I'd be curious what the rest of his wrs look like and where these picks might end up before I call this a horrible trade.if he's pickin 10 11 12. He basically traded Gordon who's on the edge and very well could be his wr 4 or 5 and a cpl late picks for the next stud qbs career. Depending on his roster I like itThat's really, really bad. Gordon alone > Andrew Luck in 1 QB setups.
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*** OFFICIAL *** In-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (1 Viewer)
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r0llin_game
Footballguy
12 Team PPR, QRRWWWTKF
Team A gives: Alshon Jeffrey
Team B gives: Le'Veon Bell
Team A is a playoff team in need of RB help.
Team B is missing the playoffs after injuries and a disappointing season after winning the title last season. Has good depth at RB.
Team A gives: Alshon Jeffrey
Team B gives: Le'Veon Bell
Team A is a playoff team in need of RB help.
Team B is missing the playoffs after injuries and a disappointing season after winning the title last season. Has good depth at RB.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
Definitely like Alshon more as well. Actually had offered TRich and a 3rd and got turned down for Le'Veon.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Josh Gordon is a WR1 in PPG this year. It's going to be pretty hard to find a team stacked enough that he's the 4th or 5th option.bmsarvis said:I'd be curious what the rest of his wrs look like and where these picks might end up before I call this a horrible trade.if he's pickin 10 11 12. He basically traded Gordon who's on the edge and very well could be his wr 4 or 5 and a cpl late picks for the next stud qbs career. Depending on his roster I like it
skol asylum
Footballguy
My roster (12 team PPR, TEs get a slight bump with 1.5 pts per 10 yds)Josh Gordon is a WR1 in PPG this year. It's going to be pretty hard to find a team stacked enough that he's the 4th or 5th option.bmsarvis said:I'd be curious what the rest of his wrs look like and where these picks might end up before I call this a horrible trade.if he's pickin 10 11 12. He basically traded Gordon who's on the edge and very well could be his wr 4 or 5 and a cpl late picks for the next stud qbs career. Depending on his roster I like it
QB PManning, ALuck, SBradford, KClemmens
RB APeterson, AFoster, BTate, DJohnson
WR Megatron, AJohnson, DJax, PHarvin, EDecker, MColston, DMoore, DRogers
TE JCameron, VDavis, JGresham, TWright
PK Hauschka, Tucker
DT Bills, Colts
Taxi Squad: Tyler Eifert, Vance McDonald, bunch of spare parts
skol asylum
Footballguy
Bradford was supposed to be my Manning replacement but not quite lived up to expectations so I pursued Luck aggressively. Yes I know I overpaid but have found its good not to have to worry too much about the QB position if possible. I've consistently had one of the top teams in this league and drafting 10-12 as noted doesn't get you much.
Run It Up
Footballguy
Another deal pushed through with Team A:
Team A sent:
Levine Toilolo
Cordarrelle Patterson
Kenbrell Thompkins
Trent Richardson
Team B sent:
Jordan Cameron
Fred Jackson
I really like Cameron but that seems like a pretty steep price.
I may still be unable to detach from TRich completely though and the important thing in any deal is getting the guy you want
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
The trade deadline quickly approaching, just made this deal in a 12 team standard PPR--
Gave:
Trent Richardson
Steven Ridley
David Wilson
Rod Streator
Got:
Jordy Nelson
Decided to cash in some name value for someone who never fails to produce elite numbers.
Gave:
Trent Richardson
Steven Ridley
David Wilson
Rod Streator
Got:
Jordy Nelson
Decided to cash in some name value for someone who never fails to produce elite numbers.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Different league than the trade a couple posts above. This one's a 14 team PPR.
Gave:
Dwayne Bowe
Got:
Robert Woods
Guy getting Bowe is a contender with lots of injures. I was able to pick between Woods, Marlon Brown, and Stills. I went with Woods.
Gave:
Dwayne Bowe
Got:
Robert Woods
Guy getting Bowe is a contender with lots of injures. I was able to pick between Woods, Marlon Brown, and Stills. I went with Woods.
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r0llin_game
Footballguy
12 Team PPR QRRWWTKFF
Gave: Michael Crabtree, 2014 1st (Should be 1.11 or 1.12)
Received: Shane Vereen, 2014 2nd (Guessing 2.08-2.10), 2014 3rd (3.01)
I could afford the loss of Crabs. Core is Russ Wilson, Shady, Charles, Vereen, Demaryius, BMarsh, Alshon, Gordon, Witten
Other team is rebuilding with the 1.01 already locked up.
Gave: Michael Crabtree, 2014 1st (Should be 1.11 or 1.12)
Received: Shane Vereen, 2014 2nd (Guessing 2.08-2.10), 2014 3rd (3.01)
I could afford the loss of Crabs. Core is Russ Wilson, Shady, Charles, Vereen, Demaryius, BMarsh, Alshon, Gordon, Witten
Other team is rebuilding with the 1.01 already locked up.
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thriftyrocker
Footballguy
I'll take the grabbag and piecemeal it.
