Biabreakable
Footballguy
Well he seems to be back on the Vikings band wagon again now that they are doing well. Maybe he just needed a break when the Vikings were starting Ponder.
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**** official February shark pool "what I want my team to do" mock draft ****. Round 4 starts on page 16 (1 Viewer)
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Nucular George
Footballguy
Here's what I have so far for the teams, GMs, etc.
1 1.01 JetMaxx CLE Bradley Chubb, DE, North Carolina State
2 1.02 BlueDredSo BUF (from NYG) Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
3 1.03 Ben & Jerry's IND Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
4 1.04 JetMaxx CLE (from HOU) Sam Darnold, QB, USC
5 1.05 Nucular George DEN Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
6 1.06 Dr. Octopus NYJ Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
7 1.07 Grahamburn TB Vita Vea, NT, Washington
8 1.08 OZ CHI
9 1.09 efactor SF
10 1.10 krsone21 OAK
11 1.11 _____ MIA
12 1.12 _____ CIN
13 1.13 _____ WAS
14 1.14 _____ GB
15 1.15 _____ AZ
16 1.16 _____ BAL
17 1.17 Ben & Jerry's LAC
18 1.18 Duckboy SEA
19 1.19 Bankerguy DAL
20 1.20 ilov80s ? DET
21 1.21 Dr. Octopus NYG
22 1.22 Dr. Octopus NYG (from KC, thru BUF)
23 1.23 _____ LAR
24 1.24 pantherclub CAR
25 1.25 OZ TEN
26 1.26 _____ ATL
27 1.27 _____ NO
28 1.28 Evilgrin 72 PIT
29 1.29 Mr. Brownstone JAX
30 1.30 Andy Dufresne MIN
31 1.31 Dr. Octopus ? NE
32 1.32 need2know PHI
1 1.01 JetMaxx CLE Bradley Chubb, DE, North Carolina State
2 1.02 BlueDredSo BUF (from NYG) Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
3 1.03 Ben & Jerry's IND Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
4 1.04 JetMaxx CLE (from HOU) Sam Darnold, QB, USC
5 1.05 Nucular George DEN Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
6 1.06 Dr. Octopus NYJ Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
7 1.07 Grahamburn TB Vita Vea, NT, Washington
8 1.08 OZ CHI
9 1.09 efactor SF
10 1.10 krsone21 OAK
11 1.11 _____ MIA
12 1.12 _____ CIN
13 1.13 _____ WAS
14 1.14 _____ GB
15 1.15 _____ AZ
16 1.16 _____ BAL
17 1.17 Ben & Jerry's LAC
18 1.18 Duckboy SEA
19 1.19 Bankerguy DAL
20 1.20 ilov80s ? DET
21 1.21 Dr. Octopus NYG
22 1.22 Dr. Octopus NYG (from KC, thru BUF)
23 1.23 _____ LAR
24 1.24 pantherclub CAR
25 1.25 OZ TEN
26 1.26 _____ ATL
27 1.27 _____ NO
28 1.28 Evilgrin 72 PIT
29 1.29 Mr. Brownstone JAX
30 1.30 Andy Dufresne MIN
31 1.31 Dr. Octopus ? NE
32 1.32 need2know PHI
Nucular George
Footballguy
Unless I missed someone, we still have 11 teams open.
MIA
CIN
WAS
GB
AZ
BAL
LAR
ATL
NO
HOU
KC
MIA
CIN
WAS
GB
AZ
BAL
LAR
ATL
NO
HOU
KC
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Biabreakable
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Thanks George.
I could pick for Miami I suppose although my view of Adam Gase has changed due to last season. I think he was wrong about Ajayi and I don't like the way he handled the situation throwing him under the bus for his bad offense. I stopped paying attention to them after the trade but I am still fairly familiar with the team. If any Dolphins fans want to pick for them I can pick for one of these other teams though.
I could pick for Miami I suppose although my view of Adam Gase has changed due to last season. I think he was wrong about Ajayi and I don't like the way he handled the situation throwing him under the bus for his bad offense. I stopped paying attention to them after the trade but I am still fairly familiar with the team. If any Dolphins fans want to pick for them I can pick for one of these other teams though.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Alright, the bears will address their secondary and wait on receivers.
With apologies to the raiders who sent me their pick, I just can't pass on Minkah Fitzpatrick and neither will most of the league.
He was the key to the roll tide defense and can play anywhere. I think he starts as a corner but we'll see. Dude can flat out ball.
