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*** OFFICIAL *** In-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (1 Viewer)
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Over the last month, revamped my dynasty team. 1st year league, 12 team, PPR, 1qb, 1 rb, 1 wr, 1 te, (3 flex). Made up of all FBG members. Had 2nd overall pick and went with Trent ... now you now why went in different direction. Drafting with intention on going for championship for 2-3 yrs, then rebuilding again around Trent. Damn Trent ruined those plans.
Original Now
Brees Brees
Romo Romo
Richardson Forte
MJD Jennings
Vereen
B Marshall B Marshall
V Jackson Desean Jackson
D Bowe Percy Harvin
M Austin M Colston
M Jones D Bowe
V Davis V Davis
T Gonzalez D Pitta
M Bennett B Pettigrew
Real happy with my team now ... leaves me a little thin at rb, but only need to start one and can go with the 4 wrs
here is how I got there in trades ...
Original Now
Brees Brees
Romo Romo
Richardson Forte
MJD Jennings
Vereen
B Marshall B Marshall
V Jackson Desean Jackson
D Bowe Percy Harvin
M Austin M Colston
M Jones D Bowe
V Davis V Davis
T Gonzalez D Pitta
M Bennett B Pettigrew
Real happy with my team now ... leaves me a little thin at rb, but only need to start one and can go with the 4 wrs
here is how I got there in trades ...
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Team FF trades
Trent Richardson, Shane Vereen and another teams early 2nd
Team A trades
Matt Forte and Reuben Randle
(couldn't get to the trade offer fast enough to accept this one.)
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Team FF trades
Phillip River and Tony Gonzalez
Team B trades
Brandon Pettigrew and 1st round pick (not theirs and right now 6th pick)
(wanted that 1st round pick in order to deal for a wr .. so this one started the whole process. Team B is a playoff team and needed the upgrade at both qb and te.)
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Team FF trades
Reuben Randle and my own 2nd rounder
Team C trades
Marcus Colston and Dennis Pitta
(I wanted to team up Brees and Colston and had intentions of trading Bennett, so needed went after Pitta as a backup after dealing Gonzo. May have lost out on the potential of Randle, but Pitta was a key for the future with PPR te production.)
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Team FF trades
MJD, Marcellus Bennet and 1st round pick received above
Team D trades
Desean Jackson
(extremely happy to get younger at wr and Desean has turned a new leaf this year, not just in production, but in attitude. still had thoughts to move VJax to get even younger and stronger)
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Team FF trades
Vincent Jackson, Miles Austin, and Marvin Jones
Team E trades
Percy Harvin and Chris Givens
(nice cherry to top off the trades above. wasn't expecting to get two younger wr studs in DJax and PHarvin, and was quite pleased)
Trent Richardson, Shane Vereen and another teams early 2nd
Team A trades
Matt Forte and Reuben Randle
(couldn't get to the trade offer fast enough to accept this one.)
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Team FF trades
Phillip River and Tony Gonzalez
Team B trades
Brandon Pettigrew and 1st round pick (not theirs and right now 6th pick)
(wanted that 1st round pick in order to deal for a wr .. so this one started the whole process. Team B is a playoff team and needed the upgrade at both qb and te.)
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Team FF trades
Reuben Randle and my own 2nd rounder
Team C trades
Marcus Colston and Dennis Pitta
(I wanted to team up Brees and Colston and had intentions of trading Bennett, so needed went after Pitta as a backup after dealing Gonzo. May have lost out on the potential of Randle, but Pitta was a key for the future with PPR te production.)
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Team FF trades
MJD, Marcellus Bennet and 1st round pick received above
Team D trades
Desean Jackson
(extremely happy to get younger at wr and Desean has turned a new leaf this year, not just in production, but in attitude. still had thoughts to move VJax to get even younger and stronger)
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Team FF trades
Vincent Jackson, Miles Austin, and Marvin Jones
Team E trades
Percy Harvin and Chris Givens
(nice cherry to top off the trades above. wasn't expecting to get two younger wr studs in DJax and PHarvin, and was quite pleased)
r0llin_game
Footballguy
The first trade I'd probably rather have the Vereen side but overall seems ok. I might be a lot higher on Vereen but feel like if he can manage to stay healthy, he can easily avg 15 ppg.
