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*** OFFICIAL *** In-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (4 Viewers)

no involved in this trade, though I have a strong opinion.

14 team graded ppr (.75/1.0/1.25) with Devy (18 currently on rosters).

start 2RB/3WR/TE can flex any.

[SIZE=medium]Contender gave up:[/SIZE]

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Bell, Le'Veon PIT RB

Williams, Terrance DAL WR

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Contender

Year 2015 Round 3 Draft Pick from Contender

[SIZE=medium]Rebuilder gave up:[/SIZE]

Smith, Alex KCC QB

Cruz, Victor NYG WR

Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from good team now that just lost JJ
I'm surprised everyone in the league seems to think it was a bad trade. I personally don't see it that way. Cruz is the best player in the deal by a good margin, but Bell has a chance to equal his value by the end of the season. At 21 YO, and in a bell cow role, the sky is the limit for his dynasty value. Alfred Morris, Doug Martin, DeMarco Murray - young RBs can go from potential to current dynasty value in a matter of 2-3 games. I also think T. Williams is the WR2 moving forward for the Cowboys, and that is a nearly ideal situation for him.

Give me Cruz, but I personally don't think it's a bad trade.
I was the one who actually traded Cruz. The first should be later half, even with the guy losing JJ. My roster had 6 or 7 rookies on it already, including Keenan Allen and Tavon Austin, but was lacking quality young RBs,so losing what equates to an early 2nd in any other league didn't seem that big a deal. Still have my own first, which will be at worst #2.

I really don't subscribe to the "best player wins" theory, but in this case it doesn't matter because I happen to think both Bell and Williams could be special.

Thought it was a fair deal. :shrug:
To be honest, I don't really like it. This kind of deal can work out if you pick the right prospects, but I don't personally think the guys you got back are that great. I think you gave up a bankable top 10 dynasty WR for a bunch of 2nd tier prospects. I think Bell and Ball are closer to Eric Shelton/Tatum Bell than LeSean McCoy/Frank Gore, but that's just my opinion and if one of those guys pops it will not be so bad. I think you might look back on this one with some regret in the future. Then again, I'm quite down on LeVeon Bell and pretty lukewarm on Montee Ball. If it was Christine Michael and Bernard Pierce, I would like it more.

 
Another Trent trade that I just made. I'm still a believer.

14 team PPR (1.5 PPR for TE's) Devy league.

Gave:

Cecil Shorts

Golden Tate

Zac Stacy

Benny Cunningham

Isaiah Pead

*Austin Sefarian-Jenkins

Got:

Trent Richardson

Andre Roberts
I'm not anywhere near a believer, and I still do that all day. Nice move.
Glad you commented, I saw your name at the bottom of the page and hoped you would, as I know we're on opposite ends of the Trent debate. I'm almost a little surprised that you still think it was a good move, value-wise. Is it because you think Trent can be flipped for more later?
Basically Shorts + ASJ for Richardson? I like Shorts, but still think it was a good deal for you.

Usually like deals where someone converts a bunch of smaller parts into a top asset.

 
Another Trent trade that I just made. I'm still a believer.

14 team PPR (1.5 PPR for TE's) Devy league.

Gave:

Cecil Shorts

Golden Tate

Zac Stacy

Benny Cunningham

Isaiah Pead

*Austin Sefarian-Jenkins

Got:

Trent Richardson

Andre Roberts
I'm not anywhere near a believer, and I still do that all day. Nice move.
Glad you commented, I saw your name at the bottom of the page and hoped you would, as I know we're on opposite ends of the Trent debate. I'm almost a little surprised that you still think it was a good move, value-wise. Is it because you think Trent can be flipped for more later?
Basically Shorts + ASJ for Richardson? I like Shorts, but still think it was a good deal for you.

Usually like deals where someone converts a bunch of smaller parts into a top asset.
Thanks, that's what I was going for. Hopefully Trent picks his game up and lives up to his potential, or close to it.

 
no involved in this trade, though I have a strong opinion.

14 team graded ppr (.75/1.0/1.25) with Devy (18 currently on rosters).

start 2RB/3WR/TE can flex any.