With his skill set and versatility, Fitzpatrick looks like a real weapon for a pro defense. He can play the roaming safety role in the middle of the field as his instincts put him in position to make plays on the ball. Another great attribute that Fitzpatrick possesses is being able to play nickel corner. He is good in man coverage to line up over the slot receiver and prevent separation. Fitzpatrick also can play man coverage on tight ends, and his pro defense is going to love having him to help neutralize the elite receiving tight ends of the NFL.
Fitzpatrick also is a threat to take the ball away downfield. He tracks the pass extremely well and shows nice ball skills. For a defensive back, Fitzpatrick has excellent hands. He is a real threat to create interceptions and make a game-changing play for his defense. With his instincts and skill set, Fitzpatrick is able to be the deep free safety center fielder who locks down the deep part of the field. It is hard to find single-high safeties, but Fitzpatrick has that ability. He also is a dangerous blitzer.
In the ground game, Fitzpatrick can drive downhill and tackle in the box. He is very adept at making open-field tackles and preventing offenses from breaking big plays. He flies around the field and is always around the ball. I'm not sure how fast Fitzpatrick will time before the 2018 NFL Draft. He may not produce an electric 40 time, but he plays fast and is a defender who covers a lot of ground.
Fitzpatrick also is a willing run defender as he will come downhill into the box to make tackles. He doesn't hesitate to get physical in the secondary and dish out some hard hits. For the NFL, it might help him to gain 5-10 pounds of muscle to help tackle pro backs and receivers.
Here is how one scout summarized Fitzpatrick, "He's a prototype free safety [for] this day and age, can drop over slot and play man, pro off hash, or roam as center fielder. Good size, speed, athletic ability, high football IQ, play-maker."
For the NFL, I think Fitzpatrick has Pro Bowl potential as a versatile safety who can do a lot things and erase mismatches. I polled sources from around the league, and the consensus had Fitzpatrick as one of the elite six prospects for the 2018 NFL Draft.
With apologies to the raiders who sent me their pick, I just can't pass on Minkah Fitzpatrick and neither will most of the league.
He was the key to the roll tide defense and can play anywhere. I think he starts as a corner but we'll see. Dude can flat out ball.
With his skill set and versatility, Fitzpatrick looks like a real weapon for a pro defense. He can play the roaming safety role in the middle of the field as his instincts put him in position to make plays on the ball. Another great attribute that Fitzpatrick possesses is being able to play nickel corner. He is good in man coverage to line up over the slot receiver and prevent separation. Fitzpatrick also can play man coverage on tight ends, and his pro defense is going to love having him to help neutralize the elite receiving tight ends of the NFL.
Fitzpatrick also is a threat to take the ball away downfield. He tracks the pass extremely well and shows nice ball skills. For a defensive back, Fitzpatrick has excellent hands. He is a real threat to create interceptions and make a game-changing play for his defense. With his instincts and skill set, Fitzpatrick is able to be the deep free safety center fielder who locks down the deep part of the field. It is hard to find single-high safeties, but Fitzpatrick has that ability. He also is a dangerous blitzer.
In the ground game, Fitzpatrick can drive downhill and tackle in the box. He is very adept at making open-field tackles and preventing offenses from breaking big plays. He flies around the field and is always around the ball. I'm not sure how fast Fitzpatrick will time before the 2018 NFL Draft. He may not produce an electric 40 time, but he plays fast and is a defender who covers a lot of ground.
Fitzpatrick also is a willing run defender as he will come downhill into the box to make tackles. He doesn't hesitate to get physical in the secondary and dish out some hard hits. For the NFL, it might help him to gain 5-10 pounds of muscle to help tackle pro backs and receivers.
Here is how one scout summarized Fitzpatrick, "He's a prototype free safety [for] this day and age, can drop over slot and play man, pro off hash, or roam as center fielder. Good size, speed, athletic ability, high football IQ, play-maker."
For the NFL, I think Fitzpatrick has Pro Bowl potential as a versatile safety who can do a lot things and erase mismatches. I polled sources from around the league, and the consensus had Fitzpatrick as one of the elite six prospects for the 2018 NFL Draft.
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
At pick 9, San Francisco selects:
Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
6’5”, 250, fast and instinctive. A true sideline to sideline LB. Depending on what punishment Foster gets, they can use Edmunds to replace him or pair with him. Would love to see them on the field together.
CB is the teams main need, but I think they will address that position in free agency and later in draft. In a division that has David Johnson and Todd Gurley, They need someone who can cover RBs. Will also help with the pass rush.
Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
6’5”, 250, fast and instinctive. A true sideline to sideline LB. Depending on what punishment Foster gets, they can use Edmunds to replace him or pair with him. Would love to see them on the field together.
CB is the teams main need, but I think they will address that position in free agency and later in draft. In a division that has David Johnson and Todd Gurley, They need someone who can cover RBs. Will also help with the pass rush.
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Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
That's the guy the Steelers need but won't get at 28.
Steelers trade a 2019 5th rounder and Xavier Grimble to San Francisco for Edmunds.
And with that, pick 10 is on the clock.
-OZ-
Footballguy
If Foster isn't completely screwing himself, that's a nice group they've got going.
I am somewhat surprised they didn't take a WR.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
So Miami picks at 11.
Could I get a list of who has been selected so I don't pick someone already drafted?
I don't like Tannehill so if there were a good QB available I would consider it. I see Gase being fired after this season and Tannehill being his QB in 2018. They won't draft a new QB until Gase is fired, making Tannehill good was kind of the agreement when he took the job.
Could I get a list of who has been selected so I don't pick someone already drafted?
I don't like Tannehill so if there were a good QB available I would consider it. I see Gase being fired after this season and Tannehill being his QB in 2018. They won't draft a new QB until Gase is fired, making Tannehill good was kind of the agreement when he took the job.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Steal for the Niners. Grimble gives Jimmy G the red zone target he needs and they get their 5th rounder back.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Agreed. And the Steelers get a guy who can at least provide some of Shazier's lateral speed. Win-win. Book it, Oz!
-OZ-
Footballguy
Man editing with the @s is a complete pain in the #### on the phone.
Thanks @Nucular George for making it easier.
Thanks @Nucular George for making it easier.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
My bad as I missed George's post while I was bagging on Andy's team loyalty.
@krsone21 for the Raiders is on the clock.
krsone21
Footballguy
With pick 1.10 in the 2018 NFL Draft the Raiders select Denzel Ward DB Ohio State.
@Biabreakable is on the clock with MIami's pick.
The Raiders do have some needs on the offense side of the ball, OT, WR, RB but depending what happens with Lynch and Crabtree RB and WR are positions they could be addressed via free agency or later in the draft when it comes to RB with it being so deep.
The main needs are on defense specifically CB, LB, DT, S, DE.
I believe if the Raiders can get the right deal they will bring Bowman back so that will help with the LB position some but they could use an upgrade here as well if the Raiders move on from Irvin. They could possibly address this during free agency if not there are some LB's I like later in the draft.
Since Reggie has taken over as the GM he has avoided taking LB high in the draft. He believes he can find gems later in the draft which hasn't worked out so far IMO but with Gruden and Guenther there that could change.
For me though the CB is probably going to be the biggest need for the Raiders. They already released Amerson and Sean Smith might not be far behind if he is unwilling to restructure. T.J. Carrie is a unrestricted free agency so by the time free agency starts up the Raiders could be without their three top CB's from last season. Carrie says he wants to remain a Raider but will Reggie be willing to match Carries asking price on the open market? They will hopefully have Conley for the entire season he was injured his entire rookie year pretty much except for 1 game during the season. I believe Conley will be a real good CB in the league but the Raiders still need major help here IMO.
The Raiders need someone who can cover the speedy WR's in the league like T. HIll and B. Cooks of the league and I believe Ward can be that guy. I wouldn't be shocked if Ward runs in the 4.3's at the combine.
With Conley, Ward, and with Carrie or a veteran free agent signing with the Raiders it should help to improve the CB group on the team.
@Biabreakable is on the clock with MIami's pick.
The Raiders do have some needs on the offense side of the ball, OT, WR, RB but depending what happens with Lynch and Crabtree RB and WR are positions they could be addressed via free agency or later in the draft when it comes to RB with it being so deep.
The main needs are on defense specifically CB, LB, DT, S, DE.
I believe if the Raiders can get the right deal they will bring Bowman back so that will help with the LB position some but they could use an upgrade here as well if the Raiders move on from Irvin. They could possibly address this during free agency if not there are some LB's I like later in the draft.
Since Reggie has taken over as the GM he has avoided taking LB high in the draft. He believes he can find gems later in the draft which hasn't worked out so far IMO but with Gruden and Guenther there that could change.