The 2nd trade you definitely killed it.
The 3rd trade I hate. Would much rather have Randle/2nd than Colson. Would guess Pitta could be had relatively cheap.
The 4th one I don't like either. Would rather have the early to mid 1st than DeSean by himself.
Last trade I like. Get young with Harvin and get rid of Miles who seems to be a waste of a roster spot at this point.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
12 team PPR league, 6 points per passing or rushing TD
Start 1 QB and up to 4 WR
Traded away Marquise Lee, Eli Manning, and Jeff Cumberland
Traded for Andrew Luck, Mark Ingram, and Jermaine Gresham
I had only Andy Dalton, Eli Manning, and Joe Flacco at QB, but was pretty loaded at WR with AJ Green, Dez Bryant, DeSean Jackson, and Vincent Jackson plus some solid depth.
Start 1 QB and up to 4 WR
Traded away Marquise Lee, Eli Manning, and Jeff Cumberland
Traded for Andrew Luck, Mark Ingram, and Jermaine Gresham
I had only Andy Dalton, Eli Manning, and Joe Flacco at QB, but was pretty loaded at WR with AJ Green, Dez Bryant, DeSean Jackson, and Vincent Jackson plus some solid depth.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Adam Harstad
Moderator
Four of the last five staffers to update their dynasty rankings have Torrey Smith in their top 15 (disclosure: I'm the one who doesn't, as I have him... all the way down at 17th). WRs are more valuable than QBs in leagues that only start 1 QB. I can easily see why someone would give Smith+change for Stafford... but I can just as easily see why someone would give Stafford for Smith+change.
Adam Harstad
Moderator
FUBAR
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Adam Harstad
Moderator
Lattimore's a 4th rounder competing with some pretty talented backs. He might be great, or he might never be the same again. Or he might be the same again, but it might turn out that "as good as he was before the injury" wasn't nearly as good as everyone thought (hence the 4th round draft pick). Lattimore's got a lot of potential, but as they say, potential is just shorthand for "hasn't done anything".
Ben Tate next year is going to be a 26-year old starting RB with a 4.9 career ypc average. Maybe he's not the next Michael Turner. Maybe he's only LaMont Jordan, instead. That's not the end of the world- LaMont Jordan finished 7th (in just 14 games) in Oakland before he fell off the cliff. And who knows, maybe Tate *IS* the next Michael Turner. He's got some pretty good production to his name already. He leads the NFL in yards per carry after contact this year.
If Lattimore were more like a Willis McGahee, who was drafted in the 1st despite his injury, I'd find it easier to get excited for him. As it stands, he was drafted in the 4th. That tells me something about how NFL franchises felt about him, and it's not good.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Adam, I hear what you're saying but even if lattimore was seen equal to McGahee before injury, the times have changed enough that he would drop more anyway. He probably wasn't a top 5 pick pre injury but that has at least as much to do with the value of running backs as talent.
It's a risky move, but I think he has top 10 talent. Tate is more likely a rb2.
Time will tell.
It's a risky move, but I think he has top 10 talent. Tate is more likely a rb2.
Time will tell.
FUBAR
Footballguy
32 team league, salary cap.
Green, A.J. CIN WR
Sanders, Emmanuel PIT WR
Austin, Miles DAL WR
Harvin, Percy SEA WR
Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick (~#39)
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
The cap make it difficult to keep Harvin or Green, Sanders salary is reasonable. Austin is almost dropable. Team trading green is out of the playoffs, other team has a bye the first round and had a top 4 team before getting green.
Green, A.J. CIN WR
Sanders, Emmanuel PIT WR
Austin, Miles DAL WR
Harvin, Percy SEA WR
Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick (~#39)
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
The cap make it difficult to keep Harvin or Green, Sanders salary is reasonable. Austin is almost dropable. Team trading green is out of the playoffs, other team has a bye the first round and had a top 4 team before getting green.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Is it the playoff teams first? If so, I like it. The other seems a classic overpay for a better chance to win this year.
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Andrew74
Footballguy
Great move for team receiving Martin and Crabtree
djmich
Footballguy
Yes, team A is the same playoff bound team in both cases. Won Superbowl last year, had Peterson, Martin, Foster but obviously hit with injuries. I think the Moreno deal was very good for him, the Tate deal....well he better win the Superbowl and even then it just seems like an overpay.