[SIZE=medium]Contender gave up:[/SIZE]

Ball, Montee DEN RB

Bell, Le'Veon PIT RB

Williams, Terrance DAL WR

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Contender

Year 2015 Round 3 Draft Pick from Contender

[SIZE=medium]Rebuilder gave up:[/SIZE]

Smith, Alex KCC QB

Cruz, Victor NYG WR

Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from good team now that just lost JJ
I'm surprised everyone in the league seems to think it was a bad trade. I personally don't see it that way. Cruz is the best player in the deal by a good margin, but Bell has a chance to equal his value by the end of the season. At 21 YO, and in a bell cow role, the sky is the limit for his dynasty value. Alfred Morris, Doug Martin, DeMarco Murray - young RBs can go from potential to current dynasty value in a matter of 2-3 games. I also think T. Williams is the WR2 moving forward for the Cowboys, and that is a nearly ideal situation for him.

Give me Cruz, but I personally don't think it's a bad trade.
I was the one who actually traded Cruz. The first should be later half, even with the guy losing JJ. My roster had 6 or 7 rookies on it already, including Keenan Allen and Tavon Austin, but was lacking quality young RBs,so losing what equates to an early 2nd in any other league didn't seem that big a deal. Still have my own first, which will be at worst #2.

I really don't subscribe to the "best player wins" theory, but in this case it doesn't matter because I happen to think both Bell and Williams could be special.

Thought it was a fair deal. :shrug:
To be honest, I don't really like it. This kind of deal can work out if you pick the right prospects, but I don't personally think the guys you got back are that great. I think you gave up a bankable top 10 dynasty WR for a bunch of 2nd tier prospects. I think Bell and Ball are closer to Eric Shelton/Tatum Bell than LeSean McCoy/Frank Gore, but that's just my opinion and if one of those guys pops it will not be so bad. I think you might look back on this one with some regret in the future. Then again, I'm quite down on LeVeon Bell and pretty lukewarm on Montee Ball. If it was Christine Michael and Bernard Pierce, I would like it more.
Understood. Definately some risk here. Ball was a bonus to me....it doesn't bode well that he is getting so little work in Denver, but his coach has a history of distrusting rookies and Moreno is legit. Williams is a differant story...really like this kid and the fact that he's already producing despite coming in RAW. This team was seriously hurting at RB...Michael was the best RB prospect on the squad, others were Bilal Powell, Daryl Richardson, and Bryce Brown.

There's a recent push to aquire top WRs in fantasy, but despite this RB1s are still tougher to find. I might be wrong, but I think Bell will be an RB1. Besides, I hate the Giants ;)

 
i understand that some owners prefer to build around RBs, but i think their half life is not conducive to constructing a team that can compete for more than one or two years. i would rather build around:

1) a true QB1 difference makers...and not rely on a QBBC (same with TE)

2) three strong WRs where my WR3 is stonger than most teams WR1

3) draft picks for flexibility when other teams become sellers

Back to the topic

12 team graded ppr (0.5/1.0/1.5), start 2RB/2/WR/TE can flex any

Not involved

Lacy

for

Cruz

Rashad Jennings

3rd Round Rookie

 
12 Team PPR

Team A got:

Jamaal Charles

Philip Rivers

Team B got:

Gio Bernard

Mike Wallace

Sam Bradford

Travis Kelce
I like Gio, but oooooooof.
Are you sure you like him?
Gio, Wallace, Kelce and an upgrade from Rivers to Bradford for Charles? Nothing here not to like if you think much of Gio at all.
Upgrade from Rivers to Bradford? I don't think so.
Bradford is unrosterable garbage in start one QB leagues. With the current absurd depth at TE, Kelce = meh. Wallace = more meh, particularly in PPR. Charles is a guy who will win you titles for the next few years, which is pretty much what you're hoping Gio becomes. He has looked great, certainly, but the step from where he is currently to true stud RB1 is a big one. With the top end of the value over baseline scale worth so much more than the middle, if Gio gets stuck in the borderline RB1/RB2 range this is a clear win for the guy getting Charles.

