Official "Eat your Chris Brown Crow" thread (1 Viewer)

[tommyGunZ]

I have absolutely no idea how good Chris Brown will be this year, but as of now I'm admitting I missed the boat early on. Even if Brown is a below average NFL RB, he can't help but put up solid RB2 numbers in that Tenn offense. The fact that he'll get the goal line carries is icing on the cake. A. Smith appears to be no factor, and Brown should get most of the catches on 3rd down as well. Everything suggests a big year from the 2nd year back.Those of you who had the foresight to take Brown in June and July drafts: kudos.Those of us who clowned folks for "reaching" for Brown in those early drafts: WE WAS WRONG.Carry on.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

:rotflmao: It's not a FF season until....

 

[EastBayFunk]

Z18 (late Feb.):Chris Brown (4.03) - Petty theft Thomas Jones (11.02) - Grand theftForum Challenge League (today):Tom Brady (4.12) - I got jacked.

 

[tommyGunZ]

:rotflmao: It's not a FF season until....

I was critical when a couple of guys took Brown late 3rd/early 4th in June/July survivor drafts. Regardless of Brown's final totals, he's a good play at those picks.If Brown ends up with better stats than Thomas Jones, I may quit fantasy football altogether.

 

[JohnnyTitan]

If Brown ends up with better stats than Thomas Jones, I may quit fantasy football altogether.

I really don't see how he won't.If A-Train leaves town, that helps. But TJ and CB are being compared often these days, and I'm wondering why?The Titans will win 5 games more than the Bears, be leading more late in games and will score more rushing TDs than the Bears.Brown 3, Jones 0 IMO.

 

[EastBayFunk]

True, but Thomas Jones looks like what that machine from "Weird Science" would come up with if you told it to create the perfect running back. Surely that's worth a point or two.

 

[cracKer]

Z18 (late Feb.):Chris Brown (4.03) - Petty theft Thomas Jones (11.02) - Grand theftForum Challenge League (today):Tom Brady (4.12) - I got jacked.

Z14:Chris Brown in the 4th, Thomas Jones in the 12th

 

[Sammy B]

If A-Train leaves town, that helps. But TJ and CB are being compared often these days, and I'm wondering why?The Titans will win 5 games more than the Bears, be leading more late in games and will score more rushing TDs than the Bears.

I couldn't agree more. Also, a lot of defenses are going play the run first against the Bears. There just isn't a standout target after Jones. The Titans have better weapons which should benefit Brown. Plus they have McNair, he keeps Ds honest.

 

[agent 86]

Every time I look at the rankings, Brown seems to move up. IMHO, the FBG projections could still be considered conservative. Eddie always seemed to average close to 20 carries/game when healthy and with a extra carry or two per game, he suddenly is a top 10 RB. Between the Titan's schedule and competing for the playoffs, this guy'll almost certainly go in the top 20 of my draft. He has more upside than almost all the other RB's projected to go in the 2nd round IMHO.

 

[BassNBrew]

Those of you who had the foresight to take Brown in June and July drafts: kudos.

Ditto the guys pointing out Jones is the second coming of Faulk.

 

[Faust]

Those of you who had the foresight to take Brown in June and July drafts: kudos.

Ditto the guys pointing out Jones is the second coming of Faulk.

I thought Priest Holmes was the second coming of Faulk.

 

[mbuehner]

I thought Priest Holmes was the second coming of Faulk.

Kevin Faulk is the second coming of Faulk.

 

[BassNBrew]

Those of you who had the foresight to take Brown in June and July drafts:  kudos.

Ditto the guys pointing out Jones is the second coming of Faulk.

I thought Priest Holmes was the second coming of Faulk.

Holmes doesn't miss enough games.

 

[TenMidgets]

Is Chris Brown now a late second round/early third round pick? I am drafting 9th in a 10 team league and was targeting him as my 3rd round pick (3.09). But do you think he'll still be there for me? I would also take Quentin Griffin, Lee Suggs or Thomas Jones in that slot as my RB2 (would like to get Barlow and Harrison in rounds 1&2) will any of those backs be there? What's happening in your drafts?