Still prefer Bowe over bland youth.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Same 14 team PPR league as above, turned around and flipped Woods--
Gave:
Woods
Got:
2014 1st mid-late
2014 4th
Gave:
Woods
Got:
2014 1st mid-late
2014 4th
Andrew74
Footballguy
Guys I could use some advice here. I am a commish in a league and this came across my desk this morning. 12 team, 0.5 PPR, start 1/2/3/1.
The following trade is awaiting your review:
The Brute Squad gave up:
Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB
Holmes, Santonio NYJ WR
Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR
Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from The Brute Squad
Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from The Brute Squad
Year 2014 Round 4 Draft Pick from The Brute Squad
Year 2014 Round 5 Draft Pick from The Brute Squad
The Pat's Camera Crew gave up:
McCoy, LeSean PHI RB
Gordon, Josh CLE WR
Given the league structure the 4th and 5th are mostly worthless (we are actually voting this week to cut the draft to 3 rounds). The guy trading McCoy is a game out of the division lead and 4th in playoff seeding. He's valued McCoy very highly. As an example, just last week he told me that he didn't think my offer of Martin+Pierce+1st (which looks to be 3-6) was enough for McCoy himself. My first thought is he is leaving the league. The guy he is trading with is a good friend of his. Is there something here?
The following trade is awaiting your review:
The Brute Squad gave up:
Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB
Holmes, Santonio NYJ WR
Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR
Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from The Brute Squad
Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from The Brute Squad
Year 2014 Round 4 Draft Pick from The Brute Squad
Year 2014 Round 5 Draft Pick from The Brute Squad
The Pat's Camera Crew gave up:
McCoy, LeSean PHI RB
Gordon, Josh CLE WR
Given the league structure the 4th and 5th are mostly worthless (we are actually voting this week to cut the draft to 3 rounds). The guy trading McCoy is a game out of the division lead and 4th in playoff seeding. He's valued McCoy very highly. As an example, just last week he told me that he didn't think my offer of Martin+Pierce+1st (which looks to be 3-6) was enough for McCoy himself. My first thought is he is leaving the league. The guy he is trading with is a good friend of his. Is there something here?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
If you are worried about him leaving the league, tell him you'll approve this trade if he pays next year's fees now. Although this may be tough since your league doesn't require some one to do so normally - its also going to look like sour grapes on your part because he "should have taken your offer." (it was a better offer, but I would have passed on your offer as well).
Since he's one game out of his division and in 4th place overall it doesn't seem like he'd be looking to make a move just to help his buddy though.
It's obviously a bad trade for his team, as it doesn't help now and he gave away more future production as well.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Andrew74
Footballguy
That was the next step but I wanted to make sure I wasn't off base before remotely going towards a possible veto.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
If he tries to sell it as a legit trade, I'd ask him if he's willing to send next year's league fees before you'll gladly put it through.
It's strange that a team in contention would sabotage himself even if he wasn't coming back though. Maybe its just a ridiculously bad trade, as unlikely as that seems.
I don't think I would trade Gordon for all that let alone McCoy and Gordon.
I would definitely get some reasoning behind this deal as it sets that team back a couple years minimum
FUBAR
Footballguy
I'm as against vetoing trades as anyone, but this one will be very difficult to explain logically with a straight face.
Maclin has zero value if he's leaving. Law firm is closed, and although I think Holmes is an ok WR2/3 going forward, he doesn't come close to Gordon. then of course, there's McCoy...
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Well this part isn't exactly true, and at best it's a highly subjective opinion. Maclin was a first round NFL pick, and has been pretty successful so far in his early career. He has suffered through a bunch of injuries, but has performed well when healthy.
There's plenty of destinations where he can end up and still have value.
I agree the overall trade is practically indefensible though - I'd maybe trade Gordon for all of that (not likely), but adding McCoy make it silly - like I said it doesn't help the guy this season or in the future.
It's very odd though that a team would pull anything shady when he still has a great shot to win the league. If he's truly leaving, one would think he'd sell out to further help him win it all - not give away productive players.
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FUBAR
Footballguy
"if he's leaving" is the key to that sentence. (the guy trading for Maclin, if he leaves the league gets nothing from Maclin unless he flips him)
The Captain
Footballguy
12 Team PPR
Gave: Ball, Goodwin, Eifert
Received: Alfred Morris
Making a run this year and needed a starting RB. No one was selling on the cheap.
Gave: Ball, Goodwin, Eifert
Received: Alfred Morris
Making a run this year and needed a starting RB. No one was selling on the cheap.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I think that is pretty cheap for Morris
Good young pieces but I think I would easily trade them for Morris to make a run
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
I think it is very cheap ... I inquired about Morris from his owner in my league (who is out of the playoff picture) and he wanted my DMartin/Vereen/2nd Round Rookie Pick for him ...not happening
Good trade for you!
EBF
Footballguy
Collusion or one of those guys is brain dead.
I'm betting on collusion. Nobody could be that dumb.
EBF
Footballguy
He's been pretty mediocre. Four healthy years in the league. Yardage total always between 773-964.
Is he worthless? No, but he's maybe a dynasty WR3/WR4. Maybe a top 25-40 guy if you're optimistic. Anything more seems like a stretch.