 
12 Team PPR

Team A got:

Jamaal Charles

Philip Rivers

Team B got:

Gio Bernard

Mike Wallace

Sam Bradford

Travis Kelce
I like Gio, but oooooooof.
Are you sure you like him?
Gio, Wallace, Kelce and an upgrade from Rivers to Bradford for Charles? Nothing here not to like if you think much of Gio at all.
Upgrade from Rivers to Bradford? I don't think so.
Bradford is unrosterable garbage in start one QB leagues. With the current absurd depth at TE, Kelce = meh. Wallace = more meh, particularly in PPR. Charles is a guy who will win you titles for the next few years, which is pretty much what you're hoping Gio becomes. He has looked great, certainly, but the step from where he is currently to true stud RB1 is a big one. With the top end of the value over baseline scale worth so much more than the middle, if Gio gets stuck in the borderline RB1/RB2 range this is a clear win for the guy getting Charles.
QB10 in total points. QB12 in avg points. Unrosterable garbage? Interesting. Not to mention he's only 25, finally has weapons, and may be delivering on the promise that made him what most considered a Top 5 dynasty QB just a couple short years ago.

Bradford clearly isn't the meat and potatoes of this trade, though. It's essentially Gio/Wallace for Charles. And upside throw-ins with Kelce and Bradford.

 
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i understand that some owners prefer to build around RBs, but i think their half life is not conducive to constructing a team that can compete for more than one or two years. i would rather build around:

1) a true QB1 difference makers...and not rely on a QBBC (same with TE)

2) three strong WRs where my WR3 is stonger than most teams WR1

3) draft picks for flexibility when other teams become sellers

Back to the topic

12 team graded ppr (0.5/1.0/1.5), start 2RB/2/WR/TE can flex any

Not involved

Lacy

for

Cruz

Rashad Jennings

3rd Round Rookie
NOt sure you actually said anything here. The answer is to build around studs. If you can get three WR studs...great. If you can get a stud at WR, RB, and QB, great.

However you go though, you still have to fill out a full lineup card, and the sad truth is that it remains much easier to find viable and reliable low end WR2s and WR3s than it is to find a reliable RB2, and a true RB1 makes a huge difference.

 
2QB league I just traded away Geno, David Wilson, and Andre Brown and got back Big Ben, Lacy, and Franklin.
Need more details to really evaluate, but off hand i take geno easily.
I start Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers. I am also in Packer country so I know Lacy will fetch a prize. I like the Packers running backs quite a bit more than New York's. I realize I lost a lot at QB but that won't impact me this season and I have two first rounders next season to fill that spot (including the current worst team in the league's first rounder).
I see the logic if you don't think Wilson turns it around.

 
Something I've been thinking a lot about lately, and would like to revisit. In the last couple of years, top fantasy players have ditched the stud RB theory and embraced a stud WR approach. The basic reasoning seems to be that stud WRs are more stable, and that if you can get 3 or 4 stud WRs, your team will remain powerful for a longer period of time.

I'm just not completely buying it (although I don't buy the stud RB approach either). First of all, WR's turn over and get hurt also. At any given time, there are only 5 or so that reliably put up WR1 numbers year in and year out (as in top 12). The advantage is that unlike RB's, their down years are often still lower end WR2 or 3 numbers. BUt here's the problem: lower end WR2 or WR3 numbers are generally easy to replace/find. In shallower leagues, you can often find a plug and play WR3/4 type on waivers. So while the approach can work, it really only works if you grab at least two top 5 guys...guys that really will put up top 10 numbers EVERY year (Calvin, Julio), AND grab at least one or two more that will put up top 15 numbers some years (Colston, D. Jackson, Cruz) but rarely fall out of the top 20-25.

Meanwhile, starting three studly WRs can be easily wasted if youre stuck starting the Rashad Jenning's of the NFL one week, and Bryce Brown the next. It's true that stud RBs don't last as long as WRs, but you still need them in start 2 leagues, and their relative scarcity makes them MUCH more difficult to replace. I can almost always replace a hurt WR2 in my dynasty leagues, finding a RB I feel good about sticking in my lineup after a starter gets hurt can be hell. Heck, in many leagues simply finding a quality #2 to use any given week can be tough. People simply don't trade them away, because there really aren't enough to go around. While so many have correctly identified that WRs have equivalent value in a lineup and are more stable long term, I wonder if the current line of thinking has incorrectly minimized or overlooked the scarcity issue. It's interesting how we look at trades at FBGs and tend to love the deals for guys picking up high quality WRs for mediocre RBs, yet when Ilook at rosters and look at leagues as a whole I tend to find that young RB2s with upside are far more difficult to attain than decent WR2s.