The Bandit
Footballguy
Guess it depends on how you value Torrey, he probably wouldnt crack top 20 on my list. Although once you get past the first 10-15 it gets pretty murky for everyone and probably comes down to personal preferences.
I'm a QB minimalist thru and thru but elite scoring studs regardless of position are more valuable in 10 teamers than fringe starters at any other IMO. Yes there are a ton of QB's available in a 10 teamer, but there are also tons of WR's. Especially in the low end WR2 range when they are only separated out by maybe 1 or 2 PPG's difference and you are likely playing matchups week to week.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
That kind of seems like a deal I made in a league I wanted to revamp my team. I'm 5-6 in the 6th spot of the playoffs currently, somehow 4th in points. Did the trade about 3-4 weeks ago when DMC was going off and got offered Martin/Cobb for DMC/Marshall. Snap accepted. Pretty happy I still have a shot to make the playoffs, even though it won't matter to me if I win or lose this year.
madmatg
Footballguy
16 Team 1 PPR Can Start 1QB, 2-3 RB, 2-3WR, 1TE, 1PK, 1 D/ST. 1 IR slot (3 round rookie/FA draft)
Team A (5-6 record, out of playoff hunt) (other notable players Lacy, J. Gordon, Jeffery, Shorts)
Gives: Reggie Bush, Knowshon Moreno, Jermaine Kearse, 3rd round pick
Team B (5-5-1 record, trying to push in to playoffs) (other notable players AP, S. Smith, Colston)
Gives: Justin Blackmon, Ben Tate, Arian Foster, 2nd round pick
Team A (5-6 record, out of playoff hunt) (other notable players Lacy, J. Gordon, Jeffery, Shorts)
Gives: Reggie Bush, Knowshon Moreno, Jermaine Kearse, 3rd round pick
Team B (5-5-1 record, trying to push in to playoffs) (other notable players AP, S. Smith, Colston)
Gives: Justin Blackmon, Ben Tate, Arian Foster, 2nd round pick
cstu
Footballguy
madmatg
Footballguy
Tau837
Footballguy
The Bandit said:Guess it depends on how you value Torrey, he probably wouldnt crack top 20 on my list. Although once you get past the first 10-15 it gets pretty murky for everyone and probably comes down to personal preferences.Adam Harstad said:
I'm a QB minimalist thru and thru but elite scoring studs regardless of position are more valuable in 10 teamers than fringe starters at any other IMO. Yes there are a ton of QB's available in a 10 teamer, but there are also tons of WR's. Especially in the low end WR2 range when they are only separated out by maybe 1 or 2 PPG's difference and you are likely playing matchups week to week.
I suppose I must be lower on Torrey Smith than most others, and that's why the trade seemed lopsided to me. And I'm also probably biased since my team is the current #2 seed and the current #1 seed added Stafford to shore up its only weakness.
Adam Harstad
Moderator
I think Knowshon is worth more than a very late 1st in dynasty, but I definitely empathize with the plight of the Knowshon Moreno owners who are rebuilding and stuck trying to get fair value for him. I spent half the season sending out offers and starting discussions before I was finally able to get what I believed was mid-1st round value for him. With time running out on the season, the pressure to settle for less only mounts.djmich said:
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
12 team PPR:
Gave--
DeMarco Murray
Got--
Andre Johnson
Gave--
DeMarco Murray
Got--
Andre Johnson
Adam Harstad
Moderator
Don't think it was that bad of a trade. Moreno and Tate are pretty much a wash (both are going to be dependent on where they land in free agency- I'd prefer Tate long term, but obviously Moreno is much better in the short term), and I'd prefer Bush to Foster in PPR by a decent margin (RB11 vs. RB17 in my last rankings update). That means team B is giving up Blackmon and a 2nd for a huge increase in production for the rest of the season (plus the upgrade from Foster to Bush long-term). I think it's ill-advised for a 5-5-1 team to be making too many "win now" moves out of desperation, but if you're going to be making them, that's a pretty good one to make, imo.
