JustinHawkins
Footballguy
PPR dynasty league
Gave: Wheaton & 2nd in 2014
Got: Roddy White
Gave: Wheaton & 2nd in 2014
Got: Roddy White
Don't really like it, tbh. Need to knock it out of the park with the picks.Off to a bad start this year in a league that I won last year thanks to injuries and underperformance. Pulled the trigger on this:
I'm now part of the Wilson wagon.Gave: TRENT
Received: D. Wilson, two x 2014 1st round picks![]()
Sounds like the Browns front office play fantasy football too! I kid I kidDon't really like it, tbh. Need to knock it out of the park with the picks.Off to a bad start this year in a league that I won last year thanks to injuries and underperformance. Pulled the trigger on this:
I'm now part of the Wilson wagon.Gave: TRENT
Received: D. Wilson, two x 2014 1st round picks![]()
Patterson and Bennett side for me.maxhyde said:PPR dynasty superflex
- Team A gave up Patterson, Cordarrelle MIN WR;Bennett, Martellus CHI TE; $10.00 in blind bidding
Team B gave up Hilton, T.Y. IND WR
Seriously?14 team PPR:
Gave:
Eric Decker
Got:
Michael Crabtree
2014 1st
Decker is a high-end WR2 at worst who will blow up for huge weeks a third of the time. I can see why someone who is trying to compete for a championship would make this deal once it became apparent how long they'd have to look at an (I) next to Crabtree's name.Seriously?Give me the 1st and better WR. Even if he isn't ever the same the potential is winning twice on that deal14 team PPR:
Gave:
Eric Decker
Got:
Michael Crabtree
2014 1st
I get that reasoning but it seems like someone could get a player similar to Decker for a 1st, maybe a little extra and not have to give up Crabtree.Decker is a high-end WR2 at worst who will blow up for huge weeks a third of the time. I can see why someone who is trying to compete for a championship would make this deal once it became apparent how long they'd have to look at an (I) next to Crabtree's name.Seriously?Give me the 1st and better WR. Even if he isn't ever the same the potential is winning twice on that deal14 team PPR:
Gave:
Eric Decker
Got:
Michael Crabtree
2014 1st
This was my thinking.I get that reasoning but it seems like someone could get a player similar to Decker for a 1st, maybe a little extra and not have to give up Crabtree.Decker is a high-end WR2 at worst who will blow up for huge weeks a third of the time. I can see why someone who is trying to compete for a championship would make this deal once it became apparent how long they'd have to look at an (I) next to Crabtree's name.Seriously?Give me the 1st and better WR. Even if he isn't ever the same the potential is winning twice on that deal14 team PPR:
Gave:
Eric Decker
Got:
Michael Crabtree
2014 1st
Yeah, seems like an awful lot for Hilton.Patterson and Bennett side for me.maxhyde said:PPR dynasty superflex
- Team A gave up Patterson, Cordarrelle MIN WR;Bennett, Martellus CHI TE; $10.00 in blind bidding
Team B gave up Hilton, T.Y. IND WR
Like team Bs takeTeam A gave:
McFadden and Nicks
Team B Gave:
Lacy and Colston
Depends on the 1sts, but I love how next year's offensive rookie class is shaping up. Could be a dynasty maker or breaker. I'm still a DW believer long-term, but NYG have to fix that O-Line.EBF said:Don't really like it, tbh. Need to knock it out of the park with the picks.PatsWillWin said:Off to a bad start this year in a league that I won last year thanks to injuries and underperformance. Pulled the trigger on this:
I'm now part of the Wilson wagon.Gave: TRENT
Received: D. Wilson, two x 2014 1st round picks![]()
Agreed. Heck, I prefer Patterson over T.Y. straight up.Patterson and Bennett side for me.maxhyde said:PPR dynasty superflex
- Team A gave up Patterson, Cordarrelle MIN WR;Bennett, Martellus CHI TE; $10.00 in blind bidding
Team B gave up Hilton, T.Y. IND WR
Love this for you.14 team PPR:
Gave:
Eric Decker
Got:
Michael Crabtree
2014 1st
Way to buy low on Wilson.32 team tiered PPR full IDP
Gave up:
Bush, Reggie DET RB
Goodson, Mike NYJ RB
Received:
Wilson, David NYG RB
Good deal for Sproles.Win now PPR team with poor RB depth.
