***OFFICIAL 'Fear The Walking Dead' Thread*** (2 Viewers)

[Michael Brown]

I'm glad they aren't rushing into showing zombies non-stop. People's reactions and seeing the decay of modern civilization is much more interesting to me than the whole "let's sneak into a dark house, OMG THERE'S A ZOMBIE IN HERE, kill it, rinse, repeat"

it was an hour and a half about one family that just so happened had direct confrontations with THREE separate zombies. I wouldnt have minded a show about the destruction of society but that wasnt it. I realize it was just one episode though but that was disappointing opening.

I feel like it's only two. I know the parents were on the ramp when the one guy was shot to death, but unless I'm missing another one, that wasn't really an "interaction". Just happened to be on the same roadway. And the other two were the OD in the church in the opening scene and then the dude near the reservoir. I thought the implication was that Nick is carrying a disease that is ultra-contagious. Seeing as how he was around a couple of people who then died shortly thereafter, it seems like that makes sense that HE would be around the zombies right at the outset of everything.

I seem to recall the scene when he left the hospital, and he is seen limping around in the foreground and then they cut to a wide angle of downtown LA as if to show the viewers: it's coming. And this is how it all blows up.

The kid that brought the knife to school said there had been reports in 5 states. Doubt Nick has anything that no one else has. I imagine Gloria died of an overdose maybe downstairs, or those guys snatched her. Either way she zombies up and bites the guys throat out. Other guy stabs her through the chest with what looked like rebar. She doesn't drop and kills him and starts face munching. Then Nick wakes up and wanders.

Not saying Nick is the only one to have it, just that he's patient zero in how it gets spread around LA IMO. Maybe there was something in the drugs. He picked up the disease, but is still alive and now a carrier. Gloria picked up the disease and presumably OD'd, so when she died she turned to a zombie. Now anybody Nick is around gets infected by him, but until they die they won't show symptoms (like the hospital dude and the drug dealer). But after they die, even though they weren't bit or scratched or had any contact with a "walker", just having had contact with Nick put the disease into them. So when they die, they zombify.

Agreed, but I wouldn't call him patient zero. He is one of many patient zeros, like the guy in the police shoot out. We won't ever find out where it came from, but Nick was around his girl and she clearly caught it and OD'd. She then bit those other people and unless she ate the kid, he and the guy in the doorway came back as well.

Yeah agreed on multiple patient zeroes actually. Just that none of them are characters in a show

 

[tonydead]

My wife is revolted by The Walking Dead. So revolted, in fact, that she claimed that I could watch anything else but the season premier of the spin-off.

Giants/Pirates game on the tube right now!

Your wife tells you what you can watch on tv?

 

[tommyboy]

based on the previews, episode 2 is going to be much more brisk

 

[tonydead]

Slow but doesn't seem as stupid as TWD.

Yeah, this is superior in terms of cerebral processing

All I know is they got through 90 minutes without some character making a really stupid mistake just to keep things moving.

It's the first episode. Give it time. Thems writers in this showe are idiuts

To be fair they aren't trying to just survive yet. It might be season 2 before it's survival of the fittest and the writers hit their pace with doing things counteractive to that.

 

[playin4beer]

based on the previews, episode 2 is going to be much more brisk

I thought they said "this season on Fear The Walking Dead" before showing those... I assumed that was a season long preview..

 

[JohnnyU]

Slow but doesn't seem as stupid as TWD.

Yeah, this is superior in terms of cerebral processing

All I know is they got through 90 minutes without some character making a really stupid mistake just to keep things moving.

It's the first episode. Give it time. Thems writers in this showe are idiuts

To be fair they aren't trying to just survive yet. It might be season 2 before it's survival of the fittest and the writers hit their pace with doing things counteractive to that.

You would think people would understand that

 

[cstu]

Something i dont understand is the virus lives in everybody and you turn when you die. Then how come all the students are absent from school with the flu? Are they gonna die from the flu and turn or did the virus actually start out like a flu? Because that is not the story they told in TWD.

There's no evidence of people actually having the flu. It was implied that parents were keeping their kids home due to reports from other states of people being killed. It's realistic since most parents wouldn't want to call the school and say "Johnny isn't coming to school today because I think a zombie apocalypse is starting".