 

[JohnnyU]

Earlier this year, I took C Brown in the 3rd rd in one league and the 4th in another. This was for leagues Champagne Classic and Grass in your Mask. I simply was afraid I would miss out getting him if I waited. That probably wasn't the case, and the pick could still be considered a bad pick, because maybe I could have selected him a couple rounds later. Then again, maybe not. I own Brown in 4 of 5 dynasty leagues. The other two leagues, I drafted Brown in the 1st rd of rookie dynasty drafts. I hope he pans out, because after taking him so early in 2 veteran drafts, I need him to be a stud.

 

[Spiderman]

Is Fisher going to be as patient with Brown as he was with George? George's yards per carry has been down for the past several seasons, but Fisher stuck with him for the most part.With A.Smith as the backup, does Fisher have a shorter leash/less patience if Brown starts off slowly or has a bad game or two? I'm not suggesting that A.Smith is anything special, but he is a veteran player, and some coaches could turn to that if a younger player struggles.

 

[JohnnyU]

Is Fisher going to be as patient with Brown as he was with George? George's yards per carry has been down for the past several seasons, but Fisher stuck with him for the most part.With A.Smith as the backup, does Fisher have a shorter leash/less patience if Brown starts off slowly or has a bad game or two? I'm not suggesting that A.Smith is anything special, but he is a veteran player, and some coaches could turn to that if a younger player struggles.

A Smith is notoriously a slow starter. He also hasn't looked good in the preseason. I think Fisher will stick with Brown, even if he struggles initially.

 

[Capella]

I didn't realize the season started yet.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I didn't realize the season started yet.

HERD is right. The season hasn't started yet. But even he should admit that it looks good that Brown will get the OPPORTUNITY to perform, which was what most of the dispute was over earlier. Getting the bulk of the work in that offense SHOULD lead to quality fantasy production. We'll see if it does.SLbD

 

[JohnnyTitan]

Is Fisher going to be as patient with Brown as he was with George? George's yards per carry has been down for the past several seasons, but Fisher stuck with him for the most part.With A.Smith as the backup, does Fisher have a shorter leash/less patience if Brown starts off slowly or has a bad game or two? I'm not suggesting that A.Smith is anything special, but he is a veteran player, and some coaches could turn to that if a younger player struggles.

If Brown "Struggles", I don't think it will be his ypc that will get him yanked off the field.Like most young RBs, Brown will be in hot water if he misses blocks or fumbles the rock. I don't think he'd get pulled in favour of A. Smith because of lack of production.

 

[joffer]

I didn't realize the season started yet.

thank god. I thought I was the only one thinking this. I was afraid I slept through the first five weeks or something.

 

[LHUCKS]

I didn't realize the season started yet.

thank god. I thought I was the only one thinking this. I was afraid I slept through the first five weeks or something.

We'll see how Crissy Brown holds up. I admit that she looks good so far this year, but my money still says she doesn't make it through the season. Who wants some of that action?

 

[Colin Dowling]

On a third-and-1 in the first quarter, ''Chris really should have been in there,'' offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger said, ''but he had just made two long runs and it is preseason.

''We are still trying to get a feel for Chris and how much we can ride him. If that is regular season, Chris is going to stay in there unless he is raising his hand and he's dead.''

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What say you, Titans RBBC Proponent?Colin

 

[mbuehner]

thank god. I thought I was the only one thinking this. I was afraid I slept through the first five weeks or something

You there, what year is it?!

 

[JohnnyU]

I didn't realize the season started yet. 

thank god. I thought I was the only one thinking this. I was afraid I slept through the first five weeks or something.

We'll see how Crissy Brown holds up. I admit that he looks good so far this year, but my money still says he doesn't make it through the season. Who wants some of that action?

First of all, you were wrong about Brown in every way, so now you have no choice but to play your last card, which is the "injury card". Pitiful

 

[rabidfireweasel]

The Titans will win 5 games more than the Bears, be leading more late in games and will score more rushing TDs than the Bears.Brown 3, Jones 0 IMO.