Is anyone trading Lacy, Moreno, or Bernard (three upside RBs, two outside the top ten, young and unproven, and the other older with a spotty history but currently inside the top 10) for anything less than an equivalent RB or a WR1+?

I'm starting to think the better approach might be "no real holes + 2 studs (any position)"

 
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Is anyone trading Lacy, Moreno, or Bernard (three upside RBs, two outside the top ten, young and unproven, and the other older with a spotty history but currently inside the top 10) for anything less than an equivalent RB or a WR1+?
He can be had for very little in my leagues.

 
Is anyone trading Lacy, Moreno, or Bernard (three upside RBs, two outside the top ten, young and unproven, and the other older with a spotty history but currently inside the top 10) for anything less than an equivalent RB or a WR1+?
He can be had for very little in my leagues.
I've tried to trade for Moreno in almost every league, typically sending out offers such as TY HIlton or Kendall WRight (young WR2s with terrific upside)...every one is turned down.

 
12 Team PPR

Team A got:

Jamaal Charles

Philip Rivers

Team B got:

Gio Bernard

Mike Wallace

Sam Bradford

Travis Kelce
I like Gio, but oooooooof.
Are you sure you like him?
Gio, Wallace, Kelce and an upgrade from Rivers to Bradford for Charles? Nothing here not to like if you think much of Gio at all.
Upgrade from Rivers to Bradford? I don't think so.
Bradford is unrosterable garbage in start one QB leagues. With the current absurd depth at TE, Kelce = meh. Wallace = more meh, particularly in PPR. Charles is a guy who will win you titles for the next few years, which is pretty much what you're hoping Gio becomes. He has looked great, certainly, but the step from where he is currently to true stud RB1 is a big one. With the top end of the value over baseline scale worth so much more than the middle, if Gio gets stuck in the borderline RB1/RB2 range this is a clear win for the guy getting Charles.
QB10 in total points. QB12 in avg points. Unrosterable garbage? Interesting. Not to mention he's only 25, finally has weapons, and may be delivering on the promise that made him what most considered a Top 5 dynasty QB just a couple short years ago.

Bradford clearly isn't the meat and potatoes of this trade, though. It's essentially Gio/Wallace for Charles. And upside throw-ins with Kelce and Bradford.
QB is really deep right now. Bradford is a volume guy -- by every advanced metric he'is a turd. As long as the Rams suck and can't run, he'll put very low end QB1 numbers, maybe. His upside is Eli Manning (and that's being wildly generous) -- so just enough to give you a disadvantage every single week in 10 - 12 team leagues. He's garbage.

 
Something I've been thinking a lot about lately, and would like to revisit. In the last couple of years, top fantasy players have ditched the stud RB theory and embraced a stud WR approach. The basic reasoning seems to be that stud WRs are more stable, and that if you can get 3 or 4 stud WRs, your team will remain powerful for a longer period of time.

I'm just not completely buying it (although I don't buy the stud RB approach either). First of all, WR's turn over and get hurt also. At any given time, there are only 5 or so that reliably put up WR1 numbers year in and year out (as in top 12). The advantage is that unlike RB's, their down years are often still lower end WR2 or 3 numbers. BUt here's the problem: lower end WR2 or WR3 numbers are generally easy to replace/find. In shallower leagues, you can often find a plug and play WR3/4 type on waivers. So while the approach can work, it really only works if you grab at least two top 5 guys...guys that really will put up top 10 numbers EVERY year (Calvin, Julio), AND grab at least one or two more that will put up top 15 numbers some years (Colston, D. Jackson, Cruz) but rarely fall out of the top 20-25.