Then again, I'm way down on Blackmon in dynasty (WR35, currently). If you still have him ranked in the top 20, that trade looks a lot different.
packer23fan
Footballguy
my 4th round rookie pick for Gonzo. Push for another title
FUBAR
Footballguy
Adam Harstad
Moderator
Sure. I doubt Ben Tate's short-term outlook was the reason for the trade. As always, it's going to hinge on what happens in Free Agency.
Bamac
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
I'll take it as a builder although I'm not as sure about it as you seem to be. Like it for the contender too.
Had team officially get eliminated from playoffs this week so made two moves today with two different owners.
12 team league, FFPC scoring and lineup,but not an FFPC league.
Gave Coby Fleener and got Kyle Rudolph.
Than the big one:
Gave Demaryius Thomas, Chris Johnson and Carson Palmer for Julio Jones, Ben Tate and 2014#1 which figures to be very late.
12 team league, FFPC scoring and lineup,but not an FFPC league.
Gave Coby Fleener and got Kyle Rudolph.
Than the big one:
Gave Demaryius Thomas, Chris Johnson and Carson Palmer for Julio Jones, Ben Tate and 2014#1 which figures to be very late.
14 Team PPR QRRWWWTF. Wasnt involved, but team A is a massive bronco fan and has been starting Jared Cook all year at TE. Team B doesnt have any real needs but took the best player in the deal longterm. Both teams are still contending
Team A - Knowshon Moreno, Montee Ball, Jordan Reed, Aaron Dobson, early 2014 2nd
Team B - LeSean McCoy, Chris Polk, Kenny Stills, Delanie Walker, 2014 4th
Team A - Knowshon Moreno, Montee Ball, Jordan Reed, Aaron Dobson, early 2014 2nd
Team B - LeSean McCoy, Chris Polk, Kenny Stills, Delanie Walker, 2014 4th
The Captain
Footballguy
12 Team PPR
Team A gave
Lamar Miller, Danny Amendola, Julius Thomas
Team B gave:
Jimmy Graham, Santonio Holmes, Andre Holmes
Team A gave
Lamar Miller, Danny Amendola, Julius Thomas
Team B gave:
Jimmy Graham, Santonio Holmes, Andre Holmes
cstu
Footballguy
EBF
Footballguy
Graham might be the best player in FF right now. If you trade him, you need to get a lot more than that.
Adam Harstad
Moderator
If you're going to break a single stud into multiple pieces, you could certainly do a lot worse. Of course, I'm generally not a fan of breaking a single stud into multiple pieces, so give me the McCoy + spare change side.whoDATT said:
Edit: In terms of the recent mocks I'm seeing, that's like trading a top 3-5 pick (McCoy), a 9th rounder (Stills), and pocket lint for a late 3rd (Reed), a trio of 6th rounders (Ball, Moreno, Dobson), and the future 2nd as a kicker (typically I figure future 2nd rounders have value somewhere in the 10th-13th round range of a startup). Again, not the worst trade. Using a couple of pick value calculators, they're suggesting both sides are within 10% either way, but they lean towards the pieces and parts side over the McCoy side. I could see going either way depending on what the rest of my team looked like, but in a vacuum, I feel like I'd probably rather have McCoy locking down one spot and then worry about filling in all the rest of the holes.
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FUBAR
Footballguy
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Adam Harstad
Moderator
I don't think Gordon is a top-10 WR (production on the field warrants it, but you have to price in the risk), but I think that's way too little to be getting in return for him.
Adam Harstad
Moderator
I can understand why someone would make that trade. They probably just believe that Julius is 90% of Graham, so they might as well get two other quality pieces to make that downgrade.
Just because I can understand it doesn't mean I think it's right.
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
Win this week and I get a 1st Round Bye ... I think its good move not only rest of this year but for future as well
Gave: Decker/Wayne/2014 2nd Round Pick (late #11-14)
Got: Cruz
Thoughts?
Gave: Decker/Wayne/2014 2nd Round Pick (late #11-14)
Got: Cruz
Thoughts?
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
14 team PPR. Devy league. Only need to start 1 RB, can start up to 4 WR's.
Probably overpaid, but don't care.
Gave:
Doug Martin
Michael Floyd
Late 2014 1st (devy league, devalued)
Got:
Calvin Johnson
Probably overpaid, but don't care.
Gave:
Doug Martin
Michael Floyd
Late 2014 1st (devy league, devalued)
Got:
Calvin Johnson