At first glance, these appears logical. Yet, it has absolutely no basis in reality.Winning games means nothing when it comes to production at the rb position-see LT, Priest of 2 and 3 years ago, Shaun Alexander prior to last year- etc. The list goes on and on. Losing teams with bad D's often are commited to the run to keep the score close.Leading late in games is an assertion that also carries little weight. Teams often play a soft defense when late and the rb gets lots of dump offs, big runs, and garbage time touchdowns.Look at Domanick Davis and Eddie George last year. The Titans won more games, were ahead late in more games, had playmakers at other positions to help Eddie, and Davis did much more in fewer games.

 

[LHUCKS]

I didn't realize the season started yet.

thank god. I thought I was the only one thinking this. I was afraid I slept through the first five weeks or something.

We'll see how Crissy Brown holds up. I admit that he looks good so far this year, but my money still says he doesn't make it through the season. Who wants some of that action?

First of all, you were wrong about Brown in every way, so now you have no choice but to play your last card, which is the "injury card". Pitiful

Nobody is "wrong" until the season commences. And the injury card is not the only card I played. I stated several reasons why Brown's risk was too high to justify his ADP.

 

[switz]

I didn't realize the season started yet. 

thank god. I thought I was the only one thinking this. I was afraid I slept through the first five weeks or something.

We'll see how Crissy Brown holds up. I admit that he looks good so far this year, but my money still says he doesn't make it through the season. Who wants some of that action?

First of all, you were wrong about Brown in every way, so now you have no choice but to play your last card, which is the "injury card". Pitiful

Nobody is "wrong" until the season commences. And the injury card is not the only card I played. I stated several reasons why Brown's risk was too high to justify his ADP.

LH, man you are starting to make yourself look bad. You are going to get lumped in with TGz Portis/Henry bashing. You should quit while you are ahead. Face it, Brown has far exceeded your expectations. You were wrong about him splitting time with Antowain. You were wrgon about them not cutting Eddie. You were wrong that Brown was going to stink up the joint. Now, by all accounts, you are still sticking to the "he won't make it through the season" schtick. Maybe he won't, but at this point he is poised to exceed his draf tposition by quite a bit. He hasn't looked hurt at all this preseason, and isn't even as aggrssive in hitting people as Eddie was, I don't see him wearing down at all.

 

[JohnnyU]

I didn't realize the season started yet. 

thank god. I thought I was the only one thinking this. I was afraid I slept through the first five weeks or something.

We'll see how Crissy Brown holds up. I admit that he looks good so far this year, but my money still says he doesn't make it through the season. Who wants some of that action?

First of all, you were wrong about Brown in every way, so now you have no choice but to play your last card, which is the "injury card". Pitiful

Nobody is "wrong" until the season commences. And the injury card is not the only card I played. I stated several reasons why Brown's risk was too high to justify his ADP.

So, when he reels off a great 1st half of the season, then gets dinged up in say, week 10, you will be here saying "I told you so about Brown". Now what makes that a mockery, is that by week 10, you could be wrong about Brown in every way except for one last thing (the injury card).

 

[switz]

Is Fisher going to be as patient with Brown as he was with George? George's yards per carry has been down for the past several seasons, but Fisher stuck with him for the most part.With A.Smith as the backup, does Fisher have a shorter leash/less patience if Brown starts off slowly or has a bad game or two? I'm not suggesting that A.Smith is anything special, but he is a veteran player, and some coaches could turn to that if a younger player struggles.

If Brown "Struggles", I don't think it will be his ypc that will get him yanked off the field.Like most young RBs, Brown will be in hot water if he misses blocks or fumbles the rock. I don't think he'd get pulled in favour of A. Smith because of lack of production.

Considering Fisher said Brown picks up the blitz best out of all the RBs I don't think that wil be a problem... and fumbling hasn't been a issue, has it?Brown is for real...

 

[Colin Dowling]

I didn't realize the season started yet. 

thank god. I thought I was the only one thinking this. I was afraid I slept through the first five weeks or something.