Pwingles
Footballguy
I am team A.
Had to either stick with underperforming talent and some prospects, or get some difference makers and make a playoff push. Went with the latter. Am winning my division, but not convincingly, have to likely win 2 or 3 of the next 3 to be a sure thing, itll be close.
valhallan
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I generally agree but was reacting to what I thought was a statement saying Maclin has zero value. He has 26 TDs in four seasons, and is one of only 8 WRs in history to have 55 or more catches in each of his first four seasons and the yardage ranges you posted aren't terrible. With that said, he's surely not a difference maker and that trade was horrible.
cstu
Footballguy
I'd also look at what DeSean has done before and after Chip Kelly. IMO there's also a very good chance he goes to Indy to replace Wayne.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Regarding the Maclin talk, he is absolutely NOT worthless. His points-per-game-played is decent. I realize missing games is an issue, but to me points per game played is pretty important, considering if you are able to play an average guy in his absence, the total points for the year would look good. Not great, but good.
I also think he would scoring very well had he been out there this year. Also, no sure thing he leaves. Also no sure thing he comes back from his injury and gets back to where he was.
Regarding that deal with Mccoy and Gordon, I wouldn't even come close to dealing just Gordon for that, let alone adding Mccoy. Pretty prime example of a trade that needs to be reversed in any league, no mattter what.
I also think he would scoring very well had he been out there this year. Also, no sure thing he leaves. Also no sure thing he comes back from his injury and gets back to where he was.
Regarding that deal with Mccoy and Gordon, I wouldn't even come close to dealing just Gordon for that, let alone adding Mccoy. Pretty prime example of a trade that needs to be reversed in any league, no mattter what.
BlackMamba24
Footballguy
10 team PPR start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex (R/W/T),
Gave: K. Rudolph, mid third
Got: Cecil Shorts
I'm rebuilding on the run and did this trade thinking Shorts will have Bridgewater next season and knowing there are some nice TEs in the rookie draft that I like. Still have these picks: 1,1,2,3
TEs: Housler/Ertz/Kelce/Ladarius Green
Cecil Shorts is now my WR4-5
Gave: K. Rudolph, mid third
Got: Cecil Shorts
I'm rebuilding on the run and did this trade thinking Shorts will have Bridgewater next season and knowing there are some nice TEs in the rookie draft that I like. Still have these picks: 1,1,2,3
TEs: Housler/Ertz/Kelce/Ladarius Green
Cecil Shorts is now my WR4-5
deadlyrange0321
Footballguy
12 team PPR 1QB 1RB 1WR 1TE
Team A trades:
Pierre Thomas
Stevie Johnson
2014 2nd Rd Pick (7-10 range)
Team B trades:
Michael Crabtree
Team A trades:
Pierre Thomas
Stevie Johnson
2014 2nd Rd Pick (7-10 range)
Team B trades:
Michael Crabtree
starks2755
Footballguy
These two happened about a week ago. PPR.
Shane Vereen
for
2014 First
2014 Second
Team getting Vereen is a top 3 seed so the picks will be pretty late, team trading away Vereen is in 9-10th.
Aaron Dobson
2014 2nd
for
Vincent Jackson
Martellus Bennett
Both are in the playoff hunt, team getting vjax is a top 2 seed, other should finish the regular season between 4-7th.
Shane Vereen
for
2014 First
2014 Second
Team getting Vereen is a top 3 seed so the picks will be pretty late, team trading away Vereen is in 9-10th.
Aaron Dobson
2014 2nd
for
Vincent Jackson
Martellus Bennett
Both are in the playoff hunt, team getting vjax is a top 2 seed, other should finish the regular season between 4-7th.
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Seems like a lot for Crabtree, not anything that will be missed too terribly though even if Crabs doesn't work out. It could turn out pretty good if Crabtree finds his late 2012 form again
GROMS
Kingdom Fighter
10 team, PPR w/ IDP. 40 man rosters. Start: 1Q, 2R, 2W, 1T, 1K, 1F(R,W or T) 3DL, 3LB, 3DB, 2F
Team A gives:
R. Cooper (WR), P. Harvin (WR), 2014 5th rd rookie pick
Team B gives:
M. Dareus (DL), D. Trevathan (LB)
Another one
Team A gives:
M. Lattimore (RB), M. Wilkerson (DL), D. Levy (LB)
Team C gives:
A. Peterson (RB), T. Austin (WR), 2014 5th rd rookie pick
Team A is 11-0 and doesn't NEED these players but has always wanted AP and just likes to trade in general.
Team B & C are both 6-5 but very much in it and have the next best records after team A
Team A gives:
R. Cooper (WR), P. Harvin (WR), 2014 5th rd rookie pick
Team B gives:
M. Dareus (DL), D. Trevathan (LB)
Another one
Team A gives:
M. Lattimore (RB), M. Wilkerson (DL), D. Levy (LB)
Team C gives:
A. Peterson (RB), T. Austin (WR), 2014 5th rd rookie pick
Team A is 11-0 and doesn't NEED these players but has always wanted AP and just likes to trade in general.
Team B & C are both 6-5 but very much in it and have the next best records after team A
