolls to RG or is cut. Assume all that...if we don't have great pass protection and Tannehill has to to get rid of it quick which would increase the need for good hands on short quick routes like the guy we just traded for a 4th rounder and also let walk out the door at RB. Just another observation but this also does not bode well for Wallace who needs a few seconds to get down the field deep. So now we are back to Hartline who falls down with 1st contact pretty much all the time.

I'm starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist.

 
Dolphins in serious talks with Eric Winston now again...
Prolly the best play at this point. He would only come at 3-4 million a year tops.
Assume Martin rolls to left tackle, Dallas will play LG, Incognito either rolls to RG or is cut. Assume all that...if we don't have great pass protection and Tannehill has to to get rid of it quick which would increase the need for good hands on short quick routes like the guy we just traded for a 4th rounder and also let walk out the door at RB. Just another observation but this also does not bode well for Wallace who needs a few seconds to get down the field deep. So now we are back to Hartline who falls down with 1st contact pretty much all the time.

I'm starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist.
I think Martin will work out at LT, but only time will tell. Reportedly, he is working out at Stanford getting stronger. I don't think the drop-off was too concerning after Long got hurt last year.

Don't forget about Lance Louis in the mix at guard too. Probably will unseat Jerry as a starter this year.

 
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I'm told free agent tackle Bryant McKinnie is visiting Dolphins' facility today. Team obviously needs a tackle. McKinnie now on the radar.

 
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I'm told free agent tackle Bryant McKinnie is visiting Dolphins' facility today. Team obviously needs a tackle. McKinnie now on the radar.
He was good enough for the Ravens to win a superbowl with. Not the long term answer but maybe helps give Martin another year to develop before moving to the left side or if Martin can't cut it buys us a year to draft/trade/acquire a left tackle.

 
Eugene Monroe is going into a contract year, any reason Miami doesn't try to pick up the phone and see what it would take to get a younger Tackle with more upside than maybe some of these guys they have brought in for multiple visits now?

Jax just spent the #2 pick in the draft on Tackle, make the call Ireland!

 

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