Meanwhile, starting three studly WRs can be easily wasted if youre stuck starting the Rashad Jenning's of the NFL one week, and Bryce Brown the next. It's true that stud RBs don't last as long as WRs, but you still need them in start 2 leagues, and their relative scarcity makes them MUCH more difficult to replace. I can almost always replace a hurt WR2 in my dynasty leagues, finding a RB I feel good about sticking in my lineup after a starter gets hurt can be hell. Heck, in many leagues simply finding a quality #2 to use any given week can be tough. People simply don't trade them away, because there really aren't enough to go around. While so many have correctly identified that WRs have equivalent value in a lineup and are more stable long term, I wonder if the current line of thinking has incorrectly minimized or overlooked the scarcity issue. It's interesting how we look at trades at FBGs and tend to love the deals for guys picking up high quality WRs for mediocre RBs, yet when Ilook at rosters and look at leagues as a whole I tend to find that young RB2s with upside are far more difficult to attain than decent WR2s.

Is anyone trading Lacy, Moreno, or Bernard (three upside RBs, two outside the top ten, young and unproven, and the other older with a spotty history but currently inside the top 10) for anything less than an equivalent RB or a WR1+?

I'm starting to think the better approach might be "no real holes + 2 studs (any position)"
Thhought I was posting this in the other dynasty thread....moving it there.

 
Don't do the devy thing so can't comment on that guy; if he's seen as a sure thing beast I might change my mind.
>= Eifert, IMO.
:no:

Jenkins is a good player, but doesn't seem to have much speed or explosiveness. He could be more Rudolph/Gresham than FF difference-maker.
I have to disagree with you. He's huge (and long) and plenty fluid/fast/explosive for his size. He's a mismatch from day 1, IMO.

 
Fairly big trade in another league:

Team A (rebuild) gave up: Torrey Smith, Flacco, Celek

Team B (contender) gave up: Keenan Allen, EJ Manuel, TY Hilton

It's a 12 team superflex type league (can use a QB in one flex spot)

 
14 Team Standard Scoring - 6pts all TD

Gave: KAllen and Low 1st Round 2014 (have 2 more higher picks)

Got: Tannehill and CShorts

This move puts me in a spot to trade Tannehill, Miller and my other 2 #1 for Martin and something or just Tanehill and nab Decker. Other owner has no backup to Manning and is a dolphin fan.

Bye week 8 would have killed me as a 4-1 team right now with TRich, Wayne, Mathews, Hopkins, Allen, and VBrown on a bye, so grabbing Shorts helps me fill a hole or two.

 
renesauz said:
Concept Coop said:
renesauz said:
Is anyone trading Lacy, Moreno, or Bernard (three upside RBs, two outside the top ten, young and unproven, and the other older with a spotty history but currently inside the top 10) for anything less than an equivalent RB or a WR1+?
He can be had for very little in my leagues.
I've tried to trade for Moreno in almost every league, typically sending out offers such as TY HIlton or Kendall WRight (young WR2s with terrific upside)...every one is turned down.
If I owned Moreno, I'd jump at Hilton and probably take Wright.

 
renesauz said:
Fairly big trade in another league:

Team A (rebuild) gave up: Torrey Smith, Flacco, Celek

Team B (contender) gave up: Keenan Allen, EJ Manuel, TY Hilton

It's a 12 team superflex type league (can use a QB in one flex spot)
Love it for the rebuilder.

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
14 team PPR

Gave:

Randall Cobb

Le'Veon Bell

Got:

Julio Jones

Dwayne Bowe
Any thoughts on this one? I'm not competing this year. I saw my shot at one of dynasty's "untouchables" and took it.

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
14 team PPR

Gave:

Randall Cobb

Le'Veon Bell

Got:

Julio Jones

Dwayne Bowe
Any thoughts on this one? I'm not competing this year. I saw my shot at one of dynasty's "untouchables" and took it.
I'm a big fan of receiving the best player in a deal, so I like it. Julio is one of the handful of guys in the "pretty much whatever it takes to get him" class.