Gave up - Cecil Shorts
Received - Darren Sproles
1-for-2 is always nice.14 team PPR:
Gave:
Eric Decker
Got:
Michael Crabtree
2014 1st
This one is the opposite for me. Maybe it improved your lineup, but in a vacuum I like the Patterson side.PPR Start 2rb/3wr/0flex
Gave: C.Patterson/T.Eifert
Got: E.Lacy
WR: Julio/VJAX/Gordon/S.Holmes/Streater
RB: Lacy/Wilson/L.Miller/Woodhead
TE: Cameron/V.Davis
Now I just need to make a move for 1 more better back
I like the Thomas/Bolden side here.12 team PPR 1/2/3+1 flex
Julius Thomas and Brandon Bolden
FOR
Ryan Matthews, Emmanuel Sanders, 2014 2nd (playoff team)
Owning Richardson, it'd be tough to trade him for this. But part of me really likes it. I still think I prefer Richardson, but it's probably closer than I think.10 team PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1FLEX
Team A Trades:
Matt Forte
Josh Gordon
Team B Trades:
Trent Richardson
I think this is cheap for Trent, especially in a 10 team league. If Gordon wasn't on his 2nd strike, it might be a different story. But I'd take Trent here without much thought.Spin said:Owning Richardson, it'd be tough to trade him for this. But part of me really likes it. I still think I prefer Richardson, but it's probably closer than I think.deadlyrange0321 said:10 team PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1FLEX
Team A Trades:
Matt Forte
Josh Gordon
Team B Trades:
Trent Richardson
Oh I agree, and I may be higher on Gordon then most. But the idea that he might go to Pats/Niners/Lions/etc is intriguing. And even if he doesn't, he has shown he is more than capable of being a WR1 in Cleveland.I think this is cheap for Trent, especially in a 10 team league. If Gordon wasn't on his 2nd strike, it might be a different story. But I'd take Trent here without much thought.Spin said:Owning Richardson, it'd be tough to trade him for this. But part of me really likes it. I still think I prefer Richardson, but it's probably closer than I think.deadlyrange0321 said:10 team PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1FLEX
Team A Trades:
Matt Forte
Josh Gordon
Team B Trades:
Trent Richardson
Yeah, I might be in the minority on this, but Julius is screaming "sell high" to me, and the current absurd depth at TE is really limiting the market for him. In this league I had two other top 9 TEs on my roster, guys like Bennett and Daniels are avaiable for next to nothing, and Jordan Reid, Dwayne Allen, David Ausberry have been on and off the waiver wire all year. I'm not sure what to make of Matthews really, but given the supply / demand discrepancy between RBs and TEs and my depth at TE, I decided to swing for the fences. Time will tell.Spin said:I like the Thomas/Bolden side here.Coeur de Lion said:12 team PPR 1/2/3+1 flex
Julius Thomas and Brandon Bolden
FOR
Ryan Matthews, Emmanuel Sanders, 2014 2nd (playoff team)
If I'm in a win now window, and was counting on Richardson as my RB1 I'd take this for him without hesitating one second. Even if I'm not in the above situation, I'm thinking hard on this offer -- Richardson is by far the most volatile asset in this equation, IMO -- if he craps the bed again this year his value is going to plummet. Obviously I'm no fan of Trent, and I also think that Gordon is absolutely dripping with difference making physical ability.deadlyrange0321 said:10 team PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1FLEX
Team A Trades:
Matt Forte
Josh Gordon
Team B Trades:
Trent Richardson
Gordon could miss a year by failing a drug test - something he has done at least 4 times (or is it 5?). At which point he'll be cut and never counted on to be an NFL WR1 again.If I'm in a win now window, and was counting on Richardson as my RB1 I'd take this for him without hesitating one second. Even if I'm not in the above situation, I'm thinking hard on this offer -- Richardson is by far the most volatile asset in this equation, IMO -- if he craps the bed again this year his value is going to plummet. Obviously I'm no fan of Trent, and I also think that Gordon is absolutely dripping with difference making physical ability.
14 Team League for me, but as a TRich owner I would take this deal.deadlyrange0321 said:10 team PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1FLEX
Team A Trades:
Matt Forte
Josh Gordon
Team B Trades:
Trent Richardson
I can see both sides of this deal, but I cannot disagree more with the bolded comment. Maybe my perception of the market is off, but Lacy >> Patterson, and Lacy >>>> Eifert. Saying it becomes a 2-for-1 implies that Lacy = Patterson = Eifert. Lacy has actually shown NFL talent, his value is up nicely from April/May... Patterson can barely get on the field for a bad offense. TE is suddenly very deep; I like Eifert, I own him in a league, but positional scarcity necessitates that Eifert becomes a top scoring TE to be even close in value.EBF said:This one is the opposite for me. Maybe it improved your lineup, but in a vacuum I like the Patterson side.PPR Start 2rb/3wr/0flex
Gave: C.Patterson/T.Eifert
Got: E.Lacy
WR: Julio/VJAX/Gordon/S.Holmes/Streater
RB: Lacy/Wilson/L.Miller/Woodhead
TE: Cameron/V.Davis
Now I just need to make a move for 1 more better back
I would think Patterson alone should be enough to fetch Lacy. Add in Eifert and it becomes 2-for-1.
That seems to be rolling the dice alright.... Even with the rough start I like Hilton and think he holds good value. I have given up on JStew and his value right now is at an all time low.12 team PPR, start 2RB/3WR/flex.
Traded T.Y. Hilton for Jonathon Stewart.
I am DEEP at WR (Calvin, Dez, Marshall, Amendola, S.Johnson) and have become shallow at RB (D.Martin, L.Miller, R.Mathews). Been trying to trade T.Y. forever, haven't had any real interest. Rolling the dice...