We'll see how Crissy Brown holds up. I admit that he looks good so far this year, but my money still says he doesn't make it through the season. Who wants some of that action?

First of all, you were wrong about Brown in every way, so now you have no choice but to play your last card, which is the "injury card". Pitiful

Nobody is "wrong" until the season commences. And the injury card is not the only card I played. I stated several reasons why Brown's risk was too high to justify his ADP.

Nobody is "wrong" until the season commences.

If you don't think I'll find the post where you over and over and over declared it would be a RBBC, I assure you I will.You were wrong about Eddie staying.You were wrong about it being a RBBC with Smith.Fess up, or look silly. Its up to you.Colin

 

[SammyJankis]

I didn't realize the season started yet. 

thank god. I thought I was the only one thinking this. I was afraid I slept through the first five weeks or something.

We'll see how Crissy Brown holds up. I admit that she looks good so far this year, but my money still says she doesn't make it through the season. Who wants some of that action?

I thought you got out of the oddsmaking business:

David Yudkin: If George is not on the roster, does that change anyone's opinion of Brown? LHUCKS: It would definitely change my opinion. The odds of that actually happening...50:1

Can I parlay some of my 50:1 winnings on the "Chrissy Brown to make it through the season" bet?

 

[Local303]

:rotflmao: It's not a FF season until....

I was critical when a couple of guys took Brown late 3rd/early 4th in June/July survivor drafts. Regardless of Brown's final totals, he's a good play at those picks.If Brown ends up with better stats than Thomas Jones, I may quit fantasy football altogether.

and I quote Alec Baldwin

 

[LHUCKS]

Sorry to interrupt the "I reached on Chris Brown in the 3rd" rally. There will be no fessing up. I'm not convinced that Brown can justify his ADP given the several factors I've listed in the past.

 

[LHUCKS]

David Yudkin: If George is not on the roster, does that change anyone's opinion of Brown? LHUCKS: It would definitely change my opinion. The odds of that actually happening...50:1

Can I parlay some of my 50:1 winnings on the "Chrissy Brown to make it through the season" bet?

I am still shocked George didnt' stay in Tennessee.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Sorry to interrupt the "I reached on Chris Brown in the 3rd" rally. There will be no fessing up. I'm not convinced that Brown can justify his ADP given the several factors I've listed in the past.

Of course there will be no fessing up. That wouldn't be your style...Make a Good Pick = Bump an old postMake a Bad pick = Don't fess up, adding condition after condition as to why you aren't wrong.I don't know whats worse, watching you drown or seeing you push the liferaft away because you know it isn't bouyant enough to hold your ego. COlin

 

[LongDuckDong]

I'm not convinced that Brown can justify his ADP given the several factors I've listed in the past.

I'm one of the reachers and I agree with that. That said, I like the guy a lot, and I know he'd have been taken within a few picks of when I took the guy. But we're not drafting him for "upside", we're drafting him where he would go if we knew he'd put up the type of numbers being bandied about for him. There isn't a lot of upside in him unless he explodes into a 1500 yard back. Alas, the problem with the hyped guys. If they do what you think they will, all you've gotten is value for the draft slot. And Im as guilty as anyone about this.

 

[LHUCKS]

Sorry to interrupt the "I reached on Chris Brown in the 3rd" rally. There will be no fessing up. I'm not convinced that Brown can justify his ADP given the several factors I've listed in the past.

Of course there will be no fessing up. That wouldn't be your style...Make a Good Pick = Bump an old postMake a Bad pick = Don't fess up, adding condition after condition as to why you aren't wrong.I don't know whats worse, watching you drown or seeing you push the liferaft away because you know it isn't bouyant enough to hold your ego. COlin

Again...the word "wrong" should not be used in August.

 

[Banger]

Is Fisher going to be as patient with Brown as he was with George? George's yards per carry has been down for the past several seasons, but Fisher stuck with him for the most part.With A.Smith as the backup, does Fisher have a shorter leash/less patience if Brown starts off slowly or has a bad game or two? I'm not suggesting that A.Smith is anything special, but he is a veteran player, and some coaches could turn to that if a younger player struggles.