For me though the CB is probably going to be the biggest need for the Raiders. They already released Amerson and Sean Smith might not be far behind if he is unwilling to restructure. T.J. Carrie is a unrestricted free agency so by the time free agency starts up the Raiders could be without their three top CB's from last season. Carrie says he wants to remain a Raider but will Reggie be willing to match Carries asking price on the open market? They will hopefully have Conley for the entire season he was injured his entire rookie year pretty much except for 1 game during the season. I believe Conley will be a real good CB in the league but the Raiders still need major help here IMO.
The Raiders need someone who can cover the speedy WR's in the league like T. HIll and B. Cooks of the league and I believe Ward can be that guy. I wouldn't be shocked if Ward runs in the 4.3's at the combine.
With Conley, Ward, and with Carrie or a veteran free agent signing with the Raiders it should help to improve the CB group on the team.
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heckmanm
Footballguy
Their receivers will be solid with Garçon coming back and I think they add a vet in free agency. If Foster is suspended, they got nothing at LB. They seem to like Smith but I have my doubts. Love everything I have read on Edmunds. Kid is only 19 too.
Ward was the other guy I was considering along with Edmunds. Thought you might go with Roquan Smith but I like Ward a lot.
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
With pick 1.11 the Miami Dolphins select Joshua Jackson CB Iowa
There are a lot of needs for this team. I strongly considered LB and offensive linemen here as well but I prioritize corner back and the Dolphins need help there after moving on from Maxxwell.
The Bengals are on the clock.
There are a lot of needs for this team. I strongly considered LB and offensive linemen here as well but I prioritize corner back and the Dolphins need help there after moving on from Maxxwell.
The Bengals are on the clock.
krsone21
Footballguy
I like what I see from Ward and the Raiders really need someone who can keep up with the smaller/faster WR's in the league like T. Hill and B. Cooks and I think Ward is that guy plus the Raiders could possibly lose their top 3 CB's from last season leaving only Conley who was injured almost the entire season and a couple of scrubs.
Edmunds and Smith were on my short list of players for this pick.
krsone21
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I considered Smith for the Dolphins as well but still prioritize CB. The Dolphins secondary might be decent with Jackson Howard and Jones.
I was also considering offensive tackle although the Dolphins need a guard more. If I went that way then Tunsil might move back to left guard assuming Juwan James is healthy and can play at a similarly good level.
I went back to the defense with the assumption than Tunsil improves and they can address interior offensive line with later picks.
-OZ-
Footballguy
We don't have a Bengal.
@Snorkelson, want to grab the bungles?
Figure they're looking OL, but Roquan Smith could be interesting
ETA - I'm tempted to force a trade here, Cardinals trading up to 12, then draft Josh Allen.
@Snorkelson, want to grab the bungles?
Figure they're looking OL, but Roquan Smith could be interesting
ETA - I'm tempted to force a trade here, Cardinals trading up to 12, then draft Josh Allen.
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Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
Wow. I came on here just to see what a certain notification was about and this evil grin guy is still acting like a 12 year old.... hahaha. You think he’ll do this the whole thread? For your guys sake, I hope he grows tired of being so annoying.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Usually EG is a good dude. Probably just trying to bump this thread and make jokes. Guess RnR bored him?
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Yeah I considered Allen for the Dolphins, but they will stick with Tannehill another season so didn't go there. I expect them to turn things over in 2019 instead.
Maybe the Bengals should draft Allen as well. Not sure what Daltons contract looks like but he could be the bridge for the 2018 season.
According to this Dalton is only $16 million which isn't bad compared to the contract that are being talked about recently for QBs. They can trade or release Dalton as well with only $2.4 dead cap in 2018. Still under contract that doesn't go up much for 2 more seasons if Allen could win the starting job and they wanted to keep Dalton.
No idea what the team thinks of Dalton at this point though. The Bengals do like to pick on the offensive side of the ball with their 1st rounders, but have needs on offensive line, linebacker, safety to consider, so if they are confident enough in Dalton trading down would make sense too I guess. A top offensive tackle seems like it would be a good idea here.
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Snorkelson
Footballguy
I’m on Cincy- pick upcoming.