 

[tommyboy]

maybe a bad strain of synthetic heroin got spread around- man made zombies

this actually would be a realistic way to spread a deadly virus

 

[comfortably numb]

based on the previews, episode 2 is going to be much more brisk

cause it will not be 90 min like the pilot?

 

[tommyboy]

based on the previews, episode 2 is going to be much more brisk

I thought they said "this season on Fear The Walking Dead" before showing those... I assumed that was a season long preview..

i don't think so, but maybe i'm wrong.

so they've set the table with the 1st episode, which definitely picked up the pace the last 30 mins. I think the next episode will show the degeneration of the situation rather quickly. Something like this type of outbreak you would have to assume it would be an exponential growth rate the first 30 days, and we're already into the 1st week or so (the 5 states allusion) week 2 and 3 would be catastrophic as you lose key members of society that provide basic services such as gas and water, electricity, police/medical etc...

unfortunately for us, its going to be hard for them to milk 3 or 4 seasons out of this type of meltdown. Eventually after the initial shock, we're just going to be Walking Dead part 2.

 

[Buckna]

I would agree, I would think by episode 6 and season end we will be at a full month and society is totally collapsing mode. But they could actually milk that for two seasons if they wanted to. There are a lot of things mentioned in passing in Kirkmans universe that they glossed over that this show could explore. The Initial Fall, the govt/army response, establishment of safe zones, fall of said safe zones.

Don't forget, we jump into Ricks story at least a month ahead. Then there's time spent on the road, months spent on the farm, months spent on the road before the prison. They skipped ahead quite a bit in terms of time on the first show, dont neccessaroly have to this time.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Off to a good start!

 

[El Floppo]

I'm glad they aren't rushing into showing zombies non-stop. People's reactions and seeing the decay of modern civilization is much more interesting to me than the whole "let's sneak into a dark house, OMG THERE'S A ZOMBIE IN HERE, kill it, rinse, repeat"

it was an hour and a half about one family that just so happened had direct confrontations with THREE separate zombies. I wouldnt have minded a show about the destruction of society but that wasnt it. I realize it was just one episode though but that was disappointing opening.

I feel like it's only two. I know the parents were on the ramp when the one guy was shot to death, but unless I'm missing another one, that wasn't really an "interaction". Just happened to be on the same roadway. And the other two were the OD in the church in the opening scene and then the dude near the reservoir. I thought the implication was that Nick is carrying a disease that is ultra-contagious. Seeing as how he was around a couple of people who then died shortly thereafter, it seems like that makes sense that HE would be around the zombies right at the outset of everything.

I seem to recall the scene when he left the hospital, and he is seen limping around in the foreground and then they cut to a wide angle of downtown LA as if to show the viewers: it's coming. And this is how it all blows up.

The kid that brought the knife to school said there had been reports in 5 states. Doubt Nick has anything that no one else has. I imagine Gloria died of an overdose maybe downstairs, or those guys snatched her. Either way she zombies up and bites the guys throat out. Other guy stabs her through the chest with what looked like rebar. She doesn't drop and kills him and starts face munching. Then Nick wakes up and wanders.

Not saying Nick is the only one to have it, just that he's patient zero in how it gets spread around LA IMO. Maybe there was something in the drugs. He picked up the disease, but is still alive and now a carrier. Gloria picked up the disease and presumably OD'd, so when she died she turned to a zombie. Now anybody Nick is around gets infected by him, but until they die they won't show symptoms (like the hospital dude and the drug dealer). But after they die, even though they weren't bit or scratched or had any contact with a "walker", just having had contact with Nick put the disease into them. So when they die, they zombify.

Agreed, but I wouldn't call him patient zero. He is one of many patient zeros, like the guy in the police shoot out. We won't ever find out where it came from, but Nick was around his girl and she clearly caught it and OD'd. She then bit those other people and unless she ate the kid, he and the guy in the doorway came back as well.

Yeah agreed on multiple patient zeroes actually. Just that none of them are characters in a show

the drugs thing might be an answer- but I took it that the church chick OD'd, died and then started eating.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

maybe a bad strain of synthetic heroin got spread around- man made zombies

Did Walter White produce Heroin as well as Meth?