 
12 team PPR, 1QB 1RB 1WR 1TE 3FLEX

Just saw this one completed

Team A trades:

Lamar Miller

Larry Fitzgerald

Team B trades:

Brandon Marshall

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
14 team PPR

Gave:

Randall Cobb

Le'Veon Bell

Got:

Julio Jones

Dwayne Bowe
Any thoughts on this one? I'm not competing this year. I saw my shot at one of dynasty's "untouchables" and took it.
I'm a big fan of receiving the best player in a deal, so I like it. Julio is one of the handful of guys in the "pretty much whatever it takes to get him" class.
Thanks, this was my mindset. I think Bell's first game being at RB1-level fantasy production wise has skewed his value a bit. He's going to produce because of his massive amount of touches and not his talent or even surrounding talent, which to me isn't a smart bet, so getting out there to get into Julio seemed like a good move to me.

 
12 team ppr/IDP

I gave: T. Rich, James Jones, 2nd rd rookie

I get: Megatron

While I'm ecstatic about this trade, it does come at a price. Some will think I stole Megatron. In this league you have to start 3-4 RBs. I'm left top heavy with little to no depth. I still have McCoy, Reggie, and Sproles to start, but if one goes down I only have Ingram, Ivory, and Snelling. Needless to say, RBs are probably the most important position in this league. I am the 2 time defending champion, and I like the move to help pull the 3-peat. I'm still a believer in TRich, but this year will not be his career year obviously. Still holding him in my other dynasty. Looks like I will be looking for a vet RB asap. Have plenty of LB depth and Harvin as bait.

The team who traded him has picked in the top 4 all 7 years the league has been around. This is the first year with a new owner. The previous owner wouldn't trade Megatron no matter what. He only has Forte as a viable RB. Kind of makes sense for him even though I would have given more.

 
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potentially from a Julio owner that is 5-0 trying to win this year:

Team A gives:

Julio Jones

Lamar Miller

Team B gives:

Brandon Marshall

Reggie Bush

2015 1st

Thoughts?

 
Just did an interesting one. 14 team ppr. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 2 FLEX. 5./1/1.5 PPR for RB/WR/TE. A good TE scores like a good WR in this league.

Gave: TE Charles Clay, WR Rueben Randle

Got: TE Tyler Eifert

Actually very impressed with Clay this year and think Randle can be solid, but also a big Eifert fan. Now have him in all of my TE-premium leagues.

 
renesauz said:
Concept Coop said:
renesauz said:
Is anyone trading Lacy, Moreno, or Bernard (three upside RBs, two outside the top ten, young and unproven, and the other older with a spotty history but currently inside the top 10) for anything less than an equivalent RB or a WR1+?
He can be had for very little in my leagues.
I've tried to trade for Moreno in almost every league, typically sending out offers such as TY HIlton or Kendall WRight (young WR2s with terrific upside)...every one is turned down.
If I owned Moreno, I'd jump at Hilton and probably take Wright.
Fwiw, I had an offer of Moreno for a mid-late first. Might have a deal posted in the next day or two.

 
It killed me to do this, but my team is built for now:

12 team non-ppr

Gave: Julio and Brian Quick

Received: Cobb and Denarius Moore

I will regret this for a long time, but if I somehow win this year there will be some consolation

In a different league where I'm also built for this year and was getting no scoring at TE:

12 team ppr

Gave DeAndre Hopkins

Received: Julius Thomas

 
Just did an interesting one. 14 team ppr. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 2 FLEX. 5./1/1.5 PPR for RB/WR/TE. A good TE scores like a good WR in this league.

Gave: TE Charles Clay, WR Rueben Randle

Got: TE Tyler Eifert

Actually very impressed with Clay this year and think Randle can be solid, but also a big Eifert fan. Now have him in all of my TE-premium leagues.
Big fan of this one. After Graham, Gronk, Julius, and Cameron there's no TE I'd rather have going forward than Eifert. He's really the only one with the talent and ceiling to catch those guys some day.