Problem is, the alternative to Brown is not that exciting. If you've watched A. Smith run behind the same line as Brown this season, it's not even close. I would be much more worried if Smith was looking good but he's not.

 

[LHUCKS]

Is Fisher going to be as patient with Brown as he was with George? George's yards per carry has been down for the past several seasons, but Fisher stuck with him for the most part.With A.Smith as the backup, does Fisher have a shorter leash/less patience if Brown starts off slowly or has a bad game or two? I'm not suggesting that A.Smith is anything special, but he is a veteran player, and some coaches could turn to that if a younger player struggles.

Problem is, the alternative to Brown is not that exciting. If you've watched A. Smith run behind the same line as Brown this season, it's not even close. I would be much more worried if Smith was looking good but he's not.

Smith is what he has always been. A consistent, yet unspectacular player. He is going to have a much larger role than many posters in this thread realize.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Sorry to interrupt the "I reached on Chris Brown in the 3rd" rally.  There will be no fessing up.  I'm not convinced that Brown can justify his ADP given the several factors I've listed in the past.

Of course there will be no fessing up. That wouldn't be your style...Make a Good Pick = Bump an old postMake a Bad pick = Don't fess up, adding condition after condition as to why you aren't wrong.I don't know whats worse, watching you drown or seeing you push the liferaft away because you know it isn't bouyant enough to hold your ego. COlin

Again...the word "wrong" should not be used in August.

Again, you were WRONG.You declared it a RBBC and said you would maintain that stance until the Coaching staff said otherwise. THey have said that, ergo, on the case of "Tennessee will be a RBBC", you are wrong.Accept it and we'll move on.Colin

 

[Banger]

Is Fisher going to be as patient with Brown as he was with George? George's yards per carry has been down for the past several seasons, but Fisher stuck with him for the most part.With A.Smith as the backup, does Fisher have a shorter leash/less patience if Brown starts off slowly or has a bad game or two? I'm not suggesting that A.Smith is anything special, but he is a veteran player, and some coaches could turn to that if a younger player struggles.

Problem is, the alternative to Brown is not that exciting. If you've watched A. Smith run behind the same line as Brown this season, it's not even close. I would be much more worried if Smith was looking good but he's not.

Smith is what he has always been. A consistent, yet unspectacular player. He is going to have a much larger role than many posters in this thread realize.

you predicted a 53% Brown 47% Smith split accrdg to your projections if I remember correctly.....

 

[mbuehner]

He is going to have a much larger role than many posters in this thread realize.

Little tip, the word 'will' is your enemy. The word 'may' is your friend.Basically, why should we believe you instead of the coach, the coordinators, and the team? I mean, this sounds kinda definitive:

''We are still trying to get a feel for Chris and how much we can ride him. If that is regular season, Chris is going to stay in there unless he is raising his hand and he's dead.''

http://www.tennessean.com/sports/titans/ar...ent_ID=56391356So are you predicting the death of Chris Brown? Might as well be, predicting injuries is nutty to begin with, and its just ridiculous when the guy you're talking about is 6'3 220 lbs. This isnt exactly Quentin Griffin here. If im not mistaken, Brown carried the ball 300 times in his last year at school. By what basis are you predicting injury other than its the only thing that fits your dwindling thesis?

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

The only problem that I see with Brown is if they intend on using him as a horse than he will most likely not be used at the GLIf Brown can catch the ball he may have a Fred Taylor type of year but I doubt it.It wasn't Eddie alone that contributed to his 3.0 YPC it was also the O-Line in general.Also note that McNair is more than likely to end up with 4-5 Rushing TD's and I notice that Tenn likes to Target Calico in the end zone from 5-10 yards out.Antowain Smith will have a role with this team ... what exactly that will be is yet to be determined however I think it is safe to expect the same RB15-20 type of numbers from Chris BrownMike Bennett > Thomas Jones > Chris BrownTHats my view and I am sticking to it

 

[LHUCKS]

So are you predicting the death of Chris Brown?