 

[El Floppo]

I liked it fine. As somebody else said, nothing jumping out as idiotically written yet, and I kind of bought into the characters. Thought I was going to have a problem with the daughter as the annoying contrarian teen... but seems a little more nuanced than that, thankfully. I like seeing the beginning of this thing, rather than jumping into the middle like WD.

only issues:

- heavy handed cliche score, where the music amps up when it's "scary" time to try to build the scare/suspense.

- heavy handed Nick stumbling around too obviously like a zombie.

- no coral.

 

[3C's]

Horrible

Kim Dickens character is hateable and has me missing Lori.

Not bad for 50yo though.

 

[playin4beer]

My biggest complaint was how slow the news and the story was spreading..

Just from what we've seen, there should at least a few zombies walking around.. the ones in the church

were just "gone".. where'd they go? And if it was in 5 States already, they should be multiplying in

hordes by now. In the innerwebs age, this story should have went viral with the first face chewing off.

I understand if people were just suddenly getting "infected" and dying and then at some point down the road

something happened and they turned into zombies, but when they turn pretty much immediately after dying?? How

many people in LA die per day?? Nevermind, I googled it.. 155 per day on average...

 

[tommyboy]

this all happened in a 2 day span, correct? i mean, the first episode.

really thinking the next episode will be so much more action.

 

[El Floppo]

My biggest complaint was how slow the news and the story was spreading..

Just from what we've seen, there should at least a few zombies walking around.. the ones in the church

were just "gone".. where'd they go? And if it was in 5 States already, they should be multiplying in

hordes by now. In the innerwebs age, this story should have went viral with the first face chewing off.

I understand if people were just suddenly getting "infected" and dying and then at some point down the road

something happened and they turned into zombies, but when they turn pretty much immediately after dying?? How

many people in LA die per day?? Nevermind, I googled it.. 155 per day on average...

good point- but I got the sense that the only people aware of the 5 states were the deep-web nerds like pimply fat kid. from the way the teachers and students were watching it at school, the roadside EMT news images was the first of the big videos that actually made it out viral- and the story will go from there.

 

[Jobber]

That pilot was pretty darn good. I'm hooked.

 

[moleculo]

there were a few hints the writers dropped - the teacher going on about man vs nature discussing Jack London, and another teacher talking about chaos theory.

I like the theory that Nick is patient zero (i.e. the only people who become zombies after they die were in contact with nick or other zombies derived from Nick), but that doesn't describe the 5 other states that the pimply kid was talking about. Maybe there are 5 other "Nicks" out there, carrying the same disease.

 

[tommyboy]

drug dealer would be patient zero in this one episode so its def not Nick.

 

[cstu]

there were a few hints the writers dropped - the teacher going on about man vs nature discussing Jack London, and another teacher talking about chaos theory.

I like the theory that Nick is patient zero (i.e. the only people who become zombies after they die were in contact with nick or other zombies derived from Nick), but that doesn't describe the 5 other states that the pimply kid was talking about. Maybe there are 5 other "Nicks" out there, carrying the same disease.

There's no patient zero - the virus spread before anyone died and turned into a zombie.

Nick's GF likely OD'ed then turned and started eating people.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

If the daughter's boyfriend is an artist why were they working on the spotlight things?

77 cents seems like a pretty good deal for a knife.

I'm not a doctor but I'm not sure if dropping a bedpan would really kill someone.

Why go to Denny's if you're not going to eat? Stupid.

The kid that answered the question about "Where the Red Fern Grows" is the same one that got ran over in the canal, right?

 

[cstu]

My biggest complaint was how slow the news and the story was spreading..

Just from what we've seen, there should at least a few zombies walking around.. the ones in the church

were just "gone".. where'd they go? And if it was in 5 States already, they should be multiplying in

hordes by now. In the innerwebs age, this story should have went viral with the first face chewing off.

I understand if people were just suddenly getting "infected" and dying and then at some point down the road

something happened and they turned into zombies, but when they turn pretty much immediately after dying?? How

many people in LA die per day?? Nevermind, I googled it.. 155 per day on average...