 
12 team ppr, QRRWWTKF

I give: Geno Smith, Daniel Thomas, Tavon Austin, Jared Cook, 2 '14 1st, '14 2nd, '14 3rd (Should be around the .05-.08 range for those rounds respectively)

I receive: Matt Schaub, Darren Sproles, Mike Floyd, Rob Gronkowski

I still have two '14 1st that are currently 1.01/1.02. Trade partner just lost Julio and wanted to blow the ship up. I inherited this roster that had four main pieces that were: Stafford, Martin, Harvin, Jimmy. Only four teams make the playoffs in this league. I'm currently 3-2 somehow, .500 AP record, but still a move towards the future.

Core is:

Stafford, Martin, Sproles, Quizz, Percy, Alshon, Floyd, Vincent Brown, Woods, Jimmy, Gronk.

While I think I finish near the 1.07 area and miss the playoffs still, think this definitely gives me a solid shot to be a contender within a year with what should seemingly be two top four picks for next year.

 
12 team ppr, QRRWWTKF

I give: Geno Smith, Daniel Thomas, Tavon Austin, Jared Cook, 2 '14 1st, '14 2nd, '14 3rd (Should be around the .05-.08 range for those rounds respectively)

I receive: Matt Schaub, Darren Sproles, Mike Floyd, Rob Gronkowski

I still have two '14 1st that are currently 1.01/1.02. Trade partner just lost Julio and wanted to blow the ship up. I inherited this roster that had four main pieces that were: Stafford, Martin, Harvin, Jimmy. Only four teams make the playoffs in this league. I'm currently 3-2 somehow, .500 AP record, but still a move towards the future.

Core is:

Stafford, Martin, Sproles, Quizz, Percy, Alshon, Floyd, Vincent Brown, Woods, Jimmy, Gronk.

While I think I finish near the 1.07 area and miss the playoffs still, think this definitely gives me a solid shot to be a contender within a year with what should seemingly be two top four picks for next year.
This seems like a really bad deal to me. If you're looking to blow up your roster, why do you move good young assets like Floyd and Gronk? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Hell, I wouldn't even consider that entire haul just for Gronk.

 
12 team ppr, QRRWWTKF

I give: Geno Smith, Daniel Thomas, Tavon Austin, Jared Cook, 2 '14 1st, '14 2nd, '14 3rd (Should be around the .05-.08 range for those rounds respectively)

I receive: Matt Schaub, Darren Sproles, Mike Floyd, Rob Gronkowski

I still have two '14 1st that are currently 1.01/1.02. Trade partner just lost Julio and wanted to blow the ship up. I inherited this roster that had four main pieces that were: Stafford, Martin, Harvin, Jimmy. Only four teams make the playoffs in this league. I'm currently 3-2 somehow, .500 AP record, but still a move towards the future.

Core is:

Stafford, Martin, Sproles, Quizz, Percy, Alshon, Floyd, Vincent Brown, Woods, Jimmy, Gronk.

While I think I finish near the 1.07 area and miss the playoffs still, think this definitely gives me a solid shot to be a contender within a year with what should seemingly be two top four picks for next year.
This seems like a really bad deal to me. If you're looking to blow up your roster, why do you move good young assets like Floyd and Gronk? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Hell, I wouldn't even consider that entire haul just for Gronk.
I'm guessing the owner who traded away Gronk, et al, is either inexperienced or mailing it in. Very lopsided trade.

 
14 team PPR

Gave:

Randall Cobb

Le'Veon Bell

Got:

Julio Jones

Dwayne Bowe
Any thoughts on this one? I'm not competing this year. I saw my shot at one of dynasty's "untouchables" and took it.
I'm a big fan of receiving the best player in a deal, so I like it. Julio is one of the handful of guys in the "pretty much whatever it takes to get him" class.
Thanks, this was my mindset. I think Bell's first game being at RB1-level fantasy production wise has skewed his value a bit. He's going to produce because of his massive amount of touches and not his talent or even surrounding talent, which to me isn't a smart bet, so getting out there to get into Julio seemed like a good move to me.
He was a second round draft pick, made by a generally successful franchise so I wouldn't necessarily say if Bell succeed it isn't because he'e a talent. With that said I agree with your logic and if Jones doesn't go down for the season, you'd never get him for that price - plus you can flip Bowe for something.

