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**** OFFICIAL **** LOST - The TV Series (1 Viewer)

To borrow from Prey some more, a large magnetic device would potentially useful in trying to control a swarm of rouge nanobots.  Since they're tiny little metal things, a large magnet could potentially force them away or pull them in.

Also, maybe the numbers are/were being broadcast as part of a set of instructions to the nanobots or something.
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Hmmm, broadcasting signals with only a few numbers so I guess the nanobots can go up, down, left, right, stop and attack. That might be a bit limiting, although a really big magnet which you can turn on/off to control the swarm might have some issues as well.I guess I might throw this one out in the as plausible as clones theory.
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Turning people into zombies by polluting the water supply had some issues too, but that never stopped the writer of Alias from doing it.The command could be the command for return home or turn off or something?

Its just a theory, but I haven't heard a better one for what the security system is.
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WTF does Alias have to do with this? If you actually think Alias has any basis in facts then you missed something. It is a campy spy thriller, but that still has nothing to do with Lost. After you saw Die Another Day, did you actually think that a Cuban doctor had figured out how to turn Asian men into English ones?BTW, if the numbers were just in a loop, as witnessed by the Navy station where the two guys just kept hearing the numbers repeated and Rousseau's ship who heard the same, how does that control them in any way? They, if they are nanobots, could easily be controlled by some transmission, but looping numbers for hours/days/months doesn't make sense.

Anyway, just having fun, but if you are going to throw out theories, then you have to be prepared for people punching holes in them!

 
To borrow from Prey some more, a large magnetic device would potentially useful in trying to control a swarm of rouge nanobots.  Since they're tiny little metal things, a large magnet could potentially force them away or pull them in.

Also, maybe the numbers are/were being broadcast as part of a set of instructions to the nanobots or something.
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Hmmm, broadcasting signals with only a few numbers so I guess the nanobots can go up, down, left, right, stop and attack. That might be a bit limiting, although a really big magnet which you can turn on/off to control the swarm might have some issues as well.I guess I might throw this one out in the as plausible as clones theory.
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Turning people into zombies by polluting the water supply had some issues too, but that never stopped the writer of Alias from doing it.The command could be the command for return home or turn off or something?

Its just a theory, but I haven't heard a better one for what the security system is.
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WTF does Alias have to do with this? If you actually think Alias has any basis in facts then you missed something. It is a campy spy thriller, but that still has nothing to do with Lost. After you saw Die Another Day, did you actually think that a Cuban doctor had figured out how to turn Asian men into English ones?BTW, if the numbers were just in a loop, as witnessed by the Navy station where the two guys just kept hearing the numbers repeated and Rousseau's ship who heard the same, how does that control them in any way? They, if they are nanobots, could easily be controlled by some transmission, but looping numbers for hours/days/months doesn't make sense.

Anyway, just having fun, but if you are going to throw out theories, then you have to be prepared for people punching holes in them!
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I was just pointing out that the writer/creator of Lost has bent the rules of science previously on his other shows, so maybe he is doing it here too.
 
"Well Jack, Kate and Locke, I have been down here for 24 months and I work for Y company who actually found the first sample of disease carrying nanobots on this island. We sent about 50 workers here to construct this hatch and half of them came down with the plague or were ripped apart by the monster so we shut the hatch and put a quarantine sticker on it. The Others on the island are the few workers who survived and we give them fuel and food every couple months if they bring us another child specimen to examine as we search to find a cure. Oh, did I forget to mention that we have a large magnetic device that disrupts airplane instrumentation. Sorry about that, once we got a treaty with the monster nanobots we can crash planes while leaving enough people alive to continue our research without government intervention. Once we have a cure, we can unleash the plague world wide and make billions on a new vaccine. Oh, I have been so rude brothas, would you some cream in your Starbucks coffee?"
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Am I the only guy who thinks that sounds pretty spot-on? :unsure:
 
Page 2 bump.