The show did make it seem there was a cover-up, but something that big would have been impossible.

 

[cstu]

If the daughter's boyfriend is an artist why were they working on the spotlight things?

77 cents seems like a pretty good deal for a knife.

I'm not a doctor but I'm not sure if dropping a bedpan would really kill someone.

Why go to Denny's if you're not going to eat? Stupid.

The kid that answered the question about "Where the Red Fern Grows" is the same one that got ran over in the canal, right?

 

[SacramentoBob]

I'm not a doctor but I'm not sure if dropping a bedpan would really kill someone.

Why go to Denny's if you're not going to eat? Stupid.

 

[moleculo]

My biggest complaint was how slow the news and the story was spreading..

Just from what we've seen, there should at least a few zombies walking around.. the ones in the church

were just "gone".. where'd they go? And if it was in 5 States already, they should be multiplying in

hordes by now. In the innerwebs age, this story should have went viral with the first face chewing off.

I understand if people were just suddenly getting "infected" and dying and then at some point down the road

something happened and they turned into zombies, but when they turn pretty much immediately after dying?? How

many people in LA die per day?? Nevermind, I googled it.. 155 per day on average...

The show did make it seem there was a cover-up, but something that big would have been impossible.

Which is why I think Nick is patient zero.

question: would a zombie who has eaten his fill want to eat immediately afterwards? Maybe it spreads slowly at first because the first wave of zombies are full, and just shuffle around... everyone assumes they are just homeless.

That Gloria chick - my assumption is she stayed in the church and ate that guy completely, and then just kind of wandered. If she had chased Nick initially, or wandered hungrily into the street, things would have been out in the open a lot quicker.

 

[Jayrok]

Was ok, not very good. I dislike the main character, his mom and his sister. The dad is about the only character that is likeable, imo. And the drug dealer. But now he's dead.

 

[Copeman]

Was ok, not very good. I dislike the main character, his mom and his sister. The dad is about the only character that is likeable, imo. And the drug dealer. But now he's dead.

I think the dad is the main character, or otherwise known as "Bizarro Rick".

 

[Jayrok]

Was ok, not very good. I dislike the main character, his mom and his sister. The dad is about the only character that is likeable, imo. And the drug dealer. But now he's dead.

I think the dad is the main character, or otherwise known as "Bizarro Rick".

ah.. well that is very different. Yep, now I know I hate it.

 

[El Floppo]

My biggest complaint was how slow the news and the story was spreading..

Just from what we've seen, there should at least a few zombies walking around.. the ones in the church

were just "gone".. where'd they go? And if it was in 5 States already, they should be multiplying in

hordes by now. In the innerwebs age, this story should have went viral with the first face chewing off.

I understand if people were just suddenly getting "infected" and dying and then at some point down the road

something happened and they turned into zombies, but when they turn pretty much immediately after dying?? How

many people in LA die per day?? Nevermind, I googled it.. 155 per day on average...

The show did make it seem there was a cover-up, but something that big would have been impossible.

Which is why I think Nick is patient zero.

question: would a zombie who has eaten his fill want to eat immediately afterwards? Maybe it spreads slowly at first because the first wave of zombies are full, and just shuffle around... everyone assumes they are just homeless.

That Gloria chick - my assumption is she stayed in the church and ate that guy completely, and then just kind of wandered. If she had chased Nick initially, or wandered hungrily into the street, things would have been out in the open a lot quicker.

for the :nerds:

how much do zombies eat? doesn't seem like we ever see completely or even mostly eaten bodies in WD... just partially eaten.

do zombies poop? if not, what are they doing with the stuff they're eating?

 

[Cold Dead Hands]

Was ok, not very good. I dislike the main character, his mom and his sister. The dad is about the only character that is likeable, imo. And the drug dealer. But now he's dead.

I liked the Eddie Haskell type drug dealer too. Pretty much hoping the season finale is the entire family getting killed and starting season 2 with other people.

 

[Cold Dead Hands]

My biggest complaint was how slow the news and the story was spreading..

Just from what we've seen, there should at least a few zombies walking around.. the ones in the church

were just "gone".. where'd they go? And if it was in 5 States already, they should be multiplying in

hordes by now. In the innerwebs age, this story should have went viral with the first face chewing off.