 
14 team PPR

Gave:

Randall Cobb

Le'Veon Bell

Got:

Julio Jones

Dwayne Bowe
Any thoughts on this one? I'm not competing this year. I saw my shot at one of dynasty's "untouchables" and took it.
I'm a big fan of receiving the best player in a deal, so I like it. Julio is one of the handful of guys in the "pretty much whatever it takes to get him" class.
Thanks, this was my mindset. I think Bell's first game being at RB1-level fantasy production wise has skewed his value a bit. He's going to produce because of his massive amount of touches and not his talent or even surrounding talent, which to me isn't a smart bet, so getting out there to get into Julio seemed like a good move to me.
He was a second round draft pick, made by a generally successful franchise so I wouldn't necessarily say if Bell succeed it isn't because he'e a talent. With that said I agree with your logic and if Jones doesn't go down for the season, you'd never get him for that price - plus you can flip Bowe for something.
People generally consider the Steelers to be a solid FO who draft well, with value falling to them every year...but look where they are now.

 
14 team PPR

Gave:

Randall Cobb

Le'Veon Bell

Got:

Julio Jones

Dwayne Bowe
Any thoughts on this one? I'm not competing this year. I saw my shot at one of dynasty's "untouchables" and took it.
I'm a big fan of receiving the best player in a deal, so I like it. Julio is one of the handful of guys in the "pretty much whatever it takes to get him" class.
Thanks, this was my mindset. I think Bell's first game being at RB1-level fantasy production wise has skewed his value a bit. He's going to produce because of his massive amount of touches and not his talent or even surrounding talent, which to me isn't a smart bet, so getting out there to get into Julio seemed like a good move to me.
He was a second round draft pick, made by a generally successful franchise so I wouldn't necessarily say if Bell succeed it isn't because he'e a talent. With that said I agree with your logic and if Jones doesn't go down for the season, you'd never get him for that price - plus you can flip Bowe for something.
People generally consider the Steelers to be a solid FO who draft well, with value falling to them every year...but look where they are now.
So one bad season, four games in, counters all that has come before it?

 
14 team PPR

Gave:

Randall Cobb

Le'Veon Bell

Got:

Julio Jones

Dwayne Bowe
Any thoughts on this one? I'm not competing this year. I saw my shot at one of dynasty's "untouchables" and took it.
I'm a big fan of receiving the best player in a deal, so I like it. Julio is one of the handful of guys in the "pretty much whatever it takes to get him" class.
Thanks, this was my mindset. I think Bell's first game being at RB1-level fantasy production wise has skewed his value a bit. He's going to produce because of his massive amount of touches and not his talent or even surrounding talent, which to me isn't a smart bet, so getting out there to get into Julio seemed like a good move to me.
He was a second round draft pick, made by a generally successful franchise so I wouldn't necessarily say if Bell succeed it isn't because he'e a talent. With that said I agree with your logic and if Jones doesn't go down for the season, you'd never get him for that price - plus you can flip Bowe for something.
People generally consider the Steelers to be a solid FO who draft well, with value falling to them every year...but look where they are now.
So one bad season, four games in, counters all that has come before it?
Not at all, it's just something to think about. You notice I wasn't overly enthusiastic about the idea. But they have been in a slow decline for a few years, and it's hard not to notice that.

 
Contender gave up: Cam Newton, CJ Spiller, Hakeem Nicks

Rebuilder gave up: Andrew Luck, Calvin Johnson

 
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10 Team PPR, 1QB 1RB 1WR 1TE 3FLEX

Team A trades:

Trent Richardson

Danny Amendola

Team B trades:

Victor Cruz

Maurice Jones-Drew

This was actually like the 3rd in the past 3 or 4 weeks that Richardson has been traded. Team moving Richardson now has Morris/MJD as RBs (will probably only start 1) and now Dez/Cruz/Fitz/Hilton and Cameron/Gronk at TE.

Team B is 1-4 was desperately seeking a RB as MJD/Ridley/LMiller were his RBs. That team unloaded Cruz, but now has DThomas/Amendola/Shorts at WR.

Not sure which side I prefer, but in this format (only needing 1 RB to start), I'd probably lean to the side getting Cruz. (Although one could argue that the upgrade from MJD to Richardson may prove to be the winner a few years from now.)

 

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