Nucular George
Footballguy
Nucular George
Footballguy
1 1.01 JetMaxx CLE Bradley Chubb, DE, North Carolina State
2 1.02 BlueDredSo BUF (from NYG) Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
3 1.03 Ben & Jerry's IND Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
4 1.04 JetMaxx CLE (from HOU) Sam Darnold, QB, USC
5 1.05 Nucular George DEN Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
6 1.06 Dr. Octopus NYJ Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
7 1.07 Grahamburn TB Vita Vea, NT, Washington
8 1.08 OZ CHI Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama
9 1.09 efactor SF Tremaine Edmunds, DE, Virginia Tech
10 1.10 krsone21 OAK Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State
11 1.11 Biabreakable MIA Joshua Jackson, CB, Iowa
12 1.12 Snorkelson CIN
13 1.13 _____ WAS
14 1.14 _____ GB
15 1.15 _____ AZ
16 1.16 _____ BAL
17 1.17 Ben & Jerry's LAC
18 1.18 Duckboy SEA
19 1.19 Bankerguy DAL
20 1.20 ilov80s ? DET
21 1.21 Dr. Octopus NYG
22 1.22 Dr. Octopus NYG (from KC, thru BUF)
23 1.23 _____ LAR
24 1.24 pantherclub CAR
25 1.25 OZ TEN
26 1.26 _____ ATL
27 1.27 Nucular George NO
28 1.28 Evilgrin 72 PIT
29 1.29 Mr. Brownstone JAX
30 1.30 Andy Dufresne MIN
31 1.31 Dr. Octopus ? NE
32 1.32 need2know PHI
HOU = Mr. Brownstone
KC = ???
2 1.02 BlueDredSo BUF (from NYG) Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
3 1.03 Ben & Jerry's IND Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
4 1.04 JetMaxx CLE (from HOU) Sam Darnold, QB, USC
5 1.05 Nucular George DEN Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
6 1.06 Dr. Octopus NYJ Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
7 1.07 Grahamburn TB Vita Vea, NT, Washington
8 1.08 OZ CHI Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama
9 1.09 efactor SF Tremaine Edmunds, DE, Virginia Tech
10 1.10 krsone21 OAK Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State
11 1.11 Biabreakable MIA Joshua Jackson, CB, Iowa
12 1.12 Snorkelson CIN
13 1.13 _____ WAS
14 1.14 _____ GB
15 1.15 _____ AZ
16 1.16 _____ BAL
17 1.17 Ben & Jerry's LAC
18 1.18 Duckboy SEA
19 1.19 Bankerguy DAL
20 1.20 ilov80s ? DET
21 1.21 Dr. Octopus NYG
22 1.22 Dr. Octopus NYG (from KC, thru BUF)
23 1.23 _____ LAR
24 1.24 pantherclub CAR
25 1.25 OZ TEN
26 1.26 _____ ATL
27 1.27 Nucular George NO
28 1.28 Evilgrin 72 PIT
29 1.29 Mr. Brownstone JAX
30 1.30 Andy Dufresne MIN
31 1.31 Dr. Octopus ? NE
32 1.32 need2know PHI
HOU = Mr. Brownstone
KC = ???
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Nucular George
Footballguy
I'll take NOLA too. In honor of a departed friend.
Nucular George
Footballguy
If no one wants AZ, I can do that too. At least the picks would be reasonably spaced out.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Id like to trade out of this spot, Arizona or NYG would be logical suitors with Allen on the board.
Either way Allen will be the pick here. Too talented to pass up with no dead money for dalton next year. So I guess we can slot Allen in here and if whoever get AZ or if @Dr. Octopus wants to move up we can talk.
Either way Allen will be the pick here. Too talented to pass up with no dead money for dalton next year. So I guess we can slot Allen in here and if whoever get AZ or if @Dr. Octopus wants to move up we can talk.
-OZ-
Footballguy
I'll claim Arizona and offer the 1.15 and 3rd (79) for the 12 and 5th (142), that's 1235 from the Bengals, 1245 from the Cardinals.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
Cardinals take Josh Allen, QB Wyoming.
I don't think Allen falls out of the top 10, but if he did the Cardinals would have to jump on the chance to move up.
The unclaimed Redskins are OTC.
-OZ-
Footballguy
sorry!
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
People are able to realize he's just joking around while bumping the thread up so it stays on the front page.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Listen, I'm genuinely sorry if I upset you. I didn't realize that a pre-combine mock draft on a message board was such SERIOUS BUSINESS. I remember now that the Shark Pool is the forum where levity goes to die. That said, I have no intention of suppressing my unique and titillating combination of ribald flair and hard-hitting draft analysis. You can rage against the machine if you choose, but I'd strongly recommend you park those twin SUVs you call buttcheeks on the stool at the end of the bar and watch me work instead.
-OZ-
Footballguy
"We don't call him evil grin for nothing"
"Why do you call him evil grin?"
"No reason"
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Let’s pick some more players in this absolutely meaningless imaginary draft!
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I can pick for the Skins if you guys want...
Grahamburn
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