Disagree with a few things here.Gordon could miss a year by failing a drug test - something he has done at least 4 times (or is it 5?). At which point he'll be cut and never counted on to be an NFL WR1 again.
Forte is 28 this year; a torn ACL and he's not a dynasty RB2.
I think Richardson's value is by far the most stable asset of the trio. I know you're not high on him, but the market is, and will be going into next season, even if they need to make a few excuses for him.
If you don't like Richardson, make the deal and trade him for Charles +, or Spiller +, or McCoy, or Green, or Dez, or Calvin, etc. In a 10 team startup, today, Trent is a top 5-7 pick, still. Forte and Gordon are bouth outside of the first 3 rounds. Maybe in the 4-5 range. Value wise, based on my read, I don't think it's close. And that has nothing to do with how I feel about any of the parts, outside of their market value.
If Gordon is suspended again, I think it will be pretty obvious to potential employers that he doesn't care about anything enough to walk away from drugs. I don't see people lining up to depend on him. Perhaps a small contract, but never as the top guy. He'll have a tough path to top 15 production, assuming he can stay in shape and motivated during his suspension - which I wouldn't count on.Disagree with a few things here.Re: Gordon, yeah, two strikes. But he's talented enough that he'll get chance after chance after chance until he can't play anymore. He's talented enough, IMO, to flat out demand 150 targets in virtually any
situation. I don't view guys like him as a asset to be held or moved per the market -- I acquire guys like him with the intention of basically riding them until the end. So I worry less about suspensions etc causing short term fluctuations in value. Treating Brandon Marshall and TO like this has worked out pretty well for me over the years. Truly elite WRs merit very long term thinking IMO.
Re: Trent, obviously we disagree on his talent, and that's fine. But his market value is showing some cracks too at this point -- prior to the season he was close to the consensus most valuable dynasty asset. There are waaaaay more dissenting voices on that now then there were a month ago. IMO if he's outplayed by Bradshaw, stays in RBBC, and doesn't catch a ton of passes this year you're not getting anywhere remotely close to 1.01 startup value for him -- and you might not be able to get generic RB1 value either. I guess we'll see, but IMO there will be no possible excuses left to be made roughly by midseason at the latest.
Agree on Gordon's value being tarnished in the NFL's eyes -- if he tests positive again he's costing himself a fortune in future guaranteed earnings. Disagree that his future contract status will matter a ton on the field. He'll be open because he's a beast, no matter how much he's making or what team he's on. He'll get targets because he'll be open, and he'll do alot with those targets because again, dude's a beast. Obviously I put much less weight on off field nonsense than do most. There are guys guilty of much worse than being a young kid that smokes weed and likes purple drank who are enjoying long productive NFL careers. Last year's Steelers / Ravens promos featured a rapist squaring off against an accessory to murder -- and those guys are both likely to be enshrined in Canton someday...If Gordon is suspended again, I think it will be pretty obvious to potentialDisagree with a few things here.
Re: Gordon, yeah, two strikes. But he's talented enough that he'll get chance after chance after chance until he can't play anymore. He's talented enough, IMO, to flat out demand 150 targets in virtually any
situation. I don't view guys like him as a asset to be held or moved per the market -- I acquire guys like him with the intention of basically riding them until the end. So I worry less about suspensions etc causing short term fluctuations in value. Treating Brandon Marshall and TO like this has worked out pretty well for me over the years. Truly elite WRs merit very long term thinking IMO.
Re: Trent, obviously we disagree on his talent, and that's fine. But his market value is showing some cracks too at this point -- prior to the
season he was close to the consensus most valuable dynasty asset. There are waaaaay more dissenting voices on that now then there were a month ago. IMO if he's outplayed by Bradshaw, stays in RBBC, and doesn't catch a ton of passes this year you're not getting anywhere remotely close to 1.01 startup value for him -- and you might not be able to get generic RB1 value either. I guess we'll see, but IMO there will be no possible excuses
left to be made roughly by midseason at the latest.
employers that he doesn't care about anything enough to walk away from drugs. I don't see people lining up to depend on him. Perhaps a small contract, but never as the top guy. He'll have a tough path to top 15 production, assuming he can stay in shape and motivated during his suspension - which I wouldn't count on.
I'm with you, in that I love his talent. He looks like he's on his way to being a top 5 dynasty WR. But I don't think his value is as secure as you seem to. It took a major hit, in my opinion.
Unless this is very TE heavy - this is way too much for Cameron. I'd have to see him keep this up for the year to consider his value close to that of Spiller. And if I am in the hunt, I'd take AJ over Vereen. If I'm not, I'd need more than just Vereen.20 team PPR Dynasty
J. Cameron, Vereen, G. Tate
for
Andre Johnson + Spiller
Agree, I'd take Spiller/Andre.Unless this is very TE heavy - this is way too much for Cameron.20 team PPR Dynasty
J. Cameron, Vereen, G. Tate
for
Andre Johnson + Spiller