I understand if people were just suddenly getting "infected" and dying and then at some point down the road

something happened and they turned into zombies, but when they turn pretty much immediately after dying?? How

many people in LA die per day?? Nevermind, I googled it.. 155 per day on average...

The show did make it seem there was a cover-up, but something that big would have been impossible.

Which is why I think Nick is patient zero.

question: would a zombie who has eaten his fill want to eat immediately afterwards? Maybe it spreads slowly at first because the first wave of zombies are full, and just shuffle around... everyone assumes they are just homeless.

That Gloria chick - my assumption is she stayed in the church and ate that guy completely, and then just kind of wandered. If she had chased Nick initially, or wandered hungrily into the street, things would have been out in the open a lot quicker.

for the :nerds:

how much do zombies eat? doesn't seem like we ever see completely or even mostly eaten bodies in WD... just partially eaten.

do zombies poop? if not, what are they doing with the stuff they're eating?

Some zombie books delved into this. Some say the meat just sits in there and eventually as the intestines rot, the ###### goes and the stuff just falls out as do all of the zombie's innards.

 

[Jayrok]

Was ok, not very good. I dislike the main character, his mom and his sister. The dad is about the only character that is likeable, imo. And the drug dealer. But now he's dead.

I liked the Eddie Haskell type drug dealer too. Pretty much hoping the season finale is the entire family getting killed and starting season 2 with other people.

Yes, that was great. "Well hello, Mr. and Mrs. drug addicts parents.. it's so nice to see you... yes ma'am, anything for young Nick."

 

[cstu]

Was ok, not very good. I dislike the main character, his mom and his sister. The dad is about the only character that is likeable, imo. And the drug dealer. But now he's dead.

Who was likeable in TWD pilot?

 

[Copeman]

Cliff Curtis is a pretty good actor. I'm gonna hold my response to the casting until I see more of him in this role.

Thought everyone else sucked. Hope they all die.

 

[Cold Dead Hands]

Looks like Principal Obama is going to get dead soon.

 

[Jayrok]

Was ok, not very good. I dislike the main character, his mom and his sister. The dad is about the only character that is likeable, imo. And the drug dealer. But now he's dead.

Who was likeable in TWD pilot?

Rick. And I always liked Shane's character.

 

[tommyboy]

Lol

 

[Copeman]

Was ok, not very good. I dislike the main character, his mom and his sister. The dad is about the only character that is likeable, imo. And the drug dealer. But now he's dead.

Who was likeable in TWD pilot?

Rick. And I always liked Shane's character.

Morgan as well.

 

[Cold Dead Hands]

Was ok, not very good. I dislike the main character, his mom and his sister. The dad is about the only character that is likeable, imo. And the drug dealer. But now he's dead.

Who was likeable in TWD pilot?

Rick. And I always liked Shane's character.

Morgan as well.

I had comic bias coming in and liked Andrea, Dale, and Karl from the jump. Hated Daryl because he doesn't exist in the comic. Boy did I have that #### backwards.

 

[Jayrok]

Was ok, not very good. I dislike the main character, his mom and his sister. The dad is about the only character that is likeable, imo. And the drug dealer. But now he's dead.

Who was likeable in TWD pilot?

Rick. And I always liked Shane's character.

Morgan as well.

I had comic bias coming in and liked Andrea, Dale, and Karl from the jump. Hated Daryl because he doesn't exist in the comic. Boy did I have that #### backwards.

I didn't read the comic prior so had no expectations at all. I disliked Andrea, Dale and Karl from the start. I couldn't imagine the journey without Daryl. They had Gimble on Talking Dead last night and they were talking about the sizable riot they'd have on their hands if he killed off Daryl anytime soon.

 

[Jayrok]

Was ok, not very good. I dislike the main character, his mom and his sister. The dad is about the only character that is likeable, imo. And the drug dealer. But now he's dead.

Who was likeable in TWD pilot?

Rick. And I always liked Shane's character.

Morgan as well.

Yes. And Morgan.