Might as well be, predicting injuries is nutty to begin with, and its just ridiculous when the guy you're talking about is 6'3 220 lbs. This isnt exactly Quentin Griffin here. If im not mistaken, Brown carried the ball 300 times in his last year at school. By what basis are you predicting injury other than its the only thing that fits your dwindling thesis?

No, I'm predicting that Brown will not justify his ADP.In terms of injury....very few human beings can sustain the punishment to last even 10 games in the NFL as an everydown back. Fisher and the Titans know that and it is why the acquired A. Smith.

Further, Chris Brown has been dinged up quite a bit since entering the NFL and I don't see why that is going to change all of a sudden.

I will admit when I'm wrong, and I always have. We're not there yet fellas.

 

[JohnnyU]

I will admit when I'm wrong, and I always have.

It's not in your vocabulary.

 

[Banger]

So are you predicting the death of Chris Brown?

Might as well be, predicting injuries is nutty to begin with, and its just ridiculous when the guy you're talking about is 6'3 220 lbs. This isnt exactly Quentin Griffin here.  If im not mistaken, Brown carried the ball 300 times in his last year at school. By what basis are you predicting injury other than its the only thing that fits your dwindling thesis?

No, I'm predicting that Brown will not justify his ADP.In terms of injury....very few human beings can sustain the punishment to last even 10 games in the NFL as an everydown back. Fisher and the Titans know that and it is why the acquired A. Smith.

Further, Chris Brown has been dinged up quite a bit since entering the NFL and I don't see why that is going to change all of a sudden.

I will admit when I'm wrong, and I always have. We're not there yet fellas.

What is his ADP? Because a several weeks ago when I drafted it was about the 7th or so. Now it's probably in the 3rd somewhere, so when you keep referring to his ADP which one are you referring to?For the record, I think Brown WILL justify his ADP.

 

[mbuehner]

This is the first time i've seen a 6'3, 23 year old running back downgraded because hes going to play too much. Personally im going to keep Alexander, Tomlinson, Barlow, Holmes, Green, Portis, James, and Lewis right where they are in my rankings. Carrying the ball a bunch of times, in my contraversial opinion, is a good thing. I mean, that list of guys has something in common right?

 

[Colin Dowling]

So are you predicting the death of Chris Brown?

Might as well be, predicting injuries is nutty to begin with, and its just ridiculous when the guy you're talking about is 6'3 220 lbs. This isnt exactly Quentin Griffin here. If im not mistaken, Brown carried the ball 300 times in his last year at school. By what basis are you predicting injury other than its the only thing that fits your dwindling thesis?

No, I'm predicting that Brown will not justify his ADP.In terms of injury....very few human beings can sustain the punishment to last even 10 games in the NFL as an everydown back. Fisher and the Titans know that and it is why the acquired A. Smith.

Further, Chris Brown has been dinged up quite a bit since entering the NFL and I don't see why that is going to change all of a sudden.

I will admit when I'm wrong, and I always have. We're not there yet fellas.

No no no no no no no.You have said many things, including "Brown will not justify his ADP." THe jury is still out on that, I grant you.

But you also said it would be a RBBC, which the coach has said is not the case.

Your statement was WRONG and I'm juvenille enough to keep tabs on this thread until you admit it.

COlin

 

[tommyGunZ]

In terms of injury....very few human beings can sustain the punishment to last even 10 games in the NFL as an everydown back. Fisher and the Titans know that and it is why the acquired A. Smith.

Not to pile on, but I don't see how this fact strengthens your argument, LHUCKS. It's apparent to almost everyone that Smith is strictly a backup/insurance policy, and not a real threat to steal meaningful opportunities from Brown.If you cite A. Smith as reason to steer clear of Brown at this point, I assume you're also advising folks to stay away from Priest b/c of Larry Johnson, LT2 b/c of Michael Turner, A. Green b/c of Davenport, etc. Do you really think the Titans are planning for Smith to have a significant role in their running game?