I'm think I'm gonna stop talking like the hulk for now.  It got old quick.
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Shtick BAD!
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Well, I thought it was funny at the time, and the time happened to be a friday afternoon after a frazzling work week, so my judgement may not have been clear.Anyway, I'm not an alias, so I'll just stick around and speak normally most of the time.

And now lets get back on topic...

I'd bet $50 they don't show us much of anything about the hatch next week. They'll focus on the rafters the whole time, and we'll still have 8000 unanswered questions until the 3rd episode.
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I'm now rooting for a rafter episode, ending with them finding the backhalfers, leading to eight straight weeks of focusing on the backhalfers before getting around to telling us about the hatch. That would make so many people so mad, and that sounds good to me.
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To borrow from Prey some more, a large magnetic device would potentially useful in trying to control a swarm of rouge nanobots.  Since they're tiny little metal things, a large magnet could potentially force them away or pull them in.

Also, maybe the numbers are/were being broadcast as part of a set of instructions to the nanobots or something.
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Hmmm, broadcasting signals with only a few numbers so I guess the nanobots can go up, down, left, right, stop and attack. That might be a bit limiting, although a really big magnet which you can turn on/off to control the swarm might have some issues as well.I guess I might throw this one out in the as plausible as clones theory.
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Turning people into zombies by polluting the water supply had some issues too, but that never stopped the writer of Alias from doing it.The command could be the command for return home or turn off or something?

Its just a theory, but I haven't heard a better one for what the security system is.
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WTF does Alias have to do with this? If you actually think Alias has any basis in facts then you missed something. It is a campy spy thriller, but that still has nothing to do with Lost. After you saw Die Another Day, did you actually think that a Cuban doctor had figured out how to turn Asian men into English ones?BTW, if the numbers were just in a loop, as witnessed by the Navy station where the two guys just kept hearing the numbers repeated and Rousseau's ship who heard the same, how does that control them in any way? They, if they are nanobots, could easily be controlled by some transmission, but looping numbers for hours/days/months doesn't make sense.

Anyway, just having fun, but if you are going to throw out theories, then you have to be prepared for people punching holes in them!
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I was just pointing out that the writer/creator of Lost has bent the rules of science previously on his other shows, so maybe he is doing it here too.
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I know, but Alias was never meant to be "real", and although the whole black smoke nanobot security system isn't something I have seen before, the writers/producers have maintained that everything will be explainable. I think that they could take some leeway with nanobots because there are people working on this technology now so it is plausible that someone out there is a little more advanced than we think. Alias, howver, has never ever tried to stay grounded in facts because it is more entertainment than science. They never try to explain things because like James Bond, it is more about the ride. I just wouldn't try to use Alias as an example of what could be on the island in Lost, not yet at least. If it does go down that path, it will lose a ton of viewership and I think the writers/producers do know that.
 
To borrow from Prey some more, a large magnetic device would potentially useful in trying to control a swarm of rouge nanobots.  Since they're tiny little metal things, a large magnet could potentially force them away or pull them in.

Also, maybe the numbers are/were being broadcast as part of a set of instructions to the nanobots or something.
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Hmmm, broadcasting signals with only a few numbers so I guess the nanobots can go up, down, left, right, stop and attack. That might be a bit limiting, although a really big magnet which you can turn on/off to control the swarm might have some issues as well.I guess I might throw this one out in the as plausible as clones theory.
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Turning people into zombies by polluting the water supply had some issues too, but that never stopped the writer of Alias from doing it.The command could be the command for return home or turn off or something?

Its just a theory, but I haven't heard a better one for what the security system is.
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WTF does Alias have to do with this? If you actually think Alias has any basis in facts then you missed something. It is a campy spy thriller, but that still has nothing to do with Lost. After you saw Die Another Day, did you actually think that a Cuban doctor had figured out how to turn Asian men into English ones?BTW, if the numbers were just in a loop, as witnessed by the Navy station where the two guys just kept hearing the numbers repeated and Rousseau's ship who heard the same, how does that control them in any way? They, if they are nanobots, could easily be controlled by some transmission, but looping numbers for hours/days/months doesn't make sense.

Anyway, just having fun, but if you are going to throw out theories, then you have to be prepared for people punching holes in them!
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I was just pointing out that the writer/creator of Lost has bent the rules of science previously on his other shows, so maybe he is doing it here too.
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I know, but Alias was never meant to be "real", and although the whole black smoke nanobot security system isn't something I have seen before, the writers/producers have maintained that everything will be explainable. I think that they could take some leeway with nanobots because there are people working on this technology now so it is plausible that someone out there is a little more advanced than we think. Alias, howver, has never ever tried to stay grounded in facts because it is more entertainment than science. They never try to explain things because like James Bond, it is more about the ride. I just wouldn't try to use Alias as an example of what could be on the island in Lost, not yet at least. If it does go down that path, it will lose a ton of viewership and I think the writers/producers do know that.
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:unsure: You realize that any explanation they come up with is going to be more fiction than science, right?

 
To borrow from Prey some more, a large magnetic device would potentially useful in trying to control a swarm of rouge nanobots.  Since they're tiny little metal things, a large magnet could potentially force them away or pull them in.

Also, maybe the numbers are/were being broadcast as part of a set of instructions to the nanobots or something.
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Hmmm, broadcasting signals with only a few numbers so I guess the nanobots can go up, down, left, right, stop and attack. That might be a bit limiting, although a really big magnet which you can turn on/off to control the swarm might have some issues as well.I guess I might throw this one out in the as plausible as clones theory.
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Turning people into zombies by polluting the water supply had some issues too, but that never stopped the writer of Alias from doing it.The command could be the command for return home or turn off or something?

Its just a theory, but I haven't heard a better one for what the security system is.
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WTF does Alias have to do with this? If you actually think Alias has any basis in facts then you missed something. It is a campy spy thriller, but that still has nothing to do with Lost. After you saw Die Another Day, did you actually think that a Cuban doctor had figured out how to turn Asian men into English ones?BTW, if the numbers were just in a loop, as witnessed by the Navy station where the two guys just kept hearing the numbers repeated and Rousseau's ship who heard the same, how does that control them in any way? They, if they are nanobots, could easily be controlled by some transmission, but looping numbers for hours/days/months doesn't make sense.

Anyway, just having fun, but if you are going to throw out theories, then you have to be prepared for people punching holes in them!
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I was just pointing out that the writer/creator of Lost has bent the rules of science previously on his other shows, so maybe he is doing it here too.
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I know, but Alias was never meant to be "real", and although the whole black smoke nanobot security system isn't something I have seen before, the writers/producers have maintained that everything will be explainable. I think that they could take some leeway with nanobots because there are people working on this technology now so it is plausible that someone out there is a little more advanced than we think. Alias, howver, has never ever tried to stay grounded in facts because it is more entertainment than science. They never try to explain things because like James Bond, it is more about the ride. I just wouldn't try to use Alias as an example of what could be on the island in Lost, not yet at least. If it does go down that path, it will lose a ton of viewership and I think the writers/producers do know that.
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:unsure: You realize that any explanation they come up with is going to be more fiction than science, right?
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It is possible, but I guess I will give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. I think there is a distinct difference between fully functioning clouds of nanobots which people are researching right now and viruses that turn people into zombies (Alias) or changing people's DNA so that they look like someone else (Die Another Day). We have already seen the black cloud security system, so obviously there is some fiction, but if it is fiction based on say an advanced jump in current technology then I am OK with it.Again, I have no idea what the "answers" will be, but it seems like the stuff I have seen leads me to believe that the writers and producers want to have explainable answers where we could say OK that is a stretch but I could see that rather than no ####### way could that happen. Heck, even cloning would be OK with me as long as the whole implanted memory or fast growing Star Wars thing doesn't occur, but I don't think an island of Jack babies is going to be a good storyline. :D

 
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Interesting. I don't want to post anymore in case folks don't want to know, but those spoiler pics definitely show a scene that tells a lot.
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More than one... I noticed something that isnt so obvious....
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In which picture. Just give us the number, like X/25.
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1/25 doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the photos.
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Also, it looks to me like most of these photos deal with one scene/event for the most part, culminating in a result shown in picture 13/25. If this is plot for the entire episode, it'll be slow.
 
I'm only on page 19 so this may have been said at some point...Previews keep saying...the survivors will learn their FATE!It was mentioned before and I agree...the quarentine was on the inside of the hatch and the hatch was locked from the inside. Desmond is being protected from the outside "disease" while controling the security system with the computer. It is at some type of military/govt. post and saw Jack when training to go to this post, hiding behind a race around the world. He is actually a good guy who will tell Jack and the other survivors that they have been exposed to something...i.e. learn their fate. He has guns to protect himself and his medicine that keeps him from getting sick.Although I'm not a fan of this idea but it could be a "moving island" contraption of some sort and he is typing cordinates into the computer so the "island" stays in one place.Back to reading.PS - survivors learing their FATE and Charlie writing that on the tape on his fingers in the begining mean anything...nah, probably not.

 
Previews keep saying...the survivors will learn their FATE!
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Are you sure it says this? I seem to remember it saying that WE learn their fate. But I haven't seen it since last week.
 
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Previews keep saying...the survivors will learn their FATE!
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Are you sure it says this? I seem to remember it saying that WE learn their fate. But I haven't seen it since last week.
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I'm not 100% sure but that is what I remember hearing. I guess we will see tonight as it will be previewed several times, I'm sure.
 
Sorry if I'm repeating something already said, but 29 pages is a LOT to try to read... (I did skim the last few tho...)Am I the only person who's mildy concerned or disappointed that the show appears to be taking more a "science fiction" turn (ala X-Files) and seems to be straying away from the "supernatural" feel?Maybe I'm wrong, since I don't spend any time on "Lost" message boards and spoiler sites, as it seems many others here do. But I watched the first season faithfully. I loved the way the story had that supernatural feel to it, with Locke getting his legs back unexplicably, the visions and whispers, Walt's possible "gift" or strange powers, Hurley's "Magic Numbers"... it's gonna suck IMO if it all ends up being explained by some stupid government or corporate experiment or something.Just my 2 cents...(FYI - late post because I just got to watch the season premier over the weekend on TiVo...)

 
A whole junkload of more pics from upcoming episodes

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Interesting. I don't want to post anymore in case folks don't want to know, but those spoiler pics definitely show a scene that tells a lot.
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More than one... I noticed something that isnt so obvious....
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:confused: the other people in the picture, their garb, ect?
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Dude, to hide the text, put it between quotes when you turn the color white. I can read the white on light blue text. Not that I mind--I highlight all hidden text anyway, but some want to stay innocent.

 
Don't know why, but this struck me as funny...



Jin is still wearing that cuff...

ETA - The other group seems to have taken a much more primitive existance. Look at those weapons--pit to put people into, etc.

Wonder why they went there so fast...what were they defending against? Perhaps I should wait until the episode to ask these questions.
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A whole junkload of more pics from upcoming episodes

Spoilers
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Interesting. I don't want to post anymore in case folks don't want to know, but those spoiler pics definitely show a scene that tells a lot.
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More than one... I noticed something that isnt so obvious....
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:confused: the other people in the picture, their garb, ect?
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Dude, to hide the text, put it between quotes when you turn the color white. I can read the white on light blue text. Not that I mind--I highlight all hidden text anyway, but some want to stay innocent.
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An oversight, now fixed. FWIW, if someone is straining to make out the white on light blue, they might as well go the full distance and highlight it. :D
 
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To borrow from Prey some more, a large magnetic device would potentially useful in trying to control a swarm of rouge nanobots.  Since they're tiny little metal things, a large magnet could potentially force them away or pull them in.

Also, maybe the numbers are/were being broadcast as part of a set of instructions to the nanobots or something.
Click to expand...
Hmmm, broadcasting signals with only a few numbers so I guess the nanobots can go up, down, left, right, stop and attack. That might be a bit limiting, although a really big magnet which you can turn on/off to control the swarm might have some issues as well.I guess I might throw this one out in the as plausible as clones theory.
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Turning people into zombies by polluting the water supply had some issues too, but that never stopped the writer of Alias from doing it.The command could be the command for return home or turn off or something?

Its just a theory, but I haven't heard a better one for what the security system is.
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WTF does Alias have to do with this? If you actually think Alias has any basis in facts then you missed something. It is a campy spy thriller, but that still has nothing to do with Lost. After you saw Die Another Day, did you actually think that a Cuban doctor had figured out how to turn Asian men into English ones?BTW, if the numbers were just in a loop, as witnessed by the Navy station where the two guys just kept hearing the numbers repeated and Rousseau's ship who heard the same, how does that control them in any way? They, if they are nanobots, could easily be controlled by some transmission, but looping numbers for hours/days/months doesn't make sense.

Anyway, just having fun, but if you are going to throw out theories, then you have to be prepared for people punching holes in them!
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I was just pointing out that the writer/creator of Lost has bent the rules of science previously on his other shows, so maybe he is doing it here too.
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I know, but Alias was never meant to be "real", and although the whole black smoke nanobot security system isn't something I have seen before, the writers/producers have maintained that everything will be explainable. I think that they could take some leeway with nanobots because there are people working on this technology now so it is plausible that someone out there is a little more advanced than we think. Alias, howver, has never ever tried to stay grounded in facts because it is more entertainment than science. They never try to explain things because like James Bond, it is more about the ride. I just wouldn't try to use Alias as an example of what could be on the island in Lost, not yet at least. If it does go down that path, it will lose a ton of viewership and I think the writers/producers do know that.
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As opposed to Lost, where we're dealing with a kid who can mentally control animals and has his image reappear in the jungle while he's miles away, ghosts who appear and disappear, a polar bear that appears on a tropical island after being seen in a comic book, a series of numbers that causes extreme events to occur, a slave ship that's miles inland, and a plane that snaps in half and falls from the sky while allowing most of the passengers to survive. Yeah, I definitely think they'll stick with "reality" for their explanations.
 
a polar bear that appears on a tropical island after being seen in a comic book
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This is incorrect. When Sayid is with the French woman in his first flashback episode (Solitary?), they hear the security system, or something big, and the French woman says, "Hopefully it's just a bear." Seems like she had seen them before and was used to them, which would make the comic book being the reason for the bears appearing impossible.
 
As opposed to Lost, where we're dealing with a kid who can mentally control animals and has his image reappear in the jungle while he's miles away, ghosts who appear and disappear, a polar bear that appears on a tropical island after being seen in a comic book, a series of numbers that causes extreme events to occur, a slave ship that's miles inland, and a plane that snaps in half and falls from the sky while allowing most of the passengers to survive. Yeah, I definitely think they'll stick with "reality" for their explanations.
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1. We don't know what Walt's "powers" are, if any at all. We know he's a little weird but that's it.2. How nuts is Shannon? Her brother died. She was sleep deprived. She loses Walt's dog and feeling like she's failed Walt, she sees his waterlogged image? Walt projecting his own image seems far-fetched.

3. What ghosts have appeared and disappeared aside from Jack's father and now Walt? Jack was sleep deprived, emotionally distraught. Boone hallucinated because he was given something by Locke. Everyone has seen what they wanted to see.

4. The polar bear is random.

5. Slave ship? Why would it have dynamite that was still functioning? Dynamite wasn't patented until 1867. It's a tropical island, which is an extreme environment. It's a ship that's inland but we're not sure how far. That's all we know.

6. A plane crash with survivors is random but it makes for better tv than a plane crash without survivors.

 
As opposed to Lost, where we're dealing with a kid who can mentally control animals and has his image reappear in the jungle while he's miles away, ghosts who appear and disappear, a polar bear that appears on a tropical island after being seen in a comic book, a series of numbers that causes extreme events to occur, a slave ship that's miles inland, and a plane that snaps in half and falls from the sky while allowing most of the passengers to survive. Yeah, I definitely think they'll stick with "reality" for their explanations.
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Remember that we are sometimes seeing things through the eyes of others, so whether those ghosts are real or imagined can't be determined.Do the numbers cause extreme events? It's not been proven they do...it just seems like they do.

The bear could be stranded from a passing ship or a science experiment.

The ship isn't necessarily a slave ship. As pointed out here, the British used to send their degenerates to Austrailia, which is in the area of the island. How far inland it is and it's good condition does cause some "reality" problems though.

The plane crash is, so far, the most unrealistic part of the series, IMO. Most of the other stuff could be active imaginations or explained somehow.

 
As opposed to Lost, where we're dealing with a kid who can mentally control animals and has his image reappear in the jungle while he's miles away, ghosts who appear and disappear, a polar bear that appears on a tropical island after being seen in a comic book, a series of numbers that causes extreme events to occur, a slave ship that's miles inland, and a plane that snaps in half and falls from the sky while allowing most of the passengers to survive.  Yeah, I definitely think they'll stick with "reality" for their explanations.
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1. We don't know what Walt's "powers" are, if any at all. We know he's a little weird but that's it.2. How nuts is Shannon? Her brother died. She was sleep deprived. She loses Walt's dog and feeling like she's failed Walt, she sees his waterlogged image? Walt projecting his own image seems far-fetched.

3. What ghosts have appeared and disappeared aside from Jack's father and now Walt? Jack was sleep deprived, emotionally distraught. Boone hallucinated because he was given something by Locke. Everyone has seen what they wanted to see.

4. The polar bear is random.

5. Slave ship? Why would it have dynamite that was still functioning? Dynamite wasn't patented until 1867. It's a tropical island, which is an extreme environment. It's a ship that's inland but we're not sure how far. That's all we know.

6. A plane crash with survivors is random but it makes for better tv than a plane crash without survivors.
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Wow...that's pretty close to what I said. The numbers are working right here at FBG!
 
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I recently found an interesting natuarlly occuring thoery found in our world that states everyone has a mirror image somewhere in the world. You may have heard of this. Its called Roussau's genetic mirror theory, and I must say it is very interesting. Roussau's genetic mirror theory says that everyone in the world has an exact twin somewhere, however according to the theory you never encounter this person, by laws of probablitly and other natuaral occuring phemnomen. Its the theory that was devised by a French Mathematician named Marseille Roussau in the year 1988. He used a series of numbers to explain his theory. Now I know you're not going to believe this but here goes.4 8 15 16 23 42Let me explain...The 4 stands for 4 degrees of separation (not 6 or 7 as commonly stated.) Roussau believed that everyone in the world was connected by four different people. So in theory could meet yourself by using four different people connected to you. Example: Your brother's, boss's, neighbor nephew, knows your mirror. Hard to believe, I know but keep reading.The 8 stands for the eight continent, or the only place in the world where you could meet your mirror. He calculated it to be somewhere in the south pacific. Now we know its not actually as large as the other contintents but its used figurtively because everyone in all 7 continents could meet there mirror on the 8th universal continent.The 15 stands for the chances of you acually meeting yourself on this place, as in 15 out of 4,815,162,342. Look at the second set "815." Ring any bells? Interesting huh?The 16 stands for the maximum amount of people that could encounter thier twin all at the same time. Think about the number of main characters.The 23 is the number of years apart your twin and yourself are. You are not the same age as your twin. By chance and probablity it takes 23 years exactly for the same genes that made you to be connected again to form another you.The 42 stands for the maximimum number of years your twin and yourself can be alive at the same time. However people do die at diffferent times so thats why everyone isn't dead at 75. For example my twin was born on Sept. 6 2003 b/c i was born on Spet. 6 1980. Now that doesn't mean i will die in the year 2045, I could, but its not set in stone. My twin could die when he is 16, and then the whole thing starts over again.This is all very complicated and I don't know how well I explained it but the connections with the show are too coinidental to not be real.Roussau and his team (wife, included) went to the 8th continent. You can figure out how they died and why by the numbers and equations. It also fits with every character. You can predict when they will die. There are others on the island who are twins of the survivors, but have been there 23 years longer.There is a book Roussau wrote 16 years ago in 1988 when he came up with the theory. Thats where I got it from.
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To borrow from Prey some more, a large magnetic device would potentially useful in trying to control a swarm of rouge nanobots.  Since they're tiny little metal things, a large magnet could potentially force them away or pull them in.

Also, maybe the numbers are/were being broadcast as part of a set of instructions to the nanobots or something.
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Hmmm, broadcasting signals with only a few numbers so I guess the nanobots can go up, down, left, right, stop and attack. That might be a bit limiting, although a really big magnet which you can turn on/off to control the swarm might have some issues as well.I guess I might throw this one out in the as plausible as clones theory.
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Turning people into zombies by polluting the water supply had some issues too, but that never stopped the writer of Alias from doing it.The command could be the command for return home or turn off or something?

Its just a theory, but I haven't heard a better one for what the security system is.
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WTF does Alias have to do with this? If you actually think Alias has any basis in facts then you missed something. It is a campy spy thriller, but that still has nothing to do with Lost. After you saw Die Another Day, did you actually think that a Cuban doctor had figured out how to turn Asian men into English ones?BTW, if the numbers were just in a loop, as witnessed by the Navy station where the two guys just kept hearing the numbers repeated and Rousseau's ship who heard the same, how does that control them in any way? They, if they are nanobots, could easily be controlled by some transmission, but looping numbers for hours/days/months doesn't make sense.

Anyway, just having fun, but if you are going to throw out theories, then you have to be prepared for people punching holes in them!
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I was just pointing out that the writer/creator of Lost has bent the rules of science previously on his other shows, so maybe he is doing it here too.
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I know, but Alias was never meant to be "real", and although the whole black smoke nanobot security system isn't something I have seen before, the writers/producers have maintained that everything will be explainable. I think that they could take some leeway with nanobots because there are people working on this technology now so it is plausible that someone out there is a little more advanced than we think. Alias, howver, has never ever tried to stay grounded in facts because it is more entertainment than science. They never try to explain things because like James Bond, it is more about the ride. I just wouldn't try to use Alias as an example of what could be on the island in Lost, not yet at least. If it does go down that path, it will lose a ton of viewership and I think the writers/producers do know that.
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As opposed to Lost, where we're dealing with a kid who can mentally control animals and has his image reappear in the jungle while he's miles away, ghosts who appear and disappear, a polar bear that appears on a tropical island after being seen in a comic book, a series of numbers that causes extreme events to occur, a slave ship that's miles inland, and a plane that snaps in half and falls from the sky while allowing most of the passengers to survive. Yeah, I definitely think they'll stick with "reality" for their explanations.
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As jplvr wrote, I think the Polar Bears can easily be explained, as can the boat, which I don't think is miles inland. Remember that Charlie and Sayid ran all the way to black smoke and back at the end of a day. I can't remember exactly the timeframe, but it didn't take Jack's crew that much time to get to the black rock and who knows how close the black rock is to the water at that spot of the island. I would think that after watching all of the tsunamis/hurricanes.storm surges/flooding over the past few months that it isn't much of a stretch to send a ship inland during a real bad storm.As for the plane, I thought that there was supposed to be some revealing this season on how it crashed, so I will reserve my judgement on that.

I don't know if the ghosts you are referring to is the security system, but even if it is a cloud of nanobots, to be honest that isn't a big stretch for me based on the nanotechnology that people are researching right now.

As for the other stuff, I don't believe in psychics or paranormal/supernatural stuff, but I think that is where this show is different than Alias. In Alias, they just make something up every week and don't even try to explain it. The psychic stuff is something that most (sane) people don't believe in, but I think people can accept it as part of the show.

Again, I already admitted that there is stuff on this show that you will have to accept, but to compare it to Alias is not valid because the writers/producers have gone out of their way to say that everything will be explainable. That doesn't mean Lost will be 100% real, but I hope based on what they have said, that it won't end up having Alias or even X-Files events with absolutely no explanations.

 
As opposed to Lost, where we're dealing with a kid who can mentally control animals and has his image reappear in the jungle while he's miles away, ghosts who appear and disappear, a polar bear that appears on a tropical island after being seen in a comic book, a series of numbers that causes extreme events to occur, a slave ship that's miles inland, and a plane that snaps in half and falls from the sky while allowing most of the passengers to survive. Yeah, I definitely think they'll stick with "reality" for their explanations.
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1. We don't know what Walt's "powers" are, if any at all. We know he's a little weird but that's it.2. How nuts is Shannon? Her brother died. She was sleep deprived. She loses Walt's dog and feeling like she's failed Walt, she sees his waterlogged image? Walt projecting his own image seems far-fetched.

3. What ghosts have appeared and disappeared aside from Jack's father and now Walt? Jack was sleep deprived, emotionally distraught. Boone hallucinated because he was given something by Locke. Everyone has seen what they wanted to see.

4. The polar bear is random.

5. Slave ship? Why would it have dynamite that was still functioning? Dynamite wasn't patented until 1867. It's a tropical island, which is an extreme environment. It's a ship that's inland but we're not sure how far. That's all we know.

6. A plane crash with survivors is random but it makes for better tv than a plane crash without survivors.
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Wow...that's pretty close to what I said. The numbers are working right here at FBG!
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I don't know about you, but I watch "mythbusters" when I can...
 
6. A plane crash with survivors is random but it makes for better tv than a plane crash without survivors.
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:lmao: :lmao: If they did have no survivors then we could have had the perfect Seinfeld. Really a show about nothing. I think ABC told them to rework the pilot and that's when they came up with the survivor angle which has worked well up till now.

 
As opposed to Lost, where we're dealing with a kid who can mentally control animals and has his image reappear in the jungle while he's miles away, ghosts who appear and disappear, a polar bear that appears on a tropical island after being seen in a comic book, a series of numbers that causes extreme events to occur, a slave ship that's miles inland, and a plane that snaps in half and falls from the sky while allowing most of the passengers to survive.  Yeah, I definitely think they'll stick with "reality" for their explanations.
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1. We don't know what Walt's "powers" are, if any at all. We know he's a little weird but that's it.2. How nuts is Shannon? Her brother died. She was sleep deprived. She loses Walt's dog and feeling like she's failed Walt, she sees his waterlogged image? Walt projecting his own image seems far-fetched.

3. What ghosts have appeared and disappeared aside from Jack's father and now Walt? Jack was sleep deprived, emotionally distraught. Boone hallucinated because he was given something by Locke. Everyone has seen what they wanted to see.

4. The polar bear is random.

5. Slave ship? Why would it have dynamite that was still functioning? Dynamite wasn't patented until 1867. It's a tropical island, which is an extreme environment. It's a ship that's inland but we're not sure how far. That's all we know.

6. A plane crash with survivors is random but it makes for better tv than a plane crash without survivors.
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Wow...that's pretty close to what I said. The numbers are working right here at FBG!
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I don't know about you, but I watch "mythbusters" when I can...
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That is a great show. The exploding port-a-john was one of my favorites. That and the human sling shot where Mexican people, according to the myth, were doing human canonballs to go over the US border.
 
another theory I found...

I think I saw a potato chip on the table in the hospital that resembled Ben Affleck in Good Will Hunting. Ben also played a WWII pilot in Pearl Harbor that got shot down over the South Pacific, coincidence?. He survived only to make a terrible movie named Gigli, which has five letters in it. Each character in the show has five fingers on each hand and five toes on each foot. It’s about one or two episodes until Jack puts his foot up Locke’s ### for being a renegade maniac. Once he does that Locke probably won’t be able to walk anymore and he will wake up from his dream and will find himself back at his job announcing the lottery numbers on local television. Thus the recurring them of the numbers throughout the show.
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