 

[Jayrok]

They hinted at the notion that they were going to have an episode to show how Morgan went from basket case to a staff bearing ninja master.

 

[(HULK)]

Stop with the patient zero stuff.

They're not going to explain how it all started ever. They've made a point of saying that a million times

Also, there is no chance these slow moving dead would ever actually take over the world without some sort of massive initial die off to put the numbers in their favor. None.

Just enjoy the show, a fractured family during the initial days of the zombie outbreak. Hunting for why there is an outbreak is a useless exercise. You'll never know. Wondering about press coverage and the internet... you'll miss the beautiful head of hair cause you're straining to see the nits.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Cliff Curtis is a pretty good actor. I'm gonna hold my response to the casting until I see more of him in this role.

Thought everyone else sucked. Hope they all die.

Curtis is an awesome actor and a personal friend of mine*.

*I nodded to him once when I saw him at a diner in Hollywood a few years ago. He nodded back.

 

[kentric]

My biggest complaint was how slow the news and the story was spreading..

Just from what we've seen, there should at least a few zombies walking around.. the ones in the church

were just "gone".. where'd they go? And if it was in 5 States already, they should be multiplying in

hordes by now. In the innerwebs age, this story should have went viral with the first face chewing off.

I understand if people were just suddenly getting "infected" and dying and then at some point down the road

something happened and they turned into zombies, but when they turn pretty much immediately after dying?? How

many people in LA die per day?? Nevermind, I googled it.. 155 per day on average...

The show did make it seem there was a cover-up, but something that big would have been impossible.

Which is why I think Nick is patient zero.

question: would a zombie who has eaten his fill want to eat immediately afterwards? Maybe it spreads slowly at first because the first wave of zombies are full, and just shuffle around... everyone assumes they are just homeless.

That Gloria chick - my assumption is she stayed in the church and ate that guy completely, and then just kind of wandered. If she had chased Nick initially, or wandered hungrily into the street, things would have been out in the open a lot quicker.

Was thinking about Gloria too. She didn't exactly seem interested in Nick as a dessert.

The zombies in TWD will leave a kill to go after fresh meat. You don't see too many skeleton-type walkers out there. With the few exceptions (like the woman who was half eaten and crawled after Rick in the first or second episode of TWD), seems that walkers don't consume someone completely - just remembered Rick's wife. She was mostly fully consumed.

 

[kentric]

Cliff Curtis is a pretty good actor. I'm gonna hold my response to the casting until I see more of him in this role.

Thought everyone else sucked. Hope they all die.

Curtis is an awesome actor and a personal friend of mine*.

*I nodded to him once when I saw him at a diner in Hollywood a few years ago. He nodded back.

Was he eating lunch with Tim?

eta. NVM. He's not black.

 

[El Floppo]

My biggest complaint was how slow the news and the story was spreading..

Just from what we've seen, there should at least a few zombies walking around.. the ones in the church

were just "gone".. where'd they go? And if it was in 5 States already, they should be multiplying in

hordes by now. In the innerwebs age, this story should have went viral with the first face chewing off.

I understand if people were just suddenly getting "infected" and dying and then at some point down the road

something happened and they turned into zombies, but when they turn pretty much immediately after dying?? How

many people in LA die per day?? Nevermind, I googled it.. 155 per day on average...

The show did make it seem there was a cover-up, but something that big would have been impossible.

Which is why I think Nick is patient zero.

question: would a zombie who has eaten his fill want to eat immediately afterwards? Maybe it spreads slowly at first because the first wave of zombies are full, and just shuffle around... everyone assumes they are just homeless.

That Gloria chick - my assumption is she stayed in the church and ate that guy completely, and then just kind of wandered. If she had chased Nick initially, or wandered hungrily into the street, things would have been out in the open a lot quicker.

Was thinking about Gloria too. She didn't exactly seem interested in Nick as a dessert.

The zombies in TWD will leave a kill to go after fresh meat. You don't see too many skeleton-type walkers out there. With the few exceptions (like the woman who was half eaten and crawled after Rick in the first or second episode of TWD), seems that walkers don't consume someone completely - just remembered Rick's wife. She was mostly fully consumed.

wasn't rick's wife shot in the head by koral? when